Lava-Mātra: A Moment with Jayapatākā Swami by HG Rāmarūpa Caitanya Dāsa #JayapatakaSwamiArchives

So basically we are from Andhra Pradesh, South India. Born in Baltimore, Education was completed there. After that day we came to. I came to Chennai on the job basis. So I was in Chennai past 20, 22 years. Then after coming to Chennai I got married. Then before marriage I came to Krishna consciousness One year before marriage. Then I had met Gurmaraj in the Kirangar temple in Chennai in one night when other devotees Sundarapramanal introduced me to Guru Maharaj in Kilada temple. It is around 2001. Yeah. So Gurmaraj was.

Looking at me that.

Khilada because he was saying lunch at 11 o'. Clock. He came at 10 o' clock to temple in the night from airport. So he was taking Lajeera some meters back. He was singing at me for a few minutes There he asked he was telling Sundarpur about me. He was asking about me Sundarpur telling Guru Maharaj about me. Guru Maharaj said that he did not say anything. Then next day morning Guru Maharaj went to airport for going to Mumbai somewhere. So that is the first meeting with Guru Maharaj. That is before marriage. So after marriage Guru Maharaj came to dayatra to Chennai 2003 another airfare. Then we met Maharaj in the Radheatra time when Radhayatra procession I went Guru.

Maharaj then he was teaching me how.

To pull the Radhyatra rope. Then I was pulling and he came.

Then he was at the beginning of the rope.

So I was pulling normally just like no. Guruma said no, you should not give us little bit shouting you should not pull like this. Then he has seen how to pull the Then after that next day Guru Maharaj gave any sessions to all the devotees in Chennai. Next day morning in Kushlambhalayam Warakam. There Guru Maharaj was chanting on the beads for the initiation. Then we were with Guru Maharaj because.

He was chanting with the beads and.

Going all around the wonder pom inside we are also working with him. 15, 40 minutes he was speaking to devotees. He was standing and so many beats are there in there. He was standing and we are also enjoying with him. So he was speaking to all the devotees there and chanting. And after that in the rounds Guru Maharaj stopped me. What you are doing? Then I said what answered? Then he was there.

Then she also came.

Then when Guru Maharaj spoke to me, he also came here to me. Then Guru Maharaj asked how much? 4 hour since hour I'm into school. Then my guru said. I said one year there were more. How many rounds they are sending 16 rooms. I said I think 16. I don't remember exactly what I told.

Today.

Initiation or not? Yes. You want to access measureable Guru Maharaj. Then next to Guru Maharaj Sutrapur was there telling him what about him? Then Guru Maharaj he passed one year only. He is coming to temple. He is attending pragrants and everything. How long since? How long are panic Sri rocks. Then I said I think almost six months. I don't remember. Then Thinthra immediately stopped Gongaras just he came only one year before to his call. He wanted rightly.

Then if negative asked me.

Now you are ashamed of Guru right now? Yes. Guru Maharaj. I think that Guruji will give me shelter. I am aspiring inside because he was asked about initiation. If you didn't know that then Sumter was stopped. I was little bit upset.

Actually.

Then.

Guru Maharaj is giving mercy. Then he was stopping me.

Immediately Guru Maharaj said okay. Then Guru Maharaj heard Sundar's words. I was in that I was not happy on the day. But then Guru Maharaj hugged me. He blessed me. Then he said ran she was there with me. So you both blessed Guru Maharaj. Then Gurudev introduced Natsu I want to do. She is also doing some services of that everything happened there. That day we had special blessing of Guru Maharaj. At the first blessing of guru Maharaj in 2003. Then we became little bit more of.

Because when anybody had a blessing of Guru Maharaj from that time onwards our.

Consciousness, our attachment, our other things does.

His way of attracting, his way of.

Handling the people is completely different.

So that from that onwards we become.

More and more attached to him in many aspects. From the time on which we started working Mayapur, Vyaspuja, Vaspuja with all the devotees. First time in the Vaspuja 2003 Vaspuja we attended. Then on the Vaspuja day I want to talk to Gurma Raj Lotus club. I want to operate.

I was keeping with me. I was waiting Gurmaraj will come for.

Pleasant before going to Raspberry Vaishnavasana. Devotees told me as I was waiting with God land I will not obtain to anyone.

Because any Mini Maharaj is coming and taking Darshan going.

I was keeping that money for Purvaraj and keeping her sitting in the Radha malala. Then around 9:30, 10 Gurmaste he alone came. All his food is empty.

Then I was waiting for the time.

Before Gurmaraj come before 2,3,5 minutes Bhakti Bharajendram he had.

Then I sitting with God. I was thinking I don't have organ for Maharaj.

I had Guru Maharaj.

This is for Guru Mahaj.

I will not offer to Maharaj.

I was answering myself in that time. I was not thinking that I will offer. Let me offer. Get a more like.

Dura.

Immediately he came Immediately I went to Guru Maharaj and I just offered trying.

To offer Guru Maharaj in the Rashem altar. Guru Mahaj said hold on, wait. Come with me. Then Guru Mahaj took my hand. And when Guru Mahaj walks with you.

Cannot walk with him because his feet distance is very high. Sometimes he is very like. You know, like a lion.

Madhuri. He is walking very fast. Because Bhat Maharaj is a Madhya Dwar. He is taking darshan. There he is.

He may leave from that place also. So Guru Maharaj was little bit very fast. I was running with him straight away he put me at the Bhaishad Bharaj after Dhar land.

Then after after Darling see whatever I thought did not happen there. Then I understood. First we have to respect Guru Maharaj. God prayers in front of Guru Maharaj. This is the first lesson we have to learn. Not that we will only for Gurma Raj should offer respect. The first respect of the government of Gur Maharaj.

When Gur Maharaj is there, that is.

The first performance we have to not that Gur Maharaj are affirming everything.

Gur Maharaj even Gurmaraj is not there.

We have to offer respects and our first priority should be God bless of Guru Maharaj. So that was that lesson I learned. Then after Vajra Maharaj was very happy. Then after Gurmarja said where are you from? Then I said Chennai. Chennai. For a minute he was waiting. Yeah, I moved. What you are doing in Chennai? Then I said you came to ask me the first time in Mypur. Yes, Mahar first time I. How is Mayapur?

Very happy by seeing so many.

At that time Mayapur is full of parks before Rana. Now it is a big temple. Now it is full of very beautiful park. In that time so very nice parks and all everywhere. Lotus park. Good Lotus park Next door Panchad Pahal.

There is a nice flower. So many parks everywhere beautiful.

All the buildings are very nicely painted.

It looks like very nice. Very nice.

We had a program.

Then.

In the evening Guru Maharaj giving the Vyas Puja.

On the in the evening Guruvaja giving.

Special darshan to special time for Chennai devotees. We all went in the Bharat Bhar. We went to Guru Maharaj.

Then on that time Guru Mahaj was.

Telling me you're from Chennai.

Nice.

How are you and Gurumad personally talking to me?

Then.

Fine. This is the whole interaction.

Then afterwards Guru Maharaj came to Chennai.

For next two, three months. And I met Gurmaraj. Gurmaraj said how are you now? How is your other things? Sadha Venda Okay. He's our interaction guy.

From there so many things happened. That is a first.

Let on what else you are asking?

Well first can you move the chair more close? Yes.

Good.

Okay. So now Mataji can say the her name. Where are you from, how you joined? You can tell us that when you mention about your initiation, you can say your name. You can say anyone.

I took my initiation 2006 in January in question. So at that time Guru Maharaj named me Rama Rupa Chaitanya Das. He was telling me you should chart immuno fish stocks in India with rupture.

So my name is Siddha Vaishna Sevani Devi Dasi from Vishakhapatnam, Andhra Pradesh. So I got married in 2002. So after that I came to Chennai immediately. And after coming here I don't know about ISKCON at all. So he didn't say anything to me about this. So I was my bron and brought up in a military kind of family. So we are not much into. Even though we are from Brahmins, we are not into this kind of rituals and all these things. So he used to say science is everything. There is no God like that kind of attitude is in my house actually. So I was completely different atmosphere after marriage all the time temple God Krishna. So I was a bit very angry with him actually saying that you always talk about only Krishna God, all these things. I don't like to talk about that. Don't talk about me. And then he took me to the temple ISKCON temple first time then. And I was also very much against the Sanyasis. I don't like Sanyatrika. I see in the TV everywhere cheating going on. So I say I don't like Sanyata. These people are first offering to Prabhupada and then going to offer to Krishna. This is so bad it should not be done. First I have to offer respects to Krishna. So that's how I was thinking about Sanyasis and all. So I used to have a fight with him most of the time regarding this all. And then suddenly I came in contact with Prem Padmini Mataji. She was giving a seminar in 2002. I think so.

June 2000. June.

Yeah. So we got married in April and June I went to the temple for seminar. And that seminar, I don't know anything. It was completely dry for me because it is about congregational teaching. And Mataji saw me and said, you are new to this. I said, yes. Then she said, okay, you have to I will introduce the devotee near to you. That is Ramakrishna Prabhu. So she called Radhika Madhya Ji and we took their number and then we started going there. So we used to have Bhaktiiksha and all. And they used to discuss all the time. Whenever there is class, there will be a Guru Maharaj topic discussion. And Radhika Matri used to say a lot of topics pastimes about Guru Maharaj. Then I said, who is this Guru Maharaj? His name is Guru Maharaj or what? He said, no, no, his name is there. It's Jaipada Goswami. Then at all. Because there is no name at all. Every time only Guru Mahaj words will come. So then in 2003, during the Radhya test Abhisek there was a class going on in Kuchalambar and I was in the front sitting. And then I asked Aditya Maharaj after that only 2002 I met Guru Maharaj. 2003. So January regularly Guru Maharaj will come for the festival during the Shankranti Pongal festival. So he was giving a class. And I was telling to Radhika Mataji that I want to talk to your Guru. I said. She said, you saw how many people are there. Do you think it's so easy to talk? It's not possible. I said, no, I don't know, but I want to talk to him. And then somehow I was attracted the way he was telling and so heavy personality and got attracted. And then after the class got over, then he was giving prasadhan to everyone.

But observing that Gurumagaj is very attentive in the class.

Yeah, that he will say after the class that. So he was giving Prasadam. Then he was not talking to anyone. Then my turn came. He was looking at me. He said like this and then said, what's your name? He said, my name is Sunita. Okay, I like it very much. You are hearing very attentively the whole class. It's very nice. And then in that way I had a first interaction with Guru Maharaj. And after that also so many interactions we had where Guru Mahj kept asking me about my chanting and other things and all. And after that Guru Maharaj was going to the airport and Rangakrishna Babu told us to send some prasadam to them. Go and give it out. So I went there for the airport. I mean during this Radhyatra time also Gurumaj was telling to come to Mayapur. So I don't know what is Mayhapur at all. I just got married six months over. I don't know what is Mayapur, what is this ISKCON or anything. I don't know. He said you come to Mayapur. I said okay, I'll come. I think after that airport also when I went there to give out prasadam, Gurmaj asked me I have to come to Mayapur. So that is how the whole first meeting with Guru Maharaj happened. And after that Radhika Mataji said Guru Maharaj said we had to go then you had to come let's say. And it was a big thing in my life because I don't know anything. And my parents were scared where she sent to some other place what will happen to me. Because they don't know ISKCON at all. So they were upset that she should not go, I should not go to that place. And he is newly married. What he is going to do with me. It was like that. And somehow Radhika Mataji took me to the place and. And the moment I saw the place it's like the energy, it's very, very enchanting. The whole place Mayapur. And so it's like I came in February and then I was there for one month. And every day Radhikamaj used to take to Guru Maharaj for the classes till night 11 o'. Clock. The classes used to be there 11, 11 30, 12 o'. Clock. Also sometimes we used to have something Guru Maharaj used to talk. And then every day you will ask in Telugu alone or Bhavna Wahi asking Telugu actually. And that is how I was. And I was given chance to serve Sachinandar Maharaj and everyone. So many Maharajas, Banu Maharaj every day I used to run for all the services. And that's why initially we'd be very active. So and then I was into the Parikram the first day. That's the first time I was coming to the Parikram. I don't know much about all these things. So Gurmaj was telling in the initial lecture that it's good if you don't have your slippers. And I mean it's good without wearing slippers you do your parikram. So I was doing my Parikram first day itself I got hurt on the leg. Sharp stone. And then immediately I was taken to the doctor nearby and he just did some stitches and all. And then Gurumaya asked what happened? I said I got hurt. Then you would have wear the slippers. No, I said, you only told not to wear slippers. At least you wear socks. Then I said, no, I'm not. So that is how every day he used to come and ask me how are you? Every day I was shocked by the way he was asking what is this something different. Nobody will ask regularly like this. He's so caring. And also I was able to see the Sannyasi. The Sanyasi is a different. He is not like what I am thinking outside. And I can see the power in him, the energy, what he is having in preaching and other things. So that is how the meeting with Guru Maharaj. And then later so many times Guru Maharaj was every day we used to have Guru Puja. After the morning he would go by walk and have Guru Puja. So we used to go for Prasha. He would give samosa one Maharaj would give samosa one Maharaj would give kaja, something like that. So myself and Adi Kamas everywhere used to run and have the prasadam. And Guru Mahaj was so happy to go. Prasadam. I see that Walton doll we see in Samsara Dhava. All these I refer, okay, Guru Mahaj like this. I used to refer everything like this. So this is what is the initial? This one. And then later I got initiated in 2009. So actually Prabhu got initiated in 2006. Then at that time Guru Maharaj asked me why you are not taking initiation? I said just now I got delivered. So I didn't chant for some time. So I cannot take. That is so I got delayed. And then in 2009 again during that time I think Gurumaj was not okay at that time. But still he was giving initiation. So he was telling that whoever is finding it difficult to take initiation from you can take from others. So I was like I was hearing mostly Radha Maharaj lectures and Gaurav Chaupathi lectures and all. So I find it difficult to hear to Guru Maharaj's lectures. So one of the devotee from Sharjah, I think so someone came to Krkolstreet to give a lecture actually. And then I told this is the situation. I don't hear to Guru Mahaj's lectures and how can I develop that kind of love towards him? Then he said, whether you can understand or not. You keep hearing. You just keep the lecture. So that is how I started hearing Gurmaj lectures regularly. And then now I am able to understand what really Gurmaj wanted. Actually so that made me point that we should hear regularly through the lectures of Guru Maharaj. That really helped me a lot. So I hear Guru Mahaj lectures Prabhupada lectures thoroughly. So to make ourselves strong in Krishna consciousness. So now also I see Gurumaj telling that all the devotees should become Paramahamsas and all. He keeps sharing in all the lectures. So that is. And also he is making everyone to inspire to take up the Bhakti Shastri so that they become strong and they can become strong in their bhakti also. So that will make them study. Actually so that is what I learned it. And so many are there. I want to share so many. But it's not coming out. I think. Okay.

While he was talking you can't remember more. You told us how you joined Iskom.

How you joined iskcon.

Yeah.

Actually when I was. Actually I came from London to Chennai. When I came to Chennai in London I went to one temple. Not common temple nearby London there is a lot of temple is there? So Prabhupada came there. One time in the UK I went there and showed me. Before that I had an introduction of Juhu I went to. Before going to UK I went to Juhu temple in Bombay. One day before I had seen Juhu temple I got Bhagavad Gita in Telugu In Jifur temple I took Bhagavad Gita too. I was reading regularly. Actually I used to have Gita Godpur book also Both I used to have. So before it's called Bhag.

I read that Bhagavad Gita one or two times. So when I was reading this, having these two books in UK I was whenever I was touching, I was thinking whether I wrote this book or this book.

This doubt I used to have already I already read one day one year before. This book is new to me.

Then I was into that yoga people.

Yoga kind of environment, Yoga society people.

So then by seeing Prabhupada's photo in.

Our book, our book.

Then this person thought about Bhakti only.

He will not show any mystery forms. I was thinking like this.

Okay let's the other people they will teach Bhavtis in a different way. So that will give more, you know yoga related things. So then I was little bit reading that book. Even Heimprohas Book. Then one day I have seen okay, why don't I read this book? Then I started reading this book. After reading this book introduction 35 pages.

Is there mahogi the introduction gurupa right? 30, 35 pages. I read another 35 pages.

I understood I was reading one and a half two years Gitapras Gorakhpur book. But after reading 33 pages of introduction Bhagavad gi said he is the only one person writing about Krishna. Nobody is writing about Krishna. If you see any of the Bhagta, nobody writes about Krishna. Nobody writes about God. Actually what is God? What is Krishna was telling the Bhagta? Nobody writes actually. But he is the only one person writing about Bhuka. Then I understand. Real Bhakti means Real Bhagavad Gita means what Krishna wanted. What Krishna says he is writing in this introduction. Then I understood this. Then I started really pompous. You all know how Prabhupada represents Krishna in every purport. How Prabhupada presents Krishna in every purport. After reading this now I understand. This is the only book which we have to read. Because other books I went into television Theosophical society of England for some time in UK these people when they go to class they will open Bhagat only they will open Bhagavad Gita. And they will speak from Bhagavad Gita only they will speak six chapter one. So after speaking we can't hear what actually he's saying. Because completely talks which we can't even imagine. Because something something he will talk very very. They made at the end how this is very difficult for you to understand. That conclusion. They will get it at the end of the class. Then this is the situation they create all these people. Then I was. I had all this experience past 2 years, 3 years. Then other experience is simply nonsense. He is a real Bhauru. He is teaching better. You start reading. From that onwards I left a bit. I started reading.

This is Bhagavad. Then these are before marriage. One year before marriage.

So then I came to equivalent to Chennai. When I came to Chennai I already had Jiva introduction. Then I thought where is this mah Chennai temple?

I don't know.

I don't know. The Khan Chana temple is there. Then I went to Tirupati. I used to go to Tirupuja regularly.

Every month for the darshan I am alone, right? I used to go nearby Tirupati.

One time these people taught me our.

People in the Temple upwards.

They have star photos and all.

Book. What is this photos? I went there was called.

Then that person is a farmer. He is actually telling about Krishna.

Telling about how he he was speaking about that book was devotee here for he was telling me. You know about Krishna.

I said I read Bhagavad Gita already.

Okay, tell me about Krishna. I said something. Then he told me.

In India people are acting sleepy.

In abroad people are really sleepy.

In India they are acting sleepy.

You cannot awaken them.

And abroad you can easily attend this.

So then I understood what he's telling.

Then he started telling about Gola Gurudana. What is that? I never had Gulabundan word in my life.

I read only Prabhupada's books.

Gola Brudan. Prabhupada writes in books.

Prabhuva writes in purports.

I was there. What is Gula Vrundavan where it is? Then he said what is Gula Brindhan Explain.

Hold Vrurdavan. Oh.

Then I went to something else. Yes. Then where is this called Tripathi. And he told me address Shubha Tripathi.

Come.

I went to beautiful deities. I was so much attached to deities of Radharagananda.

Whenever I go to Tirupati, I'll go.

There sit for a long time.

Only seeing the relatives.

No other job.

Only seeing the deities.

Beautiful relics of Radha Govinda.

I was thinking these two are my mother and father.

I was enjoying the daisna of Radha.

Govinda Karnas beautifully decorates every day.

So attached to the temple.

Even that feeling I got when in my first explanation after new temple Nirupati came. Today I am not getting that feeling. That relation. That feeling. That bliss which I had that before in the world temple beautiful Rao Ashraskiya now came.

But that attachment I don't see now even if I go to the Pujya.

So I was attached to Radha. Every month I used to go for a long time Tirubhuddhi temple. I used to. I used to talk with devotees. I used to take Prasad.

I used to immediately do some seva.

I used to happily enjoy for one year with Tripathi in the weekends.

Weekends. Sometimes in the weekends I used to. Then I was asking one time why.

I am coming always to Tripathi for iskcon.

Why don't you see in Chennai?

I asked him Chennai there is a temple.

If Chennai temple is there, hand me an address. Then another person gave me an address next weekend. Then he said go on Sunday we have a program there in Chennai Sunday evening there Is a program I took the address I went Sunday evening I was in Sarampata nearby I am in one house from there I started I went to Kinnaramba stand I am asking devotees the public where is the bucket road? The toner is in the bucket road. I went inside Bulkhead road Rain came.

Then rain came this one here only just near temple you can easily walk. It's called GARP Then I was walking Rain came I just took shelter of.

Nanapati's very small garbage temple I was in the garbage temple for some time Rain stopped one old man walking I asked where is Kantempur in this world? And I went inside I just tapped him inside Sanjay Hatha Ketan is happening all the devotees are jumping Ketan dancing and all I was just looking at the Kiritram Then after that I had a class I had a class of Sumitara Krishna Prabhu he gave first wonderful class. First class I heard in English that.

Is from ISKCON by hearing his class I understood this is the place in my life I stepped in today only place in my life After I went to many of the organizations But I never seen any real spirituality in real spirituality so by seeing that class by.

Taking nice Prasad after this I understood after so much journey of spiritual life Krishna put me in right place. I was very happy. Now onwards I used to carry everything.

This is my personal initiation. So you have interview Remember the initiative Interview? Yeah and initiation itself.

So in 2005.

The Radhiatra we have taken shelter with both to the patient Radhyatra In January Gurmar came Every used to come for Vyatra generally so he came with and he gave initiation ceremony in that we both took shelter Then that one year she got delivered my son Then she could not chant for few months. Then 2006 Radheanthra Gurma coming to Chennai she they said from temple now haven't you taken initiation last year? How you take initiation? Shelter Last year you take initiation Then I was doubtful actually because he could not chant for few months I'm not much interested for him because from beginning onwards we both took Krishna Sadh we wants to provide shelter now in any.

Session I want to take a loan.

I am not happy. Then I told Kintara Prabhu this is a problem don't worry in your house.

At least you take later she will.

Always take no Prabhu I am not much happy to take alone leaving her.

Don't worry if you are taking initiation.

In the home Krishna will be happy.

At least you Are taking. You are offering your aarti. Offering everything you are doing. After initiation to Krishna and Prabhupada it will be more congenial atmosphere. At least one person in the house is initiated. Then nothing. Nobody is there. That duty.

He was trying to convince me. Then I told her also. She was also not happy. But Sundarabhu forcing me to take. Then I called Ankarsha Prabhu.

He was also telling okay.

If a verb take ask me a predictive. Then I put. I put.

After I leave in the office I.

Went to temple to write the exam. I wrote the exam for 34 hours in the temple. At the time old temple is there 2006 I wrote the exam. I gave the papa.

Then.

Guru Maharaj came next day. Next day. Next to next day Guru Maharaj came to Chennai. She also came with me to the interview. If there is room, all the devotees need to interview from Gurwara. And Guruva is sitting there asking everyone which Leela you want? Guru asked me. She told me don't say any Leela which Guruvara has asked you Say whatever Guruvara you want. You give whatever Leela you want. She told me this.

But I have only desire to ask.

Chetan Leela my only desire. But she told me don't ask any.

Guruvara knows what he wants to do. Let him go. Let him think and give.

Do not ask.

But I am not convinced with that statement.

If Guruj gives me Ram Leela, I am not happy.

If Guravaj gives something Krishna, I am not happy because my heart is something different.

Then.

Okay. Anyhow that is also good. Guru Maharaj knows for my heart he will accordingly he will do. Then next to me there is one more temple devotee. In the first in the line. He is coming.

Guru asked him the temple devotee. He said Chaitanila. Guru Maharaj next turn came to me. I answered Chetalina.

Then she said will you say Chetalina?

Then Gurmara said Gurmar noted this. And I said and what about the chanting? What about the other things Guna was asking? I said there was a thing. Okay, did not say anything.

You are asking just few questions to everyone.

You must man. And he was asking everything.

He was she was not taking.

The Guru was also seeing that she was not able to take. Initially I was not happy, but she's not taking it. He should have got into Guru Mahad on the day itself.

But we don't even sometimes I feel that I should have speak to Guru Maharaj privately and get the blessing straight away.

Leave all the formalities like that.

I was thinking.

But everyone is there in the middle.

So we have to.

It is difficult to handle a sutra Bhavya. So then I lack quite energizing. Then the initiation day came. Next day initiation. So Gurmaraj came with initiation. And all the initiations we are sitting. And on that day Rajeshu Madhyaka mad is taking second initiation. That day I am taking first initiation. We are all sitting next to each other. Then they were taken the second initiation. I was taking first initiation. So then Guruvar called me. I am sitting first come tell me what are the required principles? I said. Then he handed over Mahara to me. He said from today onwards you should chant a minimum 16 rounds at least your name is this. Your name is Amru Chettinas. Take it. And I offered Prophet Guru Maharaj. So this is what my initiation.

Then in the evening everybody.

Said that we have to offer Dakshina to Guru after institution. So I was collected Dakshina from all the devotees. Then I went to Paramburu temple. Because Guru Maharaj giving lectures there in the Guru. I went to Parambur. Parambur Gurumaj gave the class. Then I went to give the extra to Guru Maharaj. After the class. Immediately he was in the Vaisya sir.

He was gave the Vasa sir. I gave that extent. Guru Maharaj.

Guru Maharaj said today you take an initiation. How is your chanting? He asked me this question. You chanted after initiation?

Yes. Who is your chanting then? Actually after initiation I went to home.

I chatted with the beats. I don't know.

On the day I felt that my heart is blocked.

Completely blocked. I was chanting but my heart is blocked. I said same to Guru Maharaj.

Guru Maharaj. Today I was chanting in the home after initiation. My heart looks completely blocked. Why it is? I don't know. I never had this kind of embryo. I used to stand normally. But this time over six months I am happy.

Blocked.

It is happening.

Did not say anything.

Okay.

So that is the first experience of initiation. Then Guruvan Chukra Darshan from now onwards.

Yeah. So for me in 2009 I got. I was getting initiated and Radhika Mataji was introducing everyone. All the Matajis and all. And then she was telling she is Smitha. Why you are asking me? I know already you know about her. I mean at that time Guru Maharaj was not well. Actually we all thinking that he would have forgotten. That's what is my thought actually. And then he said I remember her very nicely. Why you're Telling so that is how. And then Gurumaj asked, what's your which name you wanted? Before the Taalimalj asked me, you didn't write anything which one you wanted and all. And then I said, then I started writing, okay, I'll write something. I said I want to be a servant of all the Vaishnavas. Then I think that was making Guru Maharaj very different. He was thinking for a lot about this. For a whole day he was thinking. And then Adhikamani said that he was thinking so much about your name. For almost a day he was thinking on what to keep. And I think he was very happy. The way I was thinking that you want to be a servant of all the Vaishnavas. That thought is very nice. That's what Guruvaj was telling. And then next day when actually I'm bit scared to talk to Guru Maharaj. Even though before it was different. After he got a stroke. I don't know why, but even I was scared to go and talk something. Then I was thinking Guru Maharaj should not ask anything all the four Ignati. And by the time I came, he didn't ask anything much. Actually just like that, casually he was asking something else. And then he gave me the beats. I mean after that time he was not before he was very strict and all so many we had interviews and all with all the other devotees. But during my time it was very casual because that is the time Guru Maharaj came out and started giving initiations. So then he said, you name is Suddha Vaishnava Sevini Devidasi. And then immediately he put danda or something on my head very heavily. Did you like your name or not? Tell me. I said it's very. I feel very happy. Guru Mahat was very nice him. I can remember myself that I am not a master but I am a servant of everyone. So that is how the. And that experience was very nice with Guru Maharaj. And I mean he was able to understand what we are thinking about. Even before also when I was in Mayapur I used to think why Guru Mahj always will be talking with them? Why he is not talking with us every time closely with other devotees and all. And suddenly Guru Mahj would come and say how are you? What happening? But come on as I will be stunned. What is this? How do how he knows about it? So and. And not only that I had my immediately after marriage I had my some problems issues. Ectopic pregnancy. I had got it. So I was the fallopian Tubes were removed and all the doctors Ranga Prabhu took us to so many doctors. And all the doctors said she can't get the child at all. So that is how then so suddenly it so happened that in 2004 I got a dream where Guru Maharaj came in my dream and said that Radhyatra was going on. And I was standing aside and I was praying to Guru Maharaj. And Guru Maharaj said, don't worry, you'll get a child. Why you are worried about it? So after that within next year I got conceived. Even the doctors were surprised how she got it. And so that is how Leela happened with Guru Maharaj. So that all these incidents made my faith strong. That I should surrender more to Guru. Read the books more. Guru Maharaj always he says that someone asks me what you want? Guru Maharaj he would say that I want my disciples to develop love for God. So that's the point. He says most of the time. So that really strikes. So instead of going just at the back, we have to follow the Vani Seva. What he says to develop that love. And that will happen by reading the books of Prabhupada. And also that inspires me a lot.

You all have a second initiation?

Yeah, we took second initiation.

Can you tell about?

We actually were asked by many many times by temple president and take but one time we have applied and I was not when completed the 2010 applied. I have not completed the Bhagta third time three times. I completed two times. So I said this to Sundarabhu. Because in the interview second interview SunPro was not thinking whether okay not even completed. Then I said I will copy immediately one of those. Otherwise you take next time. Like that he was telling immediately also told me that I will recommend your mentation. Now you will give a notice that you completed two months of grace. Then I said okay. But I was thinking if condition is.

This requirement is you should complete this.

Very time form here.

Then how we can take initiation?

How can I project myself to Guruma where I give initiation without completing the mahogany. I thought okay, let me don't take initiatives. Because Guru wanted this kind of how Gita we should complete. Then only we take initiative. Then I myself said I'll give initiation. Now don't worry, I'll give initiation. You complete this. No Prabhu, I will now take. I will take initiative. I told in that book we both can guess he completed. I am not. Then because of me he has to stop. He said this will not take.

Then after then that is 2000 happened next 11, 12, 30, 14. Every devotee is asking me all this.

But we are not interested. Take anything. 15 came till Adrian Guru Maharaj came. He said not Guru Maharaj.

Every year you are Every year people are keeping escaping, escaping.

Now they don't escape now already gurmarked. We don't know how long the mother lives. Take now. Take now then by force. Okay. This time we will try. We write the paper signature for one day.

Full day morning to night.

It is big paper. Write exaggeration. Long time it took to write paper. So many questions. Then we the next marathon. Prabhu. All this Gurma servants gap orientation we took the Maharam is very clear. He was also rejecting many people in interview.

They told us if you are not clear in your philosophy, in your thing, they will not give you any. Because Guruvarajanti is not good.

They don't want to take risk from Guru Maharaj.

You should be clear with all your requirements.

Should be clear with philosophy. Then all they will give. Otherwise they will not give. Strict was going on in that time. First at the time first interview was done by Chennai initiation team.

They will first clear you. Then only they will put you in.

The Gurmar servant's interview. Like the two levels of interviews. All that. So like the first interview took by our Chennai team. Then again took by Maharaj or both of us. I think for her another devotee like that interview happened the next day Gurmara. Second we have taken initiation. The tenant in the hall our temple the talk Gurmaj he gave very nice extra holy name. Very nice lecture. Second initiation he gave lecture. We had lecture. So when Gurmaj in the night he gave Vai mantra to all of us.

So he was telling.

He was telling. On the day you have to follow these rules and regulations. Because it is signing situation. You have to be careful in following everything. Otherwise it will have to prove this is the instruction. We got it in the signal situation.

So that is why we have to be careful.

While Guru B is affected with that.

That is why we are restrict on the signal session.

That's what we got instruction from servants.

Personally the Gayatri there he gave Gayatri.

To all of us.

No all together at one very minute.

When 1520 devotees are there where Guru.

Maharaj on the day what happened?

He was not feeling well. In the evening, afternoon. We should not take Prasadam before Gayatri all that day. Then Guru Maharaj told the servants they are waiting without Prasad already 4 o', clock, 5 o'.

Clock.

I cannot come and give the IC. So let him take prasad and wait for. So Gurmaraj gave all Prasad at 5 o'.

Clock.

Then at 10 o' clock Gurmaraj little bit happy to give Gayatri 9th round. He came outside.

Then he gave Gayatri and.

He was gave Gai 3. He was wearing all the threat to all of us. Even personally putting the thread. That is a good thing. Even as a spiritual master Diksha. He will put the threat to us. Not that we put ourselves. He personally come and put and he will personally tell Vayatri master to everyone. And he was sent with the paper of that Ayatri master paper. And he gave instructions. These are what you have to do.

So like, you know, second initiation is like that Gurumar first initiation, you just give the name and we'll go. Nothing is there. But second Guru Maharaj takes little care. You are spending time, you are talking.

You are seeing whether everybody is okay. And gives Gayatriya mantra. He repeats Gayajna mantra. We repeat Gayatri mantra in Guru Maharaj. We repeat that. We see that first time we are reading all these mantras. We don't know Papur was given to us. We are reading from Pampar Guru telling that we hear it properly and we get Gayatri manipulant. So from that time onwards Gayatra mantra in Gayatri initiation is somewhat special for.

Mataji. Something to say about your second initiation.

So as usual I was not much into taking the second initiation. Actually somehow Radha Gama was forcing us to take. I was not at all willing to take because I was in one way scared that I do lot of mistakes. It's not that I don't do at all. I'm not. So I was scared. And from morning we were not having anything. And I used to get headache, migraine. I have. So I was asking when will initiation get over and all. But it was really late that the Guru Mahar just monitored. Well, he was. So we all. And we were also scared of the interviews which were, you know, deep, philosophically. They were asking and they were discussing whole day over that. And finally everything. I don't know how it went on. Very casually, it was very free. And we went to the one room next to Ban Maharaj's room where it was. And whole night we were writing the exam. That is really very, very difficult. Suddenly morning I said and said by night before that he had to give it out. Whole night we didn't sleep. We just writing right here. And it's not ending at all. 60 questions. I think something like that. So many questions.

Any other memory from Guru Maharaj in Mayapur for example?

I mean when I came for the first time when there was on Gaura Purima day before they all the ashes there is mix in the Ganges actually. So that is the day we were all there with Guru Maharaj. Guru Maharaj is going in the middle and putting all the ashes and all. Suddenly he chanted the name of Gauranga. It was in the middle and it started raining heavily. So heavy. And we all came out of the water outside and we started running back to the rooms. And so I was thinking how by chanting Gauranga two, three times in the mid of the sun was so heavy, very hot. Actually it was raining very heavy rain. It was not normal. So that stunned me a lot. That kind of. It's a different experience actually.

So.

But we would have had many experiences.

Guruvara. Our experiences are not that much. But one thing like you know now Guruvar is not able to come for he was stranger coming to the Parikrama place before itself. I used to do how Guruvar used to do.

He used to be standing when Parikrama.

Is going to start first day and then in the morning 6 o' clock Guru Maharaj come make everybody to board the boat. He personally stand near the bank.

All the thousands of devotees will board. The last devotee will board the boat. Till that he was outside making everyone.

To board the boat. He will not board the boat.

He will wait for everybody to complete all boarding. Nobody will be there in the bank. When everybody everything is settled. When the boat's ready to go then only he will go to the boat.

He takes utmost responsibility for entire program of Parasurama.

He takes every pinpoint. Then one day with me he came.

With Guru Maharaj Parakrava time we came with. This is before stroke. This is before stroke. 2008 Guru Maharaj asking he came to camp with all of us walking. Sadhguru came immediately called somebody and to bring Prasad waiting. He said Prasad after Prasad Guru Maharaj.

Said now I am going to take.

The bath in the Ganges Pura coming.

Then we are all immediately becoming ready for taking Ganges. So it seems that he always wants be with the devotees and always take care of devotees. Give how much association possible.

He must give his association to devotees. Never thought of little bit away from devotees.

Whatever how much time possible. He always be with the devotees and give association his time for devotees. And he doesn't want to be alone in his life Every time. He always Thinks of devotees.

I want to take care of him. This one is more than Guru Maharaj.

Asked him not to go. During the Parikrama you went for only four days. And then?

Actually first time I went to Parikrama I did. I came for three days. I took only three days leave in the office.

One week leave. So I cannot complete whole parama. So I completed three days Parakrama. Then I went to Guru Maharaj. Guruvara. I'm leaving another four days. I cannot take. You should not leave Parakrama without completion. It is an offense. Then I said my office is only this much.

Only leave I got.

I cannot take. No, no. You should not go like this. Then I don't know what to do. Then Rama, he also.

He is also like. He's skipping the vagrama.

Then he came.

Gurmata, we are leaving. Why you are leaving?

Middle of Karakrama Rajag Mataji came.

She has said I'm leaving. People are leaving. Hira P should not go. You should not miss the middle of you should not go. Then Guruva told me I don't have another choice.

I heard Gurvaj's words.

Okay.

Maharaj came out.

That is. I don't know whether it is a punishment or it is offense punishment to me. 2004 I did like that up to 2014 I could not attend paragraph.

After 10 years I got attended for a guru. That is 414 I did four.

So we should not actually cross the program.

That is the one thing. Another thing is what?

Yeah, I think here is one experience. May be there. We went with Guru Maharaj to take.

Bath on that day with Parikra Maharaj.

Guru Maharaj was heavy empty body.

Right?

So I already into the water.

It's many devotees. NASA Maharaj was there. I think Bhart Swami is also there.

We are already in the water. Guru Maharaj is the last person to jump in the water.

Into the water. Everybody was in the water.

We are waiting Guruva to jump. We are waiting in the water. He jumped like from here to into the water. Whole water got in the surface. So I was actually in the water for Gurma jump. I drowned in the water. Girl. I don't know swimming. I drowned in the water. I could not. I went down. I could not breathe. I don't know swimming. Nothing is there for me to hold to come out. Then maybe I don't remember.

30 seconds, one minute.

I was not able to come out because my mud. I went in the mud. It is slippery. I could not find anything to hold and nothing Is there to push down and come up. Because soil is slippery. If I push down, I am going further down. Then I was a little worried. See how I can come now. Because no swimming. I don't swim. No breathing is not there. I don't know swimming People doesn't know. Now then I was thinking. I was thinking Guru Maharaj, please save me. Over here only next to please save me. Save me. I don't know what happened. Suddenly one stick was there in the soil. Long stick is there. It touched my hand. I hold that one. I was holding that one without going into the soil. Furthermore I was holding that stick and climbing the stick slowly come out.

Then I was seeing. Then I came to the water.

I was thinking maybe I was thinking Guru Maharaj, please wait like got the.

Stick in the hand.

This is what I was thinking that day. So finally I understand. Because this project here somehow or other will be get saved. This is what I feel the other day. Whether I got a doubt whether I leave or not. Because for a minute I was in the water without breathing. I don't know whether I can come out or not. And I was shouting. Nobody can hear inside the water. So he is not that experience. And after thinking of Guru Maharaj, please protect me. Then I got the stick and came out.

Actually with so much difficulty. Then ever then see Guru is the only protector for all of us. When we are in danger, always think of Guru. Somehow or other Krishna will arrange.

Krishna will definitely arrange something. When we are thinking of Guru has arranged.

This is a very good lesson we got. Actually Guru mat asked everybody to come to taking bath.

That day only happened.

I thought it is a lesson for me on the day so better. We always think of Guru on your knee. So that will help us.

You mentioned about that Guru Maharaj Guruva was playing ball.

He was playing ball with Rasu Maharaj.

And other Maharaj is playing ball. And he was enjoying the whole thing. I was a little bit. Okay, I don't want to disturb Guru Maharaj.

Then Guru Maharaj so many devotees that.

When Guru Maharaj goes Parikrama so many.

Devotees went to Guru Maharaj to take Bharat. So I did not tell Guru Maharaj. But I think I wrote in something in the Asma Jung Lord Krishna. I think that's all the wish I would tell you.

Okay, so here when we were there, there were some issues where I was thinking to take my son to Pune. So put him in the Pune school. So that he will grow up in a good atmosphere and all. So with this kind of Thought Rangakrishna Baba was not so happy actually. And he doesn't want us to go from this place. So he said, go and check with Banma Maharaj. And Banuma said, okay, you go. And then Rangakisha Babu said, no, no, you take one more decision. Guru Mah is coming. You ask Guru Maharaj also. Then he said, okay. Then we together we went to Gurumaya's room that day. We were waiting for a long time actually. And then somehow we got into Gurumaya's room and we were made to sit. And then I was telling the situations. I want my son to be grown in a good atmosphere and devotees association and all. So I want to shift there. But the main aim is mine is different. I want to shift completely from here actually to Pune with all devotees and all actually there. And then Gurmaj thought for almost for 10 minutes. He was thinking for a long time. And then he said, don't think that which is very far is very good from here. It seems like everything is good there. So don't think like that. He said this point and then he said, okay, you cannot get any idlis and dosas over there in Pune they will eat only chapatis. You will not like it. It is very, very dry. You cannot live there. So I want you to be here only. He said. And then, and then he said and then again he was thinking for a long time, for some time then what I can do for my son and all. And then he said that you think in a broad way. Don't think about yourself selfishly. Think about all the children, what good you can do for everyone. Here you start something, a school kind of one for everyone, all devotees and everyone. And go to all these schools in Juhu and get the result what we had discussed with them and get back to me. So that is how then we were. It was almost for half an hour. And after that Gurmaj hugged my Prabhu very heavily and he gave blessings to both of us, to Ramakrishna Prabhu and all. And then we came out and then we were sent to all these places and all. Gopal Garden School, all this. We were talking with all this and then we were, I mean, have a meeting with Ban Maharaj also. Ban Maharaj was not so much into this kind of school because he saw so many schools in Iskcon where it's not going well. So he is not much favorable to this one kind of one. He said, if they are all becoming Brahmacharis, then I will accept the school wanted All Brahmacharis here. So he said that is the condition he kept. And later we met with Mahavara Prabhu and our others and we discussed. And Mahavara said that you do something on your own. Then if temple is not able to do something, you try on your own what you can do in your attempt.

But we also reported the Gurmas two, three times. And what what is happening and what is the progress we admitted. Okay. Temple is not accepting. Okay, let me think of this. I think I have to speak to temple of this. So. And then after that I got the Mahavara after about six months. Then one hour I covered the whole thing. Like once again to Maharaj whether we can disturb Guru Maharaj once again. Because Guru Maharaj already into so many things. We don't want to disturb Guru Maharaj. Always with this you try but not possible. He said.

But unless Guru Maharaj says nobody hears.

That's what we understand in Chennai.

So if he says anyone to do this immediately people will run. He pray doesn't say nobody will run.

So that way we understand. And Guru Maharaj said. Okay, let me think about it.

After that we did not disturb Guru.

Maharaj on this matter.

Because he was after that his transplantation came. This happened in 2016 16. His transplantation happened in 182 years.

We did so much work about the school which Guruvaz wanted in Chennai but did not work it out. Even temple management is form did not support us. They don't want to support us.

It is recording everything now.

I think it is a good thing.

To speak on the same.

So then Maharaj also on this matter and Varamara why you people are keep on coming? The same thing I told you, right?

If you are willing. If you show that they will be.

With us after school program it is okay. You are spending so much effort.

After that they will leave you. What is the purpose of your Rapper.

Varma asking this question to all of us?

But Gurmaraj is different.

Okay, discuss.

And he also tried to say that.

He told Makrishna Prabhu to search for areas search for land. Ismail Chanda has some lands nearby. He'll try some other some land. Gurma knows some lands of isp. He personally knows. He was telling my question. These are lands and I have to try to work on them. So but he asked not because he.

Doesn'T want to do against team D against two environment.

All these issues are there.

After that whatever team we gathered a big team with full support. When temple is not interested, Temple management itself is not support. Then everybody Go like that. Simple itself is not supported. Why we have to stay? Everybody went back simply supported. They are ready to support. Then whole thing got crashed. Now we are alone. Alone difficult to do. We also something will happen Gurma. Something mercy us in the future something may happen as he told us to do. But we could not do we even my vascular qualification this year also I wrote the same thing. Last I wrote the same thing Guru Maharaj Guruvar reads any vascular education. He may get into this thought. But I write. I always say Guru Maharaj. Even I want to say I want.

To tell the many devotees Also whatever.

Guru Maharaj lectures we hear really it gives a very drastic impact in our consciousness. The way he presents his Chaitrajira lectures is a very drastic improvement in our consciousness. Because of him only everybody gets into Chitra Mahaprabhu attachment. He is the first Imbaxant. And one thing in everybody's experience is there. And my experience also by reading his lectures even transcript of his lectures of Chaitan era we see he is not a Dabi. He presents lectures really it gets into everybody's heart. The way he gives the lecture of Setan Leela it gives very impact in our hearts. That's what I had. And I also expressed this to in.

Glorification of my father last two, three years.

So this is. I feel that everybody has to read at least not every hear means at least read Gurmar lectures of Chaitanvilla. Definitely they will come very much attached.

To the Mah Prabhupada.

I mean when we have faith on Guru he'll be guiding us every step by step in our devotion. Actually I also see practically in my life how his lectures and all whenever I hear I'll be sent to the next level. What your stage is now, how you have to go further. So like Guru and Krishna is guiding us every time. So. But unless until we have the faith on Guru that we not we will be in the same place again.

So sometimes we've seen by hearing his.

Lectures taken in the lectures now past.

Many years it is happening. He is so much empowered by the Chetrava Vaan Prabhu that he can easily convert any soul hearted person into a devotee. He has that power, he has that empowerment. Very simply he can easily do it anything doesn't need to struggle to do anything. He has an empowerment and his way of. Even today his body looks like handicapped. But the way he works is beyond understanding.

That's what Gurumar is doing today.

And ultimately his lectures is even short.

Tutsam Short videos, short secrets of it all.

That is a very drastic impact. The simple thing he will tell because he is empowered and he has power.

Simple things will get into the heart of everybody. We are fortunate to have Guru Maharaj in our life. For every at least we could feel.

That he is there for us. Even though we are not meeting regularly. Personally meeting him is very difficult because he is very far all the time. Still we can feel that if we go, he is there for us. Whatever situation is there, he will be there for us. That is no doubt that conviction we got.

Everybody has many devotees as Guruval is there for us.

One question is how you see Guru Maharaj relating with his Godbrothers. How you saw him like before and even now how he relates with his Godbrothers, his God brothers.

God brothers, God brothers.

Very personal, very personal.

And.

Yeah, he's very personal and caring for them. Once I heard Guruvara saying about Ayindra Prabhu he was something happened like Ayindra Prabhu got hurt and then immediately he sent some gifts for him to know personally. Personally I think I don't know exactly. So that kind of with everyone he deals very personally. And it's not just like that. If we are there means we just call up and say something like that. But he deals everything very personally which is very much needed. That's how we should also deal with our Vaishnavas, Godbrothers and God sisters. Caring them as their own personal one.

Another experience I have seen is.

In 2013.

He came to Mayapur for the Before Vyas Puja. So and Gurujana Prabhu was there my.

Immediately Guru Maharaj called both of them for the lunch. So Guru Maharaj on the day we were thinking that Guru Maharaj sees anybody.

Comes to my pole after long time.

Guruvas call them for lunch with him. Actually he always how to he thinks he is the host for everybody's welfare. That is what is nature. Whoever comes to Vayapur Vajad Prabhupada's disciple immediately first he is the first one to take care of them and give like this actually relates with Chetra. Vahaprabhu takes care of all the devotees coming from Bengal to Puri for Dayatra. He will personally think of foundation Prasadam for everybody. Properly settled or not. He himself takes even devotees are there to take care of many devotees. But still he personally takes care of every aspect the same any Guru Mahara takes every aspect of all these Godbrothers.

And with your blessings we got salvation of Guru Mahara, all these Godbrothers in Gaurav. Guru, one evening you gave a service to us. This was my so like this he.

Personally wanted and that for that experience in 2013.

Another thing is when our.

Bhakti Branga.

View is from bhakti Gondra Maharaj.

2014 it was a passage passed away. Maharaj was in Chennaipur at that time. His mother passed away on the Ketru Mera day. So this is my personal understanding. I'm not sure whether I am right or wrong. This is my personal understanding. So Bachman Maharaj has to do Kirtan in the temple hall. He was not. He was not available at that time. Then we are thinking why Maharaj was not there. Then Actually after one hour Guru Maharaj.

Came with Bibiji Swami both came.

When Guru Maharaj came, he announced.

He said today our dear Bhakti Puruna Swami his mother passed away. So he regretted Vaishnava. So he his mother passed away having such exalted Vishnu. And as a son she got very much blessed. She got blessed by Lord Krishna Brim also.

And Maharaj is so much attached to.

His service in the Vayakkur.

He said he's not going to passed away in America.

It's a long way she has to go. He's not going to see the mother.

But he was praying from here.

So everybody chanted for Bhakuananda. Bhakti Bibi is Swami's mother.

And Guru Maharaj is happy. And Bhakbi Swami Hazrat Guru Maharaj for a long time you made everybody to bless my mother. Today in the Ketra hall. So I am very happy.

So that Guru Maharaj even Guru Maharaj.

For a long time on that day I was there in Ketra Mahal. I was thinking why Bibi Swami did not come for Ketan? Because he wants to come with Guru Maharaj. For that Gurmaj personally take care of his God brothers. That's why he went there to bring Guru Maharaj. That is one thing. Another thing is we were serving prasadam to all the God brothers of guru Maharaj.

In 2004 in the biofur Guru Maharaj.

Came to know this. And he when we were serving our service is not with proper. We could not do naicy service very fast.

Of all the Maharajas I.e.

The Gaurupram of Israel many Maharaj came.

We could not properly do service. Some shortbacks are there.

So then Guru Maharaj took an action immediately.

He told you should not have problems in service. Our Godwas are very Important Purva's disabled.

You should serve them properly. And he the situation came to Guru Maharaj. Guru Maharaj gave an idea of doing nice service for them in the Gada hall, VIP hall.

Then we did in the afternoon.

So he always think of God brothers.

Properly take care and all the aspects. So that his he first gives performance to Godbrothers. They are settled naturally that what we see.

I forgot few instances also if they.

Move this year Gur Purnima in the dinner for the Godbrothers of Guru Maharaj. You remember something for this year you were helping. They are serving.

Yeah. When we are serving this year Dharpunima festival. You told us to serve. Right.

With your blessings. Yeah.

That Guru Maharaj was there came, we are serving all the Prabhupada decibels. We were practically serving there at that time. Then I was thinking, I think Guru Maharaj first from the down he came up. From the down he came up and first he was rounding all the tables talking to every disciple, every person and asking him, talking to him. And he was spending time with everyone. So he was actually teaching us what is Vaishnava. See, we see Vaishnavas has to be respected. But Vaishnava not in respect. We should come from the heart. And it should properly nicely with love and affection. We have to take care of him. That Gurman is showing.

At least we got that experience opportunity because of you.

You wanted us to serve something. We did that service on that day or Purma evening.

So I had a good experience on that day in the evening this way.

I don't know that every year this happens. I came to know only this time past 30 years.

30 minutes we are doing this.

Yeah. More than 30 years.

So many things we don't know what Guru Maharaj is doing.

That's why this recording.

So everybody will know what Guru Maharaj is doing.

Because we don't know what he is doing.

Actually many things we don't know.

And his nature is that how much he is facing problems. He never no came doesn't want to tell his disciples to know more about that. He was only taking care of everything. But he will take care of even so much struggle. He give class, he's taking care of.

The devotees disciples in the class.

But he did not tell what problems he is facing. So that way his mentality is attitude is very difficult to get it by everyone.

But that attitude we have to learn from him.

Many things we have to learn from him.

I say how to tolerate, how to.

Forgive and how to taking care of every aspect of the disciples or God brothers or newcomers, whoever it is, anyone how to take care of everyone. So he is actually mercy personified or.

So many things we can say like that he is having that qualities which.

All the Chetra Mahaprabhu associates Chaitra Mahaprabhu qualities.

Everything he has actually all the hy suits of Lord Chaitanya.

What qualities he personally has to do. He is a personal freedom. All these qualities.

Actually you can see in him all these qualities.

Maybe you can tell us how you see Guru Maharaj following Srila Prabhupada instructions. You can say, I see how Guru Maharaj follow Srila Prabhupada instructions.

Gurumaj always meditates on them and all his. Basically I was very much attached to Srila Prabhupada after getting into it. And I also see that in all his lectures he would not miss glorifying Srila Prabhupada. And the instructions are even though it is smaller or bigger, he would take it to the heart and he will mated on them continuously. So that's what I see. Yeah. From first itself, I was very much attached to Srila Prabhupada. So when I see Guru Maharaj always talking glorifying Srila Prabhupada, I also started getting attachment towards Guru Maharaj that he is glorifying Srila Prabhupada and all. And I see all the time in all his lectures he will not miss Srila Prabhupada glorifying. In every lecture he will glorify Srila Prabhupada then meditates on what he is telling the instructions and all and practically implement like Gaudi Saraswat Swami. And he would always say these are my instructions that need to be followed. And he really it's very difficult just to follow one instruction of the Guru. But we see that all those instructions, so many instructions. Gurmaj has been following Chinna actually, which is not so easy thing to do. I used to hear a lot of Prabhupada lectures and all. And I was very much attached to his lectures. So when I see Guru Maharaj, he is always glorifying Srila Prabhupada. I also know I started liking him very much that Guru Mah is glorifying Srila Prabhupada and all. And I also see that he meditates on those instructions every day. He sees. I mean even the Guru Maharaj generally he gives in a class something we don't take it so Seriously. But Guru Maharaj whatever Srila Prabhupada tells in the normal classes also he will take to the heart and try to implement it all those instructions. But in the house I always see that Guru Maharaj says that Srila Prabhupada likes rose flowers. So I try to keep at least those flowers. I don't follow any instructions of Guru Maharaj. At least let me do this one small thing. So that is how I thought. But it's very difficult to follow some instructions when Guru gives. It's not so easy to follow. But I see Guru Maharaj so many instructions trying to follow what Dashila Prabhupada has given to him.

And I heard one time Guru Maharaj asked Mahavaram Prabhu now I'll tell you what are instructions.

Prabhupada told me you write in a paper. He was keep on telling so many instructions.

Maharaj writing so many instructions.

Many. So many end he was writing. Dhruma is trying to remember remember everything and he keep on writing.

Mahara Prabhu was telling in one interview, in one class I was writing so many instructions.

How Durba remembers after 50 years of.

Guruba told something 50 years back and.

He told many times whatever. We remember everything what Prabhupada told Long 50 years back and remember everything and recollecting everything and telling one by one. It is not so easy for us to remember many things. Maybe some things one or two with remember but so many things we cannot remember. But Guruva is Ramik and he was telling in the class. Prabhupada told me many instructions to follow.

To implement some things I have not.

Told you do it like this.

Guruva is studying in the class. And first of all Prabhupada recently we heard from whom Yesterday I was here.

Yesterday I was hearing.

Amangalila Prabhu glorifying Guru Maharaj in the Vyas Puja last this last month. Vyas Puja.

So Prabhupada told him Guru Maharaj in 1971 to develop the Tuga b in my court. Then Prabhupada told to Guru Bharat I want a temple where 10,000 people can stand have a Darshana. In that temple all 10,000 people have to stand and have a Darshana. Of he is what we have to build like this. Prabhupada told Guru Maharaj he was remembering that and that is why he is constructing govp today like this 10,000 people have to stand and see like this. And Prabhupada wanted. He wants to have that planet Ayric plant only.

So Prabhupada wanted.

He is the main instruction of Prabhupada. Prabhupada is a dream. I have to fulfill it somehow or other. And whenever we see.

Prajiva los Brahma.

Speaking in the Mayap he always says Jabada Maharaj always asks me when is this temple going to open. I am holding my life for this. I am waiting. I want to do first authority in the temple when that day will come. Tell me, tell me, tell me. He keep on asking Vrayji Dhalas Prabhu.

So when this temple will open.

So Gurmar main is main. Like we don't know how long he will stay. Because he said to Brinder Rajas Prabhu I was holding my life for this at this event.

So expect me it will complete one day.

And Gurmara is now taking care of special special service of him in this.

Temple is this very planet exhibits. That is Gurva's responsibility.

Now he only have to design. He only has to guide how should be the Abhijit plantary mold structure.

So he's working on that Especially on this exhibits for the Ve planatorium. And his instructions. Everybody knows he has many instructions told by Guru Prabhupada. He's following. He's implementing everything.

Nowadays we see Guru Maharaj made so many changes in the whitepool. So many new new things he is innovating in the whiteboard now he started building hospital. He started building other things. What expanding, upreaching. So many new things he started. We don't know because he may believe Parikram changed all the Navyap Mandal Parikram purchasing all the places in Navarma Parikram. So many new new things he is implementing. Now he's very. Before that he was not doing. Now he was doing so many new things. So many new plans. He's making all the devotees. So many teams he formed. Like you know, like robot is working very hard, you know, he was sitting only. He does only two actions.

Either sit or lie down.

With these two postures he is doing entire world. So this is very simply sitting and doing everything is very difficult. But he is doing everything by just simply sitting. Sahara's mind is working very hard, you know. So by seeing that at least we should be actively Sadhu. Whatever he is doing, we should be.

Very active in doing many things. And we attended this Bhakti Vaibhava course certificate. Gurma was taking in the vaiipur this time he was taking Bhakti Vaibhava big certificates and we were there and the certificate when Guru was taking in the hall and we taken photo with that certificate even though we are not here. So that at least by seeing that we get into Vakshasari Seriously by that certificate. So.

You have another memory. Memory What Another memory With Guru Maharaj.

You can take memories of guru maharaj?

Yeah.

2003 I think so three or five.

2005 guru maharaj came to Chennai in the evening. He was on the way to Los Angeles.

He was boarding flight from Chennai to Singapore in Los Angeles.

So he came here. He was boarding in the night.

He came evening to temple and I came to know.

I am in the office I came to know I got a phone call immediately I took.

I was in the office with the administrator. I purchased some fruits. 2003 I thought four I think four or five. I bought some fruits from outside. I went to temple with the fruits I want beautiful Bharat.

He came in the evening from my airport and he came to temple hall for giving class. In the evening around 7 o' clock.

He gave class it became 8 o' clock then few people came in the evening at that time our Bhakirav temple Old temple. Not pure temple Old temple Very few people were there. Guru Maharaj gave a class.

We are very few and other people we won't slept.

Maybe I am alone in the hall with Gurmalaj.

Maybe immediately I gave this person Guru.

Maharaj.

This is Bhagavad Prasad. At that time I was confused what to answer. Then I don't know what is Bhagava what is Prasad? I was little thinking four hours. Tell me this is Bhaga or Prasad. I was not about to ask her. I don't know what I answered also But I don't have a conscious. I said something Bhoga.

Okay. Oh okay.

Then after that I was thinking what.

Else or not I was thinking okay. Prasad means offered food Bhagavad okay I.

Think right Then after that one group of students came suddenly to make Guruvana they are college students in my Indian college. They want to meet Gurvala I think somebody told them to come to temple. They captured only I was with them in that group 15, 20 students were there Guruvar standing in the temple hall. All the students came.

I am standing with them. I want to see what he is telling.

He is speaking to the students and he is speaking speaking 10 to 10 minutes he is telling I came here to Chennai to serve you. Tell me how can I do now.

He selling the statement to students.

Can I understand he such a my he's telling like this to students. Just came from college. So my seeing his nature I understood. So the thing is we have to learn actually not that getting into position or getting big position of fame and name. But we are only meant to serve theoretically. I was not into much service. But I was thinking his nature is that he is just like new person, just teenage students. He is telling that he is a.

505050 years old Vasar and with ISKCON responsibility as a head.

Still he was talking with I can.

I want to serve you.

I will take care of you. Tell me what service I have to do for you. This is what he was saying. Then I understood. He is a way we have to.

Learn in our life.

Not that we should be. We are some manager or poster, whatever president or whatever we are. But we should be always the mood of serving whatever position we have that.

Learn lessons learned on the day with Guru Maharaj. So Here is what one experience I got at this moment.

In 2010 when Guru Maharaj came to BSNL quarters, we went for the lectures and series because Gurmaj was staying there for 10 days. Then we went there one day. It so happened that when I was returning, I was buying something and I lost my. I forgot my channing bag there itself. I just got initiated in 2009 and 2010 this happened. And then after reaching house, I see that it's not there. And immediately I went there to find out that that bag is also not there. Which I left it out in that bag itself. Everything is there. So I don't know what to do. I was crying the whole night. I don't know what to do. And then suddenly Gurmail was leaving next day, I think so to Coimbatore. And then Rangakrishna Prabhu, I think he said that you come to Coimbatore. And then Shamaska Prabhu he said, I.

Think we went to Coimbator immediately.

And then after reaching there, Shyama Raskaprova asked me how did you lose this? He said, somehow I don't know. I was holding my son. He is very, very young. And then the bag was. I just left it out there without knowing it. Then he went and told Guru Maharaj about this one. And then Guru Maharaj scolded, next time if you lose, I will not give you beads. So that is how it was. I was thinking, will I get the beads or not? How will I chant my rounds? It was so Confusion for me, very severe tension at that time. Somehow Guru Mahaj showed mercy. And then I thought that scolding is also a mercy from Guru Maharaj. So that I take seriously the chanting and all. So till now I am scared of chanting them taking anywhere out. So that's one of her lessons. And Shyamanaska Prabhu said that don't worry Gurma. Scolding is also a blessing for you. Don't get upset. So that's one. Actually I was thinking for a long time to serve Guru Maharaj somehow or other in cooking and all. So somewhere in Delhi I got an opportunity. We went to Delhi that time and where he was staying somewhere. Nivedita was there at that time in the temple. Madhakan Prabhu was cutting the vegetables and oil and he gave me some bada.

Actually fortunately we went to Delhi from Vrindavan. Gurumar is there in Delhi in his home.

We went to Iskcon temple for Darshan. Iskcon on that hill.

Gurma was there. That is him before in the guest house. And we just had the restaurants. Suddenly Gurumas appeared in the temple hall. What? He was here? Guruma is here only then they said some service. Go and take do some service. Then they put us in the some service. Gurma is a cutting service, cooking service.

So some devotees put us in service.

Service just in one night. One day only we stayed in Delhi that one day we got service of Guru Maharaj and respected.

And we had Ashwam Guru Maharaj service.

In the night we left from Delhi.

So that day Madhakan Prabhu was there. He was cutting vegetables and all. And I was cutting the badam. Don't you know the katta with badam also? I had to teach you how to cut the badam. Don't you know how to cut? So that's it's not worse for Guru Mahaj. Somehow I got the opportunity there to serve Guru Maharaj there and then here also I never been to serve Guru Maharaj personally cooking and all. Somewhere Adhika Mazi called up. I think two years past year. I think so. And then I was. Before that I was meditating at Sambhur. Gurumay at least once I should serve you in my life before I leave. I never saw Gurumail cooking and anything like that. Somewhere last time Radhika Mer called up and said that I'm not well. You have to come and cook. Myself and Gulsanandi together we were cooking for Guru Maharaj for almost a week. I think so together. So it's a great. It's a mercy of Guru Maharaj. That's what I thought. He's hearing whatever. Just if we are desiring to serve Guru then Guru will arrange everything.

So one more experience. Suddenly Gurmadur came to Chennai in 2005. He was from airport. He came transfer provost. That is only one time I think King Banana.

He came from provost and then he came here.

And I was in far from office in Panchal.

Straight away came to Provant.

He giving class. He did not start in class. He came. He was devotees for student Chita.

Then I was.

And devotees have to do Khadar Padha Puja to him and Rankishina Prabhuva house. Rankrishna Prabhu is there Aditya Mataji Both are there. Pini devotees were there. Pariyama Padmana Mataji is also there. I was there in front with pant in front. I had a desire to wash Gurmala's feet.

Then I have a desire.

I was thinking in my mind actually. But I am a pan shirt. It is. I am not in a Brahmachari dress or Vaishnava dress. And it is Rajsham Provost. Actually host will do the power Puja that is generally happens and Brahmacharisa so much as they do.

Then Guru Maharaj was.

Seeing here and there. He asked Prem Mataj to come.

And so yeah, come here. Mataji came.

I don't know who is Pich Prabhu is doing.

Just put the water.

Mataji is putting water washing the feet. I have a desire to do that. Immediately I jumped into the spot. I started while doing it. Nobody objected anything I was dealing with for a few minutes. Kurma did not see anything. So I did. Then after that I came. I think I wiped out.

I was sitting.

Nobody said to me anything. And Guru Maharajnath said nothing. I understand. When you have a senior desire, something will work or you will get the.

Mood to do it.

I did it and like and nobody said anything to me or even nobody asked. Even Guru Maharaj nobody asked me why is in front of 5060 people with pants shirt having doing Padbuja. It is not an acceptable Guru for generally commerce has gotten that. So sometimes I remember I think it is only Guru Maharaj see when we have a sincere desire. Maybe Guru Maharaj accepted or whatever.

I don't know.

But I did that.

Nobody complained. That happens. And when I was last year in the class I was telling I used.

To serve Guru Maharaj few times in.

Telephone quarters, BSM quarters and other places.

When I was Serving he was two, three times he was asking me Krishna.

Prayer when I was serving fruits and some dosas and all.

He said, I don't want this.

I don't want this fruits and all.

I want to do kp.

Give me Kpop.

You know what is kid then? Yes, Maharaj. Then give me kid Then see what we can give. We cannot give any answer for that. Then give me KPI. Then Guru Maharaj asked Khipi to me. So then I gave Maharaj take fruit.

No, I want give me KPI.

So like that I gave fruit is not 8.

So no everyone like this.

He actually he knows how to deal with the neophytes, how to deal with the new people, how to deal the existing devotees, how to deal with the seniors, how to deal with temple person.

He knows every cadre, how to handle.

How to speak that he does with everyone. And he also understands other people's hearts that he has. Actually if you are there in front of him, he can read other people's mind and he can act accordingly. He can do that.

He has that power.

Maybe something we can't understand, but he can read others. One devotee was telling in Mayapur to me.

When.

One devotee, a proper disciple or.

One wants to give, wants to invite.

Gurmaraj for the program in the Mayapur. So the devotee came to Guru Maharaj.

To invite Guru Maharaj to the Lotus building room. Guru Maharaj room. He came to invite Gurmaraj to the program in the Grastha complex. Gostha complex.

As soon as the devotee entered the.

Hall, entered Guru Maharaj's room.

Guru Maharaj immediately said he was doing something. Gurumaj immediately said to the devotee, I know that Jaime had been right there. He was also thinking me, what food I take. This is my food. He gave all the whatever he has questions he already answered with asking everything answered. You know, is he okay for you? Okay, you got everything?

He's right.

So he can read easily people's mind.

He has that abilities. That's at least we can remember our.

Guru Maharaj like this. Whatever we had experienced in our life.

And his nature, his transcendental qualities, his taking care.

He is considering everyone as his own people. He sees everyone as his own people. That nature, these things at least we don't have. I don't have the qualities. At least I have to learn at least those qualities. Little bit here and there to improve.

That we can do little bit. So these qualities wonderful. He has.

Any other first time matagi. If you don't have anything you remember now you can, if you want, you can say some words for Gur Maharaj.

Some words?

Yeah, I want to tell some words. Gurmarj, you have to tell to Guru Maharaj.

I have only mainly one thing.

Whatever I do in my life, I should not first do any offenses so that Guru Maharaj will be affected by that or any offenses to the Vaishnavas or to devotees or anyone which directly affects Guru Maharaj. Please, I want to avoid. And also whatever Guru Maharaj is doing in the holy span, I am doing really insignificant thing. So whatever little bit I do that must be somewhat pleasing, somewhat useful to Guru Maharaj. Whatever I do, so Guru Maharaj benefit by that.

So that blessing we need from him. If he gives that blessing in my life, I understand that my approach. Nothing will work unless Guru approach Guru.

Sanctions, we are nowhere.

If he desires, things automatically happen. If he wants things automatically happens. It is up to him to.

Decide what he wants.

And if we are his instruments, means we are fortunate.

We are his instruments in his hand.

We are becoming instruments in his hand means we are forced. And what he wants, I am trying to.

I want to do what he wants from his disciples. I want to do what he wants.

So that at least little bit I.

Am doing according to his instructions, I.

May not be doing. He taught so many instructions to his.

Disciples in his lectures, but I may.

Not be doing everything. But whatever little bit I do, I should be somewhat pleasing to him so.

That he will be little pleased with our service, my service. And I need all the time, all the time his blessings so that I.

Will not commit offenses I will not do against his heart, his mind. I should not act against his will.

This is what I want to do.

So I see that Guru Maharaj, whatever qualities he has, at least like Guru Maharaj, sees everything very positively. So because the negativity, we eat out our life actually. So that kind of positivity we have to develop. I mean, so many good qualities Guru Maharaj has that we have to observe how he is doing. And also we have to see in our life how we are doing it and exemplify ourselves within our society, how Guruma is practically how he is dealing with each and everyone. Like that we should not make others to feel that devotees are like this. That caring should be given to everyone within ISKCON also and outside also. That caring will make everyone love each other. Actually, so. So that is there in Guru Maharaj, which is very, very important. And one thing is that as Prabhu said, we should not hurt any Vaishnavas. That's the main important thing. Because everybody to come to the Ka consciousness is very very difficult. After long long time we are coming here. If we are missing out the association of devotees, we are losing everything. So that Vaishnava Apara we should only by Guru Mah's mercy we can avoid like how he was. That serving attitude should be there towards everyone. So that I want to develop and also I want to realize whatever is there in the scriptures. That I want to realize and develop that love towards Chaitanya, Mahaprabhu and Guru and Krishna.

Thank you very much.

Thank youk Mothari.

Thank youk Matavi.