Live with Restream, January 24

Jayapataka Swami and three speakers discuss the Kardama Muni story from the Srimad-Bhagavatam to explore material versus spiritual sexuality and Krishna's loving relationships. They emphasize daily practice: chanting 16 rounds of Hare Krishna, Gayatri mantra, Tulsi puja, and reading Prabhupada's books as the path to spiritual qualification. The session closes with pastoral guidance for someone seeking atonement through devotional service.
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Okay, we continue.
Toenails, Jason.
Okay.
Toenails appear just like pearls. And as she scratched the ground, it appeared as if pearls had been thrown on the ground. When a woman scratches the ground with her foot, it's a sign of. It's a sign that her mind is very disturbed. These signs were sometimes exhibited by the Gopis before Krishna. When the Gopis came in the dead of night and Krishna asked them to return to their homes, the Gopis also scratched the ground like this because their minds were very disturbed.
Days are done. Sheikhana darisha shohaju. No gull. Ssri krishna.
Krishna saitana. Real.
That's it.
So this verse is. And the Prabhat is having a very important aspect of Krishna consciousness.
So in this verse in the Purport Srila Prabhupda is explaining a very important aspect aspect of Krishna consciousness.
This all happened on higher planets.
And assuming that all these things happened in higher planet, in say Satya Yuga.
Their lifespan cannot even be imagined by us. As a Brahmachari. He was meditating for 10,000 or so years.
And then he decided before he took Sannyas.
He decided that before he took Sannyas he would be a Grihasta.
Remember?
Then approached him with his daughter and he said, if you desire, you may take my daughter.
He didn't say if you desire.
You know, he knew, I'm sorry.
So I like this. I don't know how many years.
So Cardamom Muni as a grasta in the first phase, he was very austere.
Yes. His wife Piloti, she was also very serving and very diligently, very austerely.
His Sahadharmani Devahuti was also serving him. Was serving him very diligently and also very austerely.
Now our Karma Muni was not an arn. He was all thinking about strange personality.
Kardama Muni was not an ordinary Yogi. He was always thinking about the supreme personality of Godhead.
Time to experience his house to life. He had his wife bathed and cleaned and everything.
So when he wanted to enjoy Grihasta life, he had his wife bathed and cleaned by some maids from the higher planets in the Bindu Sarovara lake. And so that she could be brought to her proper beauty.
Created a iron castle with all kind of amenities for material sands.
Cardamomi created a flying castle with all kinds of facilities for material sense gratification.
And so has stated that he flew all over the universe and enjoyed with his wife for many years.
So it is stated that he flew all over the universe and enjoyed with his wife for many years.
Brahma, His wife had many types of desires. Sexual desires.
He extended himself nine forms.
So he expanded himself into nine forms.
Had sexual relation with rape and was impregnated with a sperm.
So each form had a sexual relationship with her and she was impregnated with a sperm. So it is said that Devahuti conceived nine children.
But she was only pregnant for one a day or so.
But she was pregnant only for one day or so.
And after one day all the children were born. But they were all girls.
So she wasn't getting. Her husband is now going to take sannyas.
So she was in great anxiety that my husband is now going to take sannyas.
Now if they're given in marriage, then they will all go to their prospective homes. Now, for a woman, it is the custom that her father takes care of her or her husband takes care of her. Or when she's older, her elder son takes care of her.
She had no son, So she is in anxiety. We cannot imitate Kardama Muni and Devahuti.
Foreign.
We are people. People of the age of Kali. When we get pregnant, our pregnancy remains for nine to 10 months. We do not become pregnant for one day like Devahuti.
We do not make a flying castle like Rovuni.
We cannot make a flying castle like Kardama Muni.
We cannot. The things that he did.
We cannot do the things that he did.
So what can we learn from this?
So what can we learn from this?
We must think of Krishna all the times. That is one lesson here.
Sex life. How is that in the material world? Sex life.
In the material world there is sex life.
How's that?
How is that?
How is this made possible?
There's also sex life in the spiritual.
World also there is sex life.
But it's not material.
But it is not material. It is completely spiritual.
Like in the material world, some people enjoy.
In the material world, some people enjoy the sex life. But the pleasure is only momentary.
Then one has to the desires increase and they need some more sex.
Then by that gradually the desire increases and they need some more sex.
J basana. Basana. But then that happiness only is there for momentarily and then it is gone on Sunday though.
And they are stronger by having being in the Grihasta Ashram.
Some people, they may be stronger by being in the Grihasta ashram. We should always fight with Maya to be Krishna conscious.
Takaram.
The attraction of Krishna and what ladies. All these queens.
Permanent in the Spiritual world, the sex life between Krishna and the Gopis or the queens of Dwarka, it is not temporary, it is permanent.
Always they love Krishna. And different times, All this is not just come and go continuously.
The Gopis, when they love Krishna, it is a constant ecstasy. It is not something which comes and goes.
J Bhago bhav J Anando jinwai anamdo ta onawar.
Okay.
We have heard how the Gopis, they're cursing the creator Brahma that he doesn't know how to create because he has created the sense of blinking of the eyes. They love Krishna so much that even the blinking of the eyes is a disturbance for them because they're drinking the nectar of Krishna's form.
You know, they want. So there's always a sense of creation. What the difference is that in the material world one wants to enjoy his own senses or her own senses.
So there is sense gratification. But in the material world, the difference is that they want their own sense gratification.
No. Wonder what I own a pleasure that's all lust.
When we want our own pleasure, that won't last.
That's all lust.
That is called lust.
Always they want Krishnas, they want Krishna to be happy.
The Gopis, they want Krishna to be happy.
Or maybe they want to hug Krishna, kiss Krishna, dances Krishna at that time.
They may want to hug Krishna, kiss Krishna, dance with Krishna. It is for K. Krishna's pleasure.
Rather than. He says that even if Krishna wants someone else, I will go and serve her.
So I mean, it's very difficult to understand. We can't understand. That's why Prabhupada said that how you can discuss these things because material.
It is very difficult to understand these things. That's why Srila Prabhupada said, we cannot discuss these things. We cannot understand these things because people will take it as material.
Apparently, one rehearsal.
So one Grihasta couple, they brought the 10th. They brought. They brought the 10th canto of Srimad Bhagavatam to Srila Prabhupada and said, please talk to us about Radha and Krishna.
He said, you are not qualified.
He said, you are not qualified. They said, no, no, we are qualified. Prabhupada said, well, I am not qualified.
Because we have started reflection in material.
World because we have distorted reflection in the material world.
If one does not practice the sadhana aspects of devotional service and gradually he advances in devotional service, he will not understand anything. Therefore, only discussed this confidential matter with only a few of his very, very Intimate associates and he never discussed these matters in public with. Because the common people, they will misunderstand this subject matter and they will simply think about their material experiences of this lusty affairs.
We have been discussing Shanta Sakya, Vatsalya, Shanta Dasia, Sakya Vatsalya in the evening classes.
Constantly thinking, thinking and serving and playing and doing things with Krishna.
All these devotees are constantly thinking, singing, playing and all these things with Krishna. Soon we will be discussing the Madhuriya Rasa.
What are the reasons? A fixed relationship, the different transitory.
What is the inspiration? The fixed relationships, the different transitory emotions.
But actually reach standard. One draw and further advance.
So to reach this stage we need to chant, purify ourselves, chant the Gayatri Mantra and reach that stage.
Service. We have to.
We have to not only chant but we have to render service. We have to read Srila Prabhupada's books especially Srimad Bhagavad Gita, Srimad Bhagavatam and Sri Chaitanya Charitah.
I saw that Prabhupada reading the Harvard Villas talks about the 18 syllable Krishna mantra, how great it is.
I was reading the Haribhakti Villas where it says that the 18th syllable Krishna mantra, how great it is.
All this takes on detached from the hotel world and take you to the spiritual world.
How it helps one to be detached from the material world and takes one to the spiritual world.
And so I saw that 18th mantra second and last.
I saw that this 18 syllable mantra is the sixth mantra or second to last mantra in the set of Gayatri Mantra. And the last mantra is the Kama Gayatri.
On 24 and a half.
That has 24 and a half syllables. And that is called the mantra form of Krishna.
So if we are not purified enough, we cannot utter, we cannot chant this guy three mantra. So therefore we vow to the spiritual master that we shall at least chant the Hare Krishna. Hare Krishna. Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare. This mantra we will chant at least 16 rounds times 108.
And all the ill effects, all yoga are destroyed by this Hare Krishna mantra.
By chanting this Hare Ka Mantra all the ill effects of Kali Yuga are destroyed.
In the spiritual world.
In the spiritual world there is Haridam Goloka. That's surrounded by the Brahma Jyoti.
So the enemies are Krishna killed by Krishna.
So the enemies of Krishna who are killed by Krishna the Mayavadis they go to the Brahma Jyoti. It says one if one worships Narayan or Sriram, they go to Haridam.
And all the.
So there is the Gayatri mantras for Lord Ram, for Lord Varaha, for the Shinga, for So by chanting of these mantras one will attain the Haridham.
Not necessarily any mantras, but there are mantras. Maha Mantra.
But these mantras are not Gayatri mantras. Like for example Narasimha Mantra is a Maha Mantra.
I don't know where the devotees want to go to.
I don't know where the devotees will go to, where they want to go to. I don't know where the devotees want to go to.
World is all that I want to have peace. Shanti don't have any. They might end up in the Roman.
Jojo if they feel that the material world, okay, I'm so distressed and I want some relief from this distress. And then they may. Then if they don't have a relationship with Krishna then they may go to the Brahma Jyoti.
But if there is a relationship of service either with some avatar of the Lord or just service attitude then they may end up in the or they may attain the Haridham.
And they're doing all thing about Krishna. They go to Krishna.
But if they chant the Hare Krishna Maha Mantra, they chant the Gayatri Mantra and they've been thinking about Krishna then they can go to Krishna Loka.
When I start with Sadhana Bhakti, we stay in the Sadhana Bhakti but our consciousness gradually elevates.
We start with Sadhana Bhakti, we stay in Sadhana Bhakti but our consciousness gradually elevates.
We have to be patient, we have to be committed, we have to be very sincere.
We have to be patient, we have to be committed and we have to be very sincere.
In this way, devotional service or Bhakti Yoga is a gradual process.
So here are you are all Yalis. Practice your Ka consciousness.
So you're all yogis. You're all yoginis. So you should be very careful to practice your Krishna consciousness.
Many things are revealed in the scriptures. So we should take advantage and study them and understand all the greatness of Krishna.
Many things are revealed in the scriptures. Therefore we should study them, take advantage of them to understand about Krishna.
Like this Krishna consciousness and everybody Lord Chaitanya made it very easy.
Like this Krishna consciousness is meant for everybody and Lord Chaitanya has made it very easy.
The lifespan of devotee and Kardamuni was very very long.
We have a very short life, his life fully committed to practice Bhakti Yoga.
We have a very short life. And this. And in this life we should be fully committed to practice Bhakti Yoga.
And this. Her life. We go back to Krishna lots of. And we practice sincerely.
So in this. In this one life we can go back to Krishna if we practice very sincerely.
The time is up anyway.
Now the time is up. I heard there is a question. A question, Guru Maharaj. In this section of Shrimad Bhagavatam we are studying about the conception of Devahuti. I want to confess that some years ago my husband asked me to abort the baby after had conceived. I had. I feel very guilty about it. And I want to know what is to be done under these kind of circumstances. When there is pressure to do something wrong and will you forgive me? I promise not to do it again.
Latana kacha shikar kotu amar sami doshe amrash ami garbhan.
This is a very great sin. This shouldn't be done.
Never.
Never.
Hold on. What did I say?
What can I say?
You've done it.
You have done it.
In the demigods terrorized in Iranian Hashim to kill her. Ready.
Even the dead demigods were arresting the wife of Hiranya Kashipu to kill her baby.
In the womb.
But they won't kill the baby in the womb. They wait for the baby to be born and then to kill him.
Of course, the sun, he is only a devotee. He is a great devotee.
Narada Muni said the son. Don't worry about the son. The son is going to be a devotee. He is going to be a great devotee.
They didn't want to abort the child. They want to wait for the child reborn.
That shows that even the demigods they did not want to abort the child. They wanted to wait for the child to be born. I can forgive you. But what can I do? I'm not sanctioning it.
There's no better process of. Service.
And you should pray to Krishna. Because there's no better process of atonement than devotional service. So do your devotional service. Pray to Krishna. Do Tulsi Puja and other things. So like this, by Krishna's mercy you may be forgiven.
I don't know why your husband asked that. Why did put pressure on you?
I don't know why your husband asked you to do that. Why he put pressure on you. People become grihastas to have children.
Should the husband want to kill a baby?
So why should the husband want to kill a baby.
You know, maybe the government scientists, they say life runs after a certain time. But we don't know. That is unreal.
Maybe the scientists, they say that the. The life comes after a certain time. But from the moment the, the embryo, the conception is there, life is there.
So.
Anyway, now it is very late. I have to end here. Hare Krishna.
Swami maharaj kijai, guru maharaj kijai jaijai jagab gurus, his divine grace shila krishna kapasima swami prabhupada the kijai samaribo.
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