Third Stream —Analysis of śānta-rasa

Hare Krishna. Dear devotees, today we will. Today we will continue with the Chaitanya Shikshamrita Bharashla Sachidan and the Bhakti Vinod Thakur Shaptam Bristi Ras Bichar. Yeah, this is another subtopic below the philosophy. Now we are discussing about Santaras analysis of mellows Trithiya Dhara Shantarash Bichar third stream analysis of Shantarash Shama neutrality. The object of worship is not Nirvi Sesha undistinguishable, but rather Savishesha personal. Such firm intelligence in relation to truth of Bhagavan is called Shama. When Shama is firmly seated in the heart of a devotee and such a devotee develops rati. That rati is referred to as Shanti Rati neutrality.

Oh, someone was yesterday asking what is Santa Ras?

Someone was yesterday asking what is Santa Ras?

Now this Bhakti Natagar is explaining in detail about the Shantarash.

Now in this Bhakti Nataka he's explaining in detail about Shantarash.

Now one thing to understand, as he said, it's personal, but it's not my Lord, it's not impersonal.

One thing we understand, it is personal. It's not Mayavati, it's not impersonal.

And someone in Sansaras appreciates qualities of Ka.

Someone in Shantaras appreciates the qualities of Krishna. Krishna's expansions.

So Nirvi Shash the impersonalist as a different thing.

Nirvi Shesh impersonalist. That's a different thing.

Shantarasa is a personal thing.

Shantarasha is a personal thing.

The qualities of Krishna and his expansions.

You appreciate the qualities of Krishna and his expansion. And.

But that doesn't translate into service. It's just appreciation.

It doesn't translate into service. It's just appreciation.

Or love.

Or love.

So. Yeah, like very impressed by these. These qualities.

Yeah, they are very impressed by his qualities. Enamored.

Nice.

Okay. Shanta Jiva Ashanta Jiva is the shelter of Shantarati Savishesha Bhagavan personal God is the object of that Rati. The Shanta Jiva is devoid of materialistic intelligence. In the science of God Bhagavata Tattva Yoga for the attainment of transcendental bliss is the defining characteristic or sign Linga of his worship. By renouncing attachment to material objects, he becomes established in his own transcendental bliss. Thus Krishna being perceived in relation to him as either the Paramatma or Savisesha Brahman becomes the object of his Ratti. There is no Ratti in impersonal Brahman contemplation. Nirvi Sesha, Brahmachinta. Even the Brahman realized by one who has developed Rati utpannarati Purusha is also almost with personal characteristics Savisesha pray. However, there remains some uncertainty regarding the eternal distinctive nature of Brahman. Thus, at times the four armed form Chaturbhuja Swaroopa manifests in his consciousness. At other times the majestic form of Krishna imbued with opulence. Aishwarya, Gata, Krishna, Swarupa. Am I audible? Okay, Swarupa. And at yet other moments the spiritual form of the Paramatma, Paramatma Surupa arises in his mind. The sages such as Sanaka, Sanatana, Sananda, Sanat, Kumara are the ideals for such devotees. So.

The four Kumars, they were in the Brahman realization.

So the four Kumaras, they were in the Brahman realization.

But they got converted to the Lord is. And they. So they are examples how they hold so.

But they got converted into devotees and they are the examples that we hold.

Is. I mean, Write this.

Here. It gives varieties of Shanta Jivas.

People in the Shantaras.

People in the Shantaras.

Some see the four handed form. Some see Krishna.

Some see the Paramatma. Some see the four handed form. Some see Krishna's form. Krishna farm in Aishwarya in opulence. In opulence.

Not like he had 16,108 queens.

Something like he has 16,108 queens. Indwaraka.

Also like, you know, the south.

You know, like some very opulent form of Krishna.

Saltas doesn't fiddle and the Sandra have some worshipful deity.

So like this different people in Shantarasa they have worship. They are worshipable deity. Bhakti, Rasamu, Western division, first wave. Sounds English. You want me to read the verse?

Okay.

Sanaka, Sananda, Mukha, Matah, Pradhanya, Sanaka, Sanaka, Dinam, Rupam, Bhaktista, Katyate. The sages headed by Sanaka and Sananda are considered Atma Ramas. Because Sanaka and the other Kumaras are the main Atmarama, Shanta, Bhaktas. They are forms and their Bhakti will now be described Verses four. Okay. They are forms. The four Kumaras look like children five or six years old. They are effulgent, golden in complexion and naked. They wander about together. Srila Prabhupada's translation of the above mentioned verses the four saintly persons known as Chatusana are the sons of Lord Brahma. After their birth, when they were ordered by their father to become householders and increase human society, they refused the order. They said that they had already decided not to become entangled with family life, they would rather live as saintly Brahmacharis for their own perfection. So these great saints have been living for millions of years now. But still they appear to be just like boys of four or five years. Their complexions are very fair, there is an effulgence in their bodies, and they always travel naked. These four saintly persons almost always remain together. Continuation they are Bhakti. Goswami is describing the Bhakti of the Folkumaras. Oh Mukunda, we were absorbed in the indescribable happiness we felt in our minds which are untouched by the modes of nature, and we turned away from the external senses until we attained the astonishing and immensely blissful realization of you whose radiance is deep blue like a young Tamil tree. Srila Prabhupada's translation of the above mentioned verse in one of the prayers of the Kumara brothers, this declaration is made. O Lord Mukunda Krishna, the giver of Liberation. Only so long as one does not happen to see your eternal form of bliss and knowledge appearing just like a newly grown Tamil tree with bluish hue. Only for so long can the impersonal feature of the absolute truth known as Brahman will very pleasing will be very pleasing to saintly person.

They were not in contact with the material nature, you see.

They are very happy, very blissful. They are not in contact with the material nature.

They were having the realization of the Brahma Jyoti.

They were having the realization of the Brahma Jyoti.

But when I realized Krishna and the Tulsi, all the tours, all his feet.

When they realized Krishna and the Tulsi offered to his lotus feet. When they saw the Narayan form of.

Krishna Vishnu, then they realized that this is a much higher bliss.

Then they realized that this is much a higher bliss.

And that began the Lord resulted and.

They became devotees after that.

So as long as you don't realize Krishna and they think that personal nice.

As long as you don't realize Krishna, you may think that the impersonal Brahman is nice.

Once you realize Krishna, you don't care about the impersonal Brahman.

Once you realize Krishna, you don't really care about the impersonal Brahman. Next. Next. When will I live in a mountain valley under A large tree, wearing only a loincloth and taking pleasure in eating simple roots and fruits quickly pass my days and nights in meditating on the effulgent form of knowledge and bliss called Mukunda. Srila Prabhupada's translation of the above mentioned verse from Bhakti Rasamruta Sindhu. A saintly person thinks like this. When shall I be able to live alone in the caves of the mountains? When shall I be dressed simply with undergarments? When shall I be satisfied by eating simply a little fruit and vegetables? When will it be possible for me to think always of the lotus feed of Mukunda who is the source of the Brahman effulgence. When in such a spiritual condition of life I shall I fully understand my days and nights to be insignificant moments in eternal time.

One of the fasts in the Vishnu Panchak is fruits and roots.

One of the fasts in the Bhishma Panchak is fruits and roots.

The silent version, just eating roots and roots.

You are the saintly person praying when will I be happy when I fast with fruits and roots.

So those who have done Bhishma Brah a day that have experienced fruits and.

Roots, those who have done Bhishma Panchak, they have experienced fruits and roots at.

Least for five days.

At least for five days. Well, it's blissful in your association, Guru Maharaj. It's blissful in your association when you observe Bhishma Pancha.

So someone is praying that they want to be able to exist like that their whole life.

So someone is praying that they want to be like that throughout their life.

That's. So you're gonna experience it for five days.

So that you're gonna experience in five days.

Not everyone.

Not everyone.

So Prabhupada was very merciful.

So Prabhupada was very merciful.

He even like Goddess soundly dull.

So even on Ekadashi some people they fasting. They'll fast. What did you say?

And stay awake all night.

And stay awake the whole night.

What? Prabhupada said do the grains cereals or pulse.

Prabhupada said do the non grain cereals.

Or pulse which is the minimum.

Which is the minimum.

So Prabhupada was very merciful with us.

So Prabhupada was very merciful with us.

I mean some people, I think for some time he was observing the holy sees.

So I think some people like Tamal Krishna, Goswami, he was observing the Ekadashi fully.

But Shaniya, this Is a standard that one wants to live a simple life and chant Hare Krishna.

So anyway, this is a standard that one should live a simple life and chant Hare Krishna.

I'm always saying Allah.

Always think of Mukunda or Krishna rather.

Who is the source of the impersonal Brahman?

Who is the source of the impersonal Brahman?

Who? Source of the material world.

Who is the source of the material world.

Source of the spiritual world.

Source of the spiritual world.

Source of everything.

Source of everything.

Solemn. Now one thinks like we are. We are out of body. We have. We are the soul.

So if one thinks we are the soul and we have a body, Krishna.

Is not like that.

But Krishna is not like that.

His body and soul not different.

His body, his soul non different.

Transcendental.

So he's completely transcendental.

Okay.

Okay.

So I mean, how? Question, answer.

So we'll have question and answer for.

Five minutes or late? A little late today because we were talking to our Singapore doctor.

So we got a little late today because we were talking to a Singapore doctor.

He said I have to go on a such treatment for two weeks.

So he has. He said that I don't have to go for a treatment for two weeks.

I have to.

Oh, you have to go. Okay.

On a special treatment.

On a special treatment for two weeks.

I can do it here.

But I can do it here. That's great. That's wonderful. I don't have to go to Singapore then. Okay.

My dinner is two weeks. I'll be restricted.

But during these two weeks I'll be restricted.

I'll tell you about that later.

I will tell you about that later.

Any questions on today's class?

There's one question. Shila Guru Maharaj, Hare Krishna. Guru Maharaj, thank you very much for a wonderful class question. Can devotees move from one rasa to another rasa after achieving one rasa? Also, which rasa should we aim for? Premalila Padma Devi Dasi. It includes Shantarasa, right? So Dasia Rasa, it includes this Santa Rasa.

And each rasa includes all the previous races.

And each rasa includes all the previous rasas.

Like the sakura friendship includes dasha and Santa.

Like the Sakurasa friendship include Dasia and Santa.

Of course, one time and doesn't have the same. It loves Krishna. It appreciates Krishna. But it does understand or think it very important that he is the supreme personality.

One kind of Sakira says that he loves Krishna. He appreciates Krishna, but he doesn't understand that Krishna is the Lord, is the supreme personality of Godhood and somebody.

I think this is my child.

Similarly, in parental Rasa, they think that Krishna is my child.

And conjugal love, I think Krishna is my lover.

In conjugal love, Krishna, they think that Krishna is my lover, my husband.

So. In that relationship, I mean, I don't really think of Krishna as the supreme personality.

In that relationship, they really don't think Krishna as the supreme personality of Godhead. They just want to relate with Krishna.

So not that we aim one Rasa.

It's not that we aim one Rasa.

It'S revealed to us what our Rasa is with Krishna.

So it will be revealed to us what our Rasa is with Krishna. Guru Maharaj, the question was, is it can we move from one Rasa to another Rasa? That was the question.

The thing is. What? Your actual Raja may move from one to another, but you don't really. When you reach your roster, when you.

Say that, you move from one to another. But when you reach your rasa, your particular Rasa, you then you just stay there. It's 8:30 now. Time for dinner. Okay, Hare Krishna. Okay, I'll update them. He's recovering, right?

Oh no, he. He was moved from the ICU to the HCU.

So he was moved from the ICU to the HCu.

HCU means. ICU is Intensive Care. HCU is High Care.

Okay. ICU is Intensive care. HCU is High Care.

So he is next to the ICU.

So he's next to the ICU.

Now he's conscious, he talks.

Now he's conscious. He talks.

He still eats through his nose. I have to offer him Prashad Ramantra every day.

So he still eats through his nose. And they have to offer prasad through mantra every day.

And he's just recovering.

He's just recovering.

But we'd like to pray for him.

So we'd like to pray for him.

And we offer our mantras.

So we offer our mantras for his benefit. We'll offer it to him. We'll offer it for his praise. Brajeshwar. God's recovery.

Sri Krishna Chaitan.

Sri Krishna Chaitanyananda. Okay, Guru Maharaj's physical book table is here. Please donate some books for Guru Maharaj's scores and assist him in his service to Srila Prabhupada. Also Gurumas is blessing all of you. Krishna Matirastu, raise your hands. Who wants blessings? Krishna Matirastu, Hari Krishna Matirastu. And also tomorrow. Tomorrow we'll be not speaking from Chaitanya Siksha Matra. There'll be some devotees from Orissa coming over. So we'll be addressing the Oris and devotees. Tomorrow the class will be in Odiya. And somebody will translate that.

Okay?

Kichu. Kichuk.