This is a YouTube interview (Ben Greenfield with a guest) discussing health risks from non-bioidentical (synthetic) steroids and other foreign molecules, claims about excitotoxins like Red 40, and liver detoxification capacity. The speakers argue the body "attacks" unfamiliar molecules, link non-bioidentical steroids (and methylated testosterone) to cancer and autoimmune risk, and promote bioidentical hormones as safer with many supportive studies. They reference Cyrex lab leaky-gut tests, nutrient needs for liver conjugation (zinc, glutathione, B vitamins), and mention public figure Liver King/Brian Johnson in the context of high-dose hormone use and potential harms.
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Your body's designed in a way where it should consume things, that it understands what it is. And I'll give you an example. Red Gatorade. Well, that red 40 inside the Gatorade. We know now today that it's connected with anxiety, it's connected with depression, it's connected with cancers as well. They're all in the family of excitotoxins. So if you start looking at different families, Non bioidentical steroids, you shouldn't be taking those.
The steroids. It's not the problem. It's a steroids. What is the problem?
So here is the issue and the person and all these fitness guys, etc. Okay? And honestly, take the. I, I think this is really good advice. You know the. When you're using something that your body does not produce. Here's a little principle I live by for my own health and that of my family. Your body will attack whatever. It does not know what it is. And why don't we do a lot of inflammation studies here? I love this laboratory called Cyrex. Cyrex.com. yeah.
I use that with a lot of my clients for environmental exposure of toxins and molds and also for like gold standard food allergy. Absolutely amazing.
You know, they're the first ones in the market to do, in the United States to do the leaky gut test. They were the first ones.
Oh, wow.
I have a podcast with a medical director and he's telling me about it.
Yeah, they're a great company.
Oh, yeah. So when you're doing that, like leaky gut, all these things, I mean, except Tylenol, ibuprofen, these things, your body doesn't know what it is. It can attack it. Now, when you come in with a molecule that looks like.
Testosterone, but it's not testosterone. Right. Or women for postmenopausal women were like primarin, which stands for pregnant mare urine. So it's estrogen replacement, but it's. No, it's estrogen from horses. Yeah, right. So the principle from steroids to, you know, legally or illegally prescribed or whatever, Whatever, whatever. When you're putting these things into your body, your body then can attack it. And that's what causes the cancers and autoimmunity and yada, yada, yada, and the leaky guts and all that stuff. And I'm really not for that. And that, that. And also, you age a lot quicker with that stuff.
Okay, quick question. If there's a doctor watching, would they be laughing if you said if. If it's foreign, your body will Attack it. Because they think that's like woo woo science or is there an actual like, are we talking about like a distinct white blood cell reaction and inflammatory response to a steroid the body may not recog make on its own? No.
Well, first of all, I think there's a dot. There is going to be a doctor laughing at one point or another because.
A lot of people still laugh. We say leaky guts and obviously that's been proven now. But sometimes when you say something like attack the body, that's murky. What's that mean?
So okay, I'll put it in terms that I learned in medical school when we discussed these topics. They said they would say, oh don't worry, there's immune tolerance. It's so your body can actually tolerate a certain amount of, of.
Toxin or foreign chemical etc. And then there's always the, the whole premise of toxicology. You know, it's in the dose and you know, not too much of it. And you know, now after my years of studying and being exposed to this and you know, mix of traditional with alternative so forth, the, the hoots with that. No, your body's designed in, in a way where it should consume things that it understands what it is free. And I'll give you an example.
Gatorade, Red Gatorade. Well, that red 40 inside the Gatorade. We know now today that it's connected with anxiety, it's connected with depression, it's connected with cancers as well. They're all in the family of excitotoxins. So if you start looking at different families. Non bioidentical steroids, so non. Not vitamin D, not progesterone, not. But stinazole, Alexandrilone and, and all these other guys, right. And the, the Primobolans and all these things. You start looking at those families of things. You shouldn't be taking those. You shouldn't be. You should decrease the amount of chemical burden and foreign molecules in your body, period. I mean that's, that's the philosophy even in our veggies.
And it's part of that because it's difficult on the liver to push all of the synthetic compounds from a steroid protocol like that through the detoxification pathways.
Well, that's one of them. So, so as your body, so, so your body detoxifies, I believe 60% the liver and then 20 through the kidney and then another 20 through different pathways. Right. And then the conjugation pathways, etc, like the, the first pathways of the liver, they're highly dependent on zinc and Glutathione and B complex and so forth. So many times we're already deficient in that stuff. Right. You throw some leaky gut in there, and then you can't absorb those vitamins and minerals and so forth. And then you don't have the glutathione that I believe your body produces about like 12 or 14, 000 milligrams a day in average. Right. You don't have that stuff. And then all of a sudden, that chemical burden starts to increase and starts to increase and starts to increase. And then. And there you go. And then there's some leaky gut, and then there's. And then. And you can start to have neurotransmitter imbalances, too, and so on and so forth. And then all of a sudden, you have a human that's starting to get unbalanced, and then to ultimately forms. Dis. Ease. It's out of ease, you know.
So it sounds like this is multimodal.
Yes.
In terms of the liver king, Brian Johnson, he would have things like potential for neurotransmitter deficiencies, potential for impaired liver detoxification pathways, potential for an autoimmune reaction, and basically the type of things that you would experience if the body was frequently bombarded with the foreign compound that it had to metabolize.
Yeah. I mean, and I mean, I don't know the guy, but to be that size and to be that level of leanness, etc. Here's the thing. Then I ask, what are the doses? Because the doses, I heard something like 11,000 bucks in growth hormone a month, man, that's like, I don't care how expensive you're getting that stuff. You really got to consume a lot of that. That's all.
I thought Colostrum was expensive. Here I. Here I am, and I own a company that sells Colostrum, and I'm still, like, taking a. I take a scoop in the morning and scoop in the evenings, because at the back of my mind, I'm like, this stuff's expensive. Gotta be careful. Don't want to drag my company down. So.
So Colostrum's awesome, by the way.
Oh. Oh, my goodness. People have IgA deficiencies and nutty Umami. Your gut feels great. I don't want to turn a commercial for Colostrum, but it's amazing. I like Colost. Okay, so. And by the way, you don't know Brian Johnson. I do. He's a friend of mine. He's featured in my parenting book. He's an amazing Father and husband and businessman who definitely effed up in terms of his honesty. But he is.
I don't think at his heart he's a bad person. No, no, he got stuck in a lie that was very difficult for him to wiggle out of. And so it is what it is. Now he's suffering the consequences. Anything beyond the steroids that you think were problematic or that people should be aware of to avoid that might pop up in this industry as being recommended to them if they want to get swole bro or lose body fat or something like that, or the steroids.
The main thing I, I mean, I don't, like I said I don't know much about the, the ca. And I'm, I'm going off of some like, literally I went like, I mean, I, I don't care too much for these things. You know, I wouldn't even be talking about this if it wasn't important to a lot of people that live in that social media. Like, oh my God, these people look in a certain way and it's like, I really want to help these people because I was once a chubby kid too, you know, well, years ago. But it's like, okay, how do I get like that? And so I, I did literally, I scroll this like 30 second scroll and then going off the top of my head, what I can remember. But I think, you know, just moving away from the liver king. But overall, people that look a certain way and then promote products that they're not, they're not the main variables getting you there, right? Yeah. Maybe a supplements got them 10 there, if that or 5%, I don't know. But you know, when there's stronger substances there, you got to be careful. And then even for your personal health, and I understand, I talk to a lot of people, you know, that are in different kinds of, you know, even bodybuilding and so forth. And it's like, hey man, you don't really understand the harm this stuff does to you, right?
Yeah.
You know, and then there's a confusion. Testosterone and a synthetic, a methylated testosterone. Does the methylated one cause cancer? Absolutely. That's really, really, really bad. But if you go to Google Scholar, I think there's around over 3, 000 articles showing how bioidentical hormones, not only they do not.
Cause cancer, but they can actually help with many disease states.
Yeah.
You know, and that's the whole difference. But it's such a, a fine line because you say, is testosterone a steroid? Is vitamin D? Is there like we just said, yes, but how about the others? These are the distinguishing factor. And people say, oh, it's because they're synthetic. No, synthetic just means it's made in a laboratory, right? No, what, what. What we're talking about is, is it bio identical or is it non bio? Okay, that's really the distinguishing factor.
Okay, so it's not the synthetic nature. It's. It's. It's the biocompatibility with the body.
