The Story Of One Physician's Inspiring Faith And The Healing Power Of Prayer, With Dr. Issam Nemeh.

Welcome to the show. I am here at the home of Dr. Esam Nimey. I just left his clinic where we spent, what, about 45 minutes to an hour or so. Doctor.

Going through a series of very unique treatments. Electroacupuncture and vibration and pulse electromagnetic field therapy. And a wonderful conversation during. And I wasn't quite sure what to expect when I dropped in to see you, but it was quite a unique experience. And then we went over to your house to record today's show.

Your wife Kathy told me that she wanted us to have some lunch before we recorded. And, of course, I never turned down food, so I said yes and walked in, and we've got this spread of like a dozen different Syrian delicacies and desserts and, you know, wonderful foods, many of which I'd never even seen before. But I just had an amazing meal. My apologies to all of our listeners if I dropped into a food coma while we're chatting. And then your daughter, Ashley, I didn't realize you had such a talented family. She sang us a beautiful song before dinner and played us some of her music on that's on Spotify after dinner. And. And so I thought, as an interesting way to begin today's show, that I'd finagle Ashley into singing us in just because she has the voice of an angel. And, you guys, I'd be remiss not to share with you her voice that I was so blessed to have just heard. So, Ashley, would you like to choose a song of yours and sing us all into today's show.

Just to set the mood?

That would be wonderful.

Take it away. There's microphones everywhere, so I would imagine with your voice, it will pick up no matter what you do.

Thank you.

Amazing grace.

How sweet the sound.

That.

Save.

A wretch like me.

I once was lost.

But now I am found.

Was blind.

But now.

I see.

Amazing. Beautiful.

Beautiful.

Dr. Nim. Where'd she get that from? She get that from you?

I think so.

Yeah.

Yes.

Yeah. When did you first realize that your daughter could sing like that?

Oh, she. Since she was a very tiny kid.

Yeah.

It was amazing, actually. It was miraculous.

Miraculous.

Miraculous. And since she was about six months.

Six months old.

Yes. We had an encounter. Supernatural encounter. That's why we knew she had a voice. You know what happened? It was. It was a vision, actually.

And she was a baby. Small, tiny baby.

And.

Mary came.

Mother Mary. Yes. And she was singing with her at that age.

Wow.

So we knew early on that she has that gift.

Amazing.

Yes.

Wow.

Wow.

And you Also, I suppose this might be a good place for us to start. Feel as though.

You were given a gift as well, from an early age.

My story is different.

I cannot call it a gift.

I call it a belonging. Because it's a state of mind that binds you actually to our Lord. And the laws that apply are different from the natural laws here. So it's a nature, it's not a gift. That's how I call it, belonging to the Lord. It started very early in life. I mean, I can recall even the birth and who was there.

You can recall your own birth?

I can recall.

Do you mean like in vivid detail or.

In vivid details? Even with the names and who delivered me and everything and every day, that's not common. I mean, I'm sure you're aware I've encountered a couple over the years that they could recall some, you know, some memories, you know. But here it was in detail and I had the encounter. Actually, I think it's God's will in it in order for me to be able to share a knowledge that is not available when it comes to our fallen nature, basically to the original sin itself. Because here, once you take your first breath.

You become a separate entity. That's when the ego starts. And I recall that moment, and it's an overwhelming type of experience because it's different.

Consciousness before, it's just an awareness of belonging to God. Basically, we come from him.

And it's so overwhelming for the senses. It drives you, actually sort of pushes you into the physical experience. And this was the moment where I was not happy about it because I suffered separation.

When you were a baby?

When I was born.

What do you mean you suffered separation?

Separation. I felt the separation from God, you know, when this happened. And it was. The scar was so deep. That's when I had the first encounter with the Lord Jesus.

You mean like prior to being born, you feel as though that you were intimately with God and then after being born, you were brought into a space where you felt disconnected from God here on earth?

I felt the separation, yes. And it was scarring. And that's when I had the encounter with the Lord.

He.

Told me, if you want to come back with me, you can. I prefer you to be here, but it's your decision. So I'm guilty of the original sin. And so I decided to. Okay, I'll stay here. And he started disappearing during the process of his disappearance.

You mean the regret or the angst over needing to be on earth now started disappearing?

No, the Lord started.

The Lord started disappearing his voice coming.

To you, the eternal one, started disappearing. So.

The last thing I said, please don't allow me to forget. And his last word was, you will never forget. And I haven't forgotten day since the time of my birth.

What did you ask not to forget?

I didn't want to forget my belonging to him.

Okay, interesting. So you went. I mean, you obviously have a fascinating story. There's an entire book for those of you listening in, which is where I first discovered Islam, called Miracles Every Day, the story of one physician's Inspiring faith and the healing power of prayer. And if you go and look at some of the articles about Dr. Nieme that I'll link to, if you go to BenGreenfieldFitness.com Miracles Everyday. It's fascinating, this whole concept of healing that you do. And I originally had the impression that you were one of these people who just laid your hands on someone and did some kind of a prayer for hands on healing. And when I visited your clinic, I see that you also have all manner of technology, electroacupuncture and PEMF and vibration therapy and all these devices that you use and that you have a background in electrical engineering as well. So walk me through what occurs from this time that you were born, that you felt as though you had been connected with God. You had that calling to God, not to forget that, but then going on into life, did you feel as though you were called to something different? And if so, how did you come to develop?

I had that. Yeah, definitely. I had that feeling and it continued.

By the age of around 14, I was walking down the street in front of a church. I had a vision. Vision actually of what I am doing right today.

Yeah. And it overwhelmed me because it happened when I was outside.

And.

I had a deep type of knowing about what I'm gonna be doing in the future. But I didn't have the details.

So this definitely influenced my decision later on.

Like how not having the details are you talking? Like you knew you were supposed to help people but you didn't know what that looked like.

I knew the general concept of what I am doing, but I didn't know the fine details about, let's say delivering, treating, stuff like that. The concept in general was revealed. And here I started with the electronic engineering. I didn't want to stay there, so I shifted to the medical school and medical school. Medical school. Then I had the interest, a lot of interest when it comes to energy in general medicine and stuff like that. I was very inspired about that stuff.

Yeah.

From early On.

Yeah. You know, I can tell you you're a little bit of a nerd in that department because you're showing me all these devices that you've invented for therapy. We can get into that later on. Artificial intelligence software and all sorts of crazy things I hadn't seen before. But. But you, you got that because originally you were in electrical engineering, or at least that's what you were interested in. You decided to shift in medicine.

Yes, in physics in general.

You know. And.

After medical school, I went into medicine. I was in Germany at the time.

Is that where you went to medical schools in Germany?

No, in Poland. Okay. From Poland, moved to Germany, West Germany at the time. And from Germany I. I had, I had actually a vision before about coming to America at an early age, actually, I knew.

And that was almost like part of the calling that you had was to be in America.

Yeah, definitely. And the way I came here was miraculous too, because they were not giving any visas to any. Any guy was born in Syria at the time.

Yeah, yeah, that's right. We didn't mention that part. But you were born in Syria.

Jewish. Italian.

The origin is Jewish. Italian.

And.

Then when I came here, I did jaw surgery for about three years and they switched to anesthesia and on did open heart. But during all that time I had that interest when it comes to what I am doing today, you know, like let's say measuring patients, you know, checking the electrical resistance and stuff like that.

The Japanese doctor Nagatani started that. I was very interested in that, in that type of.

You mean the very first thing that we did when I visited your clinic today, you actually self quantified and you were measuring. And perhaps later on after you finished telling your story about how you came to do what you do now we can get into what exactly. That was just fascinating.

We started measuring my patients, let's say, before taking them for the open heart, you know, before and after. And they started noticing trends that repeated themselves with every patient, let's say when it comes to the coronary, let's say artery.

Right.

You know, and I expanded that into different.

Systems in the body. Lungs, vascular, neural, stuff like this. And based upon tens of thousands actually of treatments that I've done and following up with my patients, I ended up developing the diagnostic program and it's an artificial intelligence one.

Okay.

Program.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, when, when people write about you and when you're described in this book, Miracles every Day.

I would say that at least I personally got the impression that there was a great deal of. Incorporated into what you do, this idea of prayer and of faith based healing, at what point did that enter the picture and how did you actually kind of have that realization that it was a gift that you had?

That picture has been with me since childhood.

Did you heal people when you were a child?

Yes.

Tell me about that.

We used to see a lot of family members or neighbors, elderly people have taken care of a lot of them at that time. And they used to experience a lot of healings.

You mean they would literally come when you were a child and you would.

Yes, they asked me to come and you know.

And you would pray for them?

Yes, I did.

And could you tell inside of your body as a child when you would. When you would put your hands on these sick people that something was happening?

The connectedness? Yes. Yeah.

How would you describe that to people? What's that feeling like?

Our consciousness.

Is not restricted to our physical body.

Our consciousness is connected to everything around us. Then in here, when you are, when you belong, the original awareness.

Plays a major role when it comes to your perception. So if anything is happening in your body. I perceive it as happening in my body. I mean literally to that.

You mean if I were anxious or stressed right now, you sense that?

I can sense it.

Interesting.

Yes. And even pains. And a lot of people I've dealt with over the years, they lost their speech, they could not talk or communicate. I was able to localize actually their pains.

When someone was being in the same room as you, could you tell even without them speaking to you or talking to you, that something was wrong with them or they were feeling pain in a specific area because you would feel something similar?

Yes, yes, to that degree. And even when I communicate with people over the Internet, I feel the same way. Because there is no space, no time when it comes to our consciousness. It's a non locality.

So is what you're referring to, would it be similar to like a collective consciousness? Like the idea that we're all a member of the same species living on this planet and we're all somehow interconnected via more of like a quantum, like a photonic standpoint than many of us are even aware of or than what might be provable, but that when one person feels or sees or senses something, that someone else who is connected to them in that quantum manner can feel or sense or see the same thing?

Exactly. It's a quantum field.

Does everyone have the ability to be able to tap into that quantum field or do you think that you're special?

Yes. Based upon our origin, every single one of Us is equipped. You know, consciousness is a quantum field.

A field that has all possibilities and probabilities in it. I mean, how many decisions can we make ourselves? Infinite number of decisions. Yeah, so we. Our origin is from the same. The same place. And you know, scientifically speaking, yeah, you could call it belonging to the same quantum field.

So if you knew that you had this gift, that you had this skill when you were young, why didn't you just go straight into medicine? Why did you choose electrical engineering instead? It seems like an odd transition.

I mean, to start with, I had that think caring about other people and the experiences that.

I had had at the time before making that decision were very clear cut for me. It's caring about the others. And I was experiencing healings at that time too.

Describe to me one of the healings.

People having, let's say, bad spinal issues, especially in the elderly or stuff like that, or injuries, you know, and getting the healing just by putting my hands on them.

You told me when we were back at your office that there was someone who was actually paralyzed. Yes, tell me about that.

We had it actually taped. We taped that. At the time we weren't doing the research. One of the NASA scientists was working with me.

And the lady was in Toledo and she had a crushed spinal cord at the upper lumbar level and she was completely paralyzed.

And we did it via Skype. And the recording was done.

In Virginia.

And you could see it from the start till the end when she got up.

She was in Virginia and you were here?

No, she was in Toledo. I was here at Cleveland. And the recording was happening in Virginia. About the frequencies that were. They were.

Oh, they were recording the actual frequencies.

Frequencies. Frequencies of the healing that was happening. And then we taped it.

How are they recording this?

Yeah, via Skype.

Okay.

On the Skype. And they were recording. They had the instrumentation.

Oh, I see. So they had both of you on Skype. She was in Toledo, you were here. Team in Virginia and Langley was filming this. Is this film available for people to see?

I think, yeah, they have it. I have to ask Kathy. They have all the recordings and all that, but right from. From being completely paralyzed to standing and walking. But what is interesting about those things.

What did you do to. To get her to stand and walk?

You just prayed the prayer and the intention with the prayer, you know, it translates itself. Actually, at one time I had a similar case, and it was in Virginia, though, the case. And I was communicating through the Skype and recorded the frequencies during the time of the healing. So I Took those, the recording itself, applied it through magnets on another patient with the same diagnosis and recovered.

So the future.

Plan is to delve deeper into that type of therapy.

Do you feel anything in your body when someone is healed? Like, do you when you are with them? You described how you could sense an area or an illness or an injury that they might have that needs to be dealt with. But then let's say you were to place your hands on someone, to pray over them or even prayer with them virtually, such as via Skype. Can you feel. Do you feel something click inside you when you know that work has been done or that they're on the road?

I feel the frequencies of the healing and I even hear it.

What's it feel like?

It feels like an info. It's like you are downloading the info.

It feels like that. Actually, we have that the first paper.

I made it available.

Yeah, you were telling about that paper in your office. What's the paper exactly? Because I'll look it up and put it in the show notes.

It's about the frequencies that we recorded.

Is it on PubMed or.

It's on drnemia.com.

Okay. Drnemian.com. i'll find it and link to it in the show notes. Okay, so what's this paper about exactly?

It's about recording the frequencies during the time of the prayer.

Okay, so when you're safe, when you say frequencies for people who are listening, who might not understand, what kind are these brainwave frequencies that you're measuring or what kind of frequencies?

No, the frequencies we are measuring are frequencies that manifest themselves during the time of the prayer on the Skype itself. Okay.

Oh, I see it here. Measurement and analysis of Continuous and Discrete Modulated Emissions recorded during Healing intercessory prayer. And you have a whole paper on this.

So it's.

So you, you describe it in the paper as electromagnetic monitoring. How's that work exactly?

Oscilloscopes.

Oscilloscopes.

We use oscilloscopes.

Is this similar to measuring? Because some people, to measure whether someone's electrochemical balances is proper, they'll measure what's called the phase angle of the body. Is it something similar to this or.

It's different.

Okay, how's it work exactly?

That's the subject of the subject of the paper.

What are you using for the measurement? Is it similar to what I was holding?

No.

What's an oscilloscope?

I was not.

Okay.

Yeah.

And how would you describe an oscilloscope to people?

The oscilloscope is an instrument that measures frequencies.

Okay.

Yes.

All right. So you're measuring cellular frequencies.

No, measuring info coming from the quantum field down to the physical body.

Okay.

All right.

So these are things that really people wouldn't be familiar with, having seen, measured before.

Simply, I can call it the language of consciousness. Wow.

And you can capture this in a waveform?

We've captured hundreds and hundreds of measurements, and I hear it every time I'm praying with somebody, especially on the web.

So this is measurable, this is quantifiable, using an oscilloscope. But you personally, as a human being, have been able to almost be like a human oscilloscope, since.

We are. We are oscilloscopes too.

We are not just you are, but all humans.

We are antennas.

Yeah.

Yes. We can perceive many things.

Do you think that very similar to how in an era of Google Maps and GPS satellite imagery, that we have perhaps lost, you know, a more natural ancestral ability to be able to, let's say, sense north, south, east, and west intuitively, that human beings actually do have the capability to be able to interact with each other in a far deeper, more meaningful, and almost like. Like a quantum photonic way that many of us simply do not know how to do or are not aware enough of those abilities to be able to tap into 100%. Can it be taught?

It can.

You have to raise the consciousness to a certain level where you be able to perceive those things.

And when you say raising consciousness, is that like a path of spiritual enlightenment that you raise the consciousness?

You can call it virtual mindset, you know, and you can. You can actually lead people into that type of state of mind that could allow them the access. And to tell you the truth, that's our origin to begin with. And things that we forget about by the age of four or five.

People who have this elevated level of consciousness, do you see patterns in them in terms of the way that they're living or things that they do that allow them to be able to be more conscious of other human beings in the way that you are?

Usually. Usually that's the case now. In this, we can perceive each other. I'll recognize right away, without knowing the.

People are there common characteristics that you.

See, It's a feeling, feeling of connectedness, you know, that you perceive. Same thing applies between mother and child. When there's something happening, they are connected. And there are many cases actually presented, documented cases of that type of connectedness between two individuals.

Would you say that a practice of mindfulness and presence would be an example of something that you'd see in someone who's able to detect that consciousness to a greater degree.

Yes. And some of my patients, actually, the chronic ones that stuck with me for a longer time or some individuals too, that. That did stick themselves with me, ended up perceiving and having that type of perception develop in them.

So.

Yes, and it's part of every single one of us, you know, apart that we. We are having amnesia.

Do you ever. When you. When you're. When you're healing people in this fashion, do you feel as though it tires you? Does it exhaust you? Do you feel. Because I sometimes think about, for example, Jesus Christ in the New Testament and how he knew how he felt. Almost like a. Like a power come out of him. When, for example, a woman who was sick would touch his garments and you would feel that power come out of him. Does. Does this tire you? Does it exhaust you when you're healing people?

It depends on the case. It depends on the particular case, if people are connected. Actually, I experienced a healing myself, too.

What healing did you experience?

I feel like if I'm having any pains or anything like this that are affecting me during that time, I feel the healing to myself. And then sometimes I feel a lot of pain.

You do?

Because I perceive them especially when there is resistance, let's say, or a case where people were very abused in their life. You know, I feel that sadness. That part really makes me suffer with them.

Wow. I came into your clinic this morning prior to that fantastic lunch that we just had, and you spent about 45 minutes with me, and you began by placing an object in my hands that seemed to be some kind of a currency type of device. It was a grounding. Grounding rod that you placed in my hand. And then you proceeded to take some measurements on me using a device that allowed the software that was connected from that device to your computer to quantify something about my body. What exactly was that? What was the initial measurement you were doing on that?

Yeah, the initial measurements was based upon giving about 200 microamps of electricity along different meridians. Okay, so you were measuring meridians, checking conductivity along those lines. Okay. It's simple, straightforward.

Is that something commonly done in, for example, acupuncture or traditional Chinese medicine?

I wouldn't say commonly. The Japanese usually started with that. And Germany started. The original measurement started in Germany in the early 50s.

Okay.

Yes.

Yes. Some people do use that. Yes.

And in this software that is then identifying which body systems, which body parts might be ill or in some kind of A state of dis. Ease. That's something that's picked up as you measure these meridians.

Yeah. A lot of authorities try to develop it as such. From my experience over many years, and based upon tens of thousands actually, that I've treated.

The interpretation is not that kind of a simple. Like going along a meridian, let's say, will give me the picture for picture. But the lungs, it's way more complicated than that because here in our body, we do circulated by electrical field and it runs through tributaries and, okay, it branches out. Now, if you have any.

Pathology or anything, any impediment along a certain line, it will shift part of the bioelectrical field that is flowing through that to different tributaries. And if the other tributaries are involved, it will shift to different tributaries too. So I cannot just take one measurement and based upon that measurement along a certain meridian and draw the conclusion. I have to look at other areas too, in conjunction with that. So the interpretation is more complex. That's how I developed the AI. Diagnostic AI based upon that.

And is that software using diagnostic AI, Artificial intelligence?

No. This one that I used on you. No.

But you're developing kind of.

I finished it already.

Okay.

Yes.

Are you using it right now in your practice?

I'm gonna be. No, I'm not using it.

Okay.

My practice, it will be. I'll be testing that next week.

Okay. Okay. So. So this is all kind of new. Some of these measurements that you're doing, then in terms of the. The technology that you're developing, the measurements are the same.

The same principle, you know, but.

The interpretation is we have our own already software done.

What did you decide that you wanted to develop AI software because you wanted to take what you currently do and what, you know, to be scalable to other physicians, for example, to be able.

To use this for the future, you know, right now is as a wellness in general, as a wellness tool, in a sense. It will allow you. It would be on your phone, and it will allow you actually to assess the effect of different things that you are experiencing during your daily life, whether food or activities or anything like that.

If it's on your phone. You know, for example, I wear this continuous blood glucose monitor on my arm. And conceptually, it's pretty simple. I use my phone, the app on my phone, to scan that and get my blood glucose. Would someone be needing to wear some kind of a sensor or a patch?

No, it would. The tool I developed would be a wireless, okay, small tool, and they can show you the pictures of it.

And it would Tie to an app.

And, yeah, wirelessly, it will be tying into the app, you know.

So to.

Explain this to people. You can use myself as an example, if you would like. When you. When you scanned me and then you looked at the computer, what are you looking for at that point before you begin a treatment, in terms of what.

The computer is telling you, draw the conclusions about the areas that are involved in your body. Okay. It's like sort of mapping for me.

What type of things did you notice when you scanned me?

That it means your proprietary information you.

Have my permission to share.

Okay. No, I noticed some micro circulation issue.

Microcirculation.

Yes. And it was the 100 related to the upper back and neck area. There was some abnormality there. And there are other things that I could read, you know, as a result, like a fatigue. I can predict. Okay. I could predict a little bit of anxiety that was related actually to the same problem.

To the anxiety related to the same upper neck and back problem.

Yes. Okay. And it tells me exactly what I have to do, physically speaking, when it comes to the therapy I delivered.

So at that point, then, what are some of the tools that you rely upon?

Many things we could use when it comes to this system, from microcurrents down to light, even magnetic fields, even sound.

Okay.

I think the first thing that you did was you took out, I believe you referred to as electro acupuncturist. And how does that work? Microcurrent.

Microcurrent along the meridians.

The current I used is a DC current, and the DC current is more physiological.

The DC current, DC current.

More physiological than any AC you use.

Yeah. I've interviewed a few people who develop electromyostimulation devices for muscle training.

Okay.

And the. The best ones use a dc? Yeah. Yeah.

I've noticed that years back. Okay. So I use a microcurrent. Minute, you know, minute amount. Okay. And by doing that, you open actually these channels.

So it's very similar to acupuncture, except those needles weren't really penetrating my skin. They're resting on the surface of the skin with. With electrical conductivity applied to the actual meal.

And it does change the conductivity along those lines, so opens up the system. Now, the effects of the system are tremendous. Actually. It optimizes the environment for the cells to function.

You think better than acupuncture?

Way better.

Wow.

Actually, what we can achieve is way different and more powerful. Yeah. Now we have permanent results.

Wow. Wow. Do people. Do people need to come back for repeat treatments or do you typically find that something like microcurrent has a lasting effect.

Lasting effect. Many patients come. Many patients came my way, especially with neuromuscular skeletal muscular problems. Many, many of them. Actually, it was one time experience. Wow. And over the years, I've never had any patient that came back with the same problem when I was done with their therapy.

Really?

Never.

Wow. Okay, so you've got the electroacupuncture, and then you also had some type of a. It was like a large white circular device that you placed on different sections of my body that vibrated and that I think you told me was creating some kind of a magnetic signal also.

Yes, a magnetic field.

What was that.

Magnetic field? And I measured.

The strength of it and the penetration, about 12 inches.

Okay.

But a long time ago, I noticed.

When you do that, it affects all tissues, nerves, muscles, bones. And I've done that for 20 some years.

But when I combine it with the displacement, at the same time, I notice that it becomes more effective and we can solve many problems, actually. But just by using that. That combination.

Which combination?

The displacement that it causes the vibration.

Okay. The displacement. When you say displacement, you're referring to vibration. Vibration, like a giant car buffer.

Yes.

Yeah. Okay.

And.

You can even stimulate the spinal cord so that even the brain.

But that device that. That's doing the massaging, displacing, that also has a magnetic signal that's traveled. Is it like it like a. Like a pulsed electromagnetic field, like a pemf?

Yes.

Okay, so you actually have. Did you design this or is this like a known device? Okay, so you patented this device that provides vibration pemf, and after you do the electro acupuncture, you're placing this device on different areas of the body?

Yes, it depends on the case too. I see any areas of deformity or arthritic changes in different joints, stuff like that, then I apply it. And major application in addition to the joints is the spine. You know, like deformities and all that. I can fix deformities just using that.

Yeah. Are you. Do you feel that God is working through those instruments? Do you feel that these are ways to combine modern technology with this ancient form of faith healing that you feel was probably something that you were. You were born with?

That's a beautiful question because.

It defines everything that I stand for. I cannot separate.

The spirit from the body. I cannot separate that. I cannot separate science from spirituality. Okay, so using the instruments I used on you, definitely. They have their own effect. There is no question whatsoever. But the intention, my intention towards your healing Plays a major role in doing that. And.

Over the years, you know, having that type of experience, it was very clear cut. Your intention could translate itself using different sources of energy.

Okay. So if you have the right intention and you are connected, it will definitely improve the outcome of your patients.

So when you're using these type of technologies, do you feel as though it enhances the effects that one might be able to achieve through, let's say something more basic Such as like a hands on healing.

Exactly. Because here it depends on the person.

Are you praying as you're using these devices continuously?

I do. And people don't have to.

People know that you're praying?

They don't have to know.

They don't know.

No, they don't have to know.

When you're talking with someone, as you're doing the therapy, are you simply just praying in the back of your head or what is that?

I'm always connected. I reached a level where I don't even have to mention, to even say a word. Because it's a continuous type of feeling that you have. Love.

You don't need to mention a word to God.

You mean I don't have. I don't have to mention a word. I'm continuously connected. I call it belonging, you see, So I carry it with me all day long, you know, and it's there always. Like you love somebody, you love your wife. Throughout the day, you forget about your wife. Yeah, definitely. She's.

Don't tell her I said yes, but yeah, she's. She's on the forefront of my mind. I'll say long 24.

Giving an example. Yeah, to, you know, simplify, you know, the idea. So when you have true love, you don't have to say a word.

It's a feeling.

Yeah, yeah. So you've got this, this vibration, the pmf, the electroacupuncture. I noticed you also had a large variety of what looks to be lasers. Use lasers a lot.

I use even light therapy, regular light therapy. Therapy.

You mean infrared light therapy.

Infrared. If I. Even when it comes to your intention, even regular flood light, I can use.

You mean just like shining that in someone's eyes?

Yeah. Not necessarily. It's a source of energy.

Yeah.

Well, the entire body is lined with photoreceptors. Right. So you would use energy, you could use light very similar to a laser as a spot treatment over an area.

But you see, if you are using without.

That intention that we talked about, different lasers will have different effects. There's no question about that. And when.

You are praying for somebody, I don't even.

Have to choose any source of energy to begin with, so I can use even regular floodlight.

And achieve the same result.

Interesting. Are there other tools that you find indispensable in your own practice?

In terms of technologies? I mean, you seem. I didn't know your background was in electrical engineering, but you seem very interested in developing technologies, patented technologies, using a wide variety of medical tools.

Yes, yes, I have. And I'll tell you one thing very interesting that could explain some of the stuff that could inspire you about technologies that we could develop. I leave the music all the time in my room, in my treatment room.

Very peaceful. Some of them are very inspired.

Pieces, and I've been witnessing that for many years. When the healing starts happening with some of my patients.

Their body starts responding to the inspired music.

How so?

Every part of their body will start moving to a different instrument.

You mean like they're physically moving or you can feel the physically.

Physically moving. Basically moving.

Interesting. Yeah.

So it tells you.

How effective that music is, those frequencies are.

Yeah.

There's an entire field of sound medicine.

No, what I'm talking about is so complex, even deformities in front of your eyes will start correcting in response to sound effect. Dancing. Dancing, yeah. And so harmonious throughout the whole body.

Do you ever use tuning forks or anything like that? I never tried therapy or sound healing. Like tables, acoustic therapy or. These are primarily just playing music.

I believe in those, actually. I use acoustic too, you know, but not one simple frequency. So a lot of people talk about simple frequencies, but it's way more complex than one frequency, you see. And the paper I told you about that we did, layers and layers of modulated actually signals, frequencies. So it's not one. I mean, if you think about it, one element. Every element has its own frequency. When you have an area that is getting a healing.

You know how complex the info that comes in that could affect a change in that particular place.

Is a set.

Well, it's pretty complex because you have different cells produce different frequencies, different organs. That's not as though you're treating just one cell or just one element or just one mineral.

Exactly, yeah. So it's way more complex than one frequency to be used, you know.

So when you're using music, when using sound healing, you would say that you would combine a varying degree of frequencies.

Yes. Not only this, your mind does generate. Your intention generates.

Frequencies, healing frequencies.

When you. When you say your intention generates healing frequencies, do you mean that when you. When you say the word intention, are you referring to intention the way that many people would think of it, such as, you know, having an intention when you wake up in the morning to. To be more present or having an intention, it. Would it be an intention based on really desiring for an area of the body to be healed?

Mm, yes.

Would you say that the intention needs to be paired with a deep faith that that area can be healed?

Faith is not enough.

Okay.

It has to be a practical faith.

And what do you mean by that?

Love. Love is the essence.

How so?

Love is the power that connects everything together. Love is the power that connects father to son. You see? Spirit. Yeah, yeah. And love is what connects. Connects you to your own body, actually.

So if someone is.

But they think about it as a feeling, it's more than a feeling. It's the power that connects everything together.

So would you say then that someone who has an injury or an illness, let's say someone has, I don't know, a tennis elbow and they're coming to see you for that, that they need to have a faith that that can be healed?

They need to have an intention? No, faith they don't have to have. But intention, they don't have to have anything. All they have to do is have good heart inside.

Okay. Is it enough for you, the healer, to have the intention and the faith, then?

Yes.

And for that person to simply be present with love?

Yes. Yes.

Can you tell when someone is coming to your office if they are not in a state to be healed, if they do not have a good heart, or if they cannot love?

And that's my job, actually. My job is to change their heart.

How do you do it?

Change their mind?

Do you do that when you're talking with them?

You do that by. By addressing their body.

To reach their mind. And I've been very successful over the years in doing that. That's my mission, actually.

What do you mean addressing their body? To reach their mind.

I cannot separate the mind from body. So the connection is not only from mind to body. The connection is from body to mind, too, you see? So in my therapy, I address the body and those people in order for their mind to open up.

You see?

So in terms of.

This mind, body connection, is this similar to the teachings of, say, like, you know, Bruce Lipton in the book Biology of Belief? This idea that negative emotions will deleteriously affect a certain aspect of the body and that positive emotions and positive belief patterns and prayers can induce a beneficial frequency that shifts the body into a.

State where it can be healed.

But from what I've seen and in medicine that's a known fact, actually, we've known that for many years. People that come in, they have the right state of mind, they want to survive, they want to get healed, they get a healing. How many people we used to send back, you know, send them home, end stage cancers, a couple years later, they come back and they are perfectly healthy, or they come in for open heart surgery. Young people that come in with a negative type of state of mind and they tell you we are going to die. Those are the ones who usually have complications and many of them die as a result. Right. And you get.

Because they believe that, because their mindset is not right. Yeah.

So it does reflect. Or the elderly, they come in, they are positive, they want to survive, and a couple of days after they are open heart, they get up and go home. Okay. How many cancer patients I've seen myself in the office, they come in with that positive type of state of mind, from stage four down to nothing, they get a healing. So though the mind, the effect of the mind upon your health is very, very clear cut from a.

Biblical perspective. Adam and Eve, before the fall, they were not supposed to experience, experience any illness or die, but after the fall when their mind changed, then they, you know, experienced the, the illness and they died.

So.

Yeah.

So biblically speaking too.

Yeah.

So your mind definitely plays a major role. I ask my patients, when they come in, especially cancer patients, about stressful situations, and I would say at least 98% of those tell me they were going.

Through a hard time when they were diagnosed.

When they were diagnosed.

Interesting. Do you think that that's because when they were going through a hard time, that they had some kind of an illness or an immune system issue come up that caused them to go and get tested, that then allowed cancer to be identified because, you know, normally they hadn't been testing and they decided to because something had popped up. Or do you think that, that when someone is in a stressful scenario, it allows a body that's susceptible to cancer to actually allow for that cancer to take hold and develop?

It does. It's one of the things, major things that are behind the cancer.

So there is kind of a strong, almost like an epigenetic component to what you do in terms of diseases that someone might be susceptible to manifesting based on a state of mind that they're in.

Influence?

Of course there isn't. There is more than one, you know, one thing that affects that Low immunity diet.

Low vitamin D. Yeah. In general.

Yeah.

You know, stuff like That a combination of things. It's not only one component, but the stress component is always present.

Have you taught many other physicians or practitioners what you do? Is this something. Something that other people are practicing now?

Not one? So far, no.

You haven't taught anyone so far?

So far, not one show of dangerous.

Are you concerned about if you. And sorry for what might be kind of a negative question, but like, if you die, that all this information just dies?

That's the sad part that I've been suffering with that. That's the sad thought that I've been going through for many years right now. If I die, it dies with me. And it's so effective in healing many things, you know, it saddens me. I'm very sad about that fact, you know, that's why I resorted to at least leave some kind technology that could store a lot of the information that I know. And that's why I developed that Ninorta, you know, artificial intelligence diagnostic. And it's not only diagnostic tool, and I have. In the future, it would be a delivery tool too, you know, therapy tool in addition. So you store a lot of that info into it.

Your son told me while we were driving over to your house from the clinic that there's also some type of a mouthpiece that you're developing.

I developed it already.

And what is that exactly?

It does eradicate gum disease.

Eradicates gum disease how?

Microcurrent.

Oh, really?

Microcurrent in the mouth. I used to treat a lot of patients.

So do you wear this mouthpiece while you sleep or something like that?

All you have to do, just wait for about 10, 20 minutes, a couple of times a week. You know, we did already clinical studies.

What kind of things would people notice if they began to use something like that?

Eradication of the gum disease.

Could it be used as preventive therapy for people who just want to. Want to have a clean mouth or clean gums?

Yes. Yes.

Is this operating on the same principles as like the old, you know, like the rife coils or the rife frequencies?

I don't use frequencies.

Okay.

Yeah, I don't use frequencies.

So micro current is different than a frequency.

Micro DC current. It's different from a secret.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay, got it. And so. So this mouthpiece doesn't need to be plugged in or does everything inside one.

One piece.

Okay.

Everything is included.

And what's the mouthpiece called?

Aura flow.

Or a flow.

Yeah.

Huh. Interesting. Are there other technologies that you're developing also?

Right now I am working. I'm working on a number of them, actually.

Yeah. Yeah.

And other discoveries in store because I discovered a lot of things.

Yeah.

One time I did a micro filming because I can reconnect nerves. So I found. Actually through the.

Reconnect nerves.

I can reconnect nerves. I found a molecule actually in our body that could reconnect nerves right away. No kidding. And that's my.

That's why I should have told you. I've got it. I've got it. Gotta see that thumb right there.

Yeah.

I can't feel anything right there because of a disconnected nerve in that thumb. So that's. That's interesting information. It was a stupid, stupid mistake, cutting ice cream. For those of you not watching the video, Dr. Nimeh's holding his finger above my thumb.

Yeah. Here it goes. Getting any sensation?

I can feel something already.

Already. It's really. It's doing it. It's getting stronger now. Here you go. And I'm not hypnotizing you, but this is different.

Is this different than. Than the nerve healing molecule that you were talking about? Because you're just.

No, it's not different.

Really? Yeah. Huh.

It's affecting that molecule.

Interesting.

Okay. Getting stronger.

I definitely feel something in my thumb. And your finger is not super close to it. Your fingers, like an inch from my thumb.

I can go even far away.

Really?

Yeah. Still, I'm connected.

Yeah. I can feel it. That's crazy.

And I go farther away. It gets stronger.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Okay.

Wow.

Yeah.

Why does it get stronger the farther that you go away?

Because the energy.

It seems counterintuitive.

The energy field that applies. Feel it. Is it that feeling back?

It feels different.

Yeah. Okay. It's coming back. That's a healing. I'm talking. And that's the energy field, actually, that we talked about.

Okay.

So.

So you explain why it gets stronger the farther your hand.

Because it's not part of this world.

It sits on the edge of the quantum field and the physical world. Yeah. That's where the. The laws that apply are.

The.

The reverse laws that apply to any field is in nature.

You see.

So the farther two objects are away in the quantum field, the stronger the force.

No, not the quantum field when the translation is happening.

Okay.

At the edge of it, you know.

Interesting.

Yeah.

Wow.

Not inside the quantum field. There is no. No energy field.

Yeah.

Yeah. It's just a field of info.

So is this a similar type of frequency that people are using when they'll do something like Reiki, for example? Are you familiar with that?

No. No.

That's different.

That's different.

How is it different if someone's just like, you know, when doing like a.

Re session, hovering over your body, coming from intention. And here, you know, that's one thing. The laws that apply here are different from the laws that apply there. What they are feeling is the bioelectrical field. And when you focus on it, you could feel your bioelectrical field. But then the farther away you are, the weaker. Yeah, okay. Yeah, a huge difference. I mean, I know a lot of other details about it, you know, but definitely different. It's from spiritual.

Different level.

How many of these ideas come to you through what you would consider to be like a. Like a divine revealing from God versus how much of this do you get from just books, research, reading?

I don't read anything, etc.

You don't read anything? No, no.

You know how to read on purpose? I prevented myself from reading anything.

Why?

Because I don't want to be influenced by anybody's ideas. You see that the way I'm applying things, they materialize. I don't want to hear somebody's opinion that you cannot put it to life.

You know, that's an odd approach. Not a people. No, I mean, especially not. Not a lot of people who are, you know, in. In professional medicine would say that they. That they wouldn't want to read books.

Or, or I abstained from. From readings, especially that type. Those types of books. Books. Not because I'm rejecting them. I. I have my own inspiration.

You don't want it to corrupt the purity of your authentic purity.

Yes. Huh. Yeah.

That's interesting.

It's not like you mentioned Bruce Lipton. I have a lot of respect.

Yeah.

Okay. I respect everyone like that they are inspired, you know, trying to do the right stuff. But here I don't want to have. You see, those things are very interesting, especially when it comes to the type of work I am doing. Again, not to corrupt the. The connection that I have. So, you know, because here, when you.

Ever feel like you're missing out, like, like that there. That there's information that you could be.

Reading, it could be.

It could be.

Definitely. I could be missing out. There's no question in my mind about that, but I worry about the conclusions.

Yeah.

You know, sometimes.

They talk about the truth in there, but the conclusions they draw, sometimes it does not fit me or fit my view.

And that's the idea. That's what I mean by not corrupting it.

Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. So when you're getting these ideas for some of the devices that you're developing and the treatments that you're developing, you would say that much of it comes from. From God speaking to you.

A lot of things that I am doing, I never learned from anybody. The whole thing I'm doing is.

Just inspiration.

Just inspired by God.

Yes.

And do you like what you do? Do you feel as though you're like.

You'Re on a mission of service? Is this something that you wake up in the morning and just love to do?

Yes.

Because you work a lot. You're like. The impression I got was you're with patients a lot.

Yes, I do.

Yeah.

More than full time.

When was the last time you took a vacation?

22 years ago.

22 years. And besides, you just. You stay here in Cleveland, you go to the clinic every day.

I go every day.

Wow. Wow. How many patients do you typically see in a day? Because obviously you're spending. You know, you were like 45 minutes an hour with me, so.

Oh, sometimes a couple hours.

Wow.

Depending on the case, you know. Of course, I don't see too many a day because it takes me a long time, but I work from late night usually.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm curious because I'll have some people who listen to this interview that we're doing, and they're going to want to meet with you or to learn from you or to be treated. Do people fly here every time to Cleveland to be treated, or do you do much of this stuff online?

No, I have people flying from all over the world. They do.

Well, what I mean, though, is you do, like, telemedicine. Do you do science?

I do. I do telemedicine, too. And actually, the tool I'm developing will help that a lot.

You mean the. The artificial intelligence?

Yes.

Yeah.

It will open the door for telemedicine, actually, to be more accurate.

How so?

Because it does reflect all the systems throughout the whole bath.

Oh, so a practitioner will be able to test virtually and identify which systems are actually at a low frequency.

Yes.

And then treat accordingly.

Treat or refer. I mean, I saved many people, you know, from their heart attacks, because the way I measure it picks it up even in months, even before it happens.

No kidding.

Yes. And we have cases. We documented cases. Wow. Yes. Saved their life, actually, because they were not having any symptoms, and yet they uncovered it with a measurement. Wow. You know, and I sent them right to cardiologist. Actually saved their life, you know?

Yeah. Wow. Well, you know, if. If people wanted to do this and. And to book a session with you or something like that, do they just go to the, the Dr. Nime.

Path of Faith.

Yes.

Is it the name of your practice Path of Faith?

No, no, no, that's for the prayer.

Okay.

Yeah, but I don't know. Kathy knows that info on that.

Okay, well, I can find it and put it in the show notes, which are going to be. Yes, you know, @BenGreenfieldFitness.com Miracles every day. And you know, like I mentioned in the introduction, you have a book that was where I, where I became somewhat familiar with your work. Well, you didn't write the book. It's a book about you. Miracles Every Day, the story of one physician's Inspiring faith and the Healing power of Prayer is the name of that book. And I recommend any of you who are intrigued by what we're talking about, you should read the book. What were you saying?

And that book cured Dr. Jeffrey Rediger from Harvard.

Oh, I've read Cured. Is that also the whole chapter is.

About what I do?

Okay, yeah, I'd read that a long time ago. I didn't realize. Okay, so I'm thinking I read that and you were the same physician in that book, but I hadn't put two and two together. Okay. Yeah, Cured is another good one. I'll link to that one in the show notes as well. Try to write a note to myself here. Okay. So I know that a lot of you probably have questions and some of this may seem kind of, kind of woo, woo, kind of, you know, esoteric, this whole idea of faith based healing. But I have to tell you that it's super interesting what Dr. Nieme is doing. And so I would recommend that those of you who are interested in go to the show notes, go to BenGreenfieldFitness.commiracles every day because I'll have more information about Dr. Niemey and his book. And in terms of you, Dr. Niemey, for the future, besides this artificial intelligence software, is there anything else coming down the pipeline on your end that you're very excited about or that you think is going to be transformative for medicine.

For the work that you do? Yes, we have a couple of things actually I'm planning on doing. And one of them is we talked about the frequencies, is about recording them and create sort of a base.

Info, you know, that could allow actually.

Us to.

Our subconscious mind to connect to people. Let's say focusing on somebody, it does translate itself in your body.

As frequencies. And those instruments could be developed and I'm going to be working on it. That could allow you, let's Say, focusing on somebody to have the full information about their physical being.

And it connects to that instrument. And the instrument has all the. The info about illnesses and stuff like that. You know, it needs a lot of programming.

Yeah.

You know, but it's based upon our finding too, from frequencies of Healing.

So let's say I focus on. On you. I pick up the. All. The set of all frequencies that define you.

Okay.

And I've done something like this before. So we had a group of people, we registered the frequencies of. Of them, and blindly, when I'm focusing on. On one, pick up the frequencies of that one. And the second party was guessing accurately the ones that was focus I was focusing on.

Wow.

Yeah. So this gave me the inspiration actually to delve into that project to develop it actually, for others. It's not for me.

Yeah, yeah. And is that a piece of software or is that.

It will be software, yeah. It will be a software, an instrument that could actually translate from your.

Right, you need an instrument on the body to actually detect the frequency feed.

Into that software, let's say your hand, into. Into the instrument.

Yeah.

Wow. So it makes it available for everyone.

Yeah.

You know. Yeah. And that's my dream, actually, to make.

Everyone basically, like, allow people who may not even have the same intuitive type of sensing that you have to be able to achieve that by harnessing themselves to technology.

Because that thing is not only for me.

Yeah, yeah. Amazing. So there is a way that much of what you do can kind of live on and be taught. It's kind of cool that you're achieving that not through writing books, through telling stories, through having some kind of a practitioner teacher programming, but you're instead doing it through technology, through design of technology.

It's very interesting.

Yeah, yeah.

That's one of the projects. The other is now when you are praying and there are changes happening within the body, there are certain things that pick up the frequencies that are coming into you.

And I did microfilming on that and you could see the intelligent design actually two cells communicating with each other, filling a gap, let's say empty gap. I filmed it myself years back.

Wow.

Okay. Now look at the beauty of it. It could open the door for us to recognize the effect of different molecules within the body. Let's say I'll be praying for the eye, and the eye is getting the healing. I have access to the eye to look under magnification to see which molecules are moving first. They are causing the physical effect.

Yeah.

You see?

Wow. So you. I mean, in a way, you're Actually able to a certain extent quantify.

The effects that an emotion or a belief or a prayer is having on the body and actually identify that on a molecular level in terms of what's happening. Similar to almost like, you know, I realize the research gets a little bit of flack, but like the way that Masao Umoto did with water, measuring the crystalline structure of water and its changes in the water when exposed to certain positive prayers. But you're doing that with the human.

Being, with the human body. Wow.

It's fascinating.

It opens the door for us, the term adverse. Deeper knowledge about many mechanisms involved within our body.

Yeah.

That we are unaware of. Basically, it could be healing for many disease entities.

Man, we. We live in such a cool era that we're able to do things like this and that someone who probably, if you were few around 2000 years ago, you would have been laying hands on people to heal them. And now you're able to use technology to actually replicate what you do, assist what you do, enhance what you do. And being a guy who often talks about. During my talk last night that I gave at Town Hall, I said, I like to combine ancestral wisdom with modern science, a little bit of traditional Chinese medicine and ayurvedic wisdom, and then the modern field of biohacking and modern medicine. And I just love that concept. And it seems as though you've adopted it pretty well in your practice also. And. And I know we're getting close to wrapping up here, but I want to tell everybody listening in, go to the show Notes. You can ask your questions, you can leave your comments, you can leave your feedback. You can go to Dr. Nimei's website and come out to Cleveland and see him or meet with him virtually. I think that he's a very interesting individual. And I feel honored and blessed to have connected with you, Dr. Nieme. And for those of you listening in, that's all going to be@BenGreenfieldFitness.com Miracles and every day. That's BenGreenfieldFitness.com Miracle every day and Dr. Nime A, I want to thank you for coming on the show. B, I want to thank you also for allowing your daughter to sing that wonderful musical introduction. And I'll link to her on Spotify. For those of you who want to go listen more to Ashley and some of her music, I'll put that in the show as well. And thank you so much. You're a wonderful family, beautiful family, and just a wonderful service you're doing for the world.

Thank you. I thank you. It's my honor and my blessing. Awesome. You know, and what you are doing is akin to what I am doing. Inspiring people is a healing for all of them.

Yeah. I'm just delivering the message, baby, finding amazing people like you and making sure more people know about you. So again, folks, BenGreenfieldFitness.com Miracles every day. Dr. Nieme, thank you so much for coming on the show. And we will put a video version of this interview as well right there in the show notes for those of you who want to watch the video version of both of us sitting in his beautiful home here with a wonderful work of art behind us. We'll do a video, too, @bengreetfulfitness.com Miracles every day. Thanks for listening in. And have an amazing, amazing week.

God bless.

All right, man, that was good.