How Hospice Nurse Julie Made Death Go Viral—and Life More Meaningful (With Julie McFadden)

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Welcome back everybody to Club Nurse. I am so excited for this conversation today. I've actually had the pleasure of speaking with Julie before, uh, also known as Hospice Nurse Julie on social media. Uh, she has massive YouTube, TikTok, Instagram. That's where she posts a lot of, a lot of her content. Um, definitely check her out if you haven't. It's @HospiceNurseJulie everywhere. So yeah, like I said, I, I've talked to Julie before. I'm so excited to have you back and to kind of dive into, into into more of what you do. But if you want to just introduce yourself and kind of give us an idea of who you are and what you do.

Yeah, thank you so much for having me. I can't wait to talk to you. So hi, everyone. My name is Julie McFadden, or also known as Hospice Nurse Julie online. I've been a nurse for 16 years. And the first half of my career, I was an ICU nurse, you know, jumped around doing that from different hospitals and travel nursing. I did a bunch of different things, but mostly in the ICU. And then I switched to being a hospice nurse because of my experience in the ICU. And then a few years into hospice nursing, I eventually developed, you know, Hospice Nurse Julie online where I educate about death and dying. And that's been for about 4 years. And, you know, that whole thing, the whole Hospice Nurse Julie thing kind of took on a, on a mind of its own. So now I do that and I still work as a hospice nurse, just not full time.

Okay, so what did— I'm curious, what, at what point in this journey being a hospice nurse? Did you realize like, I need to start like documenting what's happening? I need to start making note of or taking note of this, and then sharing this with the world to see like what, what sparked you to do that?

You know, it's a great question. I think it was probably 4 or 5 years into being a hospice nurse, and 2 of my very close friends, like right in a row, where both their parents went on hospice, and I would talk with them and educate them and like just say, kind of like the spiel I say to like all of my families and their— and my patients. And they were like my very close friends. And their reaction to me talking about it was like surprise and like, what the heck? I didn't— how can we be friends? And I didn't know like this was your life and that you knew this stuff. And how come no one's talking about this stuff? You should— you need to talk about this more. And I was so surprised. That they didn't know the things I was saying. And I was so surprised that they didn't know that I knew the things I was saying. You know, it's so funny because I'm sure you are like this too. Like, I don't talk about nursing in my everyday life to my friends, really. I kept it very separate. Plus, I'm a hospice nurse. So people like at dinner parties, people didn't want to be like, tell me about your work. You know, everyone's like, yikes, I don't want to talk about this.

Right.

So They're the ones that kind of sparked me into like, you should talk about this. And initially, because I think I was, I was probably like 39 when this was happening. Initially, I'm in the age of like, we start a podcast, right? Like, never in my wildest dreams was I like, oh, I'm going to start a TikTok, which is where it all started. So I was going to do a podcast and like we were talking about earlier, then I realized like how hard that was and how like I didn't know how to edit or do anything. So I was like, oh, I'm not going to do this.

Yeah.

And then I went home to see my nieces who are, you know, of like TikTok age, or so I thought. This was like 2022, so TikTok had been out for only a couple years or whatever. And I got on TikTok because of them. They were doing dances and I was doing dances with them, and like I was basically on it just so I could like watch them do stuff. Then of course you get addicted to TikTok because it's so easy to keep watching.

Of course, it's the whole point.

I know, right? Yeah. And then I saw people my age like educating about space and like talking about gardening and cooking and like whatever. And I thought, well, I'm going to do this. And I only had 5 videos in mind. Didn't do any kind of like preparation. Literally just sat on my bed, bad lighting at night, and like talked into the camera like 5 different videos, posted them randomly. And like the 4th one in, or the 4th day in, something like that, one went viral. And then it kind of like took a mind of its own. It was like 10,000 followers overnight, 100,000 followers in a month, a million in a year. And that's why I say it took on a life of its own, because I didn't really try. I really didn't. I didn't have like a vision. I didn't have like an idea of what I was really going to do.

Yeah.

And here I am. Yeah.

You just kind of posted without, without expectations and it just kind of naturally took off. Like you said, had a mind of its own. I'm curious, like, how has this work shifted your own views on death and living? Like, through this work that you've been doing, has it— how has it, and if so, how has it changed your perspective on that?

I think the more I'm involved with hospice, the more it is about living versus dying. When initially, I think it was more about like, dying, and me being fascinated and surprised by how, for lack of a better word, how cool It was like how cool our body is. And I was so surprised coming from the ICU setting where we're trying to keep people alive.

Yeah.

Seeing how not doing much at the end of life can really help someone die really peacefully and how our body has all these built-in mechanisms to help us die. So initially for me, I was like learning all of these things about the natural way our body dies. And it was like mind-blowing and fascinating and like really took away a lot of the fear I had around death. Because like, whatever, like, no matter what happens after we die, the part about like how we die and what happens when we die, especially if you're on hospice, that part was so reassuring because I saw time and time again how our body really helped us do it. And then the more I've— now that I'm kind of like, quote unquote, used to that, right?

Yeah.

It turned into like hearing the same things over and over again from patients that made me be like, oh my God, they're so right. Like, you can't take your health for granted. Like, I want to appreciate that I'm alive and well and can like drink my coffee and like smell the coffee and see the sun and walk and these little things that like you take for granted. My patients really have helped me like shift my mindset to like reflecting on death can really help me live. And I really do like, I really practice what I preach.

Yeah, like take those, like, like take those little moments and like taken those, those things that we would classify as like so small like that. Like I've heard you talk about just like enjoying like that cup of coffee in the morning. Like, yes, it may seem so small, but I think when you get, when you zoom out and you put yourself at the end of your life, like that really is a big thing. Like that's a big deal to be able to just like sit down in the morning with whatever view you have and like enjoy a cup of coffee. Like that's huge to someone. That's everything. And then, but for us, you know, in these, in our, in the daily grind of our life, like we're just like, You know, we forget that. And then we're, you know, we're so quick to just be like running out the door, like, oh, I'm just gonna grab the coffee on the go. And I don't even remember tasting it because I just wanted it for the caffeine, you know, like, and so I think that's like what you're saying. I can imagine even just through like the nursing I've done, it's that perspective of, you know, and the daily reminder of I need to slow down and I need to really, whatever that is for you, you know, coffee is just something that's coming to my mind because I've heard you talk about it and I also love coffee.

Me too.

Yeah, but just like sitting there, like actually just like actually enjoying that and not just like rushing through life and trying to— because like we all have— I feel like we all have this, this is like, like we're running trying to get to like this destination. It's like, where are we? Like, where are we going? You know, like—

I know. I mean, we hear it over and over again, right? Like, it's not— it's not the— it's the journey, not the destination, or whatever. I'm kind of butchering that, but something like that, right?

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, how can— like, How do we shift? It's easy to say it, right? But how do you actually shift into that mindset where you are more focused on gratitude and like the little things? And for me, that has been the practice. It's a practice. And being a hospice nurse and being around death and being around dying people and, and really fully understanding that that will be me someday has helped me be able to shift into that mindset more easy, like more frequently and a little easier.

Yeah.

Because we can talk all day about like, you need to live in gratitude. Everyone Everyone says that, right? But it's like, okay, well, how, how do you do that? And to me, it's, to me, it's not morbid to reflect on the fact that I'm going to die. Like, I really have that knowing deep in me. There's no denial there. And if I get lucky enough, I think it's lucky if I get to die on hospice, not be hit by a car or in some freak accident or something.

Right.

Then like, like having that knowing really helps me live in gratitude Some of the time. I mean, I'm still human, right? But like, I get back to that awareness easier because of my job.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kind of like what you're saying, what a privilege it is for somebody to— and like a weird, almost way to twist and look at this. Like what a privilege it is to be on hospice and be able to like be oriented enough to reflect on your life versus like what you're saying, like tragically dying in like a car accident or something. To even just be able to have those, that that time to feel your, your loved ones and have that time to look back on your life and think of all the amazing things that you've got to experience, uh, in this physical world. It's a great kind of way to look at it versus hospice being like this depressing, terrible, you know, like death wish. Like, it's like, no, you're actually almost just like granted this time to just like reflect on your entire life. And you've probably seen that a ton of people that just like are sitting there and just reflecting on, on what they've been through. Yeah.

Yes. And I think I've seen that. And I've seen the opposite of that, which has helped me be like, yeah, that's one of the main drivers when I first started was like, people need to know, people need to know the importance of educating and learning about death and dying on a biological level, right? And then on just on a life level, because I've seen the difference it can make. The people who are unwilling to— and I get it, I relate. I mean, I understand why, but like people who are unwilling to talk about it, to relate, to accept it, to even when they're on that journey, like it's just so much harder for them and their families versus the families who are willing to maybe not necessarily go, oh, this is a gift. You know, every day this is a gift, but like they at least understand that this is the time, this is the moment. There's nothing they can do about it. So like, let's be together. Let's talk about it. Let's, let's laugh. Let's reflect.

Right.

When you do that, you usually live better because you're not dead yet.

Right.

You're not dead yet. So you live better and you die better. You do die more peacefully, usually.

Yeah. You've probably— you really have probably seen the whole spectrum of people who have gotten to like the end of their life and can look back with, with peace and just gratitude for their life than the people that have gotten there who look back and just— that's got to be so painful to see somebody like in such regret that their life was not what they wanted it to be like. That has to be one of the most painful things to witness because there's nothing you can do at that point, right? You can't— you can't go back. Versus somebody who can truly just reflect and just be grateful for the life and the love that they've, that they've experienced.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And it's like, it can be like the most beautiful. That's why my job is really very, very beautiful. There are times when it's sad, but for the most part it is really beautiful, even if everything's not perfect. Because no, because obviously people— yeah, people aren't perfect. Right. Right. But like even catching glimpses of like the love between 2 people, or like loved ones sitting with their loved one who's dying, even though it's like wildly uncomfortable for them to sit there. And it's so painful for them to be there because it's so sad. But they like choose to be there anyway because they love this person so much. That is enough to make me like weep cry every time I see it. I don't, 'cause I'm— it's like not about me, right?

Yeah.

But when I go to my car, those are the videos I make when I go to my car and just go, Life is so beautiful. Like, this is so sad, but it's also so fricking beautiful to witness stuff like that.

And you need—

it's, I think I, one thing I love about your platform and what you do is even like you being in a position that you're in, you still need those constant reminders, right? It's, it's like we learn all these things, we have all these perspectives on life, and then we go to sleep and wake up and we're in a Pissed off mood for whatever reason. And it's, we need those daily reminders. We need those things to happen to be like, right, I have to remember, like, this is, you know, my one life or whatever. Um, so for you to then share that with people too, because not everybody gets that privilege to see somebody on hospice and you're, you're, you know, you're seeing that in your job. And so for then you to go out there and share it so people can kind of, you know, you're welcoming them into that.

Yeah.

to that world that they would otherwise not see is super important because you put out so much educational, you know, so many educational videos and just real-life experiences that sometimes can't be explained by science or why is this happening. I know you've gone into a lot about visioning and the deathbed phenomenon and all that stuff. And I would encourage people to go watch a lot of your other interviews that you've done because you go into great detail with those. But is there anything Is there anything in that now, looking back after you've written your book, Nothing to Fear, is there anything now that you would have added into, into the book that you didn't?

Oh, that's a great question. I mean, the book really, like my chapter, chapter 6 in that book is all about the medical phenomena that happens at the end of life. So, and it's the longest chapter, because there's so much stuff that, that, that does happen, which was surprising as an ICU nurse, right? Like, I'm like, All fact-based.

Yeah, right.

So it was a big shift for me to be like, what's going on here? You know? And even, even witnessing it for the first time— when I say it, I mean like any of the phenomena, the visioning, the, the death stare, the death reach, people talking to dead loved ones— like that stuff, when you first witness it, it's like, it's so surprising. And then, and then after a while it becomes second place because it happens all the time. Which is wild. Anything I would add though?

Um, I mean, if there's not, that's okay too. I just was curious if there's anything.

I mean, I think it's like my, my job is like ever-changing and, and like all the people I meet are so amazing. So I don't know if I necessarily say I'd add things, but I wish, I mean, obviously it's a huge HIPAA violation here, right? So like, I wouldn't, I wouldn't do this, but I wish people could like come into these houses with me.

Yeah.

Because it's not necessarily like these big happenings where like someone's always seeing their dead grandpa, right?

Yeah.

It's like these cool experiences of like walking into a house of 2 people who are in their 90s, let's say, which not everyone on hospice is old, right? But let's just say this, right? You walk into their house, they're like both in their 90s. They've been married for like 50-some years. They bought the house in the '40s. It's literally like no one's ever touched it since they bought it.

Yeah.

So like it's walking into a time capsule. There's pictures of their life everywhere. You know, like even just learning about their life as like a 90-some-year-old person who grew up in Mississippi and now lives in Los Angeles and had 8 kids. Like that stuff is the magical stuff. That is like learning about people, connecting to people. That's the stuff that I wish I could give every little detail to everyone.

You probably, 'cause in those moments you realize what truly, and it sounds so cliché and so like, ugh, but it's just like what truly matters, right? It's just like that love, that connection, like, Yes, we, we all love— I mean, I guess I can't speak for everybody, but most of us love material things too. It's, it's fun, enhances our lives. But at the end of the day, like the, that love, that connection and what you're, you know, the impact you're making on people while you're physically here, like has to be the most important thing when you get to the end of your life. And that's all that you really have, right? Is there anything that, like, since doing this work, is there anything that scares you about dying? Like, do you think about your death and is there anything that actually does scare you or are you really just like at peace with the fact that going to happen, and I welcome it when it does.

Yeah. So my book is called Nothing to Fear, which I do believe, like, and I don't have much fear around death. And I think it's also normal to fear. And I always say, if I got diagnosed with something terminal tomorrow, I would still have like the human experience of being like scared and sad and angry. And I would have all of like the roller coaster of emotions, I think, throughout that whole process. But generally, I think I have a better grasp of like, okay, this is gonna be okay. And this is a fact of life.

Yeah.

People die.

Yeah.

But no, I would still— so there's not one thing that like scares me. It's just, I just know I'm still a human and I will still have moments of fear and moments mostly of like, oh, I don't wanna go, you know? No, not yet. I'm not, I'm not ready to go. I can't believe this is happening to me.

Right?

I think that's a common thing happening to me. I still will have all of those things again if I even get to experience that. Maybe I won't, maybe I'll— who knows? Be— I always say car accidents, that's the first thing I think.

Yeah.

You just never know how it's gonna go down, right? And that kind of scares me sometimes thinking about that. I'm definitely like— on a side note, nothing to do with hospice nursing, but just personality-wise, I like run a little anxious. I run a little like OCD kind of like crazy thoughts of like worrying about my sister dying and me, you know, being murdered. I watched too much murder mystery, like things like that. Right. So like, that's still going on in the background. And luckily I feel like through therapy and medication, folks, I—

Game changer.

Yeah. Game changer. It doesn't like affect my life too much.

Yeah. Yeah. Um, did you hear, I don't know why this came to my mind when you were talking about maybe just like ways to die, but the Again, this is kind of off topic, but that story of that plane that had just crashed and the one person that survived, did you hear about that?

What?

You didn't hear about this?

No, tell me, tell me, tell me. When did it happen?

Recently. This was like a couple weeks ago.

Oh my God, no, I don't know.

Oh my God, the flight was going from— oh, I don't want to get the story wrong. It was— I think it was on its way to London from some— I have no idea. I don't remember where it was coming from.

Going to London, like a big, a big old plane.

Big plane. It crashed and I think 200-something people died. There was one person that survived the plane crash. Insane. And he walked off of the flight. He just walked off like he was sitting— it was all over the news because he, he was sitting right by the exit door. And so when the plane crashed, for he— I was reading an article, he just was like, yeah, I saw the opening. I just walked out. And he, I mean, he was banged up like the plane had just crashed, but every single person on that plane. died except for him. Like, his brother was on the plane, and it's just insane. I'm like, that you can't— again, there's one of those things that you just like, you just cannot explain. Um, and I just wonder, like, for him, like, what kind of— I mean, I'm sure there's some kind of survivor's guilt. I don't know. I have not watched like interviews or anything really with him, but just that there's got to be some— like, that's miraculous, right? Like, those things don't just happen.

Uh, miraculous.

But yeah, look it up. It's crazy.

Did he say— okay, we won't have to stay on this for a lot. I won't ask a bunch of questions, but one question. Did he talk— so was he like Alert and oriented when it was crashing. Like, he knew, like, plane's going down, like, here we are, gonna hit. And then he—

Yeah, so I don't know. So I don't know exactly what his— because from my understanding, and again, I don't— like, don't quote me on this totally. I remember, I remember reading the article and I was just more like in shock. But if I remember correctly, I think that the plane had like taken off and then they were having issues very early on in the flight, and then it pretty soon went down. It hit a building. People in the building died as well. But like the plane, like yeah, it was like on fire. Like he, like he just was able to just walk out and he never had to, like he wasn't in, like he wasn't intubated or anything. He just, he walked out. He was able to get medical care. I don't even know what country they were in at this point, but just, just like a wild story of just these, these crazy things that like, just again, just a reminder in the news we get. So like the plane crashes get headlines because it's just so many people on there. Where people are dying probably at way higher rates in cars every single day. Um, but just, yeah, you just never know like what's going to happen. Um, just kind of tying that back into how important it is to like live our lives every single day with, uh, to our best ability with that gratitude, with just remembering, you just never know what's going to happen. You're not promised to live until you're 100 years old. Right.

Right.

And so, yeah, I don't even know how we got on, on that topic of, of the plane crash, but just crazy.

Well, I didn't help you cause I was like, tell me everything.

Um, oh, this was, this was the question I was going to ask you. So, uh, we've talked about visioning and everything before. We can give the audience a brief kind of overview of what that means. I don't want you to feel like you have to go into detail. And like I told you before we started, I know you've talked about it a million times, but my question for you specifically was if you were to be, you know, on hospice in your dying days, would you, who would you want to see? You know, what would, what would bring you comfort of like, if you were having this vision?

Yeah. So if I was visioning, so if anyone who doesn't know this, people on hospice, Usually start seeing dead relatives, dead loved ones, sometimes old pets that have died. It's usually about a few weeks before death, and just to clear things up, they are not oxygen deprived. They are usually not on a bunch of medications. It's not delirium. Like as a nurse, like I would already think these. I would already be asking these questions as well. So I always want to clear that up. We don't know why it happens, but we do know why. But we do know that it's not happening because of those things, right? Because most people think it's like happening right before someone dies. And that's not true. It's usually about a month out, which as a hospice nurse, you kind of clock. If someone's saying they're seeing their dead grandpa, you're like, okay, they'll probably die in a month. So like, you can kind of time it out.

Yeah.

Anyway, who would I wanna see? So if I was going to die soon, I would wanna see my friend Shawna who died. That would be really exciting. My friend Don who died, my friend Mike who died. So a lot of friends who have like, kind of tragically died young. I'd love to see them. I think I'm not— I haven't— I wasn't very close to my grandparents, but my one grandpa who I really didn't know at all, 'cause he died like when I was very, very young, for some reason I still feel very connected to him. So I'd love to see him. And my Uncle Bill, who I never met, I'd love to see. Wow, I have a whole group of people.

Yeah.

But if I die old, you know, if I'm like elderly in bed, like in my 90s, I, of course, my parents, my cousins, my friends, like I want, I want everybody.

Yeah. Everybody comes.

I guess I, I guess I wanna see a lot of people. Yeah. Yeah.

That's just, have you ever gone, and you don't have to answer this if it's like too personal, but have you ever gone to, cuz I, I, I was trying to connect the dots on this of people, you know, like going to a medium. Have you ever gone to one? And visioning seems that like, that's kind of like opening that veil, you know, like you're at this point, you have access to this other Realm or whatever you want to call it? Like, do you feel like that's just kind of a similar thing?

I always just say, like, I have no idea. I don't know. Like, I never want to try to be like, oh, it's for sure happening because of this. Generally speaking, I don't know. I just know it happens. And yes, I have gone to a million mediums because— so my friend Shawna, when I was 17, she was my best friend and she died tragically. So it was like super friggin horrific. I got a tramp stamp. With her name.

Yeah.

Back then it was cool. It wasn't called a tramp stamp. I heard they're like back in style.

So are they?

Yeah.

Look at you, trendy.

Yeah. All right. Um, can I say tramp stamp? I just realized that.

Of course.

Why not? Lower back tattoo people. Anyway, so for years when she— after she died, I went to like a million mediums and no one said anything that I felt was great. You know, it was always very vague. And then after I kind of gave up Trying, because it's been years now, you know, probably about 10 years ago, I went to a medium through a friend. And it was over the phone. And I remember thinking, and it was kind of like after I had, quote unquote, gotten over it.

Not—

I mean, obviously, you never get over—

Sure.

Friend dying. But like, it wasn't like super fresh where I would like, still cry about it all the time and stuff.

Yeah.

And I'd gotten over like needing to hear from her. You know, her and I had these very specific nicknames that we only talked to each other. She called me Butch and I called her Ralph. No one else really did except for us. And like, no, we— no one really knew it, right? So in my mind, when I talked to this guy, this other medium, I thought, I'm only going to think that it's Shawna if he says my nickname.

Mm-hmm.

And So he was talking to me for like 2 minutes and all of a sudden he was like, oh my God, there's this girl here. She's like super excited. She is like jumping up and down. She's super excited to talk to you, but she's not calling you by your, by your name. She's calling you by like some weird nickname.

Yeah.

Some, I don't know why, but it's something so weird. And you could tell he was kind of like not wanting, he just didn't understand it. Right. So he was like, I don't know. I feel like she's saying Butch. I know how weird this is, but I think she's saying she's calling you Butch.

And you're like—

and I like, I'm getting chills right now just thinking about it.

Yeah, yeah.

And like, I had felt like I didn't think it would matter that much for her to— for me to hear from her.

Yeah.

But in that instant, it's honestly like 20 years of grief like fell off of me.

Yeah.

I like sobbed and sobbed and sobbed and sobbed and sobbed. I didn't really hear anything else he was saying. And honestly, he did start saying like some weird stuff that I was like, Okay. Like, by the end of it, he was like, she's, she's flying off with the drake. Like, he just started saying weird stuff.

Either way, you're like, you should have stopped there.

I know, just stop right there. That's all I needed to hear.

Yeah.

Either way, it was like, I say all this to say, like, that was my one experience with a medium that even though he got kind of weird after I, um, or like during, it was like the one thing I needed to hear that really validated that, like, we're still connected.

Yeah.

And it really healed. It really, really, really helped my grief.

Was it like a way to like make you understand that she was okay, that she was at peace, or was it just a way for you to just feel that maybe her presence was always kind of with you?

Yeah, I think that it was like, because it was so specific and, um, in my head it was such a specific random thing that like only her and I would really know. And it wasn't even like I would tell other people like, he— they have to say this. It was like, but in that moment Before the call in my head that I was like, I need to hear him say my nickname for me to think this is like what's going on.

Yeah.

And then, and no one had ever done that. And then like years later, it's like the first thing he said. He was like, I don't know, she's calling you some weird name. I don't really get it, blah, blah, blah. And you could tell he almost didn't want to say it because he thought it was so strange. Yeah.

Or like, am I about to offend her?

I know, right? He's like, I don't know why she's calling you Butch. I don't know. And I'm like, you know, So it just was validating. It just felt like, okay, um, maybe she is still around me. Maybe she, you know, is still there in some sense. And just to hear from her again, it felt like that too. Like hearing from an old friend.

Yeah. Yeah. I think what, I think what the, the reason that these kinds of things don't, that there's like a lot of controversy over these things is because it's just not tangible. Right. Like we, and it's all. It's also, um, like, subjective. You're just, you're just going off what people are telling you. You know, you can't— you can tell me, or even the people who are having these, you know, visioning experiences, it's none of— no one else can see it. And so you're just having to believe what somebody else is saying. But you have so many examples and experiences that you've seen that it's like, how— like, this has to be, you know. And so many other people's stories too. I had watched, uh, podcast that Oprah did with some people talking about like near-death experiences.

I know, I saw it too.

And it's just like, those are the things that I'm like, this— how can you not just like— it's there. Like, the evidence is there. Like, people are telling you, you know, what they're seeing. I know, I know that you did a video on, uh, Dr. Mary Neal. That— in that, that whole experience is just mind-boggling, right? Um, yeah, her—

I mean, when they're— when their brain is dead and they're not getting oxygen, and I mean She was underwater for what, 20 minutes? 20 minutes? Yeah, 20 minutes. Like, anyone who's a— anyone, any nurse listening, you know you can't be underwater for 20 minutes and be alive. Yeah, right, period.

You know, you should have full brain function and remember. I mean, during that time.

Yeah, yeah. Imagine, like, I always think about if that was not me underwater but me trying to save someone who was underwater, like, as a nurse, I'd be like, oh God, this is not like a save her, this is like just get the dead body out of the water. Like, I wouldn't be thinking we're gonna Bring them back, right? Let alone come back and be fully recovered and have a fucking— yeah, a whole, a whole thing about an afterlife.

Yeah.

At the end of the day, I always say, like, even envisioning— like, I don't care what it means. What— because to me, it's like, even if it is just biological to, like, make us feel better, make us feel comforted, cool. Yeah, that our body is even doing that for us.

I would rather feel that than—

Great. Like, how amazing that we have a body That is comforting us at the end of life. Like if everyone's like, it's just, it's like, okay, I'll take that too. I'll take it too.

Well, thank you so much for this. This was, this was a treat, um, as always to chat with you. Uh, I just love the work that you're doing. Um, I think it's, it really is amazing. And I think that it's, um, great for people, nurses, not nurses, whatever, to just see your journey, see the work that you're putting out, um, whether that's something that they would like to also, you know, follow in your footsteps to do for themselves. Or just you know educate themselves if they have family members or loved ones who are in the dying process. It's it's it's so important, and it's something that needs to be talked about more.

So thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. It's been fun.

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