Nurses, Have an Idea to Improve Healthcare? You Can Build It at HLTH—Here's How (With Rebecca Love and Shannon Lunn)

Welcome to Club Nurse. I'm Colton Lord, your host. By you being here today, it shows me that you are someone who wants to learn, grow, laugh, connect, and just let your emotions flow. We are here to share real stories and hear real life experiences from real people. You are not alone in this, and Club Nurse is here to show you that. Don't forget to follow the show and share today's episode with someone you love. Now let's dive into today's conversation. Welcome back to Club Nurse, everybody. My name is Colton, your host of this podcast. I have some really amazing guests here today. I'm super excited for them to share what they've got going on. I think this is stuff that is really beneficial to the nursing community and everybody needs to be listening here. So I have with me Rebecca Love and Shannon Lund. Rebecca, if you don't mind just introducing yourself first, who you are, what you do in the nursing world, and kind of let us know.

Uh, Colton, thanks so much for having me. I'm really excited to be on Club Nurse. My name's Rebecca Love. I serve in my, uh, regular job as the Chief Clinical Officer for QuantiMed. Dr. Riviera AI, but I am the founder of Nurse Approved. And why we're here to talk to you today is about the future of nursing, getting involved at one of the biggest healthcare conferences and leading the first hackathon makeathon in the country. That's really going to redefine what nursing looks like to the future of healthcare and the profession. So super excited to be with you. And I'll turn it over to Shannon Lund, the incredible nurse with the long nose ones. Hey guys, I'm Shannon.

So work as my, my day job as a manager in pediatrics at the University of Minnesota. Prior to that, worked bedside and as a clinical research nurse, also worked with Rebecca with Nurse Approved. So working to bring a group of nurses to participate in the hackathon and some nurse-founded, nurse-led companies to exhibit at Health, which we'll talk to you about now.

Yeah, amazing. I'm super excited to talk about it. So I actually, I was at Health last year. I know it was, it was so crazy. Like so many people there. It was my first time there. I was kind of there helping out nurse.org with their social media. Um, walking around like the nurse innovators area, super cool to see like the presence of nurses there and all that nurses are doing. They're in their entrepreneurial journeys. So if you guys don't mind, if you don't mind just sharing with the audience, what is HEALTH? I think it's kind of newer, right, that nurses are kind of being integrated into, into HEALTH. So share with us what it is and why people are going to HEALTH.

Colton, you are absolutely right. It's not a new conference. It's actually been a conference that's been around for decades as one of the leading healthcare conferences around innovation and entrepreneurship and the newest cutting ideas that basically intersect between the hospital system, the payer system, as well as your investors. community that all comes together. But just for generations, nurses just hadn't really been involved. I had had the fortune of attending HELP for the past few years. And really what happened was a couple years ago, nurses started to speak up on social, like, we'd love to go to this conference, but we can't afford the tickets. Like, where is nurse representation? And we would go to this conference and everybody, this was right during and after the pandemic, everybody was talking about the nursing workforce, but there were few, if any, nurses on stage and in the audience that were there to have that conversation. So after nurses started to ping about this, I put a post out on social saying, you know what, this is exactly the challenges we face as a profession. The major decision makers are meeting in rooms where we are still absent from and are determining the narrative around which we follow in nursing, and we must change that. And to the credibility of health, the CEO Rich Garfo called me and said, Rebecca, we saw your post. I didn't even know nurses could be innovators. Can you bring, you have 4 weeks, like bring 6 nurse-founded companies. I'll give you space on the floor to exhibit and we'll see where it goes from here. That was a year ago. That was so successful. We returned to Vive, which is their sister conference, later that year with 30 nurse-founded companies. And then we've now entered into a 3-year partnership where Health has said, hey, this is so fantastic. Like, we're going to give an exact space of nurse-led innovation and focus on the 4 of Health. And this year, though, we're going to bring a hackathon makeathon to help nurses really get their ideas into reality. And Shannon, behind the scenes, has really been working expertly exponentially to bring in and help make sure that these nurses who show up here, because it can't just be nurses that don't have a business that just have an idea, not for the hackathon, to come and exhibit, but they have to really be a company that can scale alongside healthcare and then really show what does nurse innovators and what are they solving and their companies really solving for to work with health systems and payers to solve it. And Shannon, any, anything else I missed?

Yeah, and I tell you, when people enter the Nurses Pavilion at Health, like something just like clicks in them, like changes that, like they enter and they're like, this is what I've been waiting for. Like, this is the place. Like, these are the solutions. These nurses have this frontline experience that just brings out like the innovations that they create. It's like no other that you see on that show floor. Like this Nurse Pavilion, it stands out like no other. And when people come and see it, it's just really something special. The number of people that come in there and are like, this is what I've been waiting for. It's just, it's pretty special. Yeah.

It's really, I remember it's really inspiring. And like I said, I had no idea what to expect going to Health last year. I was like, okay. I remember nurse.org just kind of asked if I'd be willing to go handle their socials. And even just like, it was like so colorful in like the nurse pavilion area. All the nurses were just so excited, had so much knowledge in their specific expertise. And really what it made me realize was nurses everywhere have these ideas. We are the ones that are on the front lines, as they say, you know, being with the patients every day, seeing the shortcomings in healthcare. And so I think it's a great way for nurses to just see like, wow, there really is a space for us in, in this world of entrepreneurship and innovation, if that's something that we wish to do. And I think more nurses need to see that, which is what I love that you guys are both doing, just getting the word out there, showing nurses that you can, you know, bring these ideas to fruition if, if you just put in the work and you, you, you want to. So kind of explain to us, I know that you, correct me if I'm wrong, Rebecca, but you've kind of been the front runner of this Nurse Hackathon. And kind of getting this out there. Explain to us what that even is and what, like, what's the benefit of somebody doing these hackathons?

Yes. You know, our first one really happened back in 2016 over at Northeastern when we launched the first Nurse Innovation Entrepreneurship Movement to really drive nurses forward. If you could just put nurses in a room where they could identify the problems that they have and then give them the freedom to actually solve it, it just, the light bulb went off. Everybody else is developing all these solutions. Colton, you've been at the bedside all for generations, if not the last few decades especially. solutions were invented that we're always told that they were gonna create less work for us, right? But in reality, most often, especially in the tech world recently, all those solutions often created more work for nurses because of just where we sit in healthcare, right? And so it didn't matter that it trickled down to the nurse or it didn't work well for the nurse. But now those are actually catching up with us and leading to some of the biggest burnout that we're feeling at the bedside, right? It's just constantly more technology that creates more work for us and less time with our patients that's driven us away. So the idea of this hackathon, makeathon at Health is something that is probably an event that I have been waiting for to do with this kind of level of resource that we've never been able to do, which is we're bringing in 3D printers, designers, engineers, architects that are going to base— and all the tools that you need to take— if you've ever scribbled down an idea on a piece of paper that was like, oh my gosh, I really should develop a better clip for this or a clamp for this or a suction tube, or I should really create a better zipper on something, or hey, I've been using tape and thumb depressors to make this device to better hold the IV tubing in a way, blah, blah, blah. We've all done it, right? We're MacGyvering every day at the bedside, but we just have these ideas and they stay as ideas. So what we want to do at this event, and I'll turn it over to Shannon to explain a little bit more about it, is we want nurses who've ever scribbled that piece of paper on, who've sat there and thought, God, if I could just redesign the colonoscopy bag so that it would not explode on us when patients are, you know, going into the shower, right? We all have these ideas. But nobody ever got together and gave us the tape and everything to do that. And that is what's going to happen at this event. It is going to allow you— where, as opposed to forming, proposing problems and forming teams, we're really hoping a lot of these nurses are coming with an idea that they already know is a problem and there is no solution on the market. And we're going to get them a prototype to put in front of a team of judges. But Shannon, tell them more about how this event's going to run so that people can actually visualize. Like, I'm sure that it's a little nerve-wracking.

Yeah, so the day is going to kind of— first of the day, so we have a nurses' breakfast. So everyone's going to come participate in this nurses' breakfast. Then we're going to go over to the hackathon. Rebecca, you're going to give a talk right off the bat to get us ready to go. Solventem and Vitatech are the sponsors of this hackathon. And so we're going to come together and first off, like, bring our solutions together at, you know, nurses will join tables, join teams, talk about the problems that we're facing, talk about ideas that we have for solutions. And then What Solventum and Vitatech are doing is they're bringing all these engineers and design experts. And so what you can do is you can take that sketch that you have or that thing you scribbled on the napkin during your shift and work with these engineers. One of the people that are coming from Solventum has like 150 patents, created a lot of the wound care products that we use on the bedside, even your phone, the adhesive that puts the screen protector on your phone, that person created that adhesive. Incredible engineers that are coming to join and to help create these these solutions with you, and the really special thing about this is that all of the IP or the intellectual property that comes out of the hackathon is nurses. So that means that you own those innovations like coming out of it. So you can go and you can patent that or create a company, and so it really can honestly like. Change your life and really introduce you to kind of the business side of healthcare and what it takes to really bring, you know, something from a problem to a prototype to a solution that can really change healthcare. And so after these products are created, we prototype, you know, whether it's from material that Solventum is bringing, they're bringing all kinds of things you can build and create your solutions, or whether it's 3D printed and, you know, you name it, we Bring it out, present it, um, and then we have judges rounding and then they'll, they'll decide on the winners. And so we have some pretty cool prizes along, along with it.

So how does it work? Explain to us exactly when, when the nurses gather for the hackathon, how does it work? Do you, are you choosing your own? Are you calling them teams? Are you choosing your, however it works? Are you choosing your own? Is it randomly? Uh, is it just like you're all like thrown into a room collaborating and then that's how you, how you figure it out? Or how, how does that work? Yeah.

And why don't you take it? Like, I wanna hear how you explain it.

Yeah.

So, So the beauty of a hackathon is like, it's kind of messy. Like, it's, you come into a room and like, people are honestly a little afraid at first. They're like, I don't know what I'm doing. What is this hackathon? So you sit down at these tables, which ultimately become your team. And so what starts as like perfect strangers from anyone, then you start talking about all these problems that you have at the bedside. And, you know, start coming up with, okay, what are our biggest problems? And like, how could we, who has ideas for like how we could actually solve this and like putting our minds together and what come out of that discussion when you put nurses in a room full, you know, of each other and just start talking about these massive problems that you all have and like, how, how could we actually fix it? Is, it's pretty, pretty incredible.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's, there's no shortcomings of issues in nursing, that is for sure. And healthcare in general. Um, so I can imagine just like the energy in the room when the nurses just start talking and in this specific hackathon, is it, it's all nurses or is there other healthcare providers that are also collaborating or is this specifically for nurses, what you guys are doing?

So you do want— we actually had several physicians reach out and said, can I come? Because actually the product that I'm using is nurses are using it all the time, right? Because the honest, the physicians are sort of on the things, but they want to come. So we've said open it up. The best hackathons are people with different backgrounds coming together and creating solutions. So you just have to come to Health. You just have to attend Health. That is, it's part of your ticket price. And the great thing about the ticket price for Health is it's normally $3,500 for an individual ticket, which is way out there for nurses. Like we can't afford that. So they have created an actual code and coupon code for $1,500. For nurses to attend, which I know still sounds expensive, but that's Sunday through Wednesday and all your food, all the events. This isn't like your typical nursing conference. At Health, every single event, every single stage is on the exhibit floor. So once you get a ticket, it's all your meals, it's all your invitations, it's all your entrances. And this event kicks off right at the beginning on Monday to set the stage for the rest of the week, which means that you're going to come have these ideas and then you're going to have the next 3 days to continue networking, building, and learning In the conference that honestly teaches us things that we've never known as nurses, like why should we talk business, finance, strategy? What is a pitch deck? How have these nurses started their companies and learning from them? And this is what I think, Colton, what has been so exhausting in my career is showing up and constantly people are figuring out and talking about nursing without engaging us directly. And we're told as nurses, just go to a conference with nurses. And I'm like, that's what we've done for generations. And it's kept us in a hierarchical society that really we only determine layers within ourselves, but not layers within healthcare. And if we can rebrand and create new opportunities for nurses, that they're seen for the intelligence and the knowledge that they have. And I fundamentally believe the only way we're going to fix healthcare is to actually engage nurses, because they're the ones who actually know where the bottlenecks are. And I can't keep dealing with these strategists and these people at the top level that's like, oh, at a very high level, we need to deal with burnout. And you're like, burnout's a symptom, it's not That's not the problem we're solving, right? Like, there's other issues that are. So, Colton, that's what's getting us so fired up. And we're so excited that Nurse— you guys are going to be there with us with Club Nurse and recording this and documenting it and doing all these things. Because I think that this— we've run hackathons now with nurses in nursing settings for the last decade. This is the first time we're taking it to an environment really that is with all of healthcare and to put nurses front and center in those spaces. Yeah.

Yeah, I think that the— I, I think you paint a really good picture of, like I said, from my experience of going to Health last year. And I think that people, people need to realize just literally just how much is there, even outside of the Nursing Pavilion. Just, it's so enriching and you learn so many things and you just— it's, it's very inspiring to see all these people and all these innovations happening. And I remember just like, you have so much freedom to go to all these different things. I remember, I mean, there was even, you know, people there like top names Of like John Legend was there speaking and Lance Bass and Halle Berry, like just talking and, you know, collaborating as well with healthcare. And I just, I just found that, that so fascinating. And if you guys kind of go back to the hackathon, can we talk about— so last year I, I was able to get in there for like a minute to kind of, uh, see how it was, how it was going. But do you, are you able to talk on the, the, like the winners from last year, what they were coming up with and how, how that works? Is it like a first, second, third place? And what do they get from that if they do like get the top prize? Like, what is there, like, that they get out of that?

Several incredible ones. So one of the nurses came up with an AI product at the bedside that basically was an independent translator, right? And they had an idea to do these things because, you know this, you're standing at the bedside, you can't get care. I mean, there's funny skits on this on all the TV shows, right? Now, the reality is, is they were so successful with it that one of the judges happened to be within a company that was really focused already on AI transcription. So those nurses have gone on to do some consulting with that company because they recognized that those ones were ahead. We had other nurses, their top-winning team came up with a basically a virtual nurse at the bedside that was an avatar to deal with patient falls that would basically stand next to the bed and say, look at— no, do not move, right? Because we know we can't run nurses in there all the time. So now, although that company is not moving forward, the founders of that team have all been incredible nurse innovators that took these ideas back with them further stimulated in their own companies, got other meetings out of it because people were so impressed with the way that they had thought about a combination of solutions along those lines. So these ones were really focused— last year's hackathon was sort of focused a little bit more on AI. What we also have on this one is although AI is very important. I mean, I work in it every single day. The reality is, is that tactile solutions are really important. So we've seen nurses like Mick Hopkins, for example, who was a nurse who identified basically that the way that he was collecting blood at the bedside was giving a whole bunch of false positives on sepsis, right? And we have other nurses who had come from Mayo who had developed basically a line stripping device because, you know, the clots that would form in the stripping of devices, and we were always using the back of a pen, right? And so So this one we wanted to bring forward with a combination of tech, but really all of those incredible things that at the bedside were, you know, using those. And so, Colton, the top 3 winning teams, to your point, it comes into teams, and we did an audience award, are going forward and we're building out entire packages for who they're going to meet, what those teams get to do, the coaching that's going to happen, and awards that can set them up for further meetings to see, one, if they want to start a company with their idea and take it on. Or to introduce them to the people that can help change their careers. And as Shannon said, a hackathon changed my entire life. When I went to a hackathon in 2016, that was the event that made me feel as a nurse, I could finally change the world. And that is what I think is the most powerful. And Shannon, talk to that just a little bit about what you've seen with the nurses on that.

Yeah, and I think so the important thing I think to highlight is that at that pavilion of all these nurse innovators, Most of those companies have all started from a hackathon. Those nurses have taken their innovation, taken their ideas, whether they've won or not. Like you might not have gotten first, second, or third, but you created this idea. And the beauty is you can still run with it. You can still create a company. And a lot of those companies that are there exhibiting now at the largest healthcare innovation conference in the world were started from a hackathon. And some of those companies, like I think of, of M7 and, you know, they have turned their company, I mean, like post-Series A funding, like just unbelievable success with some of these, these nurse-founded, founded companies. Yeah.

I think it's the, really, it's the, it's the networking and just getting your, your brain kind of switching gears to just to think more as, you know, innovating way. Like, like you're saying, even if you're not leaving there with like a first place prize from the hackathon, it's, it's just the fact of getting in the room with these people, it really does. And I don't wanna sound like so like cliché, but it really does change the way you're thinking and the way you're looking at healthcare. And I think that that's really important for nurses. Uh, let's kind of touch on the nursing pavilion area. First of all, when is Health this year? Is it this year or next year? Uh, how do people get a, a booth at, at Health if they are already established? How does that exactly work? And what is, what is the benefit for that, even if you're not doing the hackathon of being in a booth in the nursing pavilion?

Yeah, so for people that want to exhibit at HEALTH, reach out to me. I can help you get set up to exhibit with us. For nurses that want to attend, there's a discount code, and this is just attending without exhibiting. So it's H25_NursesRock! If you're registering and you select RN, it will automatically populate, but that's the code you can use when you're registering for HEALTH to To exhibit. And what did I miss from, from that? Any—

Yeah, no, Colton, I think it's— and Jenny did a great job. And I think so what happens is if you have a company, um, and you're ready, and you're ready to talk to hospital executives, you're ready to raise funds, you are ready to talk to payers and really get your ideas out there, and you can scale, and you can— you have— and you're ready to dive into a 6-week program that we launched with Nurse Approved that teaches you to get ready, right? Because you have a booth, 2 chairs, 2 tickets, And a TV screen. That's basically your prompt along those lines. But the reality is, is you have to be prepared to have the business conversation, and most nurses are not. And that's what we really put a lot of resources behind to get nurses ready, because we recognize that we need to rebrand and change the narrative on how nurses speak. We can't just speak to I think, I feel, and I believe, because we're just dismissed, right? We need to speak to strategy, finance, P&Ls, MVPs, all of those things, the ROI on your product and how you're going to change it to get ready. I would tell you every single nurse company that is going to exhibit in the nurses pavilion, they are going there. One of their two leads that is the nurse is going to serve as a mentor at that hackathon because they're going to be there to say, "Look, we've lived, we've walked this, we've experienced this. Like we're going to tell you like how you got to get your product ready to be there." So it exposes them along those lines. And then in addition, there the rest of the week, like we have as she said Sunday is a nurses day that they have. There's lots of conversations. We're doing the nurse pavilion. breakfast. We do the nurse hackathon. We're going, and there's going to be a nurses reception that's being sponsored by some of the biggest companies in healthcare as well. And the truth is, is we have only room for about 400 nurses in the hackathon or those to attend. So what I would say to you guys is, if you're really excited about this, get there. In my opinion, every school of nursing should be sending a group of nursing students to attend this event, right? Every single chief nursing officer should be sending some of their nursing leadership to understand Wait a second, what is going on? Because the reality is, is we have to change this culture. And what happens is, you said it, Colton, right? Going there, suddenly you are being introduced to the way people are talking about healthcare from some of the biggest names from across health Hollywood to the biggest healthcare companies in the world are showing up here talking about where the future of healthcare is going. And when they run in and talk to a nurse, like we— I'll never forget, in walked the chief information officer of one of the biggest hospital systems in the United States. And he showed up and he said exactly what Shannon said, which Oh my God, of all the solutions, this is what I've been looking for. I've been looking for solutions that address the nursing crisis because that's the biggest challenge at our hospital. What are the problems that you guys are seeing and what are the solutions that you've been building? Because the reality is, is they already are decided on a lot of the AI companies that they're utilizing, the products that are coming over their revenue cycle management. But what they don't have is the solutions that nurses are saying, this is what's breaking, this is what's harming patients, and this Yeah. Yeah.

I literally have goosebumps just listening to you talk about that. Cause it's just true. And I think, I literally think about it in the sense of, if you think about a code in a hospital, you can't run those without a nurse. It's the same thing in this situation. You can't, you can innovate all you want. You can have all these, these advances in technology, but without, you know, the nurses are the ones there handling the patients, which is the whole point of healthcare. I think it's just, it's so important to have that representation there. So I really applaud you both for, for doing that. For helping to blaze that trail and get nurses in the conversation. Just to kind of go back to the Nurses Pavilion as well, I remember that, you know, there was so many things, there were so many nurses there from authors to people who were, you know, were giving us better ways to pad the rails for people having, patients having seizures, to people talking about, you know, CPR and nurse advocacy if you're like in legal trouble. Like there were so many just different things, nurses using AI to help So was there, was there anything else that we missed that we didn't talk about, about the hackathon, about the Nurse Pavilion, about Health that we missed that you wanted to make sure that we get out there for the audience to, to hear? And to add on to that, um, where is Health?

Is it—

it's in Vegas, correct? Is it there every year?

October 19th through the 22nd in Las Vegas. Shannon, what last things do you want to share? And then I'll, I'll wrap it up for you on that. Yeah, so I just want to thank everyone for joining us.

Yeah, I think, you know, at the event you touched on, you know, the companies that came there. And I think the other thing is the successes that came out of that. Like you talked about, the author was there, she sold 600 copies of her books to a chief nursing officer that wanted to send it to all of the nurses at their hospital.

And to add on to that, sorry, not to interrupt you, but to add on to that, and I don't, you know, just I think through her networking was able to have, she was just at nurse camp and her books were in like the welcome, you know, so these things, it's a ripple effect. And I believe that it's things like just getting into places like this that just start that, you know, even if it just made her believe in herself, oh, maybe I can do a little bit more. And it just like keeps, keeps going on. So continue. I'm sorry.

Exactly. Yeah. And nurses are, you know, getting, getting their funding rounds through here. Nurses are partnering with hospitals coming out of this. Rebecca, you probably have some more, more stories as well. It's just, it's incredible, the success, the connections, the things that people are coming out of from these.

It's not— Shannon, you did a great job because it's not not just the businesses of the nurses who show up, of who they are and what they become after these events just by showing and exhibiting, but also nurses who attend. Several nurses that just attended met companies there that they were hired on to be their chief nursing officers. The reality about this conference, what I think is the most powerful, is that it changes who you are and what you can become in a blink of an eye. And what I mean by that is often as nurses, we don't bet on ourselves, we don't invest in ourselves. We're thinking to ourselves, I'm sure nurses are going, there is no way I am I have $1,500 to spend on this. But I'm thinking to myself, what else are you gonna spend it on? If you're not gonna invest in yourself to get there, to change your life, you're probably spending $1,500 on coffee a year. But if you could spend $1,500 in 4 days that could change who you are, where you decide to go to school, what you study, who you know, who's gonna hire you, who's gonna give you an opportunity to be seen, heard, and believed in in a way that all of a sudden your network goes from knowing 1 to knowing 1,000 nurses who, I swear to God, the one thing we say every single time about this event. Is a rising tide raises all boats. The more nurses who have success, the more success we will have as a profession. Everyone who is here should reach through and grab another nurse and bring them forward so they can be successful. There is more than enough success for everybody, but for some reason in nursing, we have a limited mindset. We eat our young. We don't prompt others. We don't open doors. This event is about doing all of that. And if you've been looking for that community, if you've been looking for somebody who is going to say, hey, I know everybody's telling you no, but I am telling you yes. Yes, you can do this. This is where you need to go. Because, I mean, Shannon and I, we make no money off this. We don't get paid for this. I've never paid myself a cent off of these events. This is about who we're going to be as a profession in the future. And it's time that more of us open the doors and welcome as many nurses in as possible, as opposed to invite only and locking you out because you don't have the right degree, the right title, or the right pedigree. And I am tired of that because no matter who you are, if you believe you can, irregardless of your degree, your background, where you came from, you can accomplish when you are put into a room with people who can make that happen for you. So if you've thought, I need to change something, I need to do something, I am unhappy, I am telling you this is an invitation to you to come and join us at Health. Because if one thing, if one thing changes and that is just your mindset, Your whole future will change with it. So Colton, that's what I wanted to share.

I am so excited. Mic drop, mic drop, mic drop.

That's the—

yes, that's exactly it. And to add on to that, I mean, if for anyone listening, if you've been— we've all been guilty of sitting at the nurses station complaining and going on about all these things that could be different. Like, this is your opportunity to get in there, use your voice. And just like we were saying, even if you are a little bit timid of getting into the hackathon or getting into the pavilion, like, just being there And just soaking it in, getting your toes wet is just all you really need to, you know, you never know what's going to spark just by, just by being there. And like I said, it could really, it could really change your life. So I appreciate you both so much. You already told us where we could buy tickets to, to attend. I know, where do we find you on socials? Are you guys active on, on promoting these things? How can people find you if they're looking for more, more on this?

Shannon, take it away.

LinkedIn is the place. So message us on LinkedIn to sign up for help. We say health, but it's H-L-T-H is how it's spelled. So if you look that up, that's where you, you register. If you are interested in exhibiting, uh, have questions about attending, look us up on LinkedIn. That's the, the best place to, to find us.

Look up Nurse Approved on LinkedIn, you guys. Otherwise, message me or Shannon directly. Um, but Nurse Approved, check out our website nurseapproved.health. Um, we'll learn just more about the things that have happened and why we fought so hard to do what we're doing. And you guys, I can't wait to meet you. And just know that I hope you come and and that what you see is going to do more for the profession of nursing than sitting back and wondering if this idea ever could have been something.

That's right. That's right. All right. Well, we'll see everybody at health, right?

I hope so. Can't wait to see you there, Colton.

Of course. Thank you both. From the bottom of my heart, I wanted to thank you for being here at Club Nurse. I hope you gained something valuable from today's episode. And if you did, remember to share this episode with someone that you love. Follow me on socials at Nurse Daddies or Colton Lord 17, and be sure to follow nurse.org to stay informed with all of the hottest healthcare topics. Until next time, take care of yourself the way you take care of everyone else. Love ya.

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