Embracing Miracles: Inner Child Healing and Emotional Growth with Jennifer Hill

Hello everybody and welcome to the Spiritual Journey Podcast. My name is Nimish Radi and I'm your host. I always love by just saying thank you, start by saying thank you. I feel so very blessed with this podcast. I feel blessed with just how many people it gets to and the messages that I get on a weekly basis and the impact the podcast is having. This is my way of giving back. Whatever comes through, I'll share. And I feel so, so, so very blessed. with the reach of this podcast. So thank you for everyone that supported. Thank you for everyone that messages. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. My name is Nimesh. Most people call me Nims. I'm an Akashic record reader, Akashic trainer, podcast host, podcast creator, as well as a spiritual coach and mentor. And right now I feel like we're going through so much and I get to guide people to be their truly authentic selves. I love what I get to do. I know that there's a lot of intense energy right now and we'll talk about it on this, in this episode, I'm sure. All of my advice could be just be present. Be present. Know that you are important. The other beautiful benefit of this podcast is I get to interview some amazing, amazing people. And I'm excited to have Jennifer Hill on this podcast. Jennifer, I'd love for you to introduce yourself and let people know what you're about.

Thank you so much, Nims. It's such a pleasure to be with you and your audience. For any of you who I haven't met or had the pleasure of interacting with, I'm Jennifer K. Hill. It has been my privilege and honor to transform and transmute from being a recovering jerk to now somebody who travels the world and loves to talk about and share how we can crack the code of human connection. I had built and sold my first company in 2018, and that was what I call the 1-2-3 punch year because sold the company, which was of course a great, wonderful thing that happened. Went through divorce and got diagnosed as being on the spectrum all within 6 months. So that was my little hello there midlife opportunity. And post that, I've now developed a technology company. My dream, my gift is being able to connect people. And my intention by the time I die is to connect a billion people meaningfully with themselves and others. So that's our vision and our purpose with OptiMatch, OM.app, our company. As well as everything I do, whether it's in the personal coaching I do, my own podcast regarding consciousness. I literally wake up every day and I say, universe, please use me. Let me see the world through your eyes. Let me taste the world through your lips. Let me speak the world through your mouth. Let me hear the world through your ears and let me feel the world through your touch. And let me be of service to humanity and look for the good in myself and everyone who I come in contact with. So that's just a quick little synopsis about me.

Wow. Beautiful, beautiful. Recovering jerk. I don't think I've heard that before. I'm like, wait, hold on. What's that? So, well, yeah, I mean, and your awakening, I mean, I really believe awakening is a lifetime thing, but it does feel like those 6 months were an intense period, which, yeah, the universe definitely took you on a journey.

You know, the universe is taking us all on a journey, as you and I were joking about before the show began. I had the honor of being at Deepak Chopra's Sages and Scientists event in Boston, and we were in hysterics. One of the last sessions of the last day was one called Are We Alone? I think you can actually find it for free on the Sages and Scientists site. They streamed the whole event, and it was all these top scientists and philosophers and people from MIT and Harvard. And I think it was the guy from Harvard at the end, this doctor who said, well, for all we know, we could be some other scientist experiment in their petri dish where they're wearing a white coat and just messing around with us.

Yeah.

So just the same way we do it with our own experiments. So whether there's God, whether there's consciousness, whether this is all just some simulated computer experiment or other sort of experiment, our goal is to surrender and to fully participate to the best of our ability. And to, as one of my teachers, I'm a big devotee of Kabbalah among many other spiritual disciplines. But as one of my teachers, David Guillaume, always tells me, He said, the only true free will we have in every moment is the opportunity to choose to react or respond when something triggers us. And I was actually just listening to a little podcast that David did right before this, where somebody he was interviewing with was talking about, I think it was like DBT. And I remember D stood for to dismiss. Could we dismiss the messenger and understand that every heartache, every hardship, every betrayal or thing that seemingly goes wrong in our lives lives is not something happening to us, but it's happening for us. And if we could dismiss the messenger and let go of that and trust that whatever it is is coming from the divine, it makes such a difference. Like I was sharing with Nims right before the show that in the last 24 hours, I had my own opportunity for growth. And you know those nights where you're up from like 2 AM to 5 AM and you can't sleep? And I was actually just going through the process and taking myself through this, like, could I simply welcome that this happened? Could I allow that this happened? Could I release it? Would I release it? And when would I release it? And that's a method called the Sedona Method. And I love using that because sometimes we take it so personally, right? Someone does something to us, right? It's always to us. And what if someone did something else for us? And what I like to do is a technique I also learned from David, which is Replacing the word, the person's name, like say it's my husband I'm upset with, it wasn't, but let's just say instead of saying Yehuda did this, that you actually replace the word with the person's name with the light. So the light did this, the light bailed on their appointment, the light broke up with me, the light did this. And then it kind of shifts it on its head and brings a little bit more play and fun to it.

I love it. I love this so much of what you said that I just want to comment on. It's just, You know, we all are. Sometimes we take life so seriously, right? And, you know, everyone is playing a role. So anyone that's caused you pain, emotional pain, whatever pain, ultimately you have a contract with them to expand. And so they're actually playing the role that you asked them to. And it's easy when you take a step out and just become that. Just imagine yourself in that petri dish. It's just— Maybe life doesn't have to be as serious. Maybe we don't always have to be in victim mode. We can just be in a student, right? We can just be, just, just be. Everything that happened, I mean, people on podcasts hear me say often, everything that happens to you does serve you in some kind of way. It's happening for you.

Yeah.

And the best way to kind of look at it, I don't like people looking at the past, but if you look at your most expansive periods, your most painful periods, and really ask, how much did you grow? What did you learn from that period? I think a lot of times we realize that actually we grow most through that pain. And I feel like the paradigm may shift where we can grow just as much with love. It doesn't always have to be pain. But historically, that's kind of what it's been. But even your comment about reaction and response, it's just the work that we do, if we can do like really strong self-care, meditation, time in nature, What that does, it helps us find balance inside. Humanly, when we're attacked, when somebody says something, we typically, our response is to react. But when we can breathe, when we're present, and we can just pause before we react, then we can choose to respond. When we respond, we choose from more of a place of love. Or it could be any place, right? But we choose to respond. And from there, you are more centered and actually you can have much more of an experience. I love that. I love the practice, the pause, you know, kind of choosing to respond rather than react is something I've been teaching for years. So I love, love, love it. So we were talking about the current energy and kind of just the journey that everybody's on right now. And it feels like—

Yeah.

The mass consciousness, everybody's going through something, right? And we were talking, every conversation I have, somebody's going through something. And I'm just, I'd love for you to kind of talk about what you feel is happening energetically on the planet right now and what you, some of the conversations you've been having.

Nims, it's funny when I feel into that energy, it almost like makes me tear up a little bit because I personally have struggled, whether it's autism, being highly sensitive, whatever you might want to call it. Sometimes I find it just overwhelming just to be in the energy of everybody. I remember I had a dream coach in 2020, right at the apex of COVID and I was writing a book at the time called 101 Spiritual Tools for Uncertain Times. And my dream coach put me into a dream. And by put me into a dream, you do a special technique where you say, dear higher self, please drop me into the consciousness. And at that time, I really wanted to write something that would be valuable for people. So I said, please drop me into the consciousness of humanity. And Nims, I remember for 24 hours, I couldn't get out of bed. I was just crippled.

Wow.

Overwhelming pain. And I literally could barely even get up the energy to text my dream coach and be like, get me out. Not going to survive this. I know I'm trying to tap into the collective consciousness. And so now that I've, 4 years later, I've had a lot more experience in holding a healthy energetic boundaries of myself and others. And yet wherever I go, I just deeply feel the pain that everybody's in right now. As we were talking right before we got on the show, I like to think of it as a roller coaster. And you and I were joking that this roller coaster didn't just start last week or 3 months ago.

It's been going on for a while here.

Yeah, it's been going on. Yet I think collectively what I really feel is that, you know how you can see a roller coaster and you know that there's a huge freaking precipice. That as the Chinese, what did the Chinese say? It's both obstacle or opportunity or whatever it is, chaos or opportunity. And I feel like we're at the precipice of humanity, of both chaos and opportunity. And it all really depends on the way that we're going to see this proverbial drop that humanity is going to go through. I think for some of us, we're going to see it as exhilarating and the elevation of the consciousness of humanity. globally and universally. And I think for a lot of us, there's fear, and it's okay. And my recommendation to everybody, and this is my own practice, I will never ask somebody to do something I don't do myself, is to talk to those fears, fear that there might be separation, fear that there might be death, fear of loss, fear of betrayal, whatever it is. Could we ask those fears, what are they here to teach us? So could we just drop in and say, fear, fear of the unknown, what are you here to teach me? Fear of losing loved ones. I know so many people lost millions and millions, 7 million people, I think, died during COVID And I think that something is going to happen that is going to cataclysmically shift the course of humanity in the next several months. And I think that whether or not we're consciously aware of it or not, I think that we feel it in the field. You know, I do a lot of work with the Global Coherence Pulse and HeartMath. And there's this saying that Rollin McCraty and Teresa Collins always use, which is what we feed the field matters. And so I think that to the best of our ability, you know, we have to put our own oxygen masks on first, put our own seatbelts on first, though every day to actively participate and check in and say, what am I feeding the field today? Am I feeding the field fear? It's okay if you are, just acknowledge it and be with it? And then maybe even go a step further and ask yourself, is this what I'm committed to feeding the field? And that's where for me, resilience has made all the difference in the world, both from an autistic standpoint and just a being a human being standpoint, whether you're neurotypical, neurodiverse, or otherwise. I love using heart-focused breathing by HeartMath to constantly put myself in a state of coherence when I notice that my amygdala is getting triggered and I'm not going to survive this and fight or flight. Then I just, in that moment, if I can bring my awareness to it, I drop into my heart. I breathe slowly and deeply into the count of 5 and out to the count of 5 and imagine breathing the feeling of calm in and out right through the center of my heart or chest. And it's not perfect, but I'd say about 9 times out of 10, if I can just bring my consciousness to that moment, then that allows me to shift out of reactivity into responsiveness. Wow.

So, so powerful. I love it. Yeah, we were talking about the roller coaster analogy, right? And, you know, the interesting thing energetically, I mean, we just passed recently the super full moon in. The energy and the emotions at that time that was going on the planet was just overwhelming. I just, I've never felt such a powerful emotion and it's just, And what I feel is happening, everyone can feel the roller coaster and change is scary, right? Change is scary for, because we want to know what that change is. Everyone says, I love change, but everybody loves change if they know what the change is going to be. But if they don't know what the change is going to be, it's kind of, but what if, and some people love roller coasters, right? And some people don't. And it's, you know, some people love change and some people don't. But again, I love the way you say it just. Having an honest conversation with yourself and truly being present, there's so much power in that. There's just, yeah, I'd love, again, I put you on the spot, but I'd love for you to just take us through that heart process, that breathing exercise you talked about.

Of course, yeah. So this is heart-focused breathing by HeartMath. They've been studying heart-brain coherence for 40 years now. You can find all sorts of wonderful free data on there. The 3rd Saturday of every month, I help put something on called the Global Coherence Pulse, where we have lovely leaders come in with music, and we just pulse the planet with love, you know, the 3rd Saturday of every month. So this is going to be akin to that. And I will tell you and your listeners and viewers here, Nims, that what I love most about this technique is that you can do it with your eyes open or closed. So in order to become regular with it, I recommend the first handful of times you do it to practice it with your eyes closed. So if any of you are listening while you're driving or In a position that's not safe for you to close your eyes, please do keep them open. This technique is equally effective either way, and I'll go ahead and take us through it now. So depending on where you're at with your eyes open or closed, go ahead and begin to focus your attention in the area of your heart or chest. Imagine that your breath is flowing in And out, right through the center of your heart or chest, as though your heart itself is doing the breathing. Breathing a little slower and a little deeper than usual, finding an easy rhythm that's comfortable for you. As you continue slow, deep, heart-focused breaths, perhaps see if you can breathe into the count of 5 and out to the count of 5. Continuing to breathe slowly and deeply, envisioning the breath Flowing in and out right through the center of your heart or chest. We're now going to add the feeling of calm. I invite you to remember feeling that sensation, that feeling of calm, and see if you can breathe in that feeling of calm right through the center of your heart or chest. And as you exhale, I invite you to pulse the field with this feeling of calm. Again, breathing in right through the center of your heart or chest, feeling that feeling of calm deeply, viscerally, vividly. And again, on the exhalation, Pulsing the field, thinking of anybody who you're holding in your heart and perhaps sending them calm as well. And one more time, breathing slowly and deeply in right through the center of your heart or chest, breathing in calm. And once more, radiating and pulsing that calm to everything and everyone around you. And with your eyes closed, go ahead and begin to wiggle your fingers and your toes. Whenever you're ready, go ahead and open your eyes. How are you feeling, Nims?

Love it. It's such a, such a beautiful process. I mean, prana, the air, is just so powerful. So I love it. Thank you. Thank you for taking us through that.

Yeah, my pleasure. And if I may add something, it's great to do this and listen to a show and do it though, as I coach clients on this and so forth, I do encourage you to create some sort of mnemonic or reminder to drop into heart-focused breathing. When I was trained in this by the HeartMath trainer who trained me, she had great suggestions. She said, use every time you walk through a doorway, As a catalyst to drop into heart-focused breathing. And it's such a good way because the more it becomes second nature for us, then the easier it is to drop in and draw upon it the next time you're feeling triggered or frustrated. And that technique has helped me on so many occasions to go from saying something I might have regretted to myself or somebody else, or reacting rather than responding. And the reason for that is actually physiological. A lot of people don't realize that we have these 3 parts of our brain, the amygdala, which I mentioned, the reptilian brain, the midbrain, the mammalian brain. Are you safe? Am I like you? Can I trust you? And then the higher brain, the executive functioning part of the brain that allows for creativity, love, compassion. And most people don't realize that the higher brains can't function until the lower brain feels safe. So most of the time when you're fighting with somebody else, You're fighting from that lower part of the brain and you actually can't even access your higher brain function for compassion, consideration, love, whatever it might be. And that's why I love this and a myriad of other techniques, because the next time we fight with somebody, Nims, if instead of seeing them as an upset 40-year-old or 70-year-old or 25-year-old, could we see them as an upset 4-year-old?

Yeah.

And that we ourselves are really an upset 4 or 5-year-old that really just hasn't had our own needs met. And then if so, how can we self-soothe? HeartMath being one of the tools I use.

Wow. Wow. I love it because, you know, rationally we know that, you know, when we react with anger, when we react with emotion, with fear, it's something that maybe we shouldn't do. But actually having a technique to be present is so powerful, which is why I practice the pause by walking through the doorway. I love it. I love it because I always encourage people Especially now to take time just to feel the energy and the power and the emotion around them, their guides, feel how supported they are. Maybe using that same technique of walking through a doorway and just every time you do it, just feel how supported you are. Because I really feel right now we're getting more support than we ever have. But because we're getting lost in the emotion, it's not, we don't always feel it. We always, because of that. That primary brain, the one that you can't access the higher function unless you find that calmness, the breathing. I love it. I just, that explains so much in a different perspective, in a different way. So, you know, if we go back to the roller coaster metaphor, and we talked a little bit about trust and letting go before we started recording this podcast, and I agree so much. It's just that We know the change is coming. We know that there's so much that whatever, whatever we hold dear may change. And it's so easy to get lost in what's happening on the planet rather than what's happening to self. What's your advice and what would your guidance be to those that are getting consumed by what's happening on the planet? What can we do to truly just trust in whatever's coming next? And just be.

The first thing that's coming to my mind here, Nims, is a digital detox. I made a deal with the universe, God, whatever you choose to call source about 8 years ago. And I'm like, wow, when did I get to be so happy and joyful? Oh yeah, when I stopped watching the news and when I scroll only like 10 to 20 minutes a week. And so one of the techniques that I did is I made a deal with the universe. I said, universe, here's the deal. I trust that I'm going to receive exactly the right messages in exactly the right timing, and I'm going to stop reading the news and watching the news. And I ask that any information that's important for me to know, that you deliver it to me through a trusted resource, and that you give me the wisdom to know it's coming from the divine. And so that's one huge aspect of trust is unfortunately there's this idea of fearmongering. And our emotions, good or bad, feed the field as we were just talking about. And unfortunately, the more that at an individual and a collective level that we cultivate unconsciously, by the way, I'm not saying we're doing this intentionally, that we cultivate this fear or chaos or lack of understanding or safety, the more that's going to pulse the entire field and shift the energetic frequency of the planet. The more that we can truly trust and surrender and ask, what is in my highest and best good? And really get curious, what is the lesson for all of this? Then that's a whole new level of trust. And another thing that I try to do, not every Saturday, but a lot of Saturdays, is I turn my phone off for 4 to 8 hours every Saturday just to spend time. Pick whatever day of the week you want. I know for all of us it's different depending on our work schedules. And if 4 to 8 hours seems like a little much, then try it for 20 minutes or 30 minutes. Think of how many of us don't spend 30 minutes without our phone. You know, it's funny.

It's crazy.

Exactly. Last Saturday I was in Miami and I was so happy, Nims. I love spending time quietly by myself with nobody around. And I had been in the middle of 3 weeks straight of business travel. So on Saturday was the first day I'd had in 3 weeks of just bliss and silence. I turned— I flew that day. Soon as I landed, got to the hotel, turned my phone off, just spent quiet time in contemplation, reading, enjoying the ocean. And then the funniest thing is, you know how you think to yourself, that's awesome. I loved that so much. I wish I had more of that. I also give you a cautionary tale about this. Be careful what we wish for, because the very next day I had gotten a new cell phone in Miami before I was flying back to Europe. And my husband's like, honey, you should really activate the cell phone. I was like, are you sure I should activate it before I'm about to travel internationally for 24 hours? And my husband's like, Says, yeah, honey, it's all good. And it was hilarious, Nims. I had no cell phone for 24 hours. I started to turn it on, and then it's like, this will take 13 hours, and I had 2 hours to get to the airport. And so, uh, be careful what you wish for, because that's the other thing that lots of us don't realize, is that whatever we're thinking we want, the universe is like, oh, you want to have no cell phone? Let me give you no cell phone for 24 hours while you're traveling back. I love it.

And I do feel the universe, our guides have jokes too. I think they like having fun with us. Just why not, right?

Yeah, you said you want it, let me give it to you. I know one of my favorite things I teach people is to just like the next time something quote unquote shitty or something that you wish didn't happen happens, I like to say to myself, oh universe, you're so cute. You almost got me there. And I imagine like fist bumping the universe, like you almost pulled the wool over my eyes on that one. But I see what you did there.

I just, I mean, I love how the universe and our guides work. It's just, they want to expand us, right? And sometimes they, you know, expanding us with some humor, their humor, is all part of it, right? But I love what you said, just taking a digital detox. I haven't watched the news in such a long time and it's, I talk a lot about going through rebirth, and I feel like a lot of us have gone through rebirth and being conscious what we feed ourselves with, what we watch, who we talk to, you know, what we listen to, what we feed ourselves food-wise feels so important right now. And so taking the detox from the news, what are you going to miss? I love it. So powerful. And then it's really interesting, you know, the thought of switching the phone off for 4 to 8 hours. Shouldn't be that scary. It really shouldn't, right? It's like, well, what's going to happen? What's going to happen in 4 hours if you switch your phone off? And I don't know if I— I love spending time on my own. It just— when there's too many people around, I have found that it does affect my energy. It does affect— because we're all empaths, right? And being comfortable with spending time on your own and enjoying it. I feel is really important right now. It's because if you don't, if you struggle to spend time on your own, for me, that means there's stuff inside you that you haven't released. And it means that you're ready to heal something. So I feel that's an important thing. Maybe, you know, if you're listening, why don't you commit to taking the time out for you? Find, if you can't find a full day, then Find a few hours where you can just be with you. If you can be in nature, if you can be in water, that's so powerful. It feels so important right now to be present. And if we can all take that time to be present, maybe we start realizing that whatever's happening externally isn't as crazy as we thought it was.

Yeah, it's, it's that freedom because I feel like we're addicted as a culture, as a society, we're addicted to talking, we're addicted to scrolling, we're addicted to to sex and drugs and alcohol. We all have an addiction in some way or another. And yet, what if we could self-soothe? That's why inner child work is one of my favorite tools. I do inner child work every day. When I had the experience that I had in the last 24 hours that occurred as jarring, I actually used another technique by a woman named Alison Armstrong that she calls Noble Healing. And I did it for my inner child today. So I will put my right hand on my heart, my left hand on my abdomen. I talk to my inner child in a very loving, kind way. She prefers to be called sweetheart. It's very important to find out how your inner child wants to be addressed. If you call her sweetie, it's DEFCON 4, and she will start to throw a tantrum. But if you call her sweetheart, she will engage with you. So I'm like, sweetheart, how are you feeling? And she was feeling sad and angry and frustrated. And so in Allison's form of nonviolent Noble Healing, she says that you can apologize on behalf of somebody else in proxy. So often with one of my accountability buddies who I actually learned this with in Alison's course about 8 or 9 years ago, Jules and I will do it for one another, you know, if we ever need it, but I can also do it for myself and so can you. And you would just say, I am so sorry, blank. I am so sorry that when XYZ happened that you felt Betrayed, abused, mistrusted, abandoned, whatever the feelings are. I am so sorry, and I love and accept you fully. And it was so powerful. I have to tell you, Nims. By the time I got done with a couple of those, and then I finished with Ho'oponopono, which is the ancient Hawaiian prayer of I apologize, please forgive me, thank you for being in my life, said I'm a love you. Where I went from not being able to sleep and being angst and filled with frustration to just doing that. And then all of a sudden, I was able to call the person that I had felt confusion around and frustration and just to have the most loving, kind, beautiful conversation with no judgment, but just unconditional love for myself and the other person.

So powerful. I mean, we wrap ourselves around things that we feel have happened to us, right? And You know, sometimes it involves other people and we kind of get emotional about it when actually the other person may not even know they've triggered us or done— because it's just, we just, we just, everyone's going through so much and it's just sometimes realizing that it isn't that serious. And you mentioned inner child and inner child, inner child work is really so important in terms of, because it is that inner child that gets emotionally hurt, that gets triggered, that gets— And just sitting with your inner child and giving your inner child a name is such an important, beautiful thing. I just, when you started with inner child, I just always recommend just imagining your, a younger version of you, pick her age, it doesn't matter what age. Imagine him or her standing in front of you and just giving a big hug. Sometimes all our inner child wants is just attention and love and letting him or her know how important she is and how valuable and how Such a beautiful way to start the day or start, if you're doing some inner child work, is just to give your inner child some love. So beautiful. Give your inner child a name.

I'll hug myself. I'll do this. I'll say, sweetheart, I love you. I'll say, you are loved and cherished and adored and accepted. And half the reason that most of us have upsets as adults or even young adults is because our inner child hasn't been attended to. It's like, where was I? I was somewhere lately. Oh, I was reading a friend of mine's book. Todd Churches wrote a great book called Visual Leadership. And that's the book I was reading on the beach the other day when I was spending time in silence. And Todd talks about in the book how if you asked a grade of kindergartners, you know, class of kindergartners, how many of you want to draw or can draw? 100% of the hands in the room go up. But if you ask a group of leadership executives, how many of you can draw or want to draw, 2 hands might go up in a team of like C-suite executives. And it's like we are this natural outpouring of creativity and self-expression. Yet as we become normalized, right, in society, then we often suppress our natural gifts, our trust, our intuition, our creative abilities. And I think by really tapping in and giving the freedom of self-expression, Then it gives you another way to express. I think a lot of us are pissed off and angry at the world because we're not self-expressed. We're like, we're like the whack-a-mole. It's like one of us comes up and it's like, bad. No, get back down there. And it's like we're playing whack-a-mole with ourselves and life's bad emotion. You get back in your hole emotion.

It's like, I love it. I love it. And the interesting thing is this, we're We're a soul having a human experience, but sometimes we don't want to have the experience. I love the analogy. It's just, if we could just introduce some fun into our lives, some laughter, some belly laughs, some, as you said, some drawing, you know, just be that child. You know, what do I just, yeah, life could be so much more simpler. I feel like we make it so serious. And look, I get it. There is a lot of emotion out there and it's just, How much do we get caught up in it, right? How much can we just be present and let go and just realize that we're on this roller coaster? And the biggest thing for me is accepting that you chose to be here as a soul, right? You can question your existence and why you're going through certain things. But for me, when I, many years ago, when I had the conversation to say, you know what, I chose to be here. Everything I've experienced is part of my journey. And it's not no one else's fault. It's me. I chose to, and I'm learning. I'm expanding. That conversation within a child, with self, everything starts with you. And it's just, it's that trust. And I really do feel that it's a time now where we do have to spend time with ourselves. We do have to, we have to trust and we have to have those honest conversations, but it doesn't have to be all serious. Have, go to the park, go for a swim, go, Giggle with some friends, watch something funny. Just be. I mean, why is life so serious? I don't get it. I don't get it. It's not meant to be. It's meant to be fun. I mean, this conversation, have lots of conscious conversations. Why not? It's just beautiful, right?

And I'm going to piggyback on that, Nims, to just touch on what you were saying. I think one of the reasons that we all get frustrated is it's not to say that you have to sweep the sadness under the rug, One of the things that I think I've learned a lot in the last several years that I work with clients on, that my teachers have taught me, is to choose the emotion. When you get angry, don't suppress it. That turns into illness in the body. You know, there's so many great books about that. Dr. Bradley Nelson has written books about that and many others. But what if when you feel angry, choose to feel angry? I choose to feel angry. Yell, express yourself, paint, whatever it takes. Feel that emotion. They say that it really only takes 90 seconds for an emotion to be fully processed in the body. And yet if we try to stop or suppress that emotion in the middle of it, then that can create greater physical harm and mental emotional harm than ever before. So the next time you feel angry, choose to feel angry. Say, I choose to feel angry. The moment we resist something, it prolongs it. In fact, Viktor Frankl from Man's Search for Meaning has a really great technique that has been life-changing for me called paradoxical thinking that is part of his logotherapy. And for me, sometimes I've struggled with insomnia. And one of the things that really helped is in the book, Viktor kind of jokes about it. He is like, well, for my insomnia patients, I tell them to choose not sleeping. Oh, I hope I never go to sleep again. I hope I stay awake the next 100 years. You know, you tell yourself that emotionally, and then the moment you choose the thing the way it is and you drop the resistance, you'll often fall right back asleep or you'll be able to move through it rather than the more we resist something, the more we get more of it.

Wow. And I love that book, Man's Search for Meaning. It's just one of my favorites. It's just when I, I mean, I read it many years ago, just changing my perspective on things. It was just, yeah, I remember certain things about it. It's just so, so powerful. And actually what you said is also true. Feel the emotions. So important. Because our programming says, you know, if we're feeling anger, push it down. If we're feeling, you know, like men are not meant to cry. What is all that about? You know, it's just like, it's just so crazy. It's just, again, we're humans, we're souls having a human experience. So we're meant to have the experience. Of course, you know, If you feel the anger inside, don't take it out on somebody else. Be angry. I love it. And just a lot of the inner child work we have to do is because at some point our child couldn't feel an emotion, was asked to not feel it, or couldn't feel it, or suppress something. And it's just, make it fun. I love it. Make everything fun. If you're feeling angry, be angry. If you want to cry, my God, crying is so spiritual. It's such a spiritual release. If you're feeling emotion, Feel the emotion. And I remember my mentor, Sidra, whenever she used to get triggered, she'd get excited. It's like, oh my God, I'm triggered. It's just because a trigger, if somebody's making you feel angry or you're feeling, actually a trigger is an opportunity for you to heal something inside that you've been holding on to. So if I get triggered by something, I'll always ask, when was the first time I felt like this? Because the universe is trying to teach you something. So if somebody triggers you, then it's probably related to something that's happening inside you that maybe happened years ago.

Yeah.

So for me, it's like, okay, when was the first time I felt like this? What was I going through? Just integrating that lesson and letting go is so powerful. It's just, everything's a lesson. Everything, if we could just take everything to be a fun lesson, and we're just students. The day I stop learning, the day I stop expanding, it's probably the day I'm going to leave this realm because I'm here to learn, right? So, so, so beautiful. I could talk to you about this stuff for hours. So what else? I mean, on your journey, I'd love for you to share, because you've clearly been through a lot on your journey. I'd love for you to share a little more about kind of what you've done to be so present, to be— you clearly have learned lots of external knowledge and you've had some amazing teachers. But I also feel that you found that peace, that peace to be present. Your energy, your vibration, when it comes across to me, is just, I feel at peace. And any advice you have to kind of find that peace inside and be present, I'd love for you to share more about your journey.

Thank you, Nims. As I started off jokingly, but not jokingly saying at the beginning of the show, hi, I'm Jennifer K. Hill. I'm a recovering jerk. Nice Nice to meet you. You know, it is a journey. That's what it is. And I didn't think I would make it, Nims. Really, I didn't. When I was— I left high school at 16 to go straight to college, tried to take my own life 3 times between 18 to 21, hated myself, absolutely hated myself, which then manifested in me not only being very unkind to myself, but then that outwardly expressed itself in the world with how I treated my loved ones and the people around me. And I always encourage people going back to the inner child thing. When you see somebody who's upset or angry, remember, if they're that way, then there's probably great deep pain in them. So that's why I do a lot of work right now with C-suite executives and so forth to help them with, you know, their own inner child work and so forth. And so I began in when I was 23, I had somebody have a come-to-Jesus moment with me and say, You're a nasty thing. You're one of the most powerful women I've ever met, but you're using your powers to destroy the people around you. And that really was a wake-up call for me 20 years ago. And I knew I had the capacity for great light and great dark. And the next decade after that, from 23 to 33, was literally like falling around in the dark, trying to find my way of like, well, what's up? What's down? Where am I? What does all of this even mean? And through a series of finding the right teachers, the right spiritual disciplines, I've begun to really deepen my practice for about 12 years now. I've meditated every single day, pray every day. I have a very robust practice. It's about 2 hours every morning. And so that includes often scanning an ancient spiritual text called the Zohar, looking for wisdom in that. That's what I was doing at 2:00 AM this morning when I was feeling frustrated, journaling, meditating, inner child work, gratitude lists. And I literally, not figuratively, have 183 tools that I use on any given day. And about 20 of those tools I use daily, but sometimes I rotate tools like Noble Healing I hadn't used on myself until this morning for months, you know, or Sedona Method. Could you simply welcome? Could you allow? Could you release? Would you release? When will you release? Great method by Hale Dwoskin, I think was his name. And, you know, these are all just different things that I always like to remind people, Nims, have a spiritual tool belt. That's the only thing. The analogy I always often use is Batman. Batman's one of the few superheroes who is not superhuman, but what makes him a superhero is his super tool belt. And that would be one of my greatest recommendations for your listeners, your viewers, is cultivate your own super tool belt. Tool belt, and one of the biggest things we're talking about when we're in that amygdala fight or flight, I'm not going to survive this mode. Sometimes we don't even have the consciousness or the ability to drop in and say, "Well, what was that tool?" So I actually recommend that people keep either as a screensaver on their phone or as maybe a little piece of paper in your wallet your emergency top three favorite tools. So one of my go-tos in the moment. Is definitely heart-focused breathing. Another one that I use in the moment, Sedona Method, really helps me. And then there's probably a third one that I would rotate in and out depending on what I need, or inner child work, of course. But just having what are the top 3 tools that when you're feeling like you're not, you can't breathe, you're so angry, so frustrated, betrayed, whatever it is, could you just go to one of those tools And use it to calm your nervous system, regulate it. And then that's where we become unstoppable. And I want to be very clear to everybody is that we're not perfect. You shouldn't expect yourself or anybody else to be perfect. In fact, in a ceremony I was in a couple of years ago, one of the most beautiful downloads I ever got was everyone is doing the best they can in every moment. And that includes you. That's another one of my tools. That I use when I'm having a hard time. You know, sometimes you can't even hear it. Like last night, my husband said, honey, are they doing the best they can?

No.

So as much as I like to say that, it depends on kind of where you're at on the spectrum of upset, you know. But going through and just asking yourself and having these tools— and the only difference is not that you're never going to get upset again. No matter how enlightened somebody I know is Or how peaceful somebody may seem to be. We're human. We all have that point. It could be our family, our job, our children that is the trigger point for us. And the only difference is how quickly can you be resilient and bounce back like a rubber band? Where when you have these tools, my experience is rather than going through this for days, months, weeks, years, however long, decades of anger, animosity, or frustration, Could we shift it in a matter of minutes, hours, or days instead? And that's the measure of success for me is not did I get angry? In fact, I'll pull it up for you. There's one of my favorite Kabbalistic ones dumping. It's called Dumping Depression by the 72 Names of God. So big fan of Kabbalah, and this is one of their. They have these things called the 72 Names. of God, which are 72 ancient names that you can meditate on that can help shift your consciousness. And this one's called Dumping Depression. You can find it on Tumblr. It says, life is fraught with obstacles and tests that sometimes knock us off our feet. When, when we do lose our balance and fall flat on our faces, it's important to stand up again rather than sink into doubt and depression, and to dust ourselves off. And it goes on to say, ascending the spiritual ladder requires far more greatness and strength than conquering nations, building empires, or attaining great wealth. The negative forces, which are our ego, that dwell in the world use a 2-step plan against us. Step 1, they make us fall. Step 2, they keep us down through feelings of guilt and depression over our setbacks. So getting up again generates more spiritual light in the world than if we had never fallen in the first place. The fact that we fell is not what's important. True greatness lies in the act of rising again. So I always like to remind myself of that.

Wow. So, so powerful. And if I was to summarize this episode, a lot about it, a lot of it is about being present. But for me, a lot about it is feeling the emotion in and not getting stuck in it. Because we have to feel the emotion, right? It's just, if we push it down, it has to, we're like a volcano, it has to come up some way. So if we're feeling something and we push it away thinking we'll deal with it another time, then eventually it's going to come up in some kind of way. And if we can deal with it in the present moment and experience it, because why not? If you want to be angry, shout, go into, shout into your pillow, go into a park and just shout and scream. Why not? It's cathartic. It's really healing just to release that emotion and just, what's wrong with getting angry? What's wrong with getting emotional? What's wrong with being sad? As long as you don't stay there. And just, yeah, I love it. I love it. So Jennifer, I'd love for you to share for our listeners, if they wanted to reach out, if they wanted to work with you, what's the best way of doing that? What sort of services do you offer? I'd love for you to share.

Yeah, absolutely. So if you want to learn about the work we're doing in the world with human connection, you can go to om.app. And for free, you can go ahead and answer our matching questions and find out what your primary and secondary motivators are. And we offer that service to companies, to coaches use it, communities use it for intermatching people. But also, you'll get a free report on there for yourself of how you're motivated. In terms of working with me as a coach, the best way to reach out to me is either my personal website, Jennifer. Khill.com, or I encourage you to find me on LinkedIn. It's also a great place where I put a lot of my social, or Facebook. If you find me, it's Jennifer K. Hill, K as in kite, space, H-I-L-L. If you Google my name, it'll pull up pretty much everywhere, and happy to connect with people. I always love to be of service. On our own.app page, you can find a lot of other previous interviews we've done under the media appearances section.

Wow. I love the word Om. I mean, I grew up as a Hindu and it's just such a powerful, simple phrase. Om. It's just like, wow, such a resonance with that word. It's just, it's, yeah. Whenever I'm in silence, whenever I'm meditating, that's a powerful, yeah, I just love it. Just, I love the synchronicities of the universe. So as we close this episode out, Jennifer, I'd love for any final bits of advice. And also, I always love to ask any guests to kind of share maybe a couple of journal prompts to allow people to kind of go deeper on the topics we've covered. Is there anything that's in your heart? Please share.

Yeah. So in terms of journal prompts, I'm a big fan of journaling with your higher self in the universe. If you have a dream, I often will write my whole dream in the journal. And then I'll say, universe, higher self, please help me to understand the meaning of this dream. And I'll write. And what comes out is so deep and profound. Like the other day, I had a dream that I was being forced to eat darkness. And when I journaled with it later, I got a message that the darkness is a part of us. And the more that I can just allow it to exist rather than resisting it, the more freedom I would have. And that was what came out of that journal and dream entry. Another prompt that I would ask yourself is, what am I proud of myself for? What are the things I've done in my life that maybe nobody else will ever encourage me or ever ask me about, but things that I privately want to acknowledge myself for and cherish and appreciate myself for? And also reflecting on, you know, how could I have lived life better? I actually do that every single evening. I write down What am I proud of myself for? How I could have lived today better? And a couple of things that I'm grateful for. And in terms of anything that I would offer your listeners and your viewers, one of my other favorite topics I speak on when I'm not talking about resilience or human connection is miracles. I truly believe that there are more miracles than we could have ever imagined. And yet we look at the world through a perspective of fear, of loss, And I just finished my first ever Miracle Making Mastermind, and it was so much fun. We were all together for a year, and the miracles people had— one guy raised $2 million, another woman had a bestselling book. It was just so incredible. And one of the little itty-bitty secrets that I teach people in this class is write down the small miracles and the large miracles every day. And when we can acknowledge the little miracles, then we can appreciate the bigger miracles. You know, things like a flight landing, a flight taking off on time, sunshine, blue skies, the little— start with the teeny tiny little miracles, just little things that we might take for granted, having food to eat, clean water to drink. You can start with small little ones. And then what I've really found very clearly is that what we put our attention on expands. So the more— and I write down my miracles proactively throughout the day, though I know you can also write down a couple from the night before in the morning or at the end of every evening, write down a few miracles that you appreciate or synchronicities too, which I like to think of those as being intertwined. So my advice and recommendation for your audience would be to go out and to open your eyes to the miracles that are all around you so that no matter what this roller coaster of life throws at us or what twists and turns and upside down and backwards ways that we might go, That we're still present to the miracles. And I think that will ground ourselves in the certainty that we need to live our best lives.

Wow, I love it. I mean, I call it magic moments. It's just, I find that so many of us are waiting for this big flash in the sky, this big, massive miracle that's going to shift everything for us. And if we could truly just take in the smaller miracles and 100% journal them, what we're doing is we're asking the universe for more of those moments. And we're manifesting those moments because we're creating, we're acknowledging the miracles because there's so much to admire. It's like, what do you focus on? Do you focus on the pain or do you focus on the miracles? Just, I mean, I look out into the garden right now and nature's just so miraculous. There's just the sun, the water, and just there's so much to be grateful for. So I love it. Jennifer, I've loved having you on this podcast. I feel very, very blessed with this conversation. I'm sure it's going to help many people.

Thank you.

And sending you so much love and light. And thank you, thank you, thank you. I will include Jennifer's details in the show notes. So by all means, please reach out to her. She's a beautiful soul doing beautiful things. And I'm very grateful for you to be on this podcast. I'm sending so much love and light out to our listeners. Thank you, thank you, thank you. And Jennifer, I'm going to hand over to you to close us out.

What's that?

I'm going to hand over to you to close us out.

Ah, beautiful. If I had a wish, if I had a gift that I could give each and every one of you, it is to see your life anew in this coming week, in this coming month, in this coming year. Look for the good in yourself and everything around you and allow yourself to be shocked, awed, and surprised and delighted by all of the good that perhaps we missed before. Thank you.

Thank you.