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In this brief archival interview, Jim Penman recounts the origins of his business’s first flyer and the logo that later defined the franchise. He explains that in 1986, while mowing lawns and doing tree pruning at age 34, he distributed a simple flyer that generated strong customer response. The image on that flyer inspired the eventual graphical logo when the franchise was launched. The conversation also touches on his early, hazardous experiences with a chainsaw and the nostalgic framing of this material as a "rookie NBA card" of his business history.

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