[Bonus Episode] Talking Hormones With Dr. Anna Cabeca

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Oh, and it's essential. I mean, and too like everything we do to decrease cortisol is going to help us increase our oxytocin. And thinking even just like, hey, where could I laugh at myself in this situation? Just pausing and say, especially, you're out, you're about, you're driving. Where could I laugh at myself in this situation? Or where do I see love today? Asking those two questions, I mean, just helps you tune into that energy of love and oxytocin.

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An amazing subject with an incredible expert to give you actionable items that you can put into your life. Hey, it's JJ and welcome to Ask the Health Expert. It's our deep dive today and we're going to be talking hormones because we can never get enough of that. And I have my buddy, Dr. Anna Kabeca. She's the author of the Hormone fix and keto green 16 and the perfect person to be diving into hormones. She's known as the girlfriend doctor because she's just so approachable. As she likes to say, nothing is tmi and you'll see that as we get into some of this stuff today. And that's all I'm going to say about that. She's a triple board certified Emory University trained OB gyn and literally I knew her when she went through a really, really tragic experience in her own life that caused her to go into early menopause weight gain, hair loss, all sorts of stuff that made her go even deeper into learning how to heal. She impact went all around the world on a healing journey and came away empowered with this knowledge that she combined with medical training and research to create amazing results. And again, that's what you'll see in hormone fix and keto. Green16 and she is someone who, when I have questions on hormones, she's one of my favorite people to call. And you're gonna see today because we will be talking about a lot about oxytocin, which is something really, she's the only person I think I ever talk about oxytocin with on the show. And you're gonna see why it is so key, critical for you having a happy, healthy life. So I will be right back with Dr. Anna. So stay with me.

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Doctor Anna Kabeca. Welcome back. Super excited to have you with us.

I am thrilled to be here, jj. Thanks for having me.

Well, you're a crowd pleaser, my friend. So it's always fun to have you on the show because you have so much great information. And today I'd love to just, like, let's unpack hormones and really just start with. Let's go back to the basics, like hormones, sex hormones, and let's talk, you know, thyroid, insulin, cortisol, not just the sex hormones. And then estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, what, you know, why are they so important? What are they doing to our health? And then, you know, starting 35 and up, what the heck is happening?

You know? And it's a really good, good question because we talk about hormones all the time, and we really don't understand. And then there, you know, sometimes hormones get a bad rap, and sometimes they're your absolute life raft, you know, and all the. All these different things. But actually, our hormones are what gets us out of bed in the morning. It gives us the energy. These are tremendous, energetic molecules that work as messengers throughout our body. It's like living in a healthy community when everything's in balance, right? Someone's your back. They're encouraging you, they're supporting you, they're motivating you. You know, they're your biggest cheerleader. And every step along the way, we can look at hormones in this way, and especially when we look at. We talk a lot about thyroid hormone. We talk a lot about our sex hormones. And when it comes down to it, those are really our minor hormones and our major hormones that, you know, should get even more pressed now are these three main hormones that I like to talk about that when I. I studied hormones for throughout my career as an OB gyn. But when it really comes down to it, these three hormones are the most important, and that is insulin, cortisol, and absolute most important hormone of our body. Oxytocin, the love and bonding hormone. Not to be confused with oxycodone. Sometimes I get that, too.

I still want you to write this oxytocin solution book, I swear.

But it's coming.

It's coming. Okay, you say those are the most important. Let's dissect each one and why.

Yeah. So definitely when it. As we get older, most of our hormones are declining, but insulin and cortisol increase as we age. And these hormones are really you know, life saving. But they're pro inflammatory. So insulin is that hormone that responds to us when we eat a meal. Insulin is secreted to put glucose in its. You know, in its place, so to speak, use it or store it. And as we have been trained over time to eat three meals, three snacks, which no one listening to your show would ever do.

They wouldn't ever.

Right. Because that snacking creates insulin resistance.

And.

And as we get older, we naturally become more insulin resistant. And so glucose. Our cells become deaf to glucose. And more sugar in our body, more inflammation, more immune problems, more disease susceptibility, let alone diabetes, hypertension, heart disease, dementia, Alzheimer's, and the. And, you know, forget about our sex drive. Right? Libido's gone. You know, we have cravings and no willpower. I mean, that's the problem with elevated levels of insulin. That's how it shows up. And it's kind of funny. Jj, I know you'll love the story. So, you know, we talk about, you know, you're no longer dating, but when we were both dating, we talked about our dating. Now I just talk about my dating, but. And then ask your advice. So I was on a date the other day, and I. Nice gentleman, very successful, and he's been working with a trainer. So I'm like, oh, great. You know, tell me about that. And tell me about his, you know, functional exercises and hiit exercise. I'm like, oh, that's awesome. He goes, yeah, but I've been stagnant, you know, haven't been able to lose these 20 pounds that I want to lose. Well, well, what is your. You know. He said he's working with a nutritionist, too. I said, what's your nutritionist doing? Well, she has me on these, you know, three meals, three snacks.

Oh, my gosh.

Come on.

The 80s are calling. They want their diet back.

I know. And you know we're not supposed to lecture on a date, right?

I know. Oh, boy. The minute I heard that and you asked, I thought, oh, you just walked into it, Anna. You walked into it. What did you do?

I was like, I tried to bite my tongue. And I'm like, I'm sorry, but, you know, take it for a grain of salt. But look, this is just. Do 16 hours between dinner and breakfast, eat two meals a day, and no more snacking for you, big boy.

That's it.

And, you know.

Yeah. Was that the last date? The first date?

Possibly.

No more snacks for you, big boy.

No more snacks for you, big boy.

Oh, boy. Yikes. It's Been a wonder. I'm single. Yep, that's a tweetable. All right.

Well, seriously, that is a great tweetable. No more snacks for you, big boy.

Yes. So if you're getting ready to pick up a snack, just remember that, that little phrase there, that will just keep that in her brain.

Okay, so, but that is a game changing shift. And especially as we're older, we talk about women all the time. No more snacks. And men equally important. And recently there was a article published in one of our popular magazines that said, oh, this is how you should eat in menopause. And do you know they said three meals, three snacks. I went live it. I, you know, shared it with my community and my keto green community on Facebook and you know, just, you know, just ridiculous. There's no, there's no basis for that. And we know that doesn't work.

No, there is no basis. There's no science for this. You know what's so interesting? I remember I was reading, scrolling through the newsfeed and I saw, you know, it was the what what dietitians say you should eat before bed. And I thought, okay, this must be a joke. It must be nothing. Nothing. They must be saying nothing. No, they had all of their favorite bedtime snacks. I'm like, why are we snacking before bed? What are we doing here? That's the worst possible thing. If you're gonna, if you're gonna do anything, just get close the kitchen down after dinner. That's step one. We all know that it's the worst thing you can do is eat before bed. And then you mess up your growth hormone response and your blood sugar's up.

It's like, oh, and sleep and cortisol and you know, it is, it's, it's really amazing the recommendations that are being made without the science to back it up. And that snacking at bedtime is another one of those recommendations.

So, so insulin. It seems very unfair that insulin and cortisol go up as we age. But what's going on with cortisol?

So cortisol, the same thing. You know, it is our hormone that is designed to protect us first flight and fight responder in times of stress. And it is really a life saving hormone. Thank God we have it. But the problem is with chronic everyday stress, with post traumatic stress and PTSD and just with inflammation in our body. Cortisol is that natural anti inflammatory, but it's a catabolic hormone, meaning that it just breaks us down. It will rob Peter to pay Paul. It will save your Life by, you know, it will save your leg by taking your arms, so to speak, you know what I mean? And so this cortisol hormone is really essential. But when it goes up, it's acidifying to the body. And so part of the catabolic nature, it's to leech, you know, it will leach minerals from your body and it critical, critical responder. But over time, when our body has been constantly pushing out cortisol, what happens over time is that our area in our brain called the paraventricular nucleus or PVN for short, will suppress our adrenal gland production of cortisol. And so now you're in this stress continues, you know, this fight or flight response, this everyday trauma on, you know, these little bite sized pieces of trauma that we may experience every day, just when we watch the news, for instance. And your body is like shutting down that cortisol response. So you go from a high cortisol state to a artificially essentially suppressed cortisol state. And then inflammation tends to grow. And when we're in this state, when we're in this state it also affects another hormone, oxytocin, which naturally when oxytocin goes up, cortisol goes down. But when cortisol, the stress hormone is suppressed in this way, oxytocin is also suppressed. And so this adds to these feelings of disconnect, of like, I know I love you intellectually, I know I love you, but I don't feel love for you. I know I love my job, but I'm burnt out, I can't stand it anymore, you know, like, I don't want to go in, I don't want to face Monday mornings, you know, to go into work, I'm burnt out. Or relationships start to crumble and we start to be more isolated and depressed. And that's a result of this oxytocin hormone also being suppressed at the same time as cortisol. And so in many ways the biggest thing, life changing effects that we can have are by addressing these hormones. And I always say, you know, I went to med school to study estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, you know, and even dhea. But when it comes down to it and when it really want to improve our hormones and our sex hormones and our quality of life, we have to become more insulin sensitive, we have to manage our cortisol response and reset our circadian rhythm and we have to prioritize oxytocin in our life. The things that make us laugh.

Well, let's talk about that because honestly man, if There was ever a time when oxytocin's at an all time low. It's now, don't you think?

Oh, yeah.

So, so let's dig deeper into oxytocin. We actually, I think the only person I think I ever talk about oxytocin with on the show is you. So what would someone do? First of all, let's really talk about oxytocin and why we have it, what it does, and then what we can do in this disconnected, stressed out world right now to bring it back.

You know what's really beautiful about oxytocin? And it's a peptide hormone. It's actually one of the first hormones in abundance that we are surrounded by in, in the mom, in our mom's womb. So when we're about to be born, our mother is like her body is secreting oxytocin big time so that we have the natural contractions and we can, you know, the childbirth, so that childbirth occurs. Oxytocin is that huge. It's a huge hormone. It's this love and attachment hormone. It really is this love and attachment hormone, this connection hormone. And so for many women, like the first time we exposed many of us to exogenous oxytocin is pitocin. That is what we give as an obstetrician. We give it IV to moms in labor to help them birth, you know, to speed up labor, to help slow labor. And, and that's what we're naturally excreting ourselves when we're in labor, as well as when we're breastfeeding. And so here, just by design, and this is all the attachment studies, all the research shows that the, you know that especially in, in childhood, more essentially oxytocin, you're surrounded by the better adjusted, less addictions, the higher quality of life and relationships as we get older. And this attachment hormone is so critical for that early on. And so by touch, by massage, by caress, by love, by laughter, by giving. And these are things that increase oxytocin. And what we know is that this is, this is an issue of, of, of study and of science. Like how do you, how do you know really administration of high dose oxytocin, how does that affect a child? And as well, how do you know if you're not experiencing any of that oxytocin in childbirth, say from C section, how does that affect a child? But what we know is regardless of that, that touch, that attachment, that breastfeeding, that cuddling, that nurturing in early ages increases the quality, you know, Quality of relationships of, of our, of our children and well into adulthood for our entire life. So that's kind of an empathetic, an empathetic hormone.

Well, what happens if someone didn't get it early on?

So like that's in studies looking at the animal studies have looked at, which is really interesting. And I like the monkey studies that looked at. There was a study done where they're a monkey study where they had a soft like plush cuddly toy they could use or food and they would prefer the cuddly, they would prefer the affection, the cuddly toy, the cuddly plush object as opposed to food because it gave them some sense of comfort and nurturing. So what studies have shown in that case where there was no physical touch, there was no nurturing, there was isolation in these animal studies there's a sense of higher cortisol, more detachment, more depression. And so that's a really big, that's been a really big issue and a big concern. And that's why it's so important to have that to encourage the nurturing relationships early on as much as possible. And again, like with anything, you know, if we didn't have it, we can, knowing that can help us make up for it and look conscientiously into what nurturing activities. How can I increase oxytocin now in my life? Like what are things that I can do? Number one, reduce stress, meditate, pray, you know, do things that make you laugh, have fun, playfulness and encouraging, you know, healthy, healthy relationships, make all the difference in the world. And that increases that oxytocin, which is the most alkalinizing hormone in our body, where I said cortisol was acidifying. And actually the most acidifying hormone, oxytocin is opposite. It's the most alkalinizing, nourishing hormone in our body. And that makes us, that's that sense of feeling loved and connected. So even if we didn't have it in our childhood, understanding, okay, making oxytocin seeking behaviors a priority is important for that, that feeling, that sense of feeling belonging, feeling loved.

Is this something that can be measured or is it just something you just.

I don't know.

How else would you know if someone's low in it?

Yeah, I mean there is oxytocin blood tests, they're really hard. Cause it has to be fresh frozen and very few labs in the country that do oxytocin testing, but you can definitely do that. But again, it's very, you know, it's very hard and really there's quiz and I had an oxytocin quiz on my website. I'll have to get you that link, jj, but there are several questions that. That you can go through to see if you are high or low in oxytocin, as well as doing the blood test. So I'll definitely get you that link.

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Oh, and it's essential. I mean, and too like everything we do to decrease cortisol is going to help us increase our oxytocin. And thinking even just like, hey, where could I laugh at myself in this situation? Just pausing and say, especially, you're out, you're about, you're driving. Where could I laugh at myself in this situation? Or where do I see love today? Asking those two questions, I mean, just helps you tune in to that energy of, of love and oxytocin.

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It's so good. I will send you some as soon as they come out. So but just put it, like even just putting it by the toilet, like you're gonna wipe at some point during the day. Just put some java on there. Or you know, in the morning before you get out of bed, massage. Welcome. Wake up your feminine bits there. Say hello, good morning, vagina. And. And massage. Give it some love. I mean, because again, that is an important area. Women stop exercising because they have bladder leaks. They had. They stop having sex because they have discomfort. You know, between women having dryness, men having erectile issues. I mean, it's not. We can reverse both of Those things. And that is what is, is just, it's just life changing. And when we address these issues, you know, our quality of life improves.

Well, here's the good news then. The good news is you are giving everyone a freebie of Jilva. So to find out how you can get that and also to take your hormone toxicity quiz. And what will they find out by taking their hormone toxicity quiz?

So we all want to have a zero. We want to have no symptoms. So we'll be able to look and see. Well, how well are we doing? Because oftentimes, and I heard this from taking care of so many patients, thousands of patients is once they start, you know, start my program, Detox, get green, right? All these Keto Green things, they'll say, you know, Dr. Ann, I didn't realize how bad I was feeling until I started feeling good again. And so what gets measured gets managed. So you take this hormone toxicity quiz, follow, you know, these little lifestyle tweaks that we've talked about today, and then retake it in a month from now and just look and see, see, you know, the level of improvement. We typically see an 80 to 90% improvement in 30 days.

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Perfect. So these are so you're going to get when you go and I'll give. Here's the link is go to jjvirgin.com j u l v A that's Jilva. If you go there, when you go there, not if when you go there, you're going to get the hormone toxicity quiz and you will get an offer to be able to get free java. How awesome is that? So you will be able to get both those things. And I highly recommend, and we'll put over there as well information about your books too, because you definitely want to have Dr. Anna's books. The most recent is Keto Green 16 in your success library. She is my go to on hormones. And again, that'll be jjburgeon.com J U L B A and Dr. Anna, thank you so much for hanging out with me today. I think we'll need to start this as a regular thing.

I love it. Yes, absolutely. Thank you for having me.

All right. Thank you, hon. And stay with me. I'll be right back with a couple quick takeaways. All right. I want to remind you that you are going to want to get these freebies. You're going to want to take the hormone toxicity quiz and definitely get a sample of Jova. It is. She's getting minute away at so many of my events and it is always like the top favorite thing in the swag bag. And I loved her advice about keeping it in the bathroom so you remember to use it. It's just like putting the floss out by your toothbrush and putting your supplements there too so you remember to take them. Right? And I just wanted to give you a little takeaway because I think what she talked about here about oxytocin and connection just doesn't get enough airtime. And especially now with, you know, this last year of being so disconnected. This is really, really critical for our health. So just like you schedule in your exercise and you take time to make healthy meals, schedule in some joy. In fact, I'm going to bring my girlfriend Radha Agrawal on the show at some point here and she'll talk about joy because she's created a whole program to prescribe joy for everybody. But you know, that can be anything from doing some sound healing, some breath work, some meditation, shout out to my girlfriend Emily Fletcher of Ziva meditation. I go out and paddle on the water, do some stand up paddleboarding or pet my dog, hang out with my family. Think of those things that bring you joy and get a joyful activity into your your day every day. Because you deserve it. All right, if you have not subscribed yet, oh my gosh, you do not want to miss an episode, so go to subscribetoj.com it's that simple. Subscribe to JJ and remember to get those awesome freebies@jjvirgin.com Jova J U L V A See you next time. Foreign.

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