How to Reduce Oxidative Stress to Slow Aging and Protect Your Health with Dr. Joe Mercola

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Dr. Joe Mercola, welcome to the show. Super excited to have you with me today.

Hey, it's so great to be here with you, jj.

Yeah. We're going to dive into a topic that could be complicated, but I know that you're going to make the complicated very easy to understand. And we are going to be talking about oxidative stress today. So I want to dive in with that. And first of all, I'd love to know, like, why you got. First of all, what is it? What the heck is oxidative stress? And, you know, why are we. Why should we care? And how did you get interested in it in the first place? So let's start with what is it and how did you start diving into it?

Well, it's really one of the fundamental characteristics of aging. It really is why we age. And it causes consequences like inflammation and damage to your cell proteins, your membranes, and most importantly, your DNA. And when you get enough damage in your DNA, your telomere shortened and you just stop working, you hit the deck.

Let's. Let's break down telomeres for everybody.

Oh, yeah, sorry about the Telomeres are the end caps on chromosomes and there's a lot of people who believe that's the gin. That's the true biological aging clock. So the shorter your telomeres, the longer, the less likely you're going to live long.

Clearly then this is something we need to be concerned about because everybody listening, we want to de age, we don't want to do anything that's accelerating our aging here. Right. So then how are we creating more oxidative stress? What's going on?

Well, it's really some of the. Just two primary processes and I've written books around them and books to be published in the next two years. Actually, my Open Magnus will probably be written in a year and a half. I've got, it's like a thousand Pages now with 2000 references and it's not even half done, so. But you know, I go deep into the molecular biology, which I'm not going to.

It sounds like an encyclopedia set.

Yeah, it's gonna be good. I am just so jazzed about this. But anyway, I don't have to do anything.

All I ever have to do is read the stuff you send me and I'm totally good. So you're just my one stop shop now.

Yeah, there we go. So it, it boils down to two primary processes. One, you're eating the wrong foods is what you've been telling your people all along. And just follow what you're doing. And when you do that, as you and Mark Sisson has so widely popularized, you become metabolically flexible. You can burn fat as a primary fuel, unlike 85% of the US population. And when you do that, the reason you do that, then you can create these ketones which are four carbon fats, very short and water soluble, and they easily penetrate cell membranes and your brain and they can fill your brain. And then you don't have to use glucose as much. And when you burn glucose as a fuel, as 85% of people do, then you are creating excessive oxidative stress because you need some oxidative stress, otherwise known as reactive oxygen species. You need some. They're important biological signaling molecules. But if you have it too touch, that causes a problem and that causes the damage we referred to earlier. So that's the primary one. And I think your crowd has probably caught that covered really well. I've got a. I think we're doing an inner another interview about the new book I have, which, which, yes, takes it to the next level. But the foundation is you cannot the net. My other book is called Keto Fast. It comes out April 30th. But you cannot. You cannot engage in that process until you are metabolically flexible. It just will not work. So that's the foundation. You got to become metabolically flexible. And you've been teaching your crowd to do that for a long.

It's really. Is fantastic to look beyond. You know, we think of diet a lot in this community because people are wanting to lose weight. To me, that's just a symptom of, you know, your diet and everything else is not working well. And so let's really look at diet as reducing oxidative stress, improving health, and de. Aging you. So diet is. Is the biggie. And that's great because that's such an easy. Well, it's simple. Not easy should be easy, but it's a simple one to shift. What else?

The next one that almost everyone listening to this is in sure and utter denial is radio frequency exposures, otherwise known as emf. And they're in denial for two primary reasons. One is because of the incredible convenience. I mean, who wouldn't want the benefits of a cell phone and be able to hail Uber and. And have wireless on your notebooks and everything and all that benefits essentail. So we want the benefits. And the other factor, why we're in denial is that almost every health official and federal regulatory agency says it's safe and there's a reason for that. And you can get deep into the weeds among the reasons if you watch the movie Merchants of Doubt or if you read the book, which is even better, and it goes into how there's a incredible influence of industry on the. On the federal regulatory agencies, and they potentially own it. There's this routing door between them. And it's interesting because the mantra is that cell phones. This is the mantra in the book I'm writing that will be out either later this year or next year. And the mantra of that book is cell phones. Your cell phone are. Is indeed the cigarettes of the 21st century. And just like cigarettes, and everyone can remember this, everyone listening to this knows that the tobacco industry vehemently, vehemently denied that there was any connection between smoking and cancer. This. And get this, they were denying it, despite the federal regulatory agency saying that it causes cancer. The Surgeon General, the epa, the ftc, fda, they were all telling them. And even though they were telling them that three, it took 30 years for them because the industry created all this doubt and confusion that the science wasn't settled when Indeed, it was settled decades earlier that they were able to continue their craziness for another three decades. Well, we, we don't even have the federal regulatory agency saying it's dangerous. They're all aligned with industry. So it's going to be even longer and harder for people to understand the truth. And I just want you to have that as a framework to understand why the consensus is not around like it is about smoking being dangerous as EMFs are.

Yeah, well, I think everybody on this, this podcast can remember back to actually when they advertised that three out of five doctors recommended a specific brand of supplement or cigarettes. Remember that?

Oh, absolutely. Well, I, I wasn't getting JAMA as a print journal at that time because I think that was the 30s and 40s. I don't think I was born yet, but I don't, because they did. They stopped doing that.

Yeah, but I still remember seeing those, like everyone showing us those ads and I'm like, oh my gosh.

Yeah, but they were, they were printed.

But it's such a great, that is such a great analogy to look at this as the new, as the new smoking. And here's the thing. Easy to change your diet. This is not an easy. I'm sitting here with my cell phone sitting on the desk.

I know we have a short time, so I'll give you the two important take homes, but not before I'll tell you the other fact that you need to understand that will help you in grasp and understand and hopefully have the motivation to implement what I'm going to suggest. So that is that there is no question, no one listening to this and their doctor or any, any public health authority will deny that ionizing radiation like X rays and nuclear material and gamma rays when you're flying are dangerous. They cause DNA damage and will kill you prematurely. That is no question. That is undisputed. But what they're saying is that non ionizing radiation like your cell phone and microwave and WI fi doesn't cause that type of damage. And you know what, jj, they're right. It doesn't cause that damage. They have their longer frequencies. They have left less energy and less energy to break the covalent DNA bonds and, and cause the damage that way like X rays do. But what they do have is when we get back to the other thing we talked about is oxidative stress. They create this profound, and perhaps in most cases, in even more oxidative stress and exposure to the ionizing radiation when you fly or when you are having X rays or CT scans. So the way they do that is when you're exposed to EMFs, they activate a calcium channel in your cell membrane and that causes this release of calcium ions which are literally twenty to a hundred thousand times in higher concentration outside your cell than inside your cell. And say, well, you say, so what? Well, you know, what's calcium for? Calcium is an important component of building bones, but it also is a really important biological signaling molecule. And when you have this influx, high influx of calcium into the cell after being exposed to EMFs, like your wireless and wi fi and cell phones, then it combine, it causes a release of nitric oxide. And here's what I'll get with the chemistry. And superoxide, which are free radicals, they combine together to form another really toxic toxic molecule called peri Oxy nitrate that virtually none of your physicians and or, or understand or have ever even heard of. It let under you know what, know what it is, but it goes in and it can penetrate the nuclear membrane and cause the DNA damage, just like the X rays. And now we know the mechanism and you know, so essentially ionizing radiation X rays cause DNA damage. No dispute, your phone does not. But it causes the same DNA damage in a different mechanism them.

So what do we do? What do we do?

You know, I couldn't tell you what to do unless you were motivated to do it. It would be just a waste of time, right? You've got to be motivated. You got to understand this is the real deal. If I had three hours, I go into deep into the weeds and give you even more information. But I don't have that time. Read my book when it comes out in a year.

So that's great. Read my book when it comes out in a year. I know we were talking offline. We're going to have some kind of cool yet to be determined. But by the time this podcast is out, some there'll be some. You're going to give them something to get them started. We can't leave everyone hanging.

If you want to go minor deep into the weeds, you can go into a book. The best book out there now until Mike is published, is called the E the Tinfoil Guide to emf. And it's written by a friend of mine called Nicholas Pineau. He's got the best comprehensive resource at this point. But the simple things that you can implement, the two most powerful things you do is that you never, never, never, unless you have some biological emergency like your child's gonna, you know, need to be at a hospital or something, have your phone on your physical body unless it's in airplane mode. You cannot do that. Now there's a benefit of this. Your phone battery will last longer. And jj, your, your question now is to ask me, well, Joe, how long does your, how often do you charge your phone?

Okay, Joe, how often do you charge your phone?

I charge my phone once every 10 days. And that's not because I have a super battery. I just have a regular Android phone once every 10 days. Because if you're not, is in airplane mode, it's not generating electric using electricity. And you got to remember when you're charging your phone every day, you're plugging it into the wall, you're sucking up current power energy into your phone and you're causing that phone to. It's a, it's a literally essentially a cell phone tower in your home. You know, it, it, the, the, the, the radio frequency waves reach you at over 50ft and cause damage the closer you are to the phone. The worst it is. And if it's on your body, that's about as worst. The bad is what bad as you can get. And if you're holding it to your brain, well, it's only next to, you know, the brain. What does that matter, you know? No. So it's going to cause problems. And a lot of famous people have died from glioblastomas, these brain tumors, because they're hold to their phone. The most recent one was John McCain cell phone tumor glioblastoma, and it's a deadly tumor. No one survives that unless you're doing some really sophisticated things that Thomas, Thomas Seyfried does and, and Dominica Agostino and some other luminaries who understand, you know, how, how the metabolic biochemistry of mitochondria.

What else? Someone using their cell phone. Right. And the other one that absolutely freaks me out is seeing those little weird Bluetooth devices that people put in their ears. I've gotta imagine those are equally horrible.

They are. You know, you don't have to imagine it all because you can go to this really obscure website, it's called Amazon and you can purchase a device for 150. It's called acoustic. Just like the word acoustic and then a comm OM. So acoustic comm 2. It's about 150 and it will tell you, you turn it on, it will measure media frequencies from a few hundred megahertz to about three gigahertz or actually eight gigahertz. So that's the range that your cell phone and cell phone towers and wi fi operate at. And it can easily Tell you if this is an issue, if your blue tone is a problem, and you won't tell you yes or no, it will quantitatively assess the level of the frequency for you so you know just how dangerous it is.

All right, we will put that in the show notes, too. And what about. So, you know, I'm assuming we are all walking around with this damage. There's no way we're not. And is there a way to tell how much damage you have? Is there a way to, to measure this peroxy nitrate? Triton, can you tell?

How would you know? You want to say trait, but it is trite with an eye.

Yeah, I was looking at. It says trite here, but I was like, how is there a way to know how much damage you've done? And then is there a way to reverse it?

I only think there's research assays. They're not commercial assays. Maybe peroxy nitrite, but you can measure two dog, which is two deoxyguanine, which is a oxidized nucleotide in DNA, which essentially gives you that indirect information. So that's one way, you know, it doesn't matter because I, you know, you and I are in the same boat with respect to our, our health goals. It is really to optimize longevity and actually essentially reset that aging clock. And I, and that's a whole other book. That's, that's what I'm going to have out in two years.

You have so many books you have to write, Joe. I can't believe you have enough time to talk to me today.

This is, this is the wonderful. A thousand pages already with like 15, 1700. So I, I, it's, it's, it's basically half written now. So I know what, what's in the book. It's not like it's some fantasy dream I want to write. It's. This is being written as we speak every, every night I work on it, you know, and essential, it's essentially this book is telling you how you can reset the clock. We can't do it yet, but there's these mechanisms that are evolving with the Yamanaka factors and the Horvath clock and DNA methylation and getting, you know, basically resetting yourselves to pluripotent stem cells. It's just fascinating stuff.

Right now, right now, today, there's. If you've done damage with cell phones, which we all have, there's nothing you can do to reverse it.

Yeah, I think you can reverse it. I mean, but you can't reverse the Aging at this time, you can slow down, you can basically slam the brakes on aging, but you can't reverse it at this point in time.

Okay.

As far as I know, my review literature, and I could be wrong, but.

I'm counting on you to figure that one out, the reverse part. So I'm just going to throw that out there too.

Really excited about that. There's some incredible research going on. I mean, they got, they got the Nobel prize for, in 2012, Yamanaka did for these, these master genes that could actually activate your genes to, to essentially go back to us to like a germ cell, like you do with your sperm and your egg, you know, because those, the biological clock is set to zero. You know, they don't. They're not as old as the parents. They get a new fresh start. And I think we'll be able to.

Do that at some point, hopefully fairly soon for us. So obviously the biggest takeaway here is we have got to get these cell phones out. And you know, you're going to be horrified. But I was sitting here going, oh my gosh. I go to the gym, I have my cell phone with me, and I'm listening to podcasts, and I'm like, what was I thinking?

There's one more in emfs, which is your WI fi, which is literally a cell phone tower in your home. So a lot of people don't do anything in this because, oh, they got all the cell phone towers. My neighbor's got WI fi. I got, you know, you know what? Why do I have to do anything? It's not going to matter. Yes, it does matter because it's a distance issue. So you've got to turn off the WI FI in your home, certainly at night. But ideally you contract a home theater company because those are the companies that can run the Ethernet wires you need in your house behind the wall. So it does. Is cosmetically okay. And then you switch to Ethernet and then you got to turn all your devices into airplane mode. Like you can put. You can have your Ethernet hooked up to your computer, but if your computer is still, is still emitting a signal, that's not a good thing. So you need everything in airplane mode. And then you double confirm it with the Acoustic Comp 2 to make sure you're not getting any RF signals, radio.

Frequency signals, EMFS diet. I just want to ask one more about oxidative stress. Is. Is the. Is aerobic exercise, but where does. There's a big difference between, say, walking and going and doing marathon running, for example. So does Higher intensity endurance exercise create more oxidative stress or not.

It does typically, especially longer. Like if you're an elite marathoner running, you know, two hour marathons or two hours and change marathons, then you're having loads of oxidative stress. But if you do an ultramarathon like Bill Andrews, who's the telomere expert you need to interview, he does them like just comfortable talking pace. So this, there's some evidence to suggest that may actually help lengthen telomeres. So I don't know that you, anyone needs to walk more than an hour a day. I mean, there I, I'm an advocate of stretching and yoga and strength training. Resistance training is incredibly useful, especially get older because there's a tendency to lose muscle mass. So you can pretty much abort most of that muscle mass loss by these, these practices and they will actually radically slow down the aging class. They're one of the most important things to, to maintain your health as an exercise program. But it doesn't work if you've got this radical exposure to oxidative stress from your EMF environment and you're eating the bad, bad food because that they'll trump any exercise you do. You can't out, you can't race that huge.

All right, this is fantastic. We are going to have some kind of super cool information from you yet to be determined. So you're going to want go and grab that.

You know why? Because people like surprises.

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Yeah, no, please, no, no. All right, after the break, I'll be answering a bit little listeners questions, so stay with me.

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