The Surprising Habit Helping People Live Long Healthy Lives
15 Dec 2025 · 19 min
This is a transcript of a JJ Virgin podcast episode (Ask the Health Expert) that mixes sponsor reads with a health-focused main segment. The host highlights the longevity habits of the Blue Zones—particularly everyday movement rather than formal exercise—and introduces NEAT (non-exercise activity thermogenesis) as a major contributor to daily energy expenditure. The episode also explains the four components of daily energy expenditure (resting metabolic rate ~70%, NEAT ~15%, thermic effect of food ~10%, exercise ~5%) and offers practical, everyday strategies to increase NEAT.
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What if it turns out that there was a really simple way to hack your metabolism and burn fat almost effortlessly and maybe even live longer? Well, it turns out there might be. And it's based on some pretty cool new science. Hey, it's jj. Now, if you want to keep up with the latest research on things that will help you get healthy and then bonus, lose weight too. Make sure you don't miss out. Hit like and subscribe to this channel and you'll be good to go. If you've heard of the Blue Zones, you know that people living in those five places are living a lot longer than just about everybody else, sometimes past 100. And more importantly, they're healthy too. Because who wants to live to 100 unhealthy right now, even though they're spread out around the world, they have pretty much the same lifestyle habits. And there's some surprising things. In fact, one surprising thing that they do that you can easily do too. No matter where you live, if you want to get healthy, feel better and lose weight too. You probably already know that being overweight can put you at risk for disease and it can also decrease your life expectancy and the quality of your life. So if you want to avoid that, it makes sense to look for examples of people who seem to have cracked the code. Like the people who live in the blue zones. They're active and lean way into their senior years. It's the closest thing anyone has come to, to discovering the fountain of youth, I think. So what's their secret? Well, first, if you don't know, the Blue zones are five areas around the world where people live the longest and healthiest well into their old age. And like, listen to these ones because you'll go, huh, it's Okinawa, Japan, then Sardinia, Italy, then Nicoya in Costa Rica, then Icaria in Greece. And then I find this one, the craziest. Loma Linda, California. Now, they might seem like they got nothing in common, but they actually have a lot of things in common. Things that seem to be the key to their health and long lives. And here's what's interesting. It's not just diet and exercise. It's also things like having a sense of purpose and minimizing stress. And yes, of course, I'm going to talk diet and exercise because that is of course a piece of it. Now they eat mostly a plant based diet. And by the way, they eat real food, right? And they do something active every single day. And of course that makes sense because you always hear diet and exercise are important. To your health and to losing weight. And that's true. But the people in the blue zones aren't exactly killing it at the gym. In fact, like most those places don't have gyms. Right. So what are they doing instead to stay active? What they're doing every day to stay active is actually really simple. Are you ready for it? It's a big secret. They move. Yep, they just move. But here's the key. They move all throughout the day. They're doing the smaller things that constantly keep them moving. They're taking the stairs, they're walking the hills, they're parking farther away. You know those things we always tell people to do? No one does. Now, these things aren't exactly hard, but clearly there's something to this because these people are by and large healthy and lean and living longer. And it's not from working out. They know what most people don't, and that's that exercise doesn't really burn the calories or take off the pounds. You think it does. You know, I'll tell you, early on, when I was a personal trainer, I remember people were coming to me to lose weight and they go, I don't want to change my diet. I just want to exercise to lose weight. And I found out really, really quickly that you could not out exercise a poor diet and that you couldn't just go to the gym for a little bit each day and it would make this big, substantial difference. Here's why. When it comes to weight loss, people usually overestimate the benefits of exercise and especially intense exercise. You know, when you go to the gym and you're there sweating it out on the treadmill and then you're done and you're all excited and you the readout of how many calories you burned on that treadmill and you're feeling really good about it. All right, I don't want to be a buzz kill, but I'm going to be a buzzkill because that is not actually an accurate measurement. And here's why. You'll see. Oh, you burned 300 calories or 400 calories, but that is not true because that measurement doesn't take into account the calories you would have burned if you hadn't have done that in the first place. Your resting metabolic rate, so it over exaggerates the amount of calories that you're actually burning. It doesn't take that out. Leaving out your resting metabolic rate is a huge miss and really skews the results. Your resting metabolic rate is that metabolic rate you need to Maintain your vital functions like breathing and keeping your heart beating, or, you know, when you're just resting or hanging out. And usually it's when you're just sleeping, you're comfortable, etc. It's not like when you're freezing, by the way, or shivering, that will change your metabolic rate. But the thing is, those machines at the gym, they are not calculating that for you. They don't calculate how many calories you would have burned at rest, just living and breathing and then subtract that out. But they should, right? They should. It would make more sense because those resting metabolic rate calories are going to be burned no matter what. And they count. I mean, they're actually your biggest part of what you're burning every single day. So they have to be subtracted from that equation in order to know how many calories you're burning just from the workout alone. So that's why people always overestimate the amount of calories they're burning when they do exercise. So first of all, you know me. Your body's not a bank account, it's a chemistry lab. I want you to give up this whole obsession on the calories, on how many calories you burned working out, because a, you're never going to know the accurate number anyway. And there's a way better way to look at exercise for the real value it gives you in terms of your overall health. It's not the calories burned. Right? It's what it's going to do for your brain. It's when it what it's going to do for building muscle. It's what it's going to do for insulin sensitivity and stress management. The real value is the metabolic impact you get from the muscle in terms from the exercise. Again is all of those things that's what you want to look at. And that can't be quantified into how many calories you burned at the workout. It's how much muscle did you put on that's going to change your metabolic rate all day long. How much more insulin sensitive and glucose tolerant did you get now? Did you teach your body how to handle stress better? Right. So many more important things. So let's just release the calorie thing. All right, Back to the blue zones and how much they move. It's one of the biggest factors in their longevity, but it's something most people overlook in their lives every single day. And bonus, it is so easy to do. And again, I'm not just talking exercise here. I'm talking just moving, moving. Activates something called neat. And neat stands for non exercise activity thermogenesis. It's that energy that you burn doing everything except exercise or sports. Now, we just talked about the fact that you're also going to burn calories whether you move or not because of your resting metabolic rate. So if you take. We're going to do a little math here, but you take rmr, your resting metabolic rate. That's how many calories you would burn if you're just hanging out, but you're not doing things like shivering and neat. Those are two ways you burn energy, but they're not the only ones. The third is the calories you burn through eating, which is called the thermic effect of food. Now, I cover that in detail in another video, but the highlight here is that it's basically the energy it takes for you to digest your food and absorb nutrients. For example, protein has a high thermic effect because it takes more energy to digest than carbs. So eating more protein and fewer carbs can help with weight loss and can have a better effect on your metabolism. Okay, Number four is, of course, the calories you burn from exercise. But of the four ways you burn energy every single day, your resting metabolic rate, neat. The thermic effect of food and exercise. The math on where you're burning the most calories may surprise you. Your resting metabolic rate accounts for approximately 70% of your total energy expenditure every day. Neat represents about 15%. The thermic effect of food represents about 10%. So let's do the math. Exercise represents approximately 5%. 5%. Come on. So there you go. The energy you burn from exercise is the lowest percentage of your daily total. The highest is your resting metabolic rate. Next, followed by neat. That's a big aha, right? The calories you burn through NEAT are a game changer. And it's a big part of what's going on in the blue zones. So it's time to get moving. But just know that your mileage may vary because neat isn't the same for everybody. It increases the more you move. So the more the better. And here's the cool thing like that means, you know, you see, you've heard that sitting is like smoking cigarettes. So you want to stand as much as possible, you want to fidget as much as possible, you want to get a little cold as much as possible. All these things are neat. There was one study that measured neat in lean and obese people who were all sedentary and had similar jobs. The obese people sat about two and A half hours more a day than the lean people. The leaner folks stood up or walked around, around over two hours more each day. Two hours more each day. So what we're learning is that fidgety people, right? If you're a fidgeter, you could burn 800 to 2,500 more calories a day than someone who's like sitting still. Kind of. Look at all those teachers who told you to sit still. Like all the damage they could have done. You tell your kids to ignore them, right? You tell your kids to fidget. And look, I know you already know you should park your car farther away from Target, but you never do it, do you? I mean, if that was the case, there'd be lots of spaces at the front and there never are. So we know no one's doing it. But maybe now you will. Now that you know that more movement will activate your knee, you'll rethink where you park. Because the little things do matter. And by the way, I've got an office upstairs in my house and the kitchen and everything else is downstairs. I was going to get a little refrigerator and a coffee maker up here and I thought, no, you are not going to do that. You're going to go up and down the stairs, up and down the stairs, up and down the stairs. Then I'll tell you another little story. My little doggie, my six pound dog, Daisy, when I was traveling a lot, was living with my ex husband who may have overfed her a little, and I got her back and she was £10. She's supposed to be £6, so that was quite a weight gain. And one of the things I just did was have her moving a lot more. I had her. We were living in a house with stairs. We just moved into it. She followed me up and down and up and down and up and down, all over the place and did that with some intermittent fasting and boom, got the weight off her pretty quickly. So do not underestimate all of the little things that you can do every single day to activate your neat. All right? Ask yourself, hey, how can I incorporate more movement into my life? Can I do my conference calls standing up instead of sitting down? Can I work from a stand up desk? Can I read that article while I'm walking on a treadmill? Can I do my meetings and conference calls while I'm out and about? Can I listen to that podcast or seminar while I'm moving or doing some gardening? Or here's one. How about, can I use a regular old push vacuum cleaner remember those make this your new rule. If someone calls to ask what you're doing while your Roomba is running, you're not allowed to answer that you're vacuuming. That doesn't count. All right, obviously activating your NEAT will be unique to you and what your day is like and where you live. But bottom line is it will pay huge dividends. So find a way each day to make this simple change, incorporating moving more, even fidgeting into your life, because it's going to make a big difference in your health and your weight and how you feel now. If you've enjoyed this video, please let me know by hitting like and subscribe to. Stay in touch. Up next Check out my video on five things you're going to want to do to make the transition to menopause as easy and painless as possible. See you there. For more info on this and other health topics I cover, or to rate.
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