How two brothers became go-to experts on America’s “mystery drone” invasion

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Narrated by NOAA Listen to more of the best articles from the world's biggest publishers on the NOAA app or@newsoveraudio.com Matthew Phelan writes how these two brothers became Go to experts on America's mystery drone invasion On a Friday evening in December 2024, every tier of U S law enforcement, federal, state and local was dispatched to the U S Army Natick Soldier Systems Center, a military research installation outside Boston. A squadron of about 15 to 20 drones had been spotted violating the base's restricted airspace. The culprits could not be found. One retired major with the Massachusetts State Police who had been dispatched to help investigate that night, called these unidentified aircraft the strangest thing he's ever seen, according to Brian Lazen, deputy chief of Natick's Municipal Police Department. When Lazen arrived on base later that weekend, he says he saw drones that were larger than traditional consumer models, most of which are pre programmed to respect US Military airspace these days anyway. By the end of this weekend, long Breach base police not only had called in local law enforcement for backup, but were coordinating with the FBI and U.S. army commanders as well. The event, which barely made local news, was only the latest in a series of purported drone sightings along the US east coast that November and December. Most of these happened in New Jersey, where military police confirmed at least 11 unauthorized drone incursions over an army research and arms manufacturing facility, Picatinny Arsenal. Further sightings, including cases above Donald Trump's golf course in nearby Bedminster, prompted an FBI investigation and a flurry of new FAA issued flight bans over sensitive sites, including critical infrastructure. But official answers were less forthcoming. It created a lot of hysteria in the general public, lassen recalls. I was talking to old ladies who were telling me that there's this ship in the ocean that's launching hundreds of these at a time across the United States. One Republican congressman from New Jersey did in fact claim that a militarized drone ship from Iran had launched the invaders. Despite Pentagon denials, Lassen remembers fielding myriad calls from civilians who had misidentified passenger jets as hostile drones. He recalls attending one presentation by an FBI expert in Uncrewed Aircraft Systems, who showed police unhelpful scare videos of improvised drone strikes in Ukraine in which tiny aircraft rained grenades down on bloodied soldiers. By late January 2025, the incoming Trump administration would assert that the entirety of the New Jersey drone wave would had been benign, with each and every UAS authorized to be flown by the FAA for research and various other reasons. Their surety, however, stood in stark contrast to the warnings from top military brass, including the Air Force general at the head of norad, Gregory Guyot. In February, he testified to the senate that approximately 350 drone incursions had been reported over a hundred different US military installations in 2024 alone, stating that many of these cases were unsolved, albeit with evidence of a foreign intelligence nexus in some of these incidents. Lacking better coordination or much clarity from the White House, the Pentagon, or the US Intelligence community, some in domestic law enforcement, including members of the FBI's Counterintelligence and Counterterrorism divisions, have turned to an unlikely source for help cracking the case of these mystery drones. Two UFO hunters out on Long island in New John and Gerald Tedesco. The Tedescos twin brothers each spent about three decades in the private sector working in electrical engineering and instrumentation design before they decided to kit out an old RV with an array of homemade signals collection equipment. Their aim was to create a mobile field lab for investigating UFO hotspots. Intrigued by their efforts, members of Harvard's Alien Hunting Galileo project began talking with the Tedescos in 2021 and asked them to join as research affiliates. Since then, aviation safety advocates, astronomers, physicists and other researchers, and at least one journalist, I myself have made the trek out to Long Island's south shore to kick the tires on the roving aerial surveillance unit they've dubbed the Nightcrawler. Chris Grooms, an Iraq and Afghanistan war veteran who was a deputy sheriff in Nebraska during an earlier multi state wave of mystery drone sightings from December20 to January 2020, gushed when I asked him about the Tedescos. I don't know how much you've talked to those guys. They're freaking awesome. Grooms joined the Tedescos last January when the brothers publicly shared some of their findings from training the nightcrawler's sensors on a few of these unidentified drones. They do look like commercial air traffic for the most part, john said during the virtual town hall moderated by a former Illinois State Police lieutenant. But they also exhibit unexplained or unusual phenomena. As an example, the Tedescos described some cases they had documented and passed along to law enforcement in which they caught A mystery drone appearing to go dark to evade closer observation, a common complaint from New Jersey police during the wave. Using their suite of cameras and sensors, which can handle light well outside the visible spectrum, the Tedescos discovered that these craft weren't so much switching off their lights as. As switching the frequency of their lights. It wasn't actually disappearing. Gerald, who goes by Jerry, explained. It was actually changing its special signature. It was drifting into an infrared range. John likened it to signature management, a military term for the ability to tailor anything from radio emissions to light sources so that they remain detectable to one's allies but undetectable to one's foes. The clue, which likely would have been lost to police without the Tedesco's broad range of infrared sensors was not unlike the kind of citizen science fieldwork that had gotten them on the radar of academia's UFO hunters in the first place. Why all this attention? As people have repeatedly learned and forgotten ever since airborne enigmas like the flying saucer first entered into the American public consciousness in 1947, simple photos and video are frustratingly inconclusive evidence in isolation. Even heat sensing infrared footage of UFOs like those taken by US Navy pilots training off the Pacific and Atlantic coasts has failed to prove that anything truly unusual is in our skies. What the Tedescos appear to have done in their effort to bring a fully maximalist approach to the sensors directed at these suspected alien spacecraft is independently engineer the kind of aerial surveillance capability rarely seen outside the classified world for domestic law enforcement and the general public, two communities lacking the requisite national security clearances. The Tedesco's work promises a transparent, open source solution to the past several years worth of bizarre and troubling drone incursions into U.S. airspace. For academics hunting for UFOs and other aerial anomalies, the Tedescos have become informal collaborators and a font of new ideas for novel data collection equipment. But for better or worse, some of the secrets they might be revealing may be the government's own. The term UFO has officially gone out of fashion. Nowadays, many policymakers and scientists, and even plenty of old school ufologists, favor the term unidentified anomalous phenomenon, or uap. It's an intentionally pedantic step backward, an acknowledgment from today's more disciplined cadre of scientists that a given witness to a strange thing in the sky might not actually be seeing a solid object per se, much less anything flying in the strict aerodynamic sense. It could be a poorly understood atmospheric event, like ball lightning, for example, and even If a UAP proves to be an interstellar craft, its propulsion system could involve physics and engineering render the concept of flight quaint. Ryan Graves, a former U.S. navy lieutenant and F A18F fighter pilot who testified before Congress on the safety and security risks that UAPs pose to his own squadron, now heads a committee on the issue for the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, the nation's premier society for aerospace engineers. He went out with his AIAA colleagues to see The Nightcrawler in September 2024. It's incredible what they've been able to put together, graves says, praising the Tedesco's ability to collect very actionable data. Jerry once held a security clearance to develop reconnaissance, surveillance and target acquisition sensors for a Pentagon contractor. John has helped conceive and construct analytical test hardware for Underwriters Laboratories, a federally approved safety testing and certification firm, and served for a time as the product safety chair, the Long island branch of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. John drained most of his 401k to make the Nightcrawler project a reality. In a five year labor of love, Jerry has pitched in what he could. Both men, now sliding through their early 60s, have been fascinated with the possibility of intelligent life elsewhere in the universe since their youth ingesting mid century sci fi staples like Star Trek, Chiller Theater and Lost in Space. I got my first tour of their rig during an overnight expedition just off the beach at Robert Moses State park in Babylon, New York, the weekend before the AIAA's trip last fall. A clch of camping chairs and cameras on tripods flanked one side of the Nightcrawler like a tailgate party inside the lived in kitchenette. The wood paneling and the hum of over half a dozen monitors including radar, night vision and radio frequency or RF scanners made it feel like the cabin of a cramped marine research vessel. The RV includes tech that is otherwise hard to find outside defense applications, including RF spectrum analyzers from a firm that specializes in elite anti drone countermeasures and a UV C sensor capable of detecting the subtle ultraviolet light emitted when missile plumes and other heat sources turn air into plasma. On the nightcrawler's roof, 2X band marine radar systems have been mounted perpendicularly to one another in hopes of collecting three dimensional radar returns from truly otherworldly UAPs. To our knowledge, as the Tedescos put it in an engineering journal article in 2024, no other organizations use active radar for this purpose. Civilians are not ordinarily allowed to beam active radar, owing to federal concerns over harmful interference with core systems like air traffic control. But in January 2023, the duo got a rare license from the Federal Communications Commission that permits them to beam radar from Robert Moses. One prototype I saw a multi spectral camera mounted on a sturdy yellow DeWalt surveyor's tripod looked like a Gatling gun of multiple cameras and electromagnetic frequency, or EMF sensors. This JerryRig device spans the entire visible spectrum and beyond, from deep and visible ultraviolet all the way up to long wave infrared. They've used the UV C sensor to detect aerial plasmas produced by lightning or those novelty arc welder cigarette lighters. We've done this as far as a half a mile, but if you had a campfire, they could detect campfires from 28,000ft, John told me over the noise coming from the Nightcrawler's gas powered electric generator. They've also been able to use this device to detect, at least provisionally, telltale UVC emissions from some weird things off the coast they can't explain. We had two blue orbs out on the water, john told me of their UAP cases, and they triggered it, what, three times? Three times, jerry replied. The Tedescos are pretty bullish on the hypothesis that otherworldly spacecraft might be here, suggesting in their latest journal article, for example, that radar delays they detected near UAPs appear to resemble the bending of electromagnetic waves around black holes. But the implication that the nightcrawler has caught gravitational lensing off some warp drive craft has rankled a few Galileo project collaborators. The Harvard led effort to search for extraterrestrial life or technology within our solar system emphasizes its excruciatingly methodical work of late calibrating, validating, and recalibrating UAP detection hardware before researchers even try to hunt for true anomalies. Although Galileo scientists have visited and conferred with the Tedescos on UAP hunting instruments, the brothers more rough and courtroom ready forensic science approach has caused turbulence in the relationship. In an email, Mitch Randall, a technologist and entrepreneur who has spearheaded Galileo efforts to produce passive radar detectors for UAPs, described the Tedesco's gravitational lensing paper as rife with too many assumptions. But he did praise their nightcrawler as an ideal tool for aiding law enforcement. They could drive around with that and almost chase down drones, randall said. Ultimately, the Tedescos didn't have to drive the nightcrawler far to train their equipment on a prime mystery drone case. West Hampton Beach's Francis S. Gabreski airport, less than an hour from their homes and home itself to the New York National Guard's 106th Rescue Wing was inundated with at least 28 unauthorized drone flights from late December into January 2025. We are talking about over the airport, over taxiways, over runways, suffolk County's Chief Deputy Sheriff Chris Brockmire told local News. That's a serious safety concern. It's impacted air operations and we're not going to stand for it. On Christmas Day alone, the airport was besieged by 17 drone incidents, according to the Suffolk county sheriff, who has staff that collaborate informally with the Tedescos. Some of these drones, Suffolk County Executive Ed Romaine asserted at a press conference, were as large as a car. The Tedescos couldn't use their powerful active radar system so close to an airport, so they deployed their handheld millimeter wave radar, a more sensitive version of the radar guns that police used to catch speeders through the cloud cover and the snowfall. The Tedescos said they were able to track about two or three objects with this device, but the truly interesting find came from their radio frequency scanners, which detected spikes three times the strength of what they've picked up from ordinary hobbyist quadcopters. I later learned that the two frequencies where those spikes occurred are within a band 1780-1850 megahertz that has been reserved for US government communications. It is used for military tactical radio relay, precision guided munitions, drones and other Defense Department systems, including electronic warfare software, defined radio and tactical targeting networking technology, according to the fcc. Granted, many portions of this band are devoted to less cloak and dagger agencies like the Department of Agriculture and the Tennessee Valley Authority. But the signals suggested that whatever the Tedescos were tracking above Gabreski Airport, they were likely not from hobbyists. Instead, they might have been from a government project or from something like an enemy surveillance drone, hoping to pass off its signals as just another heavily siloed top secret broadcast. For operations security reasons, we do not provide information on frequencies which our Air National Guard units use, a spokesperson said via email, adding, we could not comment on the use of the electromagnetic spectrum by other government agencies. The FCC did not respond to requests for comment. Jerry says that he and his brother passed their information on this case, including the observations of unusual radio frequency spikes, along to the FBI. We're working closely with the FBI, john says. Jerry adds, we gauge it by their interest level in what we're doing. When they get more enthusiastic, he continues, before John finishes his thought, we know we're closer and closer to something. It's hard to know exactly what the FBI does with the information that the Tedescos submit. One Freedom of Information act request that I filed on their work was returned with 24 out of 28 total pages redacted in their entirety. A consistent justification was the FOIA statute's B7E exemption, which permits withholding sensitive FBI techniques and procedures that could help criminals circumvent the law. Nevertheless, one senior level law enforcement official who has worked with the FBI on counterterrorism cases did tell me that the FBI is genuinely interested in the Tedesco's work. The official, whose current police role bars them from speaking publicly without prior approval, recalls speaking to an FBI agent who alluded to the help that the Tedescos have been but the problem, the official continued, is that for the relationship to work, it has to be very low key. When I did briefly manage to get one of the Tedesco's FBI collaborators on the phone, the agent seemed to confirm their shared efforts, at least tacitly, but asked not to be identified. As much as I'd like to, we're kept to pretty strict guidelines, they said, before alluding to the new Trump administration's pervasive personnel cuts. We're not allowed to talk to media, and with how things are right now, I'm not going to take any risks. At least one former Pentagon intelligence official did offer me some indication that the Brothers Gabreski airport discoveries were on the right track. From what I've seen, these incidents are just that, drones, said this source, who requested anonymity as a current defense contractor and to protect their own active FBI sources, including UAP and drone incursion investigators who have consulted the Tedescos, the origin of many is likely known, and I'd say some are certainly ours. As to the mystery of why the FBI would even want investigative assistance from two civilians in an RV over partners within the executive branch, it comes down to conflicting priorities, as well as over a dozen or so laws that restrict domestic intelligence collection on drones by either the Pentagon or or the US Intelligence community. It's one of those irreconcilable problems that just doesn't go away, says Fred Manget, a former deputy general counsel for the CIA who watched problems of coordination between agencies persist even after policy changes were implemented post 911 to address the situation. The desire of the NSA or some other agency to spy on foreign powers, Mangot says, might override the desire to share pertinent information with police, information that could lead to jail time for the drone's operators. Better to quietly monitor the drones and maybe even give out false data. Signals intelligence. A lot of times can be closed off if the target finds out they're being surveilled electronically, Manget says. There's things they can do that will end NSA's ability to collect on my short call with my FBI source, I did my best to explain this working hypothesis about the bureau's collaboration with the Tedescos. I wouldn't say that's wrong, the source replied. That's about as far as I could go. By June 2025, however, even the recent head of the Pentagon's dedicated UAP hunting group, the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, or aaro, was admitting publicly that the Defense Department itself has crib notes from the Tedescos. We read their book, tim Phillips, aaro's former acting director, told a UAP podcast, referring to an account of the Nightcrawler project that the Tedescos self published in 2024. We thought it was a great plan. We actually looked at the sensors in that book. On another podcast, Phillips said, aaro's own plan to make its UAP hunting hardware mobile was borrowed from the brothers. We thought that was brilliant. Earlier in 2025, partially in a concession to the economic toll their side project has taken, the Tedesco started offering versions of some of their devices for sale on the Nightcrawler's charmingly Geocities esque homepage. One of them, a handheld multi spectral detector, is effectively the consumer model of that EMF Gatling gun they showed me. Domestic law enforcement is genuinely grasping for solutions like this. Local police in the Natick case, according to one report I obtained via an open records request, were so desperate for any kind of new intel on these unidentified drones that they borrowed a thermal imaging camera from their town's fire department. But the device, which was not purpose built for imaging distant aerial objects, failed to collect anything useful. When I broached the idea of law enforcement using something like the Tedesco's equipment, the answer from police who had witnessed these mystery drones as well as from scientists, was that further design, product testing, and training would be required first. I could see it helping law enforcement, said the AIAP team's consulting physicist Rex Groves. But not without training. Absolutely not. Just like they have to be trained with a radar gun, they'd have to be trained with these other tools. Lazen Natic's deputy chief of police, told me that while he thought equipment like the Tedescos could be useful to identifying a drone, particularly at night, the real problem is that police don't have a lot of authority when it comes to these drones unless they manage to find operators on the ground, lazin said, all they can do is report the case, sending it into a black hole at the faa. But Michael Embeck, an aerospace engineering professor and member of the AIAA team, emphasizes that the worst thing law enforcement can do with these drone incursions right now is nothing at all. We're seeing anomalies in our airspace and we're just normalizing that because it happens so often and nothing bad has happened yet, lembeck told me. Eventually something is going to come home to roost and then we're going to regret the fact that we didn't look deeper and try to understand what was going on. You were listening to MIT Technology Review where Matthew Phelan writes how these two brothers became go to experts on America's mystery drone invasion. This article was published on 26 August 2025 and was read by Sam Scholl for Noah.