OpenAI Has More High Profile Executive Departures
7 Aug 2024 · 14 min
Podcast episode (AI Daily Brief Headlines) by Nathaniel Whittemore (Aug 7, 2024) summarizing recent AI industry news: a landmark US antitrust ruling against Google (possible effects on search defaults and AI data licensing), antitrust scrutiny of Nvidia including alleged large-scale scraping of YouTube content, and a set of high-profile departures at OpenAI (Peter Deng leaving after ~14 months as VP of Consumer Product; Greg Brockman taking a sabbatical through year-end; John Shulman leaving to join Anthropic). The episode also describes industry reactions (Microsoft's 10-K language, social-media commentary, Elon Musk's litigation alleging wrongdoing) and closes by noting speculation that OpenAI might respond with a major product release (GPT-5).
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Today on the AI Daily Brief, OpenAI has another set of executives leaving the company before then. In the headlines the implications of the Google Antitrust case for artificial intelligence. The AI Daily Brief is a daily podcast and video about the most important news and discussions in AI. To join the conversation, follow the Discord link in our show. Notes. Welcome back to the AI Daily Brief Headlines edition. All the daily AI news you need in around five minutes. We kick off today with a discussion of the recent Google antitrust ruling and what it potentially means for or how it involves AI. So for those not following along, Google yesterday lost a big antitrust lawsuit In a landmark federal ruling, the US Government has declared that Google's search engine is an illegal monopoly. The judge in the case said that Google's deals to be the default search engine on web browsers, most notably on the iPhone, were illegal because it helped it maintain a monopoly. What's not clear yet is what's going to happen now. As the Information writes, the judge has yet to rule on what Google must do to fix its violations of antitrust law. They point out that the judge could potentially invalidate Google search distribution agreements, which represent around $20 billion of profit annually for Apple. But as they point out, the ruling could also jeopardize licensing deals Google has struck to improve the quality of its AI powered answers in Google search, such as a $60 million deal with Reddit. Now, it seems like Wall street isn't particularly stressed about the deal. Neither Google nor Apple stock went down particularly much after the ruling, which might just simply reflect the fact that anything that's likely to happen could take years with an extensive appeals process, et cetera. It might just be a concern for another day. Still, at a time when there is increasing search engine competition, indeed, when companies like Perplexity are trying to transform the entire way we think about search, this could add a new wrinkle to that competition. The Information writes that after the ruling, several senior managers at Microsoft's Bing search engine privately voiced their excitement about the possibility that Bing could replace Google as the default search engine provider for for Apple when it comes to Apple. Some think that Apple's move into AI could help it, quote, soften the blow. Bloomberg's Mark Gurman writes, Apple is weaving OpenAI's ChatGPT capabilities into its software and expects to do the same with Google's Gemini chatbot. Over time, the company could steer consumers towards AI and Siri instead of the web browser. That would give Apple the opportunity to reach new non exclusive agreements with AI providers, including Google. That don't run afoul of the US Government. Anyways, it is going to be interesting to see how this all shakes out. Another company under some antitrust scrutiny is Nvidia. New York Times published a piece this morning as regulators close in, Nvidia scrambles for a Response with a 90% share of the AI chip market. The company is facing antitrust investigations into the possibility that it could lock in consumers or hurt competitors. The article points to Nvidia's scrambling to hire people to deal with these issues. They write, Nvidia wasn't ready for the attention and is now racing to build the staff and offices needed to respond. Just last year, Nvidia started searching for an office in Washington and hired four public policy employees. This year it added its first in house competition attorney to work alongside a legal team that has been addressing antitrust questions over the past decade. However, Daniel Newman points out that with Nvidia it might be a little bit more complicated. He said regulators want to find out if Nvidia is putting their thumb on the scale of the deal or if the product is so good that it sells itself. There's no evidence they're doing anything monopolistic or anti competitive, but the conditions are right because of their market leadership. You'll notice, for example, that when it comes to that Google antitrust lawsuit, it's specifically about their deals like the one with Apple, not just the general determination that they have too much market share a priori. Nvidia also continues to take heat after, as 404Media puts it, leaked documents show Nvidia scraping a human lifetime of videos per day to train AI. Prominent YouTuber Marques Brownlee continues to be angry about this, writing, cool, cool cool cool cool. Now leaked Nvidia Slack messages discussing which YouTube channels to scrape videos from. Not everyone is so upset, though. Alex Volkov, an AI evangelist at weights and biases, writes, I'm struggling with this, so let's talk about it. Google drove vehicles across all of the US and the world and took pictures of everyone and everything. Yeah, they blurred faces but nobody gave them permission. And now we have Google Street View. How isn't this the same? Logan Thornlow responds, I'm pretty certain the big thing is scraping like this is against the YouTube terms and conditions, but we're in a bit of an unknown area. Creators don't want their videos to be replicated with AI and essentially what this will allow. Alex responds, I doubt that. The reason that MKBHD and other folks are getting frustrated is that Nvidia supposedly broke YouTube terms and conditions and I agree with that. I think it's much more that second thing that creators don't want their videos to be replicated with AI. 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Peter joined OpenAI as the VP of Consumer Product back in June of last year. At the time he posted on LinkedIn today I'm joining OpenAI as VP of Consumer Product. I'm excited to lead the exceptional product design and engineering teams behind ChatGPT with the goal of making AI useful, accessible and beneficial to everyone, or at the crossroads of a new era in computing. And there is so much to be built, from pioneering new interaction paradigms to crafting assistive capabilities that make people more productive and creative. We've only just scratched the surface. I feel honored and an incredible sense of responsibility to help build on top of the team's accomplishments and play a small part in shaping the future of AI. Now of course there is a lot of churn in startup land, but to go from joining as VP of Consumer Product to leaving in just a little over a year, something like 14 months, does certainly make one wonder. It should be noted that I haven't seen any commentary from Peter himself around his departure, so it could be of course for completely innocuous or personal reasons. As a total aside, this sort of product focused role has gotten a lot more important recently at these big AI labs. Anthropic brought in no less than a co founder of Instagram, for example, to run product from which we've gotten some of the things that have made such a big difference to users, such as their Artifacts feature, which was released recently. The next announcement of someone leaving was Greg Brockman, and this one initially absolutely gobsmacked people. The news at first was that Brockman was leaving entirely, and given that he is a co founder and president in OpenAI and has long been seen as Sam Altman's strongest ally, this one really would have sent shockwaves. Now in point of fact, Brockman tweeted to clarify that he was taking a sabbatical through the end of the year, he said, first time to relax since co founding OpenAI nine years ago. The mission is far from complete. We still have a safe AGI to build. On the one hand, I'm sure that there are many of you out there who can understand wanting to take a little time off after having been building in this incredibly intense field for so long. But still, it's raised a lot of questions. Autism Capital captured the sentiment of many when they responded spill it. Brockman Everett World said, I have a bad feeling about this. A customer responded, please give us some confidence that OpenAI is not collapsing or else we'll have to go back to the drawing board and redesign to make our stuff LLM agnostic. The third executive to leave was another co founder, John Shulman. Shulman tweeted the note that he had sent his OpenAI colleagues as well as that note reads, I've made the difficult decision to leave OpenAI. This choice stems from my desire to deepen my focus on AI alignment and to start a new chapter of my career where I can return to hands on technical work. I've decided to pursue this goal at Anthropic, where I believe I can gain new perspectives and do research alongside people deeply engaged with the topics I'm most interested in. To be clear, I'm not leaving due to a lack of support for alignment research at OpenAI. On the contrary, company leaders have been very committed to investing in this area. My decision is a personal one based on how I want to focus my efforts in the next phase of my career. I joined OpenAI almost nine years ago as part of the founding team after grad school. It's the first and only company where I've ever worked other than an internship. It's also been quite a lot of fun. I'm grateful to Sam and Greg for recruiting me back at the beginning, and Mira and Bob for putting a lot of faith in me, bringing great opportunities and helping me successfully navigate various challenges. I'm proud of what we've all achieved together at OpenAI, building an unusual and unprecedented company with a public benefit mission. I'm confident that OpenAI and the teams I was a part of will continue to thrive without me. Post training is in good hands and has a deep bench of amazing talent. I get too much credit for ChatGPT. Barrett has done an incredible job building the team into the incredibly competent operation it is now. With Liam, Luke and others, I've been heartened to see the Alignment team coming together with some promising projects. With leadership from Mia Boaz and others, I believe the team is in very capable hands. I'm incredibly grateful for the opportunity to participate in such an important part of history and I'm proud of what we've achieved together. I'll still be rooting for you all even while working elsewhere. Altman himself responded to that, saying, thank you for everything you've done for OpenAI. You are a brilliant researcher, a deep thinker about product and society, and mostly you are a great friend to all of us. We will miss you tremendously and make you proud of this place. A lot of people noticed that in that response Sam actually used capitalization, causing some to conspiracy theorize that it wasn't actually him writing it. But I think that it's fairly hard to spin this one. A co founder leaving to go to arguably the biggest competitor sends a strong signal, and it's a signal that people have picked up on to the extent that anyone thought that Shulman's departure wasn't that surprising. There was a sense among some that he was in some ways more ethically aligned with Anthropic to start with. For example, Garrison Lovely tweeted Shulman was the highest placed safety pilled person there, in my opinion. Still, by and large, the sentiment was summed up here by Matt Wolf, who wrote what the heck is going on over at OpenAI? Greg Brockman taking a leave of absence, Shulman bailing to join Anthropic, and Peter Deng is bailing as well. So in less than 12 months, Sam Altman is booted and then brought back. Ilia leaves, Carpathy leaves, Logan leaves, several ex employees complain about unethical business practices, Elon sues them twice, Shulman and Deng leave, and Brockman takes a leave of absence. Can't wait for the movie. Daniel Newman writes something is not okay at OpenAI. The whole Sam coup that took place a few months ago may have been poorly executed, but based on the revolving door of key exits and now falling on the Microsoft competitor list, something at OpenAI just ain't right. It feels like the Brockman departure plus two more key execs is the next shoe to drop. Now, a couple things that you heard in these two tweets on this idea of Microsoft saying that OpenAI is a competitor. What this comes from is a recent Microsoft 10K. The way that Cointelegraph sums it up is that Microsoft wants the Feds to view its relationship with OpenAI as more of a frenemy situation than a real partnership. They point out that across the 10K, OpenAI is discussed both as a partner and as a competitor. For example, in one part of that they write, our AI offerings compete with AI products from hyperscalers such as Amazon and Google, as well as products from other emerging competitors, including Anthropic OpenAI meta and other open source offerings, many of which are also current or potential partners. My instinct is that people may be making too much hay out of this and that this may be trying to position in such a way as to avoid antitrust scrutiny. But the other thing that you heard in Matt's tweet about Elon suing them twice refers to yes, another lawsuit filed by elon Musk against OpenAI. The Financial Times tweets, the tech billionaire's new lawsuit has included fresh allegations that chief executive Sam Altman and his co founder Greg Brockman broke federal racketeering laws. The lawsuit reads, Elon Musk's case against Sam Altman and OpenAI is a textbook tale of altruism versus greed. Altman, in concert with other defendants, intentionally courted and deceived Musk, preying on Musk's humanitarian concern about the existential dangers posed by AI. The lawsuit claims that Altman and Brockman, quote, assiduously manipulated Musk into co founding their spurious nonprofit venture by promising that it would chart a safer, more open course than profit driven tech giants. However, it continues, Once OpenAI's technology approach transformative artificial general intelligence, Altman flipped the narrative and proceeded to cash in. In partnership with Microsoft, Altman established an opaque web of for profit OpenAI affiliates, engaged in rampant self dealing, seized OpenAI's board and systematically drained the nonprofit of its valuable technology and personnel. Now this lawsuit differs a little bit in that it asks the court to decide whether OpenAI's latest models have achieved AGI, which would lead to the automatic termination of their deal with Microsoft. Musk had backed off a previous lawsuit, but one of his lawyers told the New York Times that while the previous lawsuit lacked teeth, this is a much more forceful lawsuit. So all in all, a lot of crazy things going on. We don't have all that much information in each of these cases. There could be entirely innocuous personal reasons for the changes, but the pattern is hard for many people to ignore. So what happens next? Well, Tier taxes predicts, quote, OpenAI will release GPT5, redefine the entire landscape and the very intuitions of what's possible with LLMs. And nobody bearish on them today will admit feeling embarrassed. So is that what's going to happen? Are we going to see a shock and awe campaign with GPT5 to try to win back the public eye? Only time will tell. But that is the story from here. Appreciate you listening or watching. And until next time, peace.
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