What’s Really Going on at OpenAI?
28 Sept 2024 · 11 min
This is a podcast episode by Nathaniel Whittemore examining a cluster of unexpected executive departures at OpenAI (CTO Mira Muradi, Chief Research Officer Bob McGrew, VP Barrett Zoff) and public reactions. The host reviews internal notes and tweets, Reuters reporting about a proposed nonprofit→for-profit conversion (reportedly giving Sam Altman ~7.5% equity at a ~$150B valuation), and offers possible explanations ranging from governance conflict to executives cashing out after large paper gains.
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Dig deep into what's really going on at OpenAI.
Is this normal executive departure stuff? Is this in line with what you.
Might expect from a startup like OpenAI?
Or is there something deeper going on that we should be aware of? Welcome back to the AI Daily Brief.
Earlier this week we got some surprising.
News out of OpenAI. On Wednesday, CTO Mira Muradi announced unexpectedly that she was leaving the company. In the early afternoon, she tweeted I shared the following Note with the OpenAI team today. The note says, after much reflection, I've made the difficult decision to leave OpenAI. My six and a half years with the OpenAI team have been an extraordinary privilege. Gratitude, gratitude, gratitude. And then she basically argues that now is a good time, that O1 marks a new era, Speech to speech marks a new era, that these are inflection points. And as an inflection point, a good moment for her to exit stage left. In terms of what she wants to do, she says, I'm stepping away because.
I want to create the time and.
Space to do my own exploration. In other words, she says actually nothing about what she's going to do or why she's leaving. Sam responded to her tweet with what he had originally responded in their slack Mira, thank you for everything. It's hard to overstate how much Mira has meant to OpenAI, our mission and.
To all of us.
Personally, I feel tremendous gratitude towards her for what she has helped us build and accomplish, but I most of all feel personal gratitude towards her for the support and love during all the hard times. I'm excited for what she'll do next. Now, OpenAI has an extraordinary amount of focus on it. It is undeniably the dominant company in the AI space for a huge portion of the world.
ChatGPT is to AI as Kleenex is to tissues.
And so even if it was just Mira, any executive departure would of course be notable. However, of course this is not the first executive departure. Earlier this year, OpenAI co founders Ilya Sutskever and Andrej Karpathy both left the team as well. Greg Brockman is currently on leave. And of course all of this is happening in the shadow of the board pushing Sam out, only to reinstate him. Last November, when this news broke, early.
Reports suggested that there was a lot.
Of surprise inside of OpenAI. Bloomberg and the Information both reported a lot of sentiment along the lines of wtf? However, it would only get more complicated. Later that afternoon, Chief research officer Bob McGrew posted the last eight years of OpenAI has been a humbling and awe inspiring journey. The small nonprofit I joined in January 2017 has become the most important research and development company in the world. I truly enjoyed working with everyone, blah.
Blah blah blah blah.
I'm proud of our achievements, blah blah blah blah blah. And once again Bob writes, it's time for me to take a break. There's no better capstone to my work here than shipping 01 to the world. Again, very similar argument to Mira. We've reached this inflection point and now it's time for me to bow out. Almost at the same time, VP of Research focused on post training Barrett Zoff writes, hey everybody, I have decided to leave OpenAI. His note is basically all gratitude, particularly gratitude for Bob and he leaves on the platitude. OpenAI is doing and will continue to do incredible work and I am very optimistic about the future trajectory of the company and will be rooting everyone on. So not one, not two, but three executive departures, all in the span of about six hours. Ultimately, this prompted Sam to write yet another note where he said, hi all. Mira has been instrumental in OpenAI's progress and growth for the last 6.5 years. She has been a hugely significant factor in our development from an unknown research lab to an important company. When Mira informed me this morning she was leaving, I was saddened, but of.
Course supported her decision.
For the past year she has been building out a strong bench of leaders that will continue our progress. I also want to share that Bob and Barrett have decided to depart OpenAI Mira. Bob and Barrett made these decisions independently of each other and amicably, but the timing of Mira's decision was such that it made sense to do this now all at once so that we can work together for a smooth handover to the next generation of leadership. So a couple things that are interesting from Sam's note. First, he had only found out that morning, so obviously this was a very last minute, not planned thing. Second, he argued that basically this was a rip the band aid moment off and that basically, for as much as it was going to bring up questions to have all these departures happen at once, it would be infinitely worse to have them staggered over the course of a couple of weeks now. Almost immediately, people's skeptical hackles were raised. Justin Hart tweets, guys, this wasn't just some casual transition over at OpenAI. It was a walkout. And there are about 10,000 versions of this sentiment that all of these people doing this at once must mean something problematic was going on. Ethan Evans, who identifies himself as a retired Amazon VP, writes OpenAI and CEO Sam Altman have hidden problems. I do not know Sam Altman, but I do know executive teams executives only leave a wildly popular unicorn that supposedly has a $150 billion valuation as a last possible resort. One person might leave purely for ideology, but most people with billions on the table stay in jobs they hate with people they hate doing work they hate if that is what it takes. They aren't called golden handcuffs for nothing. I'll come back to some of those assessments in just a minute. Today's episode is brought to you by.
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As people tried to figure out though, if there was maybe some different or bigger catalyst going on here, Reuters broke some new details about the reports that we had been getting that OpenAI was in the process of converting itself from a nonprofit to a for profit. The biggest new detail seemed to be that in the arrangement that was being hashed out, Altman would get 7.5% equity in the company. At the reported $150 billion valuation that the company is raising at right now, that would be more than $10 billion directly to Sam. This was not well received by many Solopreneur Guru levels IO writes Sam Altman will give himself 7% of OpenAI, which at its current valuation of 150 billion would be 10.5 billion in shares. Levels like so many pointed to past comments of Sam saying that he wasn't doing this for the money and concluded, I'm a capitalist and I love people getting rich off their businesses. What I personally don't like is the staky way Sam is doing all of this. You never know if he's telling the truth or not, it's fine to get rich. Just say you want to get rich, you're changing the world, you should get rewarded. But don't lie. Then of course there was Elon screaming about the illegality of converting a nonprofit into a for profit, although he was community noted on his own platform, with people explaining by what process this actually would be legal. So what all is going on here? Is this on the one hand a protest around this nonprofit to for profit conversion? Or is it something altogether more human? I will caveat this by saying I have no unique insider information. I haven't talked to anyone at OpenAI about this, but it seems to me there is another scenario that people aren't accounting for, which is that in a.
World where they have made absolute utter gobs of money, the challenge of being.
Inside one of the most demanding companies in the world just isn't worth it anymore. So what do I mean by that? At least in the case of Mira and Bob, these are folks who have been with OpenAI between six and eight years. In that time they've seen their net worth go from zero to nine figures. I have no idea what the equity compensation structure is like inside OpenAI, but.
Just for the sake of this conversation.
Let'S posit that Mira had 1/4 of 1% of the company in equity and that given that it's been six and a half years, she's vested all of that at the reported $150 billion valuation that they're raising at. That's $375 million. Now pair that on the one hand with the extraordinary challenge of working at OpenAI. Not only is any startup hard, a rocket ship startup is even harder, and this is the fastest growing rocket ship in history. It's redefining consumer and enterprise at the same time. It is ushering in an entirely new era of computing. It is in the public eye like basically no company before it because there is a large community of people who say that if they get their business wrong, the world ends.
The point of all of this is.
That this is not an easy job and at some point if you've already made that much money, you just get tired. Former OpenAI Now Google product lead Logan Kilpatrick added weight to this, saying Miura.
Deserves to take a break.
She's been sprinting at OpenAI for five plus years. Everything doesn't need to be a controversy, janon writes. My very boring take is that OpenAI leadership is mostly leaving because they've spent a lot of time at the hottest company in the world and now can raise incredible amounts of money to do anything in the world they want or get paid a lot to have a much easier job. And in terms of whether this was likely to impact investors and their ability.
To raise, some people basically said that.
This was definitely a protest because it would potentially scuttle that deal. My base case is that absolutely no way that would not happen. I think the simple fact of the matter is if you are a foundation model investor right now, your bet is that the upside opportunity of AGI is so valuable that your only job is to acquire as much of any of the credible competitors to get there as is humanly possible. And you basically have to pay whatever the market says you have to pay at this point. In the case of OpenAI, that is apparently $150 billion. You just really don't have very many more options. The credible competitors in this space can be fit. On one hand, the information seems to validate that writing OpenAI's investors are hanging on for the ride. In fact, the information was able to dig up more information about a number of the firms that were also participating. Now, when it comes to the whole Sam equity debate, that's not the part of this that I want to get into. Now. My only take here is that it seems now, in retrospect, very clear that they never should have structured it without him having some stake. He could have easily shown how much money wasn't his intention by taking a smaller portion than a CEO normally would. But he basically set himself up and OpenAI set themselves up to make an inevitable shift here look like some Machiavellian maneuver, even if it wasn't. Now, going back to Sam's note, a couple last things. First of all, Sam does seem to give credence to the idea that part of this might just be simple human exhaustion. He writes, being a leader at OpenAI is all consuming. On one hand, it's a privilege to build AGI and be the fastest growing company that gets to put our advanced research in the hands of hundreds of millions of people. On the other hand, it's relentless to lead a team through it and these folks have gone above and beyond the call of duty for the company. He also even repeated an explanation of why Mira didn't give him more notice. He said, leadership changes are a natural part of companies, especially companies that grow so quickly and are so demanding. I obviously won't pretend it's natural for this one to be so abrupt, but we are not a normal company. And I think the reasons Mira explained to me there is never a good time. Anything not abrupt would have leaked and she wanted to do this while OpenAI was in an upswing. Makes sense now. You might reject those reasons, but they at least strike me as plausible ultimately. Here's where I am with this. I think OpenAI is one of, if not the most significant company in the world. The implications of what they are building go way beyond them or even their users. And so I like that there is an incredible amount of scrutiny and skepticism around them, frustrating though it may be for their leadership. I think it is part of the cost of doing business and I think it is good that we push and try to understand and don't take anything at face value. At the same time, my general operating mode is that the Occam's razor answer for why a thing is as it is is the right one. And so it strikes me at least as plausible that this is less about some big protest or some major controversy inside the company, and more the fact that it's really hard and they got really rich. But I'm sure that over time we will find more and I encourage all of you of course to keep digging. For now though, that is going to do it for today's AI Daily Brief. Until next time, peace.
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