LinkedIn Friend Crush Time!

I'm on a screened in porch right now with a ring light falling over. Hi everyone. And I'm here this evening with a friend crush that I've had for over a year now on LinkedIn. Amy Leehan Wills. Amy, thank you so much for joining me tonight.

Thanks for having me. I'm so excited. I'm glad we finally get to sit down and like talk.

I know, I know. I think, you know, I always see your name. You, you write the funniest posts for one. And then I get excited when you comment on my posts. And then I think you popped into a clubhouse room that I was hosting months and months ago when I was trying to do Club Clubhouse and I finally decided I hated it.

Yeah, I deleted Clubhouse last night. And so when you bring it up, oh, no kidding. What made you delete? It's so hard to love it.

And then I was like, yeah, I know, right?

Yeah.

What was your problem with it?

I would. Gosh, I. And so this is a weird thing about me because it's like my husband, it drives him crazy because he listens like audible all the time. And I tried and even with clubhouse, like, I will turn it on and then I don't. I find myself just not listening. I'm like, oh my gosh, I turned it on to listen to it. But then I'm like, I can do it while I multitask. I'm like, no, I can't. Okay, just be a decent human and just listen. But I can't. So.

No, no, you're right. It's hard because like one person says something that triggers like another thought of, oh, you need to do that. And then you start doing that thing and then all of a sudden it's, it's gotten away from you.

Yeah. And then like, we've got this whole anxiety component like that's missing from clubhouse. And so there's none of those social. Social cues. Me not being able to do words of like, you can't see whenever somebody's about to speak. So I felt like anytime I talked over somebody on accident, like, oh, forever, I'm just going to run like Napoleon Dynamite. Too much. So, yeah, well.

And I actually, when I, I'm a big phone talker, I love talking on the phone. If I can talk to people on the phone all day long. And that's why I do what I do. But I hate looking at my phone. So running a clubhouse room, like, running a conversation, I am fine with, but I hate having to manage the room and look to see who has a Hand up. And who's joined all this stuff? Because I just feel like I'm not paying attention to what is actually going on in my own room.

Right, right. It used to blow my mind. Ariel Lee. And she would. I'd go there. I'm like, oh, my God. You're, like, robotic about. You're like, I've got this. Like, who's in the room? Let's reset the room. I'm like, I'm the worst. Because people, you know, like, oh. Oh, you've been here for, like, an hour. I didn't even know that. Sorry.

Right, right.

I know.

Like, the other problem I have with Clubhouse is that there's no discoverability after the fact.

That. No, you know, it's just.

It's gone.

Yeah.

You're a great person.

You're gone forever.

Right? And, like, I had. I had the best money conversation with Mega Bradley, and it was like a money conversation that was about money and, like, BDSM at the same time. Like, sex. And, like, it was hysterical. It was such a good conversation. And it's gone. Like, it's never to be seen or heard again. And I'm so sad about it.

Right. The best conversation I ever heard on there. And this was one, like, I was listening, like, with kids in the back seat, and it was like, how to build your stuff on Instagram. So I was like, this is gonna be great for business. And listen to it. Well, all of a sudden, Amber Rose, who I guess is a celebrity of some form, I don't know what she does, but I know that everybody's like, oh, my gosh, she's here. And she jumped into a sex talk. And so I was like, oh, my God. Like, some of what she said, you go, I wish.

Right.

That could have been a screenshot. That would have been amazing.

Right, Right.

I know.

Well, anyway, this is why I do live. I prefer live so much more because it's all. It'll be here for all of eternity.

I'm so sorry.

But I. I've heard snippets and allusions to how you became a marketer and entrepreneur, and I just would love to hear, you know, how did you get started?

Oh, my gosh. So one of those, like, moments where you go, what was I thinking? Because. And I'm gonna post about. I guess, like, last week or the week before that. I spent most of my adult life working in the world of pharmacy in a box by myself, living my best life. Like, I didn't have to people. I didn't have to do anything. Should have loved it. But it was one of those, like, I've had two little kids and, and so there was zero flexibility. Like, it's not like pharmacy can keep trucking without someone there.

Right.

So it was one of those of, okay, let's find a, something that I find interesting that could work with these goals that I have. And kind of made a leap of faith toward marketing of I've always been interested. Like my family owns a print shop. This, let's make this work leap of faith. And it was one of those where you go, I have landed on my ass. What was I thinking? I don't have any connections in marketing. I, my background's in chemistry. My whole adult life has been pharmacy. Like, what was I thinking? So a year of mild panic happened. Did a lot of, a lot of really cheap work for different places. A lot of volunteer stuff just to get my name out. Like, I felt like a starving artist of sweet Jesus, please just give me a chance. Anybody. And then like had my first like big girl job. Like my first big girl job marketing was for an ad company. And so now I'm like, that was kind of like, I feel like it's a superpower now. Like, if you can market soybeans and be mildly enthusiastic about it, then like, what can't you market? Is my claim to fame of guys, we went through, like our numbers went through the roof over soybeans. So that's amazing. Take your mildly entertaining stuff. So that's amazing.

So you literally went from no formal training in marketing, which I so admire, to creating a whole career around it.

Yes. Yeah. I spent just hours on end in all of the, you know, Twitter flight school and HubSpot Academy and LinkedIn learning and stalking people that were very successful and being like, please just let me follow you around with my little notepad and just take notes on what I should and absolutely shouldn't be doing, which is not my personality at all. I'm such an introvert. And so it was one of those of please just don't make me cry, just please teach me and don't embarrass me because I'm going to dwell on this for 4, 47 years afterwards. But like, I'm, I'm very fortunate that it seems to have worked out well.

Yeah, well, from what it looks like on LinkedIn, it seems to have worked out really well.

Yes. Yeah. Because I've been fortunate one in that my, oh my gosh, what have I done to our family? I've turned us on our head was short lived I was able to find my footing in marketing fairly quickly. And then I feel like it was an added bonus. Like, it's a. It's a luxury I don't take for granted that I was able to pick up freelance customers and kind of do things on my own, which. It's one of those where you go, I know that this is not easy and it's not standard, but my gosh, is it nice. So, yeah, well.

And I just, for my audience, you know, like, my whole thing is, you know, go ahead and start your business, stop being weenie about it. And one of the things that holds people up is I don't know how. I've never done this thing. I don't know how. And this is just such an incredible example of great. You don't know how. Figure it out. Like, there's so many resources out there to show you.

Yeah, exactly. Because I'm the world's worst about, like, I want a very meticulous plan, and that will. That is my own, like, worst enemy. Yeah. Okay. I need a plan. I need a plan. And so, yeah, the whole, just. Just jump, like you're gonna land somewhere. Just figure it out. Just go rogue was the best thing I did for myself. And I would do it ten times over. Yeah.

Amazing.

And.

And I'm curious, like, what is the thing you love most about entrepreneurship?

The ability to work with so many different people, you know, go through imposter syndrome all the time. And it's this, oh, my gosh, am I really good at what I do, or did I just do this one thing really well, regularly? And so it's nice to have that, like, broad spectrum of. No, like, this person's completely different than this one over here. And then these other four just, like, batshit out of nowhere. And they're all seeming to do really well. So that can't be something make believe or, you know, like, I sell myself short a lot. I'm like, you shouldn't, because look. Look at all this.

Yay. Right?

Thriving.

Yeah. You know, I'm so glad you said that about imposter syndrome, because it's one of those things that happens to me too, and I think I get in my own head about it and I make it wrong. It's like, oh, God, like, every time I start with a new client, I think, oh, my God, am I going to be able to help them? You know, exactly what is it? Like, what if I just was lucky and happened to say the right thing and I actually don't know what I'm Doing.

Yeah, I do that every single time. Like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry you picked me. I promise it's going to be okay. And like, have these pep talks with myself, but then it's like the next day, like, it makes no sense because I'll do that. And then the next day I'm like, oh my God, Beyonce. Like, look at this. It's. I'm like, I need to find a balance. That's what I need to do.

Right?

Imposter syndrome, be gone.

Well, what I tell my clients when I tell the world is that if you have imposter syndrome, it means that you have empathy, which means that you're not a sociopath. So congratulations, we're both.

Exactly.

That's the key.

So. And it's nice because I'm like. And it's so funny because for years I was like, imposter syndrome. Like, what is impossible? Like, people don't go through that. And I'm like, oh my gosh, I wish I could explain it, but I'm like, yeah, it's a good thing. I mean, it makes it. You have the self awareness of, like, there are people better than you out there. Which is not a bad thing.

Right. Did you ever see the documentary on Netflix about Betty White?

No.

I am mildly obsessed with her. I absolutely love Betty White. And you know how she did SNL, like, I don't know, 12 years ago, in her 80s. She's in her 90s now. She, she actually said, you know, I actually have stage fright. She has stage fright. And she's been on camera, I think since she was 17 years old.

Yeah.

Like her entire life with boobs. Like, she's been on camera.

That's amazing.

You know, and she's, she has this philosophy that when you have stage fright, that's actually what gives your performance edge because you have to temper it in some way.

Yeah, that's true.

Right. And maybe imposter syndrome is really what gives us our edge.

Yeah. In our, you know, we're going to give you that much, that advantage over delivering.

Yeah.

We're fighting with ourselves. Gotta love the mind.

So what's your go to remedy for imposter syndrome?

Oh my God. Like to truly go back and look at. Okay, here's what we were doing when we started and it was not ideal. Like we did. Like people thought I was doing good work at this. And so like we've grown to this. So you've put in the work. Like, that's what I tell myself. Like, you've put in the work. Yeah. And you've improved. So you're part right.

Right. Yeah.

Which I have to tell myself that every day.

I'm like, but totally my. Mine is. I panic and I call my coach.

Yes, that helps, too. I call him every day. I'm like, oh, my gosh. Walk. Like, walk me off the ledge. And he's like, honestly, like, make yourself a drink. You work from home. No one sees what's in your cup. Like, oh, my gosh, you're the worst coach.

Or the best, you know, or the best.

Making holidays fun. So.

That'S so funny. And, you know, you. Your posts on LinkedIn are so funny, and they. They really make people feel like they know you and, like, you're friends with you. I mean, I.

The.

The. The title of this is LinkedIn Friend Crush, because, like, I just wanted to be your friend the whole time I've seen you post on here. What's your. What's your whole philosophy when it comes to marketing?

To just cut the bs? Honestly, like, so many people, it's like they sit down and go, okay, I have to have this whole strategy and what's my end goal and what am I trying to sell you? And I'm like, just be yourself. Like, just roll with your gut. I mean, you're not going to sell things very good if you can't even, like, put yourself out there. So that's been my whole strategy with LinkedIn, of this is me flaws and everything, take it or leave it. Which has worked well because the people, like, the people that are in my circle that I do really care about, I'm like, y', all, like, know me better than I do. This is great. So, yeah.

Yeah, I'm. I. I love that, like, my whole belief goes along with my coaches, and it's like, you can't be a secret and a success the same time. It's impossible.

Yeah, yeah. You just gotta put it all out there.

Yeah.

And it's that whole thing of, like, on the Internet, like, it's got a very. You know, it can live here forever, but the next day there's new stuff there. So even if you absolutely suck, like, if you put something on here and it's the worst, somebody else is gonna put something else worse tomorrow. So.

Yeah. Yeah. The good news is no one's paying attention. That's also the bad news, but no one's.

Exactly. Exactly. Worst case is you're gonna make an ass of yourself and become a viral sensation.

Right, Right. People know your name.

Yeah, exactly. Even if they are making fun of you, like, it works out. You get benefits from that. So.

Yeah, totally. Well, it's funny, you know. You know Brene Brown, right?

Yes.

Right. So, like, her first TED Talk. She was going to give a very different TED Talk, but she changed it the day before when she was on a plane from Hawaii. Yeah, she's gonna give, like, a data driven TED Talk instead. She had just gotten out of a conference where she trained a bunch of executives on how to be vulnerable. And she's on the plane and she's like, rewriting her speech. And her. Her husband's like, what are you doing? She's like, oh, I have to rewrite my speech. He's like, why? You've given it a million times. She's like, well, I'll be talking out of my ass if I don't, like, do what I've just been training on the last three days, and that's be vulnerable. And she figured it would just be like 500 people and that would be it. And, like, millions, if not millions of people have seen this TED Talk at this point. And I just saw a video of hers either on LinkedIn or Instagram, where she got a call out on. What is it?

Ted?

Lasso, Lasko or Lasso. They called her out and they, like, were poking fun at the title of her next book, and she's like, about it. But, like, the worst case scenario is that, like, people know you.

Exactly, exactly. They're making fun of you. People are making fun with. Because they recognized your name. So. Right. Not the worst thing.

Not the worst thing.

Anyway.

So work aside, what's life right? Like, right now?

Hot dumpster fire is what it is. Busy. It's busy, which is good. And it's so funny, though, because I'm like, okay, I've got all this stuff. And so aside from, like, imposter syndrome and just regular chaos, something I struggle with all the time, is like, this balance of, yeah, I'm being the best marketer for my clients, but also like, I'm super mom. And so I'm always like, oh, my gosh, Andy, have I spent enough time with the boys? Have I, like, ruined their childhood? Is their core memory going to be that I'm on the computer? Like, what the. What's the matter with you? No, they're fine. And so, like, I've been busy trying to get things more organized for clients and stuff. And so my oldest came in here the other day and he was like, okay, so I think you should hire me because I can do like, I've learned some canva and I think you should hire me. Oh, my God.

That's the sweetest thing.

Yeah, it was adorable. And so he like. Because we. I have like an old computer that he plays on, so he's like, whenever you get a moment, come over here. And I've put together some logos and so he made like a little Minecraft logo and something else. I was like, this is the key to portrait. Oh, my God. So now I have like this chair over here of pull the chair and we're gonna work together. Oh, my God.

So cute.

It'd be a dumpster fire for all of us.

How old is he?

Eight.

Okay. I need some canvas stuff made. I can, I can contact him.

Yeah, he's unexpensive, but yes, he does good work.

Okay, great. And let's just like, you know, promote him to the audience right now. If anyone needs Minecraft style canvas stuff done. Yeah. Does he do other styles is the question.

Oh, yeah, we're all into Fortnite. Everything's animated.

Okay.

He's animated. But he will take good direction. He takes good direction.

Great, great.

But it's definitely gonna look like a comic strip.

Okay, great.

So he works for. It was so funny. He was like, I could do this for. He rattled off some names of people I've been working with, but I guess he's just heard in conversation. He was like, I could do this for this person. He was like, you'd only have to pay me $2,000 a month. I was like, what? And he was like, yeah. He was like, or. Or you can get me an iPad with pro for you. Oh, I'm like, oh, my gosh. What about like ice cream? Like that. You're welcome. It's been fun. It's been. And just adjusting to. Okay, now everybody's at school, so I'm like, I still have this time to fill up and it's so quiet.

Right.

But it's been fun. How about for you? You're busy all the time.

Yeah, yeah, it's been busy. You know, business, like, the pandemic was bad for a lot of people. My business, like, everyone wants to start their own business now. So I've been super busy working on scaling in a few different ways, like doing group programs and then also just like two day workshops where people get to learn really quickly what to do next.

People get stuck.

I've been, I don't know, like, I think I've been pretty open about this. Like, I got stuck with my parents for this whole Time.

Oh, I didn't realize that.

Yeah, I've been stuck on Cape Cod in our. In our family house here since March 2020.

Oh, my gosh.

And literally I gave up my apartment in San Francisco in August 2019 because I wanted to travel around the States and Europe to see. See where I wanted to live next.

Yeah. And then they're like, shut that down. No one's dressed. Yeah.

I just happened to be visiting Cape Cod for two weeks in March and then everything got canceled. But, like, the purpose of that was I don't know where I want to live. And it's really hard to figure out where you want to live in a pandemic.

Yeah.

So I've. Yeah, I've been doing everything from my sister's childhood bedroom because she moved back in as well to finish her engineering degree into my old room because it's bigger and she beat me to it.

That's amazing. Oh, I know.

So it's been. I don't know, like, I. I'm very lucky to get along with both of my parents and to have very positive relationships with them. I know a lot of people don't have that, but it's also a challenge. It's a challenge having roommates like this. I bet.

Yeah. My dad. So, like, I'm super close with my family, so it's like we're this one big giant melting pot. And anytime we go to my parents house, Andy and I, like, if there's a discriminant, he's like, oh, my gosh, I'm leaving you here. My dad's like, no, you're not. No, you're not. We love each other, but no. He was like, I will find her place. I'm like, oh, come on. And so I'm always like, what would happen if we all bumped together again? He was like, no, we don't want to think about that. Thanks. Thank you. Yeah.

Well, I think it depends on the size of the house. Like, we have a pretty big house here, so we could pretty much go the whole day without even seeing each other. And both my parents still work full time, so that's really nice. But I am so happy I'm moving to Philadelphia in October. I was thinking. I was thinking Nashville before, but then I went there and I realized I really don't like it. Yes. That move is coming and I'll be in a new city and volunteering on campaigns to make friends and having a puppy there on my own. So it'll be an amazing adventure. I'm really excited for it.

That will be. That'll be awesome. So is this gonna be like a full time, like a forever or you.

Do you think you'll, you know, for. I'm going for. I have an Airbnb booked for two months just to make sure I like the neighborhood that I've chosen. And then if I don't like the neighborhood, I'll just do another Airbnb somewhere else. And I figure for a couple years.

Yeah. You know, not as well.

Yeah.

Victoria Kennedy, who is on here, is. She cracked me up because she's like, I'm a digital nomad. She's like, I can work from my computer.

Yeah.

So wherever my computer's at, that's where I'm calling home. And so she is in. I don't know if she's back yet, but she was in Paris for the last few months, and I was like, what's that like? And she's like, it's not bad. Maybe I'll come back. She was like, I try to spend two months in a different. Different country. Yeah. Often as I can. I was like, oh, my God, that's amazing. She's like, I don't have kids. I'm just gonna float around.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's essentially what I was doing in my Nomad year. I lived in Rome for a month. I was going to be going to Leon, France, for the month of May, but of course, the pandemic hit and that in the way of everything. And now I have a puppy. So now I have to figure out, like, how do I transfer the puppy to Europe with me?

It's amazing how they throw sun. Such a wrench in things.

I know, but I mean, like, I'm.

Like, oh, my God, we have a newborn all over again.

Right. Right. What kind of puppy do you have?

A little shih Tzu mix. He looks like a little dust mop. I'm surprised he's not in here getting into something, but. Happiest little dog. But. Yeah. I'm like, this is a newborn baby. Yeah.

No, they. They need so much attention.

Yeah. Mine's so classy.

Oh, my God. Mine too. Like, mine's six months and already £55.

Oh, my gosh.

I know. So if I had, like, a little, like, Muppet kind of thing that I could just.

Yeah.

First and, like, take on an airplane, that would be one thing. It feels so bad. Like, putting her in the hold, you know, in a cage away from me. That sounds so stressful.

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. I can't imagine.

I know. But I. I have to share with you. My big win for the day is that I'm wearing a onesie. And for like the first time in my onesie wearing life, I realized appropriately every single before every single call today that I needed to go pee with the proper amount of time to get out of it and get back into it.

Isn't that the worst thing about them? I'm always like, these are the cutest things. Things. I'm like, okay, logistically, we're going to a place where the public restrooms are scary, so can I undo? And then it's like that fear of what if somebody, like, bumps the door and it just like opens? I'm like, I'm. This is it. It's my life now.

I know. And, you know, then there's cameras and then all of a sudden there's pictures everywhere or whatever. Right.

No, I'm sorry. You called me in a bad, famous, wonderful jumper that I bought as a deal. I know.

It was just me at home, like, trying to rush, you know, in between all my client calls.

Yeah. But still, it is. It's like I. Yeah. Just let me wear these things without the stress.

I know, I know. What are you looking forward to?

Oh, my gosh. What am I looking forward to? Okay, so this is weird. This has absolutely nothing to do with work. That's what I'm looking forward to. Bringing on fundraiser that I'm working on called Charity Ball for Junior Auxiliary. They like just kicked off all the fundraising stuff. And being the numbers junkie that I am, I'm like seeing these sponsorship numbers come in has just. It's made my heart swell, like I'm the Grinch or something. And so I was already excited about, but now I'm like, oh, my gosh, I'm. I can't wait. And I hope that it, like, we continue on to a point where, like, it's an in person event. You're like, yes, dance your asses off. Do it.

No. What is Junior Auxiliary?

It is a, like, women's organization, non profit organization. I'll talk one day. And so we help the children in Craighead County. And so they have 12, 12 different service projects, like a big SIS project and coat closet and things like that. And so it's their big fundraiser. So I'm like, I can't wait. That's fabulous for the first event, because I haven't.

Can people donate right now?

Yes. Yeah, they could. I need to share that link and be like, you can.

After this, this live, after you finish watching, go over to Wait, this way. It's mirrored to Amy's profile. And look for that link to donate, because that's amazing.

Oh, yeah, yeah, it is really cool. Like, just the different projects that we do. A couple years ago they did, they do one's called Growing Healthy. So of course, like, with my science background, I was like, yes, let's see this. And they go into sixth grade classrooms and dissect big hearts and lungs, which is super gory. And I'm like, oh, this is the worst. Like, I don't like the blood and guts at all.

Right.

But they talk about, like, exercise and why you shouldn't smoke. And it's so cute to see these little kids. They're like, oh, can you take a picture and tell mom I want to be a doctor? I'm like, yes. Oh, my God, this is precious. And it was so cool too, because we had a woman contact someone, someone in the organization about a month ago. And she was like, okay, here's the deal. I've seen Yalls fundraising stuff start. She was like, so I had a lunch buddy because they have like a lunch buddy program. They'll go in schools and kids that need just a little extra attention, they pair them up so that here, how's your day? You know, all this stuff. She's like, I had a lunch buddy 20 years ago. She was like, but I've been doing really good and I just want to tell them about, like, where I'm at in life now and that it's because of them. And so they're like, yes, let's dig her up. Let's find her. They're actually able to find her? Yeah, they're actually able to find her lunch buddy. And so, like, they had a lunch buddy date last week. I'm like, oh, can we all tune in? Like, can you live stream this so I can see it? And we can all just like be weepy. So things like that.

Oh, my God.

Yeah, it was.

That's amazing. Well, it's, you know, it's one of those things that you think is a cute little program. You're like, yeah, sure, I support that. But has long lasting impact on someone's life.

Yes, exactly. I'm like, this is not just getting like service hours or volunteering. Like, this is. You're making an impact.

Yeah, that's awesome.

Yeah.

I honestly think, like, having some part of your life where you are doing something like that that has that long lasting impact is what makes your business and how you're able to be in your job so much more Successful.

Yeah. Because you're like, I. I'm giving this of myself because I. I want to see you do better. Right. I genuinely want to see you do better. Right. So, yeah, I love it. Love it.

Well, we are coming up on our half hour. Are there any final words of wisdom that you'd like to give to the people watching?

Oh, God bless. Just post your stuff. Like, let's make it a LinkedIn thing. Don't hold back on your contact content. Just go with your gut. If you think the world might want to see this, someone out there does.

Right? I mean, wreck.

It's train wreck that just you and that other person will see. So.

So the fact that I woke up in the middle of the night from a nightmare that there was a spider jumping around me, and then I turned on the light and there was a spider on the wall, and when I went to kill it, it jumped at me. That.

Oh, my gosh.

Terrifying.

That is not very fuel because I am so scared of spiders. I'm like, give me all the other creatures, but a spider. I'm like, just shoot it with a gun. Like, whatever that. Get it out. Oh, yeah. So, okay, cool.

So stuff like that. Please post those things.

Yes. Share those things like that. Like, now I know we. No, no one likes spiders. We can bond.

No, no, no.

Like, the whole demographic of people that will send me messages. That's just like, pictures of pickles. Because I've made so many posts that, like, point that I'm like, of all the things to be memorable about me, I didn't know it would be this, but thank you.

It's funny you say that, because the thing that I get is anytime laundry is mentioned, I get tagged. And they're like, oh, Katie McManus would hate this because they're hitting laundry.

Yeah. I'm like, thank you. I do hate this. Thank you for. I mean, acknowledging that if we ever meet in person, I don't want this on the table.

Ever enter a situation where laundry has to be done and I could potentially be signed up for it. I'm not getting it. Please.

Exactly. And help you with your business all day long, just not your laundry.

Absolutely. Well, Amy, this has been so much fun. Thank you so much for joining this evening.

Thank you for having me. I'm glad we're, like, officially friends. I know.

So exciting. If you come to Philadelphia after October 18th or if you come to Cape Cod before then, then we'll have to, like, meet up and go for lunch or something. I can't wait for the. The world to open back up so I can just travel around and meet everyone in person.

Right. Right now it's still like that awkward. Like, I know I say hi. Do I have to elbow you? Like, what are we doing here?

I know, I know. I'm going to California. I leave Friday night and I come back 10 days later. But it's even like, okay, well, like, what's the process? Like, how. What's everyone comfortable with? We're meeting outside. Thank God it never rains there. But it's, it's.

Yeah. So, you know, it makes people get creative with. Yeah. Their outings. But yeah, I'm ready for normalcy. Normalcy.

I know. Same here. Well, anyway, thank you again for joining me and everyone. Thank you for watching. Amy is going to be posting. I'm just like telling people you're going to be posting this.

Yeah.

Fundraiser. So if you want to go and donate to this incredible thing that actually has long lasting impact on people's lives, please do. And I'm forgetting the name of it. That's why I'm just.

I'll make a whole post about tomorrow.

Exactly.

There you go. Fabulous.

Anyway, thank you all for joining. I'm Katie McManus, this is Amy, Leanne Willis Wills, and we will talk to you all soon. Thank you.

Thank you.