Aparna Chennapragada is the CPO at Microsoft

I do watch and do stand up comedy. It's a very tight cycle of iteration. Like open mics are the real life experiments. Both have PMF. I mean product market fit, punchline market fit. You put something out there, you get very clear micro feedback from users and then you get tough feedback. As product builders, that's actually one of the great skills to have, which is, yeah, you sometimes launch stuff that you know have a fantastic vision, but the first version is not quite there, right? And Reed Hoffman says, they're safe, you don't launch the first version and are not embarrassed. you're doing it too slow.