"I don't want you on a Zoom call "

I need you there, right in the office where I can see you, where you can see me, where you can see how I move, where you understand the flow of the business and what we're doing here. I don't want you on a Zoom call. No. I'm uninterested. No. Like entirely. And again, people are like, oh, but Emma, you are a woman and a mum, so surely you understand flexibility. Of course I do. Of course I understand that. But surely you understand that if you are really ambitious and you want a great career, visibility and proximity is essential. It's not a nice to have, it's just essential.