Manifestation Expert: STOP Doing These 3 Things That Block Your Manifestations! | David Ghiyam

Whatever your desires are, it means you are meant to receive them at some point. Don't question that.

What do you think people are getting wrong about manifestation today?

I think there's a prevailing belief system that we need to suffer to be successful. And that's incorrect.

The co-founder of Mary Ruth Organics, David Kiam, an entrepreneur known as the leading speakers for teaching Kabbalah.

David Kiam. We are destined to have abundance in every part of our lives, not just one. If you earned your soulmate, that one person would appear right at your door. Ooh. When your consciousness and belief systems and energy is in the right place, then you will be guided. Your legs will start moving in the right direction. Your profile on a dating app algorithmically will change. People will feel your energy.

So what are the three things that lower our vibration then from manifesting more?

Alright, the top of the list. It has to do with.

Welcome back everyone to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest. We have the inspiring David Giam in the house. My man, good to see you.

Thank you for having me.

Thanks for being here, man. I've been watching your content online for a while now and you have built a massive business in the last eight to ten years. And you use a lot of these kind of spiritual laws or practices that you say have supported you in building this business, but also just manifesting the things you want in your life. And you didn't always have financial success. You were in a lot of debt. You were struggling. And it sounds like you started to learn these practices to support you in creating the life of your dreams. Is that correct?

That's fairly correct, yeah.

And I wanted to start with, I want to hear more about your story in a bit, but I wanted to start off with what you think are the biggest things that are lowering people's vibration in order to stunt their manifestation opportunities? What are the things you see today? You've coached, I think, hundreds or thousands of people, I think 20,000 hours of coaching on these spiritual laws. What are the things that are stunting people's vibration that's hurting them from manifesting more?

Well, in order to understand what's stunting people's growth and vibration, People, it's good for people to know what they're made up of because we as souls are vessels of energy. So in the same way that a 60 watt bulb can hold 60 watts of energy, if I want to be able to draw a thousand watts of energy via a soulmate, via prosperity, via healing, right? This is all energy that I want to draw into. I have to realize that it's not just a function of how do I grab more energy or how do I get more things. I have to transform my spiritual vessel to be able to hold this energy. So then in my spiritual practice, which is Kabbalah, it's universal ancient wisdom, all Kabbalah explains is how I can become the spiritual vessel, the perfect vessel to manifest all these blessings. The blessings want to come in. People think like, you know, how will I ever find love? Or is this meant for me? Or will I ever find my purpose? If you desire it, it means that this energy exists causing you to desire it. You will never want something that doesn't already exist waiting for you to manifest it. But we have spiritual laws. In the same way we have physical laws of like the science explains, like gravity is a physical law of the universe. Everybody has to abide by it. You can't choose not to. There are spiritual laws of consciousness, spiritual laws of finding your soulmate, spiritual laws of finding your purpose. or healing. There are universal spiritual laws that if we abide by them, we create the vessel to draw that energy in. So every day there are things that we are doing that are either getting us closer to becoming that thousand watt bulb or that 5,000 watt bulb, or there are things that we're doing that's shrinking our vessel, causing us to not be able to have the capacity to hold the blessings that we crave and desire. And often when we're not getting those blessings, we start to blame things outside of ourselves, other people, our circumstances, family members, the economy, politics. And every time we blame anything outside of ourselves, we shrink our vessel even more. And then that spiral takes over. And then there is a circuit breaker, spiritual circuit breaker, that when a person keeps doing negative actions and negative vibrations and they get lower and lower, there's something that's called pain. pain is the circuit breaker. Pain comes in to cleanse a person of negativity and expands their vessel again. Either you can expand yourself through all the things that you talk about, all the things that you teach, all the things that your guests talk about, expanding their consciousness, expanding their vessel, or pain and suffering can also get you there. Really?

What are the three things that lower our vibration then from manifesting more?

Three things I would say that lower our vibration for manifesting more, probably the top of the list. It has to do with limited belief systems and competing belief systems. So what's a limited belief system? And I interact with people on a daily basis who, when they talk with you, they eventually reveal what their limited belief systems are like. So for example, a limited belief system, I had a guy who had a business. several businesses and he's able to scale his company to a certain amount of revenue. Let's say whatever it was, like 10 million of revenue. Each company can easily scale to that point. But something always happened at 10 million of revenue. Lawsuits would come in, employees would leave, chaos, challenges, government issues, and it was a repeated pattern in each of his companies. What this means is as the founder that controls the energy of the company, there's something that's limited in his consciousness and his belief system that gets triggered at the 10 million mark. One of the things could be, for example, here's a belief system that people who are too wealthy or successful actually is not a good thing, or that money becomes evil after a certain point. So for him, he had a deserving issue. He realized he didn't deserve to have wealth beyond that amount. And so there's a part of him that started to sabotage subconsciously the company at the 10 million mark. I had another person that I used to work with. She has 20 employees, maybe a company that's 5 million in revenue. And she's asking, why can't I grow this company? It's been stagnant for years. So I asked her a question. I said, what do you not like about your business? She said, I don't really like managing employees. I think they're a pain. I think there's always issues. There's entitlement. I absolutely, it drains me all day long. I hate dealing with employees. So I told her, I said, When you're on a Zoom call trying to close a new client that will bring you a million dollars of revenue, Do you realize that you are subconsciously hoping that she does not sign up with you because it means you're going to have to hire five more employees to service her account. So there is a part of her that wants the growth. And then there's another part of her that subconsciously is sending out a vibration saying, I hope I don't grow. So that's a competing belief system. So we have limited ones which usually are around deserving. And then there's competing ones, and we see this in relationships all the time. A person, I remember once teaching a group of women, 15 really type A personalities, great souls, and they're in their mid-30s to early 40s, all single. And they're like, We want you to teach us the secrets of how we can find our soulmate. So I said here, I said, well, what do you all share in common? You're all very successful. You all know how to manifest. Why can't you manifest a relationship? What we realized at the end of the session was there is a big part of them that wants love, wants companionship.

-But they are afraid of it too.

They are afraid of it too. There is another part of them that is hidden. They do not talk about it. They love being single. They love their autonomy. They do not want to lose their bodies to having children. They do not want somebody telling them what to do. They do not want to share a bathroom. They associate a relationship with limitation. And so what happens by the third or fourth date, they begin to sabotage or look for what's wrong. And so everyone who's listening, if there's a part of your life that keeps getting stuck, means there's either a limited belief system around deserving or a competing belief system where you are causing some form of subconscious sabotage to happen. It's like you have the parking brake on, but your foot's also on the gas and you're wondering why the car's not moving.

Right. What's been the biggest limiting belief system in your life that blocked you from abundance?

Well, that's a great question.

That's a great question. What you're still doing.

So when I was 15 years old, I had made my first million dollars in the stock market. And then I found spirituality at 15 and it totally changed my life.

Where are we living?

I was living in Los Angeles at the time. I went to UCLA. I graduated when I was 15. Well, I went to UCLA when I was 18. I graduated in 19 just because I just had a belief system that I wanted to blaze through college because I wanted to do spiritual work full time. I joined a spiritual organization just teaching all around the world. I wanted to do that. So I graduated.

Did you have a lot of AP classes in high school?

I did all of it. High school, summer. So by my first year, I already had a year under my belt, and then I just put all the credits on to that's all I did in school. I wanted to graduate, I wanted to get my diploma, and I wanted to move forward. I didn't want to drop out. And then after that, I devoted 24/7 my time to teaching and coaching people all around the world. And I did it for no pay. So I did it all for charity for the first nine years. And here's what's interesting. In the very beginning, in the first four years here in Los Angeles, a lot of the people that I was guiding and coaching were wealthy individuals or they were celebrities. It was a lot of Hollywood. and at the time, you know, would go to their homes and they would learn spirituality and everybody needs spirituality. This was in 2005.

And you're like 19, 20 at the time?

From the age of 20 to 24, which is interesting because I was young. I didn't have that much experience. But what was powerful was, and this is a whole other concept that I've learned, which is when I learned to remove myself from the equation and not teach from a place of experience, but teach from a place of really feeling people. and the endless creator has infinite wisdom and knows all the souls of this universe. If we learn how to be a channel, we can connect to what people need and say things that touch their soul, regardless of how old we are, what our experiences are. So we all have this gift, as you know, I mean, we were talking backstage and the things you were sharing with me were so spiritually aligned with everything that I've ever learned. And so I did have fear of like, what are these people going to think? Like, are they going to learn anything from me? And then my mentor said, You have to not teach from your brain. You have to teach from your soul. And the energy will flow through and they will feel it. And that is what happened. But in that time that I was mentoring wealthy people, I realized, and this was a subconscious thing that I ended up taking upon myself, that the wealthier they were, the more dysfunctional their families were. -Really? -That was a belief system I started to cultivate. And you were like, I do not.

Want to become wealthy because then I will have a dysfunctional family.

Well, I did not know that until I got married when I was 29 and we were in debt and we were broke. and I was spending years trying to make money and nothing was working. And I actually became a victim about it. I'm like, I'm helping thousands of people around the world. I'm helping them become wealthy. I'm helping them break through to all their hopes and dreams. And I have nothing to show for it. And I remember walking down New York City. I was living there at the time. And I said, I was kind of a victim. I'm like, I was talking to the universe. I'm like, why can't I get my break? And then I realized, why am I screaming at God? This energy called God or the Creator is endless, infinite, and wants to give me everything. I need to change my vessel. So then I had to look inside myself and find where the sabotaging belief system was. And what I found was wealth equals dysfunction. Wealth equals kids who go to drugs. Wealth equals kids who want to commit suicide. Wealth creates people who take advantage of you. 'Cause this is what I learned teaching Hollywood and teaching people in Beverly Hills.

They were saying, this is what's happening in my life and everyone's trying to take money from me and people only call me when they need money and no one's appreciative when I give them money and it's never enough or whatever it might be. Exactly, exactly. More problems.

My kids, I keep spending money on them and they're ungrateful or whatever. Oh my God, I can't tell you how many calls I got. My kid is in drugs, he doesn't want to leave his room, he's suicidal. I'm like, you are a type A.

Person that make anything happen.

You would think that your children will feel that vibration and want to be like you, be with you. But what I was realizing was the exact opposite. Now, this limited belief system was causing me to subconsciously push wealth away. Once I realized that, I started to walk the streets of New York and just say the mantra which would reverse that belief system, which is the Creator wants me to have everything. The Creator wants me to have wealth and beautiful children and a healthy lifestyle, and all of it's possible. There is no limitation because the creator is infinite. We are meant to become like the creator. That is our spiritual birthright. So, I am the one that is limiting this energy from coming in. You were blocking it.

I was blocking it. So, it was an awareness, it sounds like. Okay, I am aware that I am creating this block. I am saying these things. My vessel is limited. I am only 100 watts as opposed to 1000 watts or a million watts of energy right now based on my belief system. So let me shift the belief system within me by being aware. Let me start reinforcing it with some type of mantra. Maybe I don't believe it right away, but I'm gonna start to believe it by reminding myself this is possible. How does someone start to believe something is possible when they've never created it for themselves?

That's a beautiful question. How does somebody believe something is possible when they haven't created it for themselves?

It's possible for me to make a million dollars or possible for me to become financially free. when I've never created it and I've always been broke.

There's two ways to do that. Number one, people think that it's very difficult to gather and it's actually much easier. Your body is and your mind and your soul are very compliant. If you say something over and over again, and it's so simple, I don't want to overcomplicate spirituality. If you say something, a mantra over and over again, even if you're faking it in the beginning, your body, your mind, and your soul will comply with that vibration. And then you will do actions that will be closer to that vibration and they will reinforce each other. So what I do literally every day is I just ask myself, what is the highest vibration I need to get to? I see the delta of where I'm at now and where I need to get to. And I just keep hitting that point over and over and over again incessantly until all of me complies with it. And it happens every time.

How do you hit that point when you're feeling depressed or depleted or down?

That brings me to the second thing. Every single week, I try to find people who have already achieved what I'm trying to achieve and spend time with them, add value to them, and serve them. Because Kabbalah explains there's a universal law. If you add value to someone or serve them in a way that makes their life better, you draw from them their positive qualities, traits, and vibration. So if there's something that I want from Lewis, Meaning, what do I want? All I want from you is the consciousness you have already created. I want the vibration you have already achieved in your life. I want the real wisdom. Because wisdom and consciousness is the one thing I can take from you that does not take away from you, but adds to you.

-That does not ask of me, it adds to me.

-It does. Because if I become one more person that learns from you, the universe then replenishes you with even more wisdom and energy. So as you grow your audience, your wisdom increases because your audience craves more through you. And so the creator bestows upon you much more wisdom and energy. And that's the value of growing your audience. And I'll tell people on social media, people are growing their audience because they think, well, that's how I monetize. Or that's how I become famous and the ego gets in. The only intention you should have for growing your audience is you now have all these mini vessels which are craving your wisdom. So what happens is it forces the creator to give you more wisdom and you become a greater channel. And that should be our intention for growing our audience.

Yeah. How do I serve my community in a deeper way?

Correct.

It's all about service.

It's all about the customer, all about service. And when you have that mindset, everything opens up in Chris.

Yeah, of course. What has been the thing that has blocked you in the last year the most? this is something you've been practicing for 20 plus years, 25 years roughly, these spiritual laws. But what's the thing that's still hard for you to break through? Or sometimes you forget and you have to be reminded with a painful lesson.

That's a great question. One of the things I've learned is it doesn't matter how long you've been spiritual or you've been working on something. or what your past experience has been. Every test you go through is sent to you by the universe that is exactly on your level. The challenge, your opponent is exactly equal to where you're at in order to get you to your next level. And the only reason the next level is it comfortable is because it's not your current level. It's a level that you're not familiar with. So of course you don't see it. Of course it's illogical, of course it's dark. And so what I realized in this year, this has been probably one of my most transformational years, is that I am such a perfectionist. Sure, maybe you could relate.

You look perfect, man. You got perfect hair, you got perfect outfit. Everything's like put together, man. You look good.

I think I am such a perfectionist that everything I do, I've always felt has to be the best. And this was the year I realized that part of why I'm trying to always be the best is I don't want to let other people down. I have to kind of give off this persona because I'm representing spirituality and I don't want to make spirituality look bad. So I have to have everything put together.

-Plus you got a big business, you wanna make sure your employees, your team, your investors, whatever it might be, customers feel like you're credible as well.

Correct. Correct.

That's the same sloppy human being walking around.

Correct. I can't be sloppy externally or internally. But what I realized was that what that was causing was a lot of guilt and shame every time I fell short of the mark I needed to be at or the expectations I put on myself. And then what was happening was the guilt and the shame was creating much more negativity than all the things I was trying to perfect. So guilt and shame lowers your vibration more than any other mistake you make. People make mistakes like, I don't know, let's say you're in a relationship and you say something to your spouse or to your girlfriend or boyfriend that hurts them or upsets them and you feel bad about it. That was one moment in time where you created a little negative energy. But the guilt and shame that we carry after making a mistake is a million times the negative energy because it's constant. Every second you hold on to guilt and shame is another moment you're injecting negative energy. So the test isn't the mistake you make. It's the guilt and shame you have afterwards. So how do you remedy that? And this was my biggest lesson. It was taking the pressure off of myself of trying to appear as someone that's perfect and spiritual and allowing myself just to be myself everywhere I went. And I can't tell you How freeing that was, but at the same time, it created so much instability in other people because everyone's like, wait a minute, this was the David we knew, and now what's this? I said, no, this is today a little bit more of the real me. And now I'm actually building a new foundation in my life that's much more authentic to who I am.

How so?

There are people whose approval I wanted so badly and I would, I knew, I know, I mean, look, I connected with your energy and I feel like we share so many of these similar qualities. I know exactly what somebody needs to hear to feel comfortable. I know what buttons to stay away from. I know how to talk to them in a way that can just make them feel really good and comfortable. And I learned that many times I'm killing myself or sacrificing myself or I'm being inauthentic to just make them feel comfortable. So now I'm just learning to be me I'd still be a giver, but to be in the way that maybe makes them uncomfortable in the moment. But I'm being true to myself. And these examples have been happening more and more. It happens with my parents, happens with my friends, it happens with business partners and colleagues. I'm just learning to just show up as me versus who I think they want me to be.

That's beautiful. What do you think people are getting wrong about manifestation today?

What are people getting wrong about manifestation today? I think there's a prevailing belief system that we need to suffer to be successful. And that's incorrect. I think there's so much grind culture that's being thrown out there. And by the way, you do have to work hard and you do have to work consistently. But 99% of it is your belief system about what it takes to manifest. If you believe you must suffer to be successful, then that is the destiny you are creating. You will be successful, but you will only do it after you suffer. Elon Musk has the same hours in the day as we do. He thinks it's easy to colonize Mars. He thinks it's as easy to colonize Mars as we do, you know, maybe preparing a cup of coffee.

Sure.

Because he thinks it's easy to colonize Mars, That consciousness creates a vessel that draws in the right engineers, that draws in the right ideas, that draws in the right lawmakers to change the laws to satisfy him. Of course there are challenges, but he's loving even the challenges to an extent where it all seems easy. If I think something is hard or impossible, then I literally call in the entire universe to create a movie for me that makes it hard and impossible. There are people who, every relationship they're in is a drama. It's difficult. It's hard. Every city I go to, I ask them, is dating hard in this city? They all say yes.

I say, which city is the hardest?

They say, oh my God, I'm in New York. It's so hard to date here. I'm sure it's easier in Los Angeles. People in Los Angeles say, It's impossible to date here. I'm sure it's easier in New York.

Everyone always says it's harder wherever they're at.

Why is that?

Because they haven't been successful yet in their own city.

They haven't been successful in their own city. And if I say it's hard to date, then I don't have, it doesn't reflect poorly upon me the fact that I'm single. So I will tell everybody this narrative it's hard to date so that they don't judge me. And I don't judge myself that I can't find a man.

It's not me, it's everyone else.

Everyone else, it's the city. It's the energy here. It's the, you know, everyone in LA is so superficial. But the truth is, even if everyone in LA was superficial, if you earned your soulmate, that one person would appear right at your door.

Ooh.

Think about it. There are serial killers in prison who are married.

Crazy. They found their soulmate, yeah.

If someone in a maximum security prison who has a reputation of a serial killer can find their soulmate, I'm sure you can too in Los Angeles.

Yeah, with millions of men or women here, exactly. It's funny, you just gotta know where to go. You just gotta try new things and you gotta change, you gotta transform on the inside out.

Exactly what you just said. When your consciousness and belief systems and energy is in the right place, then you will be guided. Your legs will start moving in the right direction. Your profile on a dating app algorithmically will change. People will feel your energy. People will find your profile at the right time and feel called to match with you. All of that comes from your vibration. I talk about products on a shelf. One of the things that we talk about in our company is that the energy of the founders, so Meri and I, our consciousness, down to the executives, down to the directors, to the managers, and to the associates, all of us, our energy needs to be of such a high vibration of an unlimited mindset in order for energy to flow from the creator through us to the product. And then people feel that product on the shelf and they don't know why they like it. They just say it's good branding, right? But they feel something in the bottle and then that's what they should feel when they consume it, when they take it, and then the energy shifts. And here's the thing in your company, if you have one person who's toxic or you have one person who has a limited mindset, they are clogging the pipes of energy flowing down to the product level. So one of the things that I do, I have very little business experience, but from the spiritual side, I'm always checking in with the employees, where's their mindset at? I once went to my head of sales and I said, Hey, in my walk this morning, so every morning I walk and I talk out loud to the universe in the form of prayer. Prayer is just a technology to expand your vessel. People think prayer is something you do to bribe God to make you more comfortable, but There is no bribing God. God is a perfect force. Prayer is a technology to transform our vessel to increase the frequency to allow more energy. So every morning I will talk out loud to the universe.

-What is the best way to pray.

For miracles or abundance in our life? -Any way that makes you comfortable. The way I do it is I walk and I talk out loud in the morning before everyone is awake. Some people like to be still. Some people like to do it in their head. I like to talk out loud. Something very powerful about it. In the first five minutes of prayer, all these negative forces will attack you to try to distract you not to do it. And you'll think it's not working, you'll want to get to your phone and you'll want to quit. I always say you got to go past the first five minutes and then you break through kind of a miracle zone. And then when you talk out loud to the universe, your words become a vessel for energy to come in. And so ideas, my best ideas, best product ideas have come on these walks and I will talk out loud and these ideas will come. And I had an idea and a vision for a revenue number for my head of sales. I went to him, this guy's got 40 years experience. I said, Hey, I think we can get whatever it was, 100 products into Whole Foods. This was right when we first got into Whole Foods. 100 SKUs? 100 SKUs? Holy cow. How many SKUs? We had 100. Oh, wow. I said, I think we can get all 100. Today we have about 300, but I said we can get all 100 into Whole Foods. And he looked at me and he started laughing. He's like, you know, 40 years experience.

I said, We need to aim for.

Two this year to get into Whole Foods. And that's how it works. And we can get to four next year, whatever. And I said, that's a limiting belief though. Based on statistics and history, which is what most people use to form their belief systems.

Most people aren't going to Mars also based on history.

Exactly. The people who are changing this world are people who are not looking at history as a way to forge their belief systems. They're looking at something bigger, more divine, which is endless, and they're drawing these belief systems from a higher place. So I said, look, you have the experience I don't. But as a founder, I, you know, in the last eight years, we've been doing this together. As a founder, I do get ideas and thankfully, you know, we do control this company. So I want you to really be open to this idea. And we had this back and forth. I said, no, it's impossible. I said, I said to him, I said, listen, I want you just to be open to it. And he's like, okay, we'll be open to it. Something happened on a call at Whole Foods and they said like one of their brands wasn't doing well. Manufacturing started to like malfunction and like a whole shelf became open. Lo and behold, that year, I think we got 75 products.

Wow.

Never happened before in the history of Whole Foods. We shot up to be like one of the number one brands. And I think today we're at almost like 120 or 130, like somewhere up there. And this all happened in one year. And every year I go back to the team and I say, guys, and this happens in every department. Remember what we thought could happen? Remember what we saw visually? And if we saw it and we feel it, it means it exists. and we have to be open to it. At the very minimum, I need you to be open to it.

Yeah, I love the question I like when I present this to someone is, in a world of possibilities, if this was possible, what would need to happen?

Beautiful.

In a world of possibilities, if it.

Was possible for us to get 100.

SKUs in Whole Foods, what would need to happen?

You just opened up their mind to bypass their old limited belief system. That's a great way of framing it. Yeah, yeah, I love that. I love that.

Wow, so you got 75 SKUs in in one year. when you had like a couple before then or something, right?

Yep. Yep.

And you also said that something you said earlier, you said you were made a million dollars at 15, is that right?

Yeah.

But then you were kind of broke for 15 years.

So I made all this money in the stock market early on because I had a lot of desire, a lot of energy, I just didn't know where to put it. And so I started to trade and it started to do really well. But that's when my life started to get out of control as a teenager. And I became a gambler. I started to, really? Oh yeah, I started playing poker eight hours a day.

Oh man, I did that back in, oh yeah. Ten years too. College, just like poker till 4 a.m. Till 4 a.m.

Sometimes I'd go in, I'd go into a casino on like a Sunday and.

Come out on a Tuesday.

Oh man.

We weren't in C-Daylight.

I was like playing like $15 hands with like college buddies, not casino life, but yeah. But that, I mean, it's never enough, so casino life was the next thing. And so I was doing that and I realized, why am I like, I just kept feeling more and more drain, right? You got the highs and then you feel low. And once I started to learn Kabbalah, I started to realize that the highs and the lows were I was drawing energy, but I didn't create the vessel to hold this energy. Gambling, drugs, alcohol, sex, all of these things draw energy. You're drawing God. You're drawing the universal force of creation. The reason why it ends up causing chaos is there's no vessel to hold this energy. So you short circuit. And what does a short circuit look like? There's a flash of light and then there's darkness. But the flash is very bright. That flash is very addictive. So most people, they draw energy, but there's no vessel to hold it, which we can explain what that means, to create a vessel. There's no vessel to hold it. They feel this flash, and then there's darkness, there's emptiness, there's addiction. Because they may not know spiritual laws, they'll go right back to more flashes. to feed the addiction.

So it sounds like there's a almost a three-step process is what I'm seeing. Number one, learn to draw the energy you want to you. Number two, create the vessel within you so that you can hold it. And I'm assuming number three is where to bring that energy, how to be of service with that energy, and then just continue to draw have a container big enough to hold it and then pour it out into others.

Is that a... That's a beautiful way of putting it.

So how would we first draw energy to us of the things we want to manifest more?

The way we draw energy to us is first to be clear about your belief system of what you deserve to receive and what you're meant to receive.

How do you get clear on what you deserve and are meant to receive.

Whatever your desires are, it means you are meant to receive them at some point. Don't question that. So if you actually had to write down all your desires, these desires, the Creator gave you these desires, so you go out and manifest them.

What's the difference between a desire and a temptation? Because you could be like, I want to just like crazy, crazy drugs. And I don't know, just like stuff that's not a spiritual energy, but I What if it's the desire? I feel like it's a desire I'm supposed to go drink all night and.

Gamble all night and just whatever. Correct. So this is what I tell people. I say all of these things that are given to us, drinking, gambling, drugs, sex, these are all, for example, let's say if you go to Costco, Costco has samples and you eat a sample and you like the sample, but if you like the sample, you need to.

Go buy the full product.

Nobody goes to Costco all day long and they just eat samples. You don't just sit by the sample station all day long to fill your belly with the samples that they give you.

Well, if you're poor, I've done that when I was broke.

Yeah, sorry, I got the only people who would just eat samples all day long. So when a person does a drug, what do they feel like? They feel like God. Fill this euphoria. This is a sample to eventually inspire you to buy the full product. The full product is to realize you can feel that -Without. -you- unlock the power of your soul. -Without the drug.

-Without the drug. -But most people think the drug is the power to unlock more. And so, they need to keep going back to the plant medicine or the drugs that create the awakening, the awareness to then feel, heal, see, do things differently, as opposed to creating from within, right?

-Because no one has told them that they have the power inside of them that is nuclear. You have this power inside of you that is millions of times greater than any drug you're taking. But we've been told that we need to keep taking the drug to feel that way. But anyone that I've talked to who's.

Done the plant medicines, they're like, no, nothing is greater than this. This is the, this unlocks more than anything I could ever do on my own. And it's true.

It has unlocked more than they've ever experienced. So I don't ever tell people, don't do this plant, don't do this drug. When people tell me, I love sex. I'm having sex with everybody. Is there a problem with that? I said, That's fine. You can have sex with everybody you want. You can have all the drugs you want. I have, but I do want you to know that you have something greater inside of you that will give you even more pleasure and more euphoria. If you're open to it, we can talk.

And also, if you're doing the drugs or the alcohol or the sex or the addiction things that create this energy feeling, what does that do to your vessel?

See, that's the thing. You actually begin to shrink the vessel. How do we know? Because every time you take the drug, it's never as potent The next time you need more.

You need more frequently.

You need it more frequently. So you actually begin to shrink your capacity until you experience death. And then there's some kind of death or painful scenario that breaks your vessel open again, and then you start that process over. The only way to really expand your vessel spiritually is a concept, is a spiritual law that is certainty beyond logic. You have to be put in a dark situation. A difficult situation where you do not see any logical way of getting out of it, and then choose to have certainty that you can, even if you have to fake that certainty. But you have certainty beyond your logical mind, this breaks open the vessel and allows the next level of your soul to come in to hold this energy.

Yeah, and what you said about, you've said this about certainty. Certainty is the way to guarantee a positive outcome. As long as you have complete certainty beyond logic, that everything is good and will be good, you are guaranteed to have the outcome be good.

Absolutely.

But how do we get to a place of certainty if I'm in such a dark place of pain physically, emotionally, relationally, financially, and nothing is working out for me? I've been suffering for years. How do I even have the energy to believe in certainty beyond my current state of being?

Well, does it just have to be.

More and more pain until you're just like, you have a breakthrough? Like, pain is not enough. It has to be extreme? Pain is the circuit breaker.

So pain is the final thing that the universe sends you to get you back on track. But a lot of people live in.

Like low negative pain. It's not enough pain, I feel like sometimes. It's probably not.

They're drip feeding. They're getting drip-fed pain. They're just low levels of suffering. Yes. So what happens is the minute you actually have a desire To be successful in your life, you speed up the process. And what happens is then pain comes really quickly to break you open to get you there. So it always starts with a desire. If a person has no desire to receive anything in their life, they also will never go through any pain, and they will always stay at that low level vibration of kind of nothing really happening. But the moment you say, Hey, Louis, I'm ready to get married. I'm ready to have a child. I'm ready to find my passion. I'm ready to heal. I'm ready to be better. Then all of a sudden, all of these challenges come to awaken and show you the negativity that your soul came to the world with that's blocking your vessel. And that's a good thing. So our job here is to show people you're in pain. That's a good thing. You see your garbage. That's a good thing. You're more angry than ever before. It's a great thing. People are speaking badly about you. This is a good sign. All of this is a good sign to show that your vessel is now cleaning itself out.

Cleansing.

You have to see your negativity in order to cleanse it. Everyone sometimes feel like I'm at my lowest point. I can't, everything is going wrong. I'm seeing all my garbage. I feel like I'm not good enough. And I tell people, phenomenal. Now we are at the stage where we can start to build our vessel because you can see your negativity. And the moment you see the negativity and you embrace it, you say, I love my negativity. It goes away because light overcomes darkness. If you see darkness, just turn on the light. How do I turn on the light? Act like the Creator. What does that mean? What does the Creator act like? The Creator is a giving force. The Creator is a force of certainty. The Creator is a force of consistency. The Creator is a force of love. Well, what does that mean? Just start to do all of those things in small ways. Start to just say you have certainty. Call your mom and tell her you love her. Look at people in the street, give them a smile. It's all the little things we talk about. It sounds cliche. But if you act like the Creator, you turn on the light, the darkness goes away. Well, people say, well, how do I know that is going to happen? I do not know where the darkness goes. I just know when you act like the Creator, that vibration removes the darkness and it leaves.

-Yeah, it is really hard when you are in a suffering state to see beyond yourself. But the easiest way to get out of self and to get out of suffering is to get out of self by saying, How do I serve others? And how do I serve one person when I see them? How do I see someone on the street like you said and smile at them when they walk by and just try to create an exchange of joy and love. Can I spark light in them walking past me? Can I smile and say, hey, how's your day? And you kind of smile and walk by. And if you can spark that joy like 20, 50, 100 times a day, you become light. You become love. You become your vessel expands. And then you're able to draw in more of that love and light.

That's right.

But the best way to get out of yourself is to pour into someone else.

That is correct. And the Creator will always show you one pathway by which to do that. I always ask people, Is there one thing that comes to mind that you could do that would embody the light of the Creator? Always, they say, yeah. And I said, that is a message for you. You just have to turn on that little pilot light, and the universe will keep giving you more and more opportunities.

-Right. So the first step is learning how to draw energy, but you are saying we need to be clear on what you deserve and what you desire. How does someone learn to be clear that they are deserving and worthy of love, abundance, a beautiful relationship, when all they have witnessed growing up were their parents creating an environment or school creating an environment or friends creating an environment that reinforced they were not worthy or deserving of love or beautiful things?

-That is a great question. One of the things we learned in Kabbalah is that.