The #1 Subconscious Belief That's Keeping You From Everything You Want | Dr. Bradley Nelson

In this interview, Dr. Bradley Nelson, creator of the Emotion Code and founder of Discover Healing, discusses his 38‑year career uncovering the role of emotional baggage in physical and mental suffering. He argues that about 90 % of physical pain and the majority of conditions such as depression, anxiety, PTSD, phobias, and eating disorders stem from trapped emotions—unprocessed emotional energy that becomes lodged in the body as a "ball of frequency." He explains how these emotions can be inherited from ancestors, citing his own Irish lineage as an example, and how they manifest as a subconscious belief of unworthiness that blocks love, abundance, and health. Dr. Nelson introduces the concept of the "heart wall," a protective energetic barrier built by the subconscious when the heart is wounded; he estimates 93 % of people have one, and its removal often leads to sudden relief of pain, emotional freedom, and new romantic possibilities. He describes the Emotion Code, Body Code, and Heart Code systems—tools that query the subconscious mind (viewed as a holographic computer) via muscle‑testing to locate and release trapped emotions, physical trauma energies, nutritional imbalances, toxins, and misalignments. Numerous case studies illustrate rapid pain elimination (e.g., a chronic low‑back pain patient whose pain dropped from 9.5 to 0 after a single release) and broader life changes (e.g., a woman whose heart wall removal led to a new relationship). Dr. Nelson also shares anecdotes about remote healing of animals, heart‑transplant memory phenomena, and his personal spiritual experiences, emphasizing belief in a loving higher power as the most empowering belief. He provides practical resources: emotioncodenow.com, free videos, books (The Emotion Code, The Body Code, The Heart Code), and a global network of certified practitioners. The conversation concludes with reflections on greatness—defined as manifesting one's unique inner blueprint—and love, noting that thoughts and perceptions generate electromagnetic forces that reshape brain structures, reinforcing the mind‑body connection. The interview ends with a hopeful vision of a world where everyone lives from an open heart, manifesting their perfect blueprint.
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90% of all the physical pain that people have is due to emotional baggage. Really?
Yes.
What I have found over 38 years of doing this is that this emotional baggage is the single biggest common denominator for all of the physical and mental and emotional difficulties that we experience. Emotional baggage is, in my experience, the— by far the biggest underlying cause of things like depression and anxiety and phobias and panic attacks and PTSD.
He's a bestselling author and the creator of the Emotion Code. He's the founder and CEO of Discover Healing. Please welcome Dr. Bradley Nelson.
93% of people have a heart wall and don't know it. And so it's, it's the majority of people. It's how most people are living. And what's interesting is when people get rid of that emotional baggage, and especially when that heart wall, when that gets taken down, people often fall in love who never thought they would.
And what does a heart wall actually mean? Well, What is the number one negative subconscious belief that most people have that holds them back from reaching their fullest potential?
I would say that when it comes to belief, probably the thing that we see the most is feelings of unworthiness, undeserving. I don't deserve to have that and I don't deserve to have success. I don't deserve to have money. I don't deserve to have love. I'm not good enough. Right?
Why do so many people believe that they're not worthy of success, love, abundance, freedom, peace, or all of the joy that life has available for them? Is this condition from their environment? Is it from their ancestors passed down on this belief system? Is it just the language they hear from their parents and their peers? Is this the news they watch? Is it a combination of all of it? But where does this all come from?
I would say really it's, it's all of the above. I know that, for example, in my own case, my ancestors on my father's side were from Ireland. They were very poor. And a lot of those beliefs came down through the line to me, and I had to work on a lot of that. We all inherit emotional energies. Not only do we develop emotional baggage from the things we do in our own lives, the things that happen to us, the things that we do, the mistakes that we make, But we're also handed a certain amount of emotional baggage at conception from our ancestors and the things that they went through. And so that's one of the really exciting parts of the work that we do is that we teach people how they can identify that emotional baggage. And it may be that the reason now why they're feeling unworthy or why they're having a hard time with love, well, maybe it's because their 8th great-grandmother was jilted at the altar and that emotional energy was so powerful that's been passing down the line like a freight train. Or maybe some other ancestor was thrown into the poorhouse. And so they may have difficulties with money because of these deep, deep feelings, these energies that they're not even aware of. And yet they're directing or really misdirecting their lives. Yeah.
I mean, you've done how many sessions now and worked with people from the practice that you've done?
Thousands. I mean, yeah, we've certified over 17,000 practitioners. Well, almost 17,000, I think, right now in about 108 countries or so, trained them in the Emotion Code and Body Code.
But you've done thousands or tens of thousands of your own sessions working with people, right? From, you know, previously as a chiropractor, right? And then into more energy work and understanding people's energies and emotions. And what I'm hearing you say is, is it a sense of worthiness or a lack of worthiness and deservingness that is kind of one of the main things you read on people or sense or feel with people?
Let's talk about energy. Albert Einstein said, the medicine of the future will be the medicine of frequencies. And Nikola Tesla said, if you want to understand the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency, and vibration. And these very smart guys understood the nature of reality. And so, if you were to magnify your hand, for example, under a big microscope, if you kept zooming in past the level of the cell and past the level of the molecule to the level of the atom, you'd understand suddenly that there's really nothing solid there. Albert Einstein himself said that there is no matter as such. Matter is just frequency, energy that's been slowed down in its frequency enough that we can see it and touch it and so on. And so That's what our bodies are. Well, everything really is energy, including thought is energy, emotions are energy. So what we believe is that every emotion has its own specific frequency of vibration. So if you're feeling an emotion of anger and you're really angry, well, your body is feeling a different frequency. It's vibrating at a different frequency than it was a minute ago when you weren't feeling that emotion. Or if you're feeling an emotion of grief, that's a different frequency than anger, and they're all different. But what happens is Normally, when we feel an emotion, of course, it's always in response to some kind of a stimulus. We've seen something or thought something or someone said something to us or whatever. Normally, what happens is that emotion begins to well up. We begin to feel a specific emotion, a certain feeling, and we normally allow that emotional feeling to kind of— we acknowledge it and we just kind of allow it to dissipate and go away. And this is the normal way we deal with emotions. It happens to all of us every single day, multiple times a day. But sometimes we deal with it differently. Sometimes an emotion comes up and maybe you don't want to go there. And so you bury that emotion, right? Maybe you learned that that specific emotion is a bad emotion. You don't want to feel it. And so it comes up and you bury it. That will result in that emotional energy being unexpressed in the body. So it's a trapped emotion is what we call it. Now you can also develop a trapped emotion if an emotion comes up for you and you decide that you're justified in taking that emotion and in blowing it up to the nth degree. And those are the situations where usually afterward you're saying to yourself, boy, I really got to get a handle on myself.
Yeah.
I really blew up there. That was kind of embarrassing. We do that too. That will result in emotional baggage or these trapped emotions. Or sometimes things happen that are just overwhelming. Suddenly your spouse asks you for a divorce out of nowhere, or maybe suddenly you get a phone call that someone is injured or died. Or terrible things happen and those emotions are overwhelming and they can also develop into emotional baggage, emotional energy. So what happens to us is that we all have these emotional energies that inhabit our bodies and they misdirect our lives. They interfere with our ability to really create the lives that we're capable of creating.
Right.
What happens in the body then when we hold on to Emotions rather than expressing them in a healthy way?
Well, what I have found over 38 years of doing this is that this emotional baggage is the single biggest common denominator for all of the physical and mental and emotional difficulties that we experience. So for example, emotional baggage is, in my experience, by far the biggest underlying cause of things like depression and anxiety and phobias and panic attacks and PTSD and eating disorders and self-sabotage. 90% of all the physical pain that people have is due to emotional baggage.
Really?
Yes.
Wow. Unless it's like a car accident or a physical trauma that's happening.
Yeah.
Well, yeah.
Or you think that's tied to emotional pain too or emotional baggage?
The fascinating thing that I found when I was in practice, and I worked with a lot of athletes, but lots of other people coming in with all kinds of different problems with physical pain, Let me share a story with you. This guy came into my office one day and he's really got severe low back pain. It's like a 9, 9.5, bumping around 10 with his low back. And he's talking about surgery's his next stop and it's been going on for a while. And using the Emotion Code, I tested him and found he had a trapped emotion. The emotion was anger. And I needed to know a little bit more about this. That's one of the questions we ask of the subconscious mind. Do we need to know more about this? I got a yes answer and did a little more testing and found that this had started 20 years before. And he immediately remembered and he said, yeah, he said, I know exactly what that is. And I said, really? He said he was working for this company and he was wrongly accused of cooking the books basically, or embezzling. And he was completely innocent. And so he was There's no fury quite like that of being wrongly accused, and you know that you're not guilty. And so he was so mad about that. That emotion was so powerful, his body couldn't really process it. That energy became trapped in his body, in his low back. 20 years later, you see, when you have a trapped emotion, what we believe is that it's a little ball of energy. They're invisible, but they're about so big, about the size of a baseball or a softball. And what they do, wherever they lodge in the body, and they can lodge anywhere, they will distort the normal energy field of the body. And so because that's—
The flow of the energy in the body.
Exactly. The energy flow through the meridian systems interfered with because the body itself is just a very complex energy field. When you interfere with that and when you distort that energy field, you're interfering to some degree with chemical reactions going on in that area with maybe blood flow, lymph flow to some degree. When I released that trapped emotion, the pain level went from 9, 9.5 to 0 instantly. And this guy's walking around in my office and he's bending over and he's twisting this way and that way and he's saying, where did it go? Because it was completely gone. Now, why'd that happen? Well, when we release that energy, suddenly that distorting force is gone. But now think about this. This guy, a couple days later, came back into the office and he said, my back pain is still gone. He said, I still can't quite believe it. But he said, When I came in here, I had another problem I didn't tell you about. He said, for as long as I can remember, I've basically been what you'd call a rageaholic. He said, I've really just been a live wire. And he said, I'm always getting in arguments with my wife and I have to watch the road rage. I've had to go to anger management a couple of times.
Wow.
Hasn't really helped me. But he said, since you released that trapped emotion of anger from me, from that thing that happened 20 years ago, he said, I feel really different. He said, I just feel kind of calm and kind of peaceful. And he said, things that used to set me off instantly don't set me off anymore. He said, how did you do that? And I said, I don't know, because I didn't know.
At the time we didn't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But here's what we believe.
You also eliminate the pain. You're going to feel a lot more joy too. You're going to be less angry if you're pain-free.
True. But what we believe is that in that guy's life, think about this, he had this ball of anger, Literally this ball of frequency that if you could stick a probe into it and measure the emotion, it would go right to anger, right? He had that ball of energy in his low back all those years. So when a situation would come along in his life, like somebody cuts him off in traffic—
Instant reaction, right?
Instant, because part of his body's already vibrating at that frequency.
Gosh, I know that feeling. I had that for many years where it was like an instant It was like stimulus, anger reaction, as opposed to response from a neutral place.
Exactly. And that's where he moved to. And it's not unusual when those emotional energies are released. People often say that when they get rid of enough of their emotional baggage, that it's like stepping out of this old suit they've been walking around in into this totally different state of being. that is really who they were intended to be when they first arrived here.
Yeah, loving, joyful, peaceful.
Exactly.
High vibrations.
Exactly. What's the strongest daily practice to make sure that we are dealing or navigating our emotions as they come and go?
Well, it's important, I think, to realize that we have a choice, right? Most people, I think, kind of just automatically assume that they're at the mercy of their emotions, that if some emotion comes up— in fact, people say funny things. They'll say things like, you know, he made me so angry, or, you know, and of course nobody can make you feel anything.
What happens when someone says, the government makes me angry, my wife, my husband make me angry, my ex did this to me, it makes me angry still today? What is someone saying when they're saying someone else made them angry right now?
Well, of course, what they're saying is that that's what they have chosen. We're always choosing our own emotions. Now, of course, there are situations where overwhelming things happen and you don't have much control, but the rest of the time, it is possible to choose an emotion other than the one that is just naturally coming up for you. And if emotions naturally come up for you in situations that that maybe aren't really completely, you know, what you'd want to have happen, it's probably because there is emotional baggage that you have, emotional energy. What we find is that the average person has about 300 or so. If you're an adult and you've lived life, the average person has about 300 or so of these emotional energies, these trapped emotions in their body. And when I was in practice, I was just trying to help my patients get well. But see, I had been a computer programmer starting in the early 1980s. I had a business way back then called The Computer Tutor, and I'd go into people's offices that would have a new IBM PC. There was no software in the early days, and I would write the software. And that taught me a lot about logic and so on. And so when I became a doctor, it gradually began to dawn on me. That based on some work that other people had done, that there is really a computer within each one of us. And that computer knows with a perfect understanding exactly what we need. It remembers everything. It's like an archiving holographic computer that is within each one of us that remembers every face you've ever seen in a crowd, everything you've ever eaten or tasted or touched or smelled, every emotional experience you've had. It knows all of that. about your trapped emotions. It knows everything. So I began to realize that this subconscious mind is really a computer and it's capable of being queried. We can ask questions and we can get answers out of it because it's a binary computer, at least in terms of its interface. In other words, if someone holds out their arm, for example, if I were to say, my name is Brad, if you were to press down on my arm, I could resist you. I'd be strong because that's a true congruent statement. And that's my internal computer agreeing. But if I were to say something like, my name is Bob, which is untrue, then I would weaken. And that's the internal computer. And so what I've been able to do is take that basic interface knowledge and develop it to a higher degree, I think, than anybody else has been able to do. Because now with this work, we've been able to really open up this— open up the subconscious mind like a book really, and find out exactly— what the problems are. And, that's how it worked when I was in practice. And, it worked so well that the last 10 years that I was in practice, most of the people that I saw have been told there was no help for them at all in Western medicine, and yet they were able to get better.
So, do you feel like most pain is caused by trapped emotions? Most pain in the body?
That's my experience. About 90% of people's physical pain is from emotional baggage. Now, it's not 100%. It really is an amazing thing. And that's what I found when I was in practice, because of course, as a chiropractor, I had all kinds of people coming in to see me for physical pain, very common. And what I found, because I had learned how to communicate with their own internal computer, when I would ask, is there an underlying reason why you're having this pain? The majority of the time it was emotional.
How many years in your practice did you realize that You can't necessarily heal matter with matter. You can't just treat the body by itself without also treating the emotions.
Yeah. Interesting. It was really kind of a gradual process. I kind of have an obsessive nature a little bit, and I was obsessed when I was in practice with helping my patients and getting to the underlying causes. I wanted to know why is this person in pain? Why is this thing, this problem not getting better? What's going on? What is really happening? So that was kind of the driving force for me. And so as time went on, I was learning everything that I could from every place that I could, from ancient sources, modern sources, going to seminars, learning from other doctors, anything I could learn. And I also had a habit of asking for help from up above. And it was really actually a very powerful answer to prayer that got me into the healing arts in the first place.
Really?
Yes. And so I had this It was a totally private, totally personal habit, but when a patient would come in to see me, before I would go to work on them, I would just offer this silent prayer and ask for help. And I'll tell you something, there were times when a patient would come in and I wouldn't know how to take care of them or approach their problem. And in response to that little ask, information would flood in.
Wow.
Just like an avalanche. You want to hear one of them?
Sure.
Let me tell you one. One day this guy comes in to see me. He's 42 years old. He tells me that 4 years before, he was in a car accident. He was sitting at a light in his car, stopped, and another car hit him at a high rate of speed from behind. And he got whiplash, a lot of damage to his car, everything else. But he said that his neck never stopped hurting.
For 4 years.
For 4 years. And he said he'd seen 2 doctors during that time, but he said that his neck right then at that moment was about a 9 on a 0 to 10 scale, really hurting. And he said it still feels like the day after the accident. And I thought, well, that's kind of weird, right? So I said this silent prayer and I said, okay, Father in heaven, this seems kind of strange to me. If there's something I need to know about this, Help me to understand this because this just kind of seems odd. And this answer flooded in. And the answer was that in the accident, when all of that kinetic energy was released, some of that energy that was going through his body actually got stuck in his neck.
Trapped.
And that was the answer. So it was actually what we now call a physical trauma energy. So I thought that was the answer. And I thought, okay, well, there's energy from the accident. That's really weird, but okay. So I swiped a few times over the magnet down his back, down his governing meridian with an intention to release that energy. And I said, okay, try it now. And so he moves his head like this and looks around and he said, how did you do that? And I said, well, how does it feel? And he said, well, he said, I'd say it's about a 2.
Wow.
And I said, well, when's the last time it was a 2? And he said, oh, before the accident. So this is something that most people have and have no idea. Think of all the traumas. Think of all the hits you've taken. There's trauma, no doubt, stored in your body, and those can be released. I remember I was at not too long— I hesitate to even tell this story because it sounds so fantastic, but I'll tell it anyway. I was at this event, this networking event in Vegas. The guy that sat down next to me had the worst limp of anybody I've ever seen in my life. And, I started talking to him and he told me that about 3 or 4 years before He was, he fell asleep at the wheel and he ran into the back end of a dump truck at 100 miles an hour. He got very injured, severed one of his feet, and they were able to reattach his foot and so on.
Yes.
So I started working on him using what we call the Body Code, asking his subconscious mind what we need to release. And there were multiple physical trauma energies we had to release and emotions, the emotional energy that he absorbed from his wife when she came to the hospital room and he was practically dead. He absorbed that emotional energy, cleared that out. And every time I would clear something, his ability to walk without a limp would change. And that guy ran a 5K about 2 months later.
Really?
Yeah. It sounds unbelievable. And it actually is kind of unbelievable, but it really did happen. So the message here, see, Is that all along we have had within us this, really this incomprehensibly powerful computer that we've never really known how to talk to. We've never really known how to get information out of it, but it knows everything about us. It knows why you have a symptom. If you're diagnosed with some kind of a disease, believe me, your subconscious mind, that internal computer knows exactly why. And it knows what needs to be done to help you to maximize your life in every possible way. The answers are all inside, but we haven't been asking until now.
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If someone watching or listening right now is hearing this and saying, okay, this sounds interesting, but how can I do this for myself? I don't have access to a practitioner or I'm not going to go find someone that can help me with this. How can I start doing this for myself right now to release these emotions that maybe I've been storing for years so that I can start to feel more free in my body, start to feel more flow in my body, right?
Absolutely. Well, what we have done, my team has set up a special website actually for your listeners and that's at emotioncodenow.com, and they can go there. And we've got some special videos that are free that they can watch and they can learn how to do this. They can learn how to release their first trapped emotion. And there's information there about the books. And if they want to, they can book an appointment with a practitioner. We've got lots of them all over the world. And by the way, one of the cool things about this is that it's energy medicine in its purest form. And so it's not bound by distance. So you might find that the person you love working with that helps you the most, maybe they live in Singapore or Berlin or something.
Wow.
Remote healings.
Remote, yeah, it works remotely. And you know what else is great? It works on animals.
Wow.
And that's one of the really fun proofs of this work because animals, you know, they just get better. And so there's no placebo effect, right, with animals. And it definitely works. In fact, one of my very favorite stories is My wife and I got a call one day to work on this horse. It had a problem with its hindquarters. It wasn't tracking right, and so they couldn't ride it. And they had a vet come out and look at the horse, and there wasn't anything obviously wrong. So then we got a call. So we go down to work on this horse. So when you work on a horse, back then what we would do is I would have one person put a hand on the horse and then hold out their other arm, and then I would talk to the horse. And then the answers coming from the horse's subconscious mind would manifest on that person's arm, strong or weak, right?
That's crazy.
It is crazy, but I'm telling you, it worked. That's how we did it. So I think the horse's name was Ranger. So if you can imagine, I've got somebody touching the horse, holding out their arm, and I'm talking to the horse. Is your name Ranger?
Yes.
All right. Do you have a trapped emotion that is contributing to the problem with your hindquarters? Yes. What's the emotion? Is it in column A? No. Okay, it's in column B. Is it in an odd row? No. So is it in row 2? Okay, it's in row 2 or whatever. We quickly found the emotion was sorrow. We narrowed it down. So then I'm asking these questions like, well, was it sorrow about another horse? No. Was it about a dog? No. A cat? No. A human? No. And I'm kind of running out of ideas. And suddenly a bird flies overhead. So I thought, well, all right. Was it about a bird? Yes, rock solid. And I started laughing and so did all these other people standing around. This would always gather a little crowd of interesting people that were interested to see the crazy doctor come and talk to the horse. So we're all laughing, but the horse's owner was there and she said, you know what? She said, wait a minute. She said, I think I know what this is about. She said that the week before, right in front of this horse's stall, a baby bird fell out of its nest and fell down onto this little paved pathway and struggled for its life and died.
Aw.
And so I asked the horse, is that what caused this emotion of sorrow? Yes. And so then, you know, just took a magnet and swiped it down the horse's back, right? 3 times to release that emotional energy. They took the horse immediately out and walked it and the lameness was completely gone. Wow.
That's crazy.
Yeah. I got so many stories like that. We have over 10,000 stories like this.
So walk me through the different codes then, because you have emotion, you have body and belief. Why did one lead to the next instead of The first one being all you needed.
Right. Well, The Emotion Code book, I left practice in 2004 because I was practicing all week long, 60 hours a week, and then going and teaching seminars on the weekend, trying to get the word out about this. And I finally realized, okay, it's time for me to just do this and I've got to write a book. So that was The Emotion Code. Well, The Emotion Code is all about how to get rid of your emotional baggage. how to get rid of it from your animals, how to talk to them and get information and how to work with people at a distance and how to release inherited emotions and so on. And so that's The Emotion Code. And The Emotion Code, of course, has been translated now into many, many languages around the world and so on. The next book really was The Body Code. And what happened was, I had taught bits and pieces of this whole method that I had learned when I was in practice because I was an old computer programmer. I always had a computer there with me. And when I would find something new, I would add it to this big mind map that I was building. And it eventually turned out that there were 6 different categories of imbalances that cause our sicknesses and so on. And emotions are in one of those categories. And the physical trauma energy we talked about, that's in that same category. But then there's also, there are nutritional and lifestyle issues. There are pathogens that get into the body that set up housekeeping. There's toxins and misalignments and disconnections between the spirit and the physical body and organs and glands and circuitry and all kinds of stuff. So I thought when the Emotion Code book came out, I remember thinking, okay, eventually Doctors, I'll teach doctors all this other information because it'll be great for them. It'll change their practice like it did mine. They'll be able to get, you know, have great success with everybody. And that was my thought, just kind of a loose idea. Well, about a year later, I woke up one morning and my mind was full of instruction. And the instruction was, you need to take everything you've learned about natural healing and put it into a self-study course that anyone can learn. and make it available to everyone everywhere. And it was so clear. This was not coming out of my own head. It was from up above. And I remember thinking, well, wait, are you sure about this? This sounds like it could be a lot of work.
I don't know.
So I sat on that for about 3 months and then I finally got to work. And that was the result of that after about a year was what we call The Body Code, which is this really breakthrough revolutionary way to give the subconscious mind rails essentially to be able to know how to ask the subconscious mind questions to take you wherever. So it's kind of like just a simplified way to get the information from the subconscious. You don't have to be psychic. Anybody can learn how to do this. In fact, kids can learn how to do it. So that's the Body Code. So then eventually I wrote the Body Code book. And the Body Code book is really kind of the handbook for the app. We have this app called the Body Code, the Body Code System. Well, when we wrote The Emotion Code book, when I wrote it, my wife and I talked about it and we realized eventually one day we were going to need to write another book just about the heart wall because the heart wall is this other topic that is arguably the most important part of this work. And it has to do with the heart and And the heart really— the ancient peoples believed that the heart was the seat of the soul and the source of love and creativity and romance. They believed that the heart was the core of our being and all these great things. In the West, we've never really given any credence to those ideas. If anything, we've thought, well, those people anciently, they just had a lot of poetic license. They didn't have the kind of instruments we have today.
Sure.
But guess what? Now we're finding out, oh gee, it looks like they were right. And we've been wrong. We know, for example, now that people can literally die of a broken heart.
Crazy, right?
Right. Yeah.
Crazy.
And it happens, unfortunately, probably almost every day. It was the Japanese that actually came up with that. They, they found that women of a certain age, you know, over 65 or so, if they were going through some emotional event that was traumatic, they'd go into heart failure and their heart would assume the shape of what looked exactly like what they call a takotsubo or a Japanese fisherman's jar. that the Japanese fishermen use to catch octopus. A tako is an octopus, right? So, it's a takotsubo octopus jar. And, I've seen the X-rays, it's weird. The heart looks exactly like that. And so, the heart's failing, but those are cases where eventually, I mean, if you survive it, the doctors will say, well, it wasn't really a myocardial infarction. Your enzymes are normal, but we don't know what it was. But if you have something like that, I mean, if you felt like you're having a heart attack, go to the hospital. But people die of this. It's the emotions though.
It's not a heart attack. It's more like the grief or the trapped emotion that they don't release.
Yeah, exactly.
They don't process.
I had a case once. In fact, one of the very first cases that I saw many years ago, this woman came in and she thought she was having a heart attack. And she'd been a patient of mine. I hadn't seen her for a month or so, but she comes in. She's got crushing chest pain, difficulty breathing, left arm completely numb, left side of her face totally numb.
Wow. It's like a stroke or something.
Well, our office was right next to a medical center. And so I told my staff, look, just stand by, give me 1 minute with her. And in that 1 minute, using what we now call the Emotion Code, I was able to find out that she had a trapped emotion of grief that had gotten trapped in her body 3 years before when she found out her husband was having an affair. And when we landed on that, she burst into tears and she said, I can't believe that's affecting me. I thought I dealt with all that.
Mm-hmm.
And when I released that trapped emotion from her, the feeling came back into her arm and into her face within about 3 seconds. The chest pain melted away. The difficulty breathing was gone. 10 minutes later, Lewis, after joking with me and my staff and talking with us, she left the office feeling totally fine. And I remember after she left, sitting down at my desk, with my head kind of spinning thinking, wow, what did I just witness? But see, think about life. I mean, imagine being born into a planet where you can't feel any emotions at all.
Hmm.
I mean, imagine not being able to feel happiness or joy, but not feeling grief or sadness. Imagine not ever being able to feel excited again. Imagine not ever being able to feel depressed again. Well, The emotions are the color, right? They give all the color to the fabric of our existence. Without emotions, life wouldn't really even be worth living, right? It would just be a flat line. It'd be just a grayscale. And so emotions are so important to our lives, but we're finally beginning to realize that we have emotional baggage.
Mm-hmm.
That animals develop emotional baggage. In fact, can I share a story with you really quickly?
Sure.
This is from a woman named Laura from Florida. She said, Octavia, a 15-year-old girl who sells organic eggs from her pet chickens, faced a heartbreaking situation when a raccoon killed 4 of her birds. The survivors were so traumatized that they began coming into the house through the dog door and sleeping in the guest room. She held each of the 10 survivors and shared their names with me, and I released different trapped emotions from each bird. This is probably at a distance. The very next day, they returned to the yard as if nothing had happened.
Wow.
Wow.
What do you think is the biggest thing people get wrong about the subconscious mind?
Well, I think what people get wrong about the subconscious mind usually is that they just don't know. They have no idea how incomprehensibly powerful it is, right?
Is it more powerful than the conscious mind?
Oh, absolutely.
Really?
Yeah.
Why is that?
Think of it this way, okay? All of your life, your subconscious mind has been keeping you alive, creating millions of new cells every minute. For example, they say that every cell in the body is equivalent in complexity to a full-size aircraft carrier with thousands of people on board working at their individual jobs, with jets on the ramp, with and spooled up ready to take off. That's how complex a single cell is. And, you know, there's probably 35 or so trillion of those or maybe more, you know, in our bodies. Your subconscious mind knows what's going on with every single cell down to the quantum level.
Wow.
Right? I mean, if you needed to, you could ask your subconscious mind about one single individual cell and it could answer any question that you wanted to about that cell. It's mind-blowing, right? There are trillions of chemical reactions going on every moment in your life. Your subconscious mind is supervising all of those. I think that the subconscious mind is the most powerful computer that exists in the known universe. And we just don't even think about it. We take it for granted. It runs our lives. It keeps air moving in and out of our lungs, keeps our hearts beating and all of that. And it also is remembering everything. And so I think that that's what people miss is that it's, well, it's divine. I believe in nature. I believe that we're children of God, that he created these spirits for us, and that we literally, in a very, very literal way, are brothers and sisters in the most literal way possible. We have the same father. We come from the same family. We're all from the family of God.
Right.
We might look different, but we're really all the same.
Yeah. Why do you think the conscious mind is so bad at knowing what the subconscious already knows?
I asked a question once because what I used to do, I had heard that the conscious mind is maybe 10% of our intelligence, right? And so I had taught that for a long time and then I thought, maybe I don't think it's 10%. It can't be quite that much. So one day I actually muscle tested this on somebody, and I've done this on several people. And what I get when I muscle test this and ask the subconscious mind, I get that the conscious mind is 0.00000001% of our intelligence.
Really?
Yes. Isn't that interesting? And you know, when people die and they go to the other side, I mean, imagine if you could move the decimal point just one place, it'd be incredible. But people die and they go to the other side and they come back and sometimes they talk about how their mind expands in this incredible way and they can ask as many questions as they want at the same time and all the answers flow in spontaneously and are all understood perfectly.
When they die and come back.
When they die, when they're on the other side. So I think that in this life, yeah, I think our ability to access our subconscious mind is dialed back to a great degree. And I think that there are reasons for that. I think That we're here to learn—
Too powerful or what?
Well, I think that, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think that we're here to learn to live by faith and we're here in this environment where we have everything that we need, right? And ultimately, when you get to the end of your life, you find out that your life is the end result of all the choices that you made and hopefully you chose wisely, right? But when you die, if you watch these near-death experiences, People talk about how there's never really any judgment, even if they see their whole life. And they often report how they get to experience the things that they did or said through the eyes and through the feelings of other people.
The ripple effect, right?
Yeah.
They get to experience it from all sides, which is really amazing. But it's never about judgment. It's always just about learning, right? And so, yeah, I think that this is a very important part of our learning We're here. And I think the most important thing we can do is to learn how to love, right?
Yeah.
And what's interesting is when people get rid of that emotional baggage, and especially when that heart wall, that wall that gets built up, when that gets taken down, people often fall in love who never thought they would.
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What do people's life look like when they're living with a heart wall without actually knowing it?
Well, about 93% of people have a heart wall and don't know it. And so, it's the majority of people. It's how most people are living.
And, what does a heart wall actually mean?
The heart is everything the ancients believed it to be. And, we're finally beginning to realize all of that now. Well, when you feel like your heart's going to break at some point and you feel that physical sensation, which most people have felt and can remember at some point, maybe more than once. All right, for some people it's multiple times. The subconscious mind will build a wall to try to protect the heart because the heart really is the core of our being.
Keeps you alive.
It keeps us alive. And it also, there's a little brain in the heart, 40,000 neurites, and they've known about this for many years, but it wasn't until the early '90s that they actually looked at the communications between the brain up here and the brain in the heart. And what they found really was weird because they found that the vast majority of the communications were going from the heart brain to the brain in the head.
First from the heart to the brain.
Exactly. Indicating that, gee, maybe the brain that is in our heads is obeying the messages sent by the brain in the heart.
From the emotions, from the heart center.
Yeah, exactly. Interesting. They've also found interesting things about this little brain in the heart. that it actually has the ability of precognition. In other words, they've done tests and they found that there are times when a split second before something actually happens in reality, this heart-brain will register it. Isn't that interesting? Yeah.
Wow.
So I think that information that comes into us, inspiration from above, comes into the heart-brain, right? And you know, it's so interesting because when people have heart transplants, They sometimes inherit the memories of the donor, sometimes, you know, the affinities of the donor. I mean, you get a heart transplant, suddenly you love baseball. You talk to the heart donor family and they'll say, well, yeah, our son was a baseball player. His heart's beating in your chest now. Wow.
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah. Amazing things. One of the most incredible ones was this 9-year-old girl who got a heart transplant from another young girl who had been murdered. And when she recovered, she started having these nightmares, nightmares that she was being killed. And the nightmares were so consistent that her parents took her to the police and they were able to make composite drawings from her descriptions.
No way.
No, I'm serious. From her descriptions that the murderer and the murder weapon, they led to the arrest and conviction of the actual murderer. And, the moral of that story is if you're going to get a heart transplant, don't get one from somebody that was murdered.
Right, exactly.
Wow. That's what I'd say.
Wow. It's interesting because I always felt like I was a very loving kid, loving teen, loving adult, just loving in general, but I had a lot of anger as well. When something would happen, I would feel an instant reaction if it felt like it was unjust or if I felt like it was an abuse or an abandonment or some type of feeling, right? And even if it wasn't happening, if I interpreted it as happening, I would feel that. I would feel that friction or frustration or blockage.
Okay.
And it wasn't all the time necessarily, but it'd kind of come and go. And then I'd have some breakthroughs and I'd have some healing and then it'd get a little better, but then it was still kind of there, right? Until 5 years ago, I was doing some pretty deep therapy healing work. And at one point, And something that my therapist said to me after, and I was doing 6 to 7 hour sessions at a time. So I was like, it wasn't just let's talk for an hour and like come back in a few weeks. It was like every weekend, 6 to 7 hours at a session. Let's figure out what's really going on.
Intense.
Intense. And it was a lot of exercises, role-playing, you know, emotional things, all these different things to kind of see what's coming out And at one point, kind of all the work and all the reflection and all the experiences and lessons finally landed, finally connected to my heart.
Mm-hmm.
Where there's something that she said, and I finally was like, oh, okay. Like my body finally got it. And there was a pain in my chest that I was having for a number of years that would come and go.
Mm-hmm.
And I was feeling it at that moment. And it was like kind of a heaviness, a weight, or a clenchedness on my heart. And all of a sudden, like, it finally resonated to where it was like almost like a pop sensation where I thought I hurt myself.
Huh.
And I'm sitting here on a— in a chair, right? I'm not doing anything physically active. And I thought like I hurt myself because it's like my brain, my heart, my whole body had a realization, an awareness. that I am safe and I'm going to be safe. And this pain popped and it was almost like plasma or like a sensation of like rushing through my body from every angle, from my heart, all through my body, my head, my fingers, my toes rushing. And I remember just being like, oh shoot, what's going on? I was like really nervous because like I wasn't gonna be able to control anything. And I felt this rush throughout my whole body and all I was doing was was sitting there.
Yeah.
And I remember saying, like, after a couple of minutes, I go, something's happening right now. Give me a moment. And after a couple of moments, I go, man, I have zero pain in my chest anymore. And I'd felt pain for years. And I don't know if, I don't know if that was an extreme heart wall that I was, you know, living with for many years that finally kind of had a release or some type of sensation energetically that then rushed to my body. I don't know I don't know physically how to calculate what happened physically in the body, but is it something that you might be able to explain what chemically happened or physically happened with that pain release from the heart and rush throughout the body?
Well, I've seen this kind of thing many times with people. I mean, not exactly as you describe, but I've seen lots and lots of people with heaviness in the chest that they have for years and decades. And, one of the beautiful things about The Emotion Code, for example, is that it's very, very fast. Now, it took you a lot of work and a lot of hours and many sessions where usually we're able to get results like that with people often in a single session or a few sessions.
Yeah. Does someone ever have that type of sensation where they say something exploded in their heart and there was a rush throughout their body?
Yeah.
I wonder what that was.
It was probably some emotional baggage that your subconscious mind was holding on to that finally through all that processing, you were able to release. And then suddenly you had blood flow.
Really?
Yes, that's probably what it was. I've seen that kind of thing before where when we have trapped emotions, they will definitely interfere sometimes with blood flow. And when you release, all of a sudden people can feel blood flowing. It's really interesting. I mean, yeah, it's a quantum phenomenon really, but then there's also, of course, all these physical effects. But I'm glad you had that experience.
I mean, too, because I've had that heart pain in 5+ years. And you say that people, once they've kind of let go of this heart wall, they tend to find love pretty quickly or they bring more love into their life.
They often do. Let me share a story with you. One of my very favorite stories is One of the very first people that I worked on after we had this experience where we learned about this heart wall, and that was an interesting experience, but one of the very first people I worked on was this woman who came in to see me. She had neck pain. Her neck pain was about a 9 on a 0 to 10 scale. And as I was talking with her, she told me that she was a nurse. She was 38 years old and she was single. She had not dated in 8 years and she was never going to date again. She was sworn to being single the rest of her life. And she was an attractive person. And I said, well, how'd you arrive at that? How'd you make that decision? And she said that 8 years before, she was really deeply in love with this guy that dumped her and broke her heart. And that was it. No more dating.
I'm not going to open myself up. I'm not going to be vulnerable anymore.
Never again. And she's got this neck pain and that's what brought her into the office, right? So I said, okay. So I start checking her and I find she has a heart wall. There are 3 layers, 3 emotions making up this wall. Now you can't see this wall, it's invisible, but these 3 layers all had to do with the breakup from 8 years before. So just took a few minutes, cleared 1, 2, cleared the last one. When I cleared the last one, suddenly the neck pain went from 9 to 0.
Wow.
I mean, just instantly. And she was so thrilled because that's why she'd come in.
The neck pain.
Yeah, the neck pain. So her neck pain's gone. Her heart wall is also gone. So she leaves the office feeling fine, doesn't come back. 3 months later, I'll always remember this. I saw her in my hallway in my office and I said, hey, I said, how are you doing? What's going on? She said, you know, she said, my neck has been fine since I was here, but she said, you cleared that heart wall for me and that really works. She said, about 2 weeks after I was here, I ran into my childhood sweetheart and found out he's been living right around the corner from me for almost 8 years. And we're dating and we're in love. And I think he's going to ask me to marry him. Right? And I just thought, wow, what a switch, right? Now think about that. Why had she never— he lived right around the corner for 8 years. Why'd she never run into him?
She blocked it.
She blocked it. She had this wall up. And so didn't happen until that wall was gone. Let me tell you one other story, one of my favorite other stories about this. This woman brought her son in. He was 9 years old. And she said that what had happened was, first thing that happened was she found that he wouldn't hand in his homework. If he did it, he wouldn't hand it in or he wouldn't do it. And she'd go into his room sometimes at night and he'd be on the floor and she'd say, what are you doing on the floor? And he'd say, I don't deserve to be in a bed. Oh my gosh. And she thought, that's weird. And so finally she paid a surprise visit to his classroom one day only to find his teacher berating him for being pathetic. And so she took him out of school and tried to do homeschool. That didn't work. She took him to see a psychiatrist and a psychologist, and she was told that he was clinically depressed at 9 years old, but they couldn't be helped because he wouldn't admit that he was depressed. He had this grin kind of pasted on all the time. Because he knew he was supposed to be happy. He should be happy, but he was so depressed. And so he kind of had this fake sort of smile pasted on. He's 9 years old. He's trying to deal with it, right? So my wife and I worked on him. We found he had a heart wall and there were several layers, several emotions making up this wall. And they all had to do with tragic things that had happened in the extended family. And a couple of cousins died in a car wreck and so on. And So these layers, we cleared those layers, took us about a half hour total. We got to the very last emotion, the one that had actually formed this heart wall. Here's what had happened. He was 5 years old at the time. His big sister was babysitting him at this family reunion at a lake in California. And they were out on this dock and there was no adult supervision around. It was the two of them. But also they were joined by this other little boy that she was watching, a little 5-year-old cousin. his best friend. And she decided it would be a great idea to try to teach this little cousin how to swim. And his body disappeared under the dock. And about an hour later, the divers pulled his body out from under the dock. And of course, he's long dead.
Oh.
And his body's blue. And the crushing weight of guilt that his sister is feeling, For having such a horrific thing happen on her watch as the babysitter.
Oh.
That emotional energy, that emotion of guilt became absorbed into his body and immediately formed into a wall of energy around his heart to protect his heart because his heart was breaking, right? For her, but also for his best little friend that now was dead. And so that was the last emotion that we cleared. And then the muscle testing showed the heart wall was gone. So she takes him home. So in the next couple of days, he's just kind of lying around lethargic. And she was thinking, well, it doesn't look like that really worked either. But on the morning of the 3rd day after we worked on him, he got himself up early, got himself ready to go to school and got his lunchbox and his backpack. He comes downstairs and he says, mom, I can go back to school now. I'm a happy pappy. And that's a direct quote. And so he did go back to school and he went into the program for advanced kids because he was doing so well and all his learning disabilities were gone.
Wow.
Wow. And that kid, I think now is 37. And I think he's, you know, I don't know how many kids of his own he's got, but his mother told us after that, she said, if I had not been open to something so different, she said, my son would not have survived.
Wow.
You know, because he was so depressed at age 9. Think of that.
Yeah.
So the Heart Wall we have found is the single most powerful thing that there is for depression. You see, the thing is, I believe that the best ideas that you'll ever have won't really come from this brain in your head. They'll come from your heart brain really. And so, when people tell you when you graduate from high school or college and they say, follow your heart, that's great advice. But, what if you have a heart wall? And, 9 out of 10 people do.
Yeah, it's hard to follow it then.
It makes it much more difficult.
It's confusing because then you start following your analytical mind. Well, I should be doing this. This is like the thing that's the right thing to do, or as opposed to really following what your heart dreams of doing.
Yeah. And I really believe, Lewis, that there's a perfect blueprint that lies within the heart of every single person of the perfect life that they can have and that they can live. But if your heart is surrounded with all these layers of negative emotion, it just makes it so much harder. Wow. Yeah.
Can you unblock these trapped emotions yourself or do you need someone else to help you unblock them?
You absolutely can. You absolutely can. And lots of people have changed their lives. And so, for your listeners, emotioncodenow.com would be the place to go where they can actually— we've got videos and a little program where they can learn how to do this, how to release their first trapped emotion and walk them through it.
Wow.
Yes.
That's cool. Yeah.
And, all the information's in the books too. We don't hold anything back. You can learn the whole process in the Emotion Code book. The Heart Code book is all about the heart wall specifically. It's all in there because people need it. The world needs this.
Do you feel like if someone were to release the emotional baggage trapped around their hearts, they would be able to manifest more of what they want?
Well, absolutely. I mean, people can have other emotional baggage in their body besides that that's wrapped around their heart. But typically, when I was in practice, what I used to do is if somebody had some kind of a fire burning, for example, if they really had neck pain or whatever, I take care of that and then I go right to the heart wall.
Interesting.
But yeah, it happens all the time. This is from a woman named Joy in London in the UK. She said, the husband of my friend came to me for a session. He didn't want to tell his wife about the heart wall we cleared. So I waited to see if my friend noticed any changes. She called me the next day saying, I don't know what you did, but he has been so loving. She said that she had never felt more loved in her marriage. All the wrinkles on his brow had eased away and he was smiling more. She even mentioned a couple of months later that he could thank me for saving their marriage.
Wow.
That's cool. Well, this is a quote from your book, The Emotion Code. You say, those whose hearts are open will be the anchors for that divine energy that will transform and heal the world.
Exactly.
When we lack the ability to have an open heart, it sounds like we lack the ability to access the divine to transform and heal the world. But when we allow ourselves to have an open heart, which I guess is challenging if you have been hurt emotionally in the past or been let down or been lied to or abandoned or used or abused or taken advantage of or all these things.
And so many of us have been in one way or another, right?
Everyone has been at some point. One of those emotions has happened. And usually what happens is we then create a film over our heart, some type of callus, right? That says, okay, I don't want that to happen again. Therefore, I'm going to block that from happening. I'm not going to be as excited. I'm not going to be as emotionally available. I'm not going to be as loving towards people. I'm going to be more questioning. I'm going to be more guarded. I'm going to be more closed off, right? Because I was this and I got hurt, right?
Yeah.
I was in a marriage, And he cheated on me or she cheated on me or whatever it is.
Right.
And therefore I'm never— I'm always going to be single the rest of my life.
Yeah.
It's like a callus, right?
Yeah, exactly.
And it's hard to access the divine with a calloused heart.
Yeah.
It's hard to access abundance with a calloused heart.
Right.
And it's hard to transform your life and heal others with a calloused heart. So I love that quote from your book, those whose hearts are open will be the anchors for that divine energy that will transform and heal the world. So what does that actually look like day to day for someone to become one of those anchors?
Since better than 90% of people, we think about 93% of people actually have a heart wall. The most important thing I think first to recognize is that you probably have this phenomenon going on And it's interesting because not only does it affect you with your relationships and with your ability to create money in abundance and so on, it also has a huge amount to do with your health.
Yes.
When I was in practice, the last 10 years that I was in practice, most of the people that I saw had been told there was really no hope for them in Western medicine at all. And yet the vast majority of them with just a couple of exceptions were able to get well Why? Well, because I was asking questions other people weren't asking. And also because I knew about this heart wall phenomenon. And sometimes, well, every one of these patients would get a typical Western medicine exam, but they would also get another exam where I would check the balance of all the organs energetically, all the glands, all the chakras, all the meridians. And it wasn't unusual for these people who were so sick To find that all the organs and all the glands were out of balance and many of the chakras and meridians. And I would write all that down. And then sometimes with these people, I would just do one thing. I would just remove that emotional energy that had wrapped up and built around their heart. And then I would redo that exam, Lewis. And inevitably, every time I did that, I would find that 80% of all those organs and glands were humming away again, balanced perfectly, and the meridians and chakras too. And I found that it was the single most powerful thing that I could do for a person to help them to get well. We're living in the age of the heart now.
Mm-hmm.
And we finally have this knowledge. This heart wall is a real thing. I never in my wildest dreams would've imagined this goes on, that the subconscious mind builds a wall. And the funny thing about it too is that it will always have some symbolic material that it's quote unquote made out of. And so it's often building materials, like concrete or—
Why is that? It's not made of any material. It's just an energetic field, right?
Well, yeah, but I think to the subconscious mind, I think that it understands that you can't have a wall made out of nothing. And so, it'll choose something and it's interesting.
It'll interpret it as something. Yeah.
Yeah. It's a symbolic sort of a thing. And, we talk about it in The Heart Code. It's just an incidental sort of thing, but it's interesting because some people will have a heart wall that that's made of one-way mirror so they can see out but nobody can see in.
Oh, man.
I mean, we've seen all types of crazy things.
Now, I want to ask you about beliefs really quick because you talk about these different codes, emotion codes, body codes, and belief codes. If you were only able to give one prescription for someone listening or watching right now from all the experience you have from being a doctor to doing the energy healing work that you do now, And you could only prescribe people with one belief, what would you prescribe people to believe most?
I think probably the most powerful belief that a person can have is a belief in the higher power, but that that higher power loves them without limit. To believe that God Or the creator, source energy, or however you refer to it, has perfect love for you that fills the immensity of space itself. I think that's the most powerful belief you could have because then I think you would feel that you could do anything because you've got the backing of the supreme creator of the universe, right?
If people watching or listening don't have a belief in God and they don't have a belief that God truly loves them and wants them to be unlimited in their abilities. What would you say to them? And what do you think is holding them back if they aren't at least curious to believe that?
You know, we all come into this world and I had an experience one day. I was 18 years old and I was just sitting meditating very quietly and all of a sudden, I had this experience that I'll, that I'll try to describe. First, I believe that before we come into this world, we live with God in this place of indescribable beauty and high vibration and unconditional love and everything, right? And then we come into this world for these specific reasons, right? To, to learn and to make choices and, you know, learn from our choices, et cetera. But when we come into this world, there is a, a shield put over us or you might call it a veil. It's like the veil of memory. I talk about it a little bit. And I talk about this experience actually in the Emotion Code book, where our memories of where we were before are blocked off to us. We can't access them anymore, right? All we know is here we are, right? And this is all we know and all we've ever known. But we've been alive, I believe, forever before we come here. And so I'm sitting one day, 18 years old, just quietly meditating. And all of a sudden, It's like this window opens somehow, and suddenly every particle of my being is filled with the most overwhelmingly powerful feeling of homesickness that I can't describe, completely off the chart, to be back where I was before I came here, to be back where we all were. And this lasted for about 3 seconds. It was like this window opened and then it closed and it just left me reeling. And I realized from that experience a couple of things. I realized that we really truly are strangers here, just passing through because we come from somewhere that is— William Wordsworth said it. He said, trailing clouds of glory do we come into this world from God who is our home. And And I realized that, that we're strangers here, but I also realized that it's a good thing that we have that block on our memories, because if we didn't have that, I realized we would not be able to tolerate it here in this world for 5 minutes.
We'd want to go back or go beyond, whatever.
Yeah. So I've had some very interesting experiences and some very powerful spiritual experiences, and I know that God lives, that he loves us beyond our ability to understand. I had an experience at Disneyland once that I talk about in The Body Code book where one day I took some of our kids to Disneyland and I didn't really want to go that bad, but I took them, trying to be a good dad.
Yeah.
And so I got them in line for a ride and then I'm kind of walking around and just kind of in this pensive sort of state, not having really anything specific to do. And I'm noticing people, and you've been to Disneyland, there's all kinds of people from all over the world in all shapes and sizes and colors and everything else. And I remember thinking to myself, I'm sure these are all really nice people, but they don't really mean anything to me. I don't love these people. And I thought, I wonder what it's like for God, our Father in heaven. I wonder what it's like for him, because it says that he loves everybody, right? And that we're all his children. He must love all of What would that be like? And so I said this prayer and I said, help me to understand what that's like for you, God. And I didn't get an answer and I kind of just mentally shrugged my shoulders and went home. So when I got home, our 2 younger boys were absolutely just in shock and they couldn't believe I didn't take them to Disneyland. And they were a little younger, like 8 and 6, and I should have taken them, but I don't know what happened. But anyway, And they badgered me relentlessly and I finally said, all right, fine. And if you've ever been harassed and brutalized by kids, that's how that went.
Oh, yeah.
So the next Saturday I find myself back at Disneyland again and I get them in line for a ride and I go for a walk and I find myself kind of falling into the same thoughts from the week before. And I'm on this bridge at California Adventure walking over this bridge. And I'm noticing these people, and I have this thought. And the thought was, I wonder what it's like for our Father in Heaven who loves everybody. And all of a sudden, the prayer from the week before was answered. And I'll try to describe this because it's kind of indescribable, but all of a sudden, I was filled with this unconditional perfect love for all these people on this bridge. And I looked to my right and there was a ride over there with probably 200 people in line for this ride. And I have this unconditional love, this perfect love for all these people in this line. And this was so far outside of my realm of experience, right? And so far outside of my box that I suddenly felt panic and instantly it was gone.
Wow.
Just instantly shut I had that experience. I know that we have no idea how much we're loved. And that's the truth of our existence, is that we are so loved.
Yeah.
That's beautiful. I've got a couple final questions for you, Brad. This has been powerful. And I want people to check out all your work. You have The Emotion Code, The Heart Code, The Body Code. And if people go to discoverhealing.com/greatness, they can learn more about The Emotion Code. And I think there's another link you said something.
EmotionCodeNow.com.
EmotioncodeNow.com as well. You can go through a quiz or a test that you can learn more.
Yeah, we got lots of information there about the books. You can book a session with somebody. We've got the little course there that you can take where you can learn how to release. We'll walk you through releasing your first trapped emotion.
That's cool.
That's cool.
So everyone go there and check that out if you feel like you need to release something, which most of us do.
Yeah, I think so.
This is a question called the 3 Truths that I ask everyone towards the end. So imagine hypothetically you get to live as long as you want in this world, but it's your last day.
Yeah.
And you continue to create and serve and heal people and add value in the ways you want to. But for whatever reason on the last day, you have to take all of your work with you. This conversation, all of your books, everything you've ever put out there goes to the next place.
Yeah.
But on the last day, you get to leave behind 3 lessons to the world. And that's all we would have of your content left once you leave. What would those 3 truths be for you?
That God is real, that he lives, that he loves us all beyond our ability to understand, and that the most important thing that you can do in this life is to learn how to love other people unconditionally.
That's hard. Hard for a lot of people.
Yeah, it is. Well, it's not meant to be easy, I don't Yeah. But you know what's interesting is that as people release their emotional baggage, they become more capable of that love. In fact, we've had multiple people over many years tell us that when that heart wall is taken down, they can feel the love of the Creator for them.
That's beautiful. I want to acknowledge you, Brad, for the journey you've been on because it's been 22 years since you left your practice.
Yeah.
To explore how to bring more healing to more people. And I acknowledge you for going on that journey because probably 22 years ago, it wasn't popular to leave something that you had committed to your whole life essentially.
Yeah.
To being known as one thing in chiropractic and then going into this field of energy healing. So I want to acknowledge you for the journey that you've been on and the journey you'll continue To help people release trapped emotions and feel more free and feel more loved because that's what we all need more of.
So thank you, Lewis.
I want to acknowledge you for that. Yeah.
That's really kind of you.
Of course. And I want people to get your books, The Emotion Code, The Heart Code, The Body Code, or whichever one speaks to you. And if you feel you're having some type of trapped emotion, make sure to check this out because it can really help you release those emotions so you can create more freedom. in your life. And I believe when we have more freedom, we can reach our fullest potential and hopefully just be kinder to the people around us. And I think that's a big goal for a lot of people. So my final question for you, Brad, is what's your definition of greatness?
I heard one time the definition of spirituality is consciousness of victory over self and communion That's powerful. And I've always loved that because everybody has this perfect blueprint within them, and because it's different for everyone, but yet we all form this perfect mosaic. I mean, imagine if everybody in the world could have an open heart and could be manifesting into the world the perfect blueprint that's within them. Imagine what a world it could be. And I believe that's the world that's coming. And so to me, I think that greatness is simply, because it's different for everyone, I think that greatness is really just creating and manifesting that perfect blueprint that lies within your heart. What is it for you? It's different than mine and it's different from the next person, different for everybody.
Love.
But if you can manifest that perfect blueprint that lies inside of you, You've achieved your own greatness. That's what I think.
Brad, thank you so much for being here.
Appreciate it. Powerful. Thank you, Lewis.
Appreciate it.
It's been fun.
Whatever we say with our mind, how we perceive, how we look at things, that is going to influence what it looks like in the brain because whatever we think about becomes, for its electromagnetic forces we generate, that then changes structures in the brain and the body. And then the brain and the body just follow the bidding of the mind. So if I'm telling myself, oh,
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