The Manifestation Expert: “If I Was Broke Today, This is What I’d Do!”

If I was broke today, if I had nothing, what would I do?

Yeah, what's the step-by-step process?

There are four things that we need to do and do very well in order to manifest a miracle. When you're four out of four, the gates open immediately. When you're not four out of four, they become a struggle, they become harder. He is the co-founder of Mary Ruth Organics. They're expecting to do $400 million in revenue this year. His business acumen is just a game changer. His name is David Giammatteo. Every single person right now, no matter what your spiritual beliefs are, no matter where you are in your life, something has been revealed to you, at least one quality that you need to transform in order to create the miracle. If someone says, I'm trying to make more money, the first question I'm asking them is, what fear are you feeling right now? And it could be in a totally unrelated part of life. But it is correlated to the miracle.

What's a common fear you hear around people who say, I'm trying to make more money? And you ask them, what's your fear? common response?

I would say the most common fear and or quality that comes up for people when they're trying to manifest a miracle is...

Welcome back everyone to the School of Greatness. Excited about today's episode with David Gillee. We are talking about the step-by-step process from broke to millionaire and what that would look like and also how to make making money easier in your life? Because I think a lot of people struggle with making money or they feel like they have to work hard to make money. And I want to get into that in a little bit about, you know, do you need to work hard all the time or is it sometimes in order to make money? What does that look like? But you have, you've been on the show now many times and people love our conversations around this. In the last episode around money, we talked about the energy around manifesting money. And you, in my mind, are a money manifesting expert. You went from spiritual teacher for many years making no money to manifesting an abundance of money, having a billion dollar brand and business with Mary Ruth's Organics. And I wanted to ask you the first question. If you were broke today, all of the money was gone and you had to create a step by step process from going to broke to millionaire and beyond. What in practical terms would that look like for you? and would it be hard?

Well, first, very flattered by everything you said. And thank you for having me back. And, yes, I think our connection, our chemistry, and every time, like, I'm with you, like, the gates open, there's so much that comes. So I. I just love the time that we have together. If I was broke today, if I had nothing, What would I do?

Yeah, what's the step-by-step process?

And what is hard work? I think it's two beautiful questions. One, hard work is essential, but let's define what hard work is. A lot of people think, a lot of people are investing their energy in hard work and in the physical world. So it's the amount of hours I spend doing something. It's the amount of effort I exert in doing something. And one of the ways of looking at it is, The Kabbalah kind of explained, and I have simplified it in four quadrants. There are four things that we need to do and do very well in order to manifest a miracle.

-What is that?

-In order to manifest the miracle of abundance, wealth, love, whatever it is that you are looking for. And often the reason why people are working so hard but not seeing the miracle is they might only be focused on one of those four quadrants and investing all their energy in that one, but ignoring the other three, or maybe just three out of the four. It's when you hit all four that the gates open. And every time I've given the seminar, I ask everybody in the room, how many people are four out of four?

Wow.

Nobody, really, ever, including myself. When you're four out of four, the gates open immediately. When you're not four out of four, Things take time, they become a struggle, they become harder, and then the universe has to compensate for the quadrant you're not working on. So I'm going to get to those four quadrants in a moment, but what does it mean the universe has to compensate? The universe then has to push us or cause some form of pain and suffering to awaken us in that quadrant.

Okay, so what do we need to feel pain to then bring attention to it to start focusing on how to improve it?

Correct, because our attention often only flows to where there's pain. Now, if you can proactively put your attention somewhere, then the universe does not need to get involved. Then there is no signal sent to send somebody toxic to you, to make you fall in love with them, to then break your heart, to learn a lesson. There is no need for someone to come in to steal from you or to sue you or to sabotage your business in some way. There's just no need. There's no need for your family to be destructive all of a sudden and cause problems and drama. All of these things happen because a signal is being sent to pay attention to something. So what are the four quadrants? Spiritual work, which I'll define. There's physical work, certainty, and prayer. This is all technology. And when people hear this, I want to make sure you know, I am not a religious person. I do not ascribe to, let's say, a dogma or a specific path. Everything I'm sharing is what the great sages and kabbalists who understand the energy of our world, understand light and vessel, have explained how you can build the vessel to hold this energy in light of creation. Some people call it God, some people call it the Creator. that exists and is waiting to come into your life. Because our birthright is to be happy, to be fulfilled, and to have everything. This is what we are meant to receive. Every soul in this world. And all of creation is actually pushing us towards this point where we can receive all that. So what is this technology? What is Max Spiritual Work? We talk a lot about this in Kamala, and there is a whole step by step process to it. In essence, spiritual work is my soul came to this world with certain spiritual baggage, fears, limitations, and I am meant to transform them to get to a place of wholeness, which is the vibration of the Creator. That means that if I have a fear of abandonment, I'm transforming this. That means if I have anger issues, I'm transforming it. That means that if I'm a judgmental sarcastic person, or a person who's always seeing the bad, or a person who is feeling that they do not deserve. These are all qualities that do not exist in the Creator. The Creator does not have weakness. The Creator does not have fear. The Creator does not have jealousy. The Creator does not have these limitations.

And so why do we have these things if the Creator does not?

Because this is a very deep question. I will try to answer it. as simply as I can, we were created with this darkness in order to have the free will to choose to remove it. For example, if I got my five-year-old a puzzle for his birthday, and I said to him, I said, Elliot, can you wait right here? I'm gonna show you something really amazing. And I go and I make this 1,000 piece puzzle for him. And then I bring it to him. I said, okay, I brought you a gift. and I made the puzzle for you. Is he gonna be like, Dad, wow, you know, not only did you buy me a puzzle, but you also made it. Like, I love you so much. This is why you're my dad. Like, no, he's gonna look at it. He's gonna be angry. He's gonna be upset. He's gonna be like, I don't care for this. He's not gonna feel fulfilled. He needs a broken puzzle so that he can make it. Now, I will help him make it, and that feeling and when he puts that last piece himself, the joy he has that he completed something is like, no other. There's a difference between if you built a company or you took over your dad's company or your mom's company. There's a whole different level of feeling. Yes. So we were, we asked to have this level of darkness so that we could transform it and then finish the creation this way. The Creator didn't need that. We asked for it so that we could have the feeling of wholeness. So that's the first quadrant, spiritual work. And every single person right now, no matter what your spiritual beliefs are, no matter where you are in your life, something has been revealed to you, at least one quality that you can transform, that you need to transform in order to create the miracle. So at every given moment, we are being shown one negative quality at least. How? There are people who are literally triggering you and bringing stuff out. You may feel like a victim in certain things. You may feel that something is unfair. You may feel bitter. You may feel resentful. These are all feelings and emotions that are indicative of something that we need to transform. Yeah, but he did that to me. Yeah, but they took something from me. Yeah, but they... I gave them two years of my life and they cheated on me. All of this is a test since the time of creation that your soul asked for. this person that gave you two years of his life and your life and then left your soul asked for this in order to have all these emotions and feelings come up so you can transform them. And there was no other way to do it. There was no other way for you to see what needs to be transformed without this person coming. And so every single person right now is feeling something and going through some kind of fear or emotion or darkness that Kabbalah explains. And that is highly correlated in this place to trying to make a miracle. Okay, so someone says, I'm trying to make more money. The first question I'm asking them is, what fear are you feeling right now? And it could be in a totally unrelated part of life, but it is correlated to the miracle.

Really? That's the first quadrant. What's a common fear you hear around people who say, I'm trying to make more money, or I'm struggling making more money, or I'm in debt, and it's, I don't know what to do to make more money. and you ask them, what's your fear? What's the common response?

I would say the most common fear and or quality that comes up for people when they're trying to manifest a miracle is doubt.

They doubt themselves.

They doubt themselves. They doubt that they will be happy. They doubt that their current situation is good. They doubt that there is a creator or universal force that is looking out for them. Doubt is a quality that does not exist in the vibration of the creator. So as long as you have doubts, you cannot enter the miracle zone. Like imagine there's a gate and there's a guard at the gate, and only people who have certainty can walk in. So they look at you and they say, but you have doubts, you are not allowed to enter the room of miracles. So you could be an amazing person, you could be a sharing person, you could be a kind person. You could be a spiritual person. You could be a person who only does good for people, but if you have doubts, you cannot enter the world of miracles. So doubt is the key card. It is the VIP access. It is a miracle.

Okay.

So what does it mean to have certainty? It is not certainty that this will work out, or certainty that this person is my soulmate, or certainty that it is certainty that everything is good. Everything is from the Creator, and I feel whole and complete right now. Despite what I see, feel, and hear, I know it's an illusion and everything is whole. Like we said before, I am wealth, I am love, I am all of these amazing things, and I trust in the light of the Creator. All the variations of what I just said is certainty.

So if someone doesn't feel like they are whole or complete right now, and if they don't trust that they are in the right position in this moment, where they need to be from the Creator, from God, from the Creator. What's going to happen to them if they don't believe they are whole and they don't have certainty around that?

They enter a different destiny. So imagine you need to travel to San Diego from Los Angeles. You put it in Waze. Waze will give you the fastest path there. Also understanding the traffic. Let's say it takes about two hours. This is the path of miracles. The most direct- that would be a.

Miracle to get to San Diego in two hours.

In two hours, okay. So let's give it three. So let's get there in three hours. This would be akin to the path of miracles in our lives, which is the most direct path. If I decide to have doubts, literally I'm reprogramming the GPS to take a very long route and to go through a lot of windy streets and Eventually I get to San Diego in 19 hours. Now, I will get to that destination. So even people who don't operate on the vibration of the Creator, who don't do spiritual work, who always have doubts or who do negative things in this world, there is another circuit breaker, some backstop that will make sure that even those people transform at some point, but they will transform through pain and suffering. They roundabout way. So a lot of things will happen to eventually break them down to become a spiritual being, either in this lifetime or the next. Some people are very stubborn and they still choose not to transform and they still choose to blame everybody else or blame their circumstances. These are the people that it's painful, but unfortunately they will always attract chaos and drama. because more is required to break them down. Because if we can't get rid of that cancer, the doctors are going to try, the spiritual doctors are going to inject more chemo, more radiation, break it down, break it down until the cancer disappears. So he behooves all of us to surrender the negativity as soon as possible, or it will be forcibly taken away from us. Yes.

So this is the spiritual quadrant to start with.

This is the spiritual quadrant. And the last thing I'll say is there's two ways for a person to stop smoking. One, if they want to stop smoking, one is we know, and I'm sure everybody can agree, smoking is not good for your health. Okay, I'm not saying it's bad if a person smokes, but I'm sure even a smoker knows this is probably not the best. No one's thinking smoking is making you live longer. So you can either choose proactively to break it, and it's very hard and it's a very difficult addiction, But there's ways you can proactively push yourself to do it. Or there's a second way, which is lung cancer could come up. And then you go to the doctor and the doctor says, you have lung cancer and you need to stop smoking. So what happened was you have two different scenarios lead to the same outcome. One was you're forcing the universe to push you to change. The other one was proactively changing. We are often shown and told mercifully through the people around us and through just inspiration the things that we need to change. And if you are sensitive to that, you will take heed and you will learn, you will grow. Oftentimes the people closest to us, especially immediate family, the Creator is telling them to tell you or to awaken you to what you need to change. If we ignore them or we say it's their problem or we say, I don't like the way you're telling me, I don't like your tone, you got trauma, this is your issue, even if all that's true, you're still missing the fact that the creator is trying to tell you in a very merciful way. Even if the messenger is not a good person, it's still a messenger. If your ex tells you something really bad about you that you don't agree with, but it feels painful, It means there's truth there. So take maybe 5% of you is like that. If your ex says you're a horrible person or a narcissist, you're like, I'm not a narcissist, but it bothers you. As long as it bothers you, it means there's a piece of you that's in it. So I would say, okay, so maybe there's 5% of me that is, and let me explore that. Only so that I can release it, not have to have another relationship, show.

It to me, or have another chaotic.

Situation come from it. Yeah.

Okay.

Okay.

So this is a spiritual quadrant, four keys.

The second one we already talked about, which is certainty. Certainty is a whole bucket in and of itself, because none of the other quadrants become activated without certainty.

Really?

Certainty is everything. It is the consciousness that removes all the dark forces. all the negativity. It is the consciousness that creates happiness. It is the consciousness that creates joy. It is the consciousness that vibrates for infinite universes. Every moment of certainty creates positive forces in this world that go out into this world and fight for you.

And so when someone is in doubt or is not certain about something, then they're blocking their abundance. They're blocking their ability to be creative or meet the right people at the right time or take action or move into awareness, whatever they need to do in order to create the money opportunities for themselves.

They're blocking, yes, they're blocking the ability to create the vessel that can hold all of those things. Now, someone's saying right now, well, I know a lot of people who are wealthy who don't have certainty. They have doubts and anxiety all day long. So what's going on there? These people have a different process. Oftentimes the creator will give somebody wealth, and that's the beginning of their spiritual process. It's not that this wealth was something they earned through their spiritual work that they can enjoy. In fact, it's something that was their starting point of their spiritual path. And the fact is, until they do that spiritual work with the wealth, they're not even enjoying it.

Yeah, but broke people say, Hey, if someone give me a million dollars right now, I'll enjoy it. I'm broke. That's not enjoyable. I'm suffering. I'm in debt. If someone gave, I've won the lottery, I'd enjoy it.

Yes. So that is true. You would shift from one form of temporary pain, and then you will be shifting into another form of temporary pain, and that's what will come. Because you won't be ready for it.

You won't be ready.

You won't have the vessel for it. But here's what's interesting. Whoever's listening, you have the free will to do that. You could actually tell the universe, Hey.

Look, I rather be, have money- Rich and miserable.

-Yeah, and then poor and miserable. -and poor and miserable. And that may shift in that direction-.

And you'll stay miserable.

And the miserable, right? You'll still be lacking the fulfillment. And in fact, they're actually- It might be more painful. Yeah, because what happens is now that.

You have more energy around you and more money- Everyone's trying to take and.

People are trying to negative forces and- Because you have so much more energy around you, i.e. more money, you must have a bigger vessel to hold that. So you actually 100 extra challenges as well. So maybe you're miserable and broke now, but you know, your kids are good, your marriage is good, but you're just kind of like miserable because kind of can make ends meet. In this other scenario, if you are the same exact person, but you have more money, all of a sudden you'll see not just problems in the business, but problems with the kids and problems in the relationship.

And money amplifies things. So if you have a lot of problems, it will amplify a lot of the problems. It might solve some temporarily, but if you haven't changed the doubt or the uncertainty within you, that's going to amplify into greater uncertainty and doubt with money and making you kind of step into scarcity, holding it back, frustration, anger, all these different things as well.

This is true, and we have to understand why. Because this is such a beautiful true statement, and I think it's very powerful when people hear the why behind it, because now you understand how we're making this, not just how it is. The reason why money amplifies problems is because money is this infusion of energy that then comes towards you, and this energy wants to be revealed in its full potential, but it sees that your vessel can't hold it. So this energy starts to press upon you, and Kabbalah is called the surrounding light. It's a light that surrounds you and says, Hey, I want to be revealed. And in order for me to be revealed, I'm gonna put pressure on you to change who you are and expand. And so that is when people feel stress. Stress is when you have energy that's trying to be revealed, but you're not changing fast enough to let it in. You're not overcoming old belief systems, limited belief systems. This thing that your spouse told you that you're being very selfish, or you're not being focused or you're being very angry, like you're just not dealing with it. So then, but what are you doing? You're making more money. So the money's coming in saying, I'm energy and your wife, I sent your wife to you two weeks ago to tell you about something you need to change because I'm coming and you haven't made space for me. So now I'm gonna become chaos. When energy comes to a vessel that can't hold it, we have chaos. If a waiter came right now and poured a gallon of water, which is water, It was a great thing. Into my cup, we have chaos. I need a bigger cup. I need a bigger vessel to hold all of that. And so it's the same reason why we don't just, I remember when we had to do our trusts and like, what are we gonna give our children? When they grow up or when we pass on, is there a big danger to passing wealth onto children who haven't worked for it? So we created a beautiful structure where it basically said, For every dollar they make, maybe they get 50 cents of what we make. But until then, it is not given to them.

Interesting.

So energetically, because I understand vessels, like if I give my, if one of my kids is 25 and God forbid I'm no longer here, if I give him an infusion of cash, I destroy him. It's a lightning bolt of energy and we all know this is what happens. There's no child, no kid, no 19-year-old, 20-year-old, 25-year-old, 30-year-old, Well, you can hand them 1 million, 5 million, 10 million, 100 million, who says, you know what? All right, this is good. I'm not going to let this affect me any way whatsoever. I'm going to be more responsible.

No one's thinking this way. Now I'm going to go learn financial literacy. Now I'm going to understand how to use it.

Now I understand the tax codes and all these things. You don't know all that stuff. No, you're going to buy a house. You're going to buy a car. It's gone. You're going to go spend it on your friends. It's gone.

You're going to spend it on women. And the chaos begins. So you actually bring all this energy in, but Nowhere did you change your own vessel. I guarantee you 99% of people watching and listening are saying, Ah, but I still love to have $5 million just handed to me.

Okay. So you say that out loud. That prayer will draw the energy of 5 million to you. And by the way, that's a great thing. Every year I say to the Creator, I would love to have, Here's my new goal, which is much more than I have today. So then that energy comes towards me. The pressure builds, it detoxes my soul's negativity, and I begin the process of seeing that. When you ask for $5 million, you're going to get 5 million problems, but that's a good thing because these problems are showing you what you need to change. So I'm with you. Nobody wants to be broke, nobody wants to be alone, nobody wants to be sad. We should have all these things, but I've learned and I really just want to share that There is a process that goes from where you're at to where you want to be and that process is a very spiritual process. You're just going to see your limitations.

And you need the certainty to figure it out. But if you don't have certainty, there's a process to creating certainty as well.

We all have certainty when things are okay.

Good.

Yeah.

Feels good now.

You see the money in the bank. I have certainty.

It feels good.

Yeah.

It's when it goes wrong. You don't, you have doubt.

You realize you never had certainty. It's the money, you borrowed the certainty that the money gave you.

Here's also the thing people watching and listening, I already know they're going to be saying and thinking is, I don't know which direction to go. I have all these options laid out. I have my mom or my spouse or someone, my friend telling me what I should do around my career, this 17 passion projects that I want to work on all at the same time and I don't know which decision to make. How does someone get certainty when there's so many options and people telling them what to do?

Such a great question. In my prosperity seminars, I talk about five different concepts of how to manifest prosperity. The first one is the limited beliefs about building your vessel. Another one is simply the power of oneness and focus. One of the things that the negative side does, as you aim to be successful, are successful, is to dilute your focus. and work on many things. I have learned that there are only two things I ever want to focus on. One is my brand, as long as I have it, and one is my spiritual platform. These are two things. Now, how many opportunities come to me? Someone comes to me and says, oh, you should invest in Bitcoin or crypto. I say, look, maybe, but I'm not, here's a huge opportunity to invest in something. Here's a board of a company you should be on. Here's a this and here's a that. And by the way, they're all very lucrative potentially. And some of them are guaranteed wins. In fact, it's the guaranteed wins that are the most dangerous because you're like, well, I'll do that too. And what the negative side does is divide and conquer. Once your attention is divided, everything becomes less of the vibration and state of manifestation. So I have learned to find one, maybe two things, and there are some people who can handle more. But for the majority of us, we need one or two things to go very deep, deep, deep, deep, deep, and pull our energy into it. Because someone asked me, if you had to build a vitamin company today, how would you do it? One is I have seen why other people can't do it is because 100% of their attention and focus is not on that. I said, you want to compete with me? Right.

Good luck.

My attention is 100% on this.

Obsessed.

And I'm obsessed. Now, if you're doing six other things, it's going to be very hard to energetically shift and move and open those gates. So the person who is the most focused wins. So if you're trying to break into a new industry, The focus is the only way that's really going to work, right? Starting point. Now, the question I think your audience is asking or that you said you think they're asking is, well, how do I know of these 10 different options I have, which one to do? And this is true. This is a good question.

I have all these passions. I have all these things that excite me.

Yeah. And I want to do all of them. And I don't know which one's the right one. How would I deal with that? One, I would acknowledge this is not bad. The creator is showing me 10 options. That alone is good because when you say something is bad, you will never understand it. When you say this relationship was bad or the situation is bad or the fact that I don't know what to do is bad, you already aren't on the vibration to understand what needs to be done. So you have to first say it's good, just even if you don't mean it, say it over and over again. This is good that I don't know what to do. Now that you said it's good, you've established a connection to the miraculous realm of the light of the Creator. Now this light will illuminate what you should do. If I didn't know what I should do, I do nothing. And I continue with prayer. I will walk all around Los Angeles like I always do, and I will say, what? Show me. Show me what is the right thing for my soul. And here is my spiritual peace offering. I'm also going to work on my negativity, that spiritual quadrant, because that will then expand my vessel to get the answer. If you don't know what to do, it means you haven't merited the answer. You haven't earned the answer from the universe. Well, how do I earn an answer? You have to build your vessel for the answer. So, certainty, spiritual work, and these other two quadrants, which I'm going to say, which is the third one is prayer, which I just mentioned. Prayer is the third quadrant. Is all building the vessel even to get an answer. These four quadrants can be used to manifest anything, even an answer. You need an answer about something, you're not getting it. Well, the answer is there because The answer comes before the question. What came first, God or the vessel? God. So what came first, the light or the vessel?

The answer.

The answer comes before the question.

The knowledge, the wisdom. Correct.

The only reason there is a question is because there was an answer before that. If you have a question, it means the answer is already there. Well, why isn't it revealed to me? Because your vessel hasn't been built for it. So let's build it.

-Is that prayer?

-The third quadrant is prayer. -So if you pray... -What is the.

Difference between spirituality and prayer?

-Spirituality is the concept that I have a soul and my soul has a purpose. And I am now going to learn about that purpose in order for my soul to receive everything that is meant to receive. this is the definition of spiritual. This is the way everybody says they're spiritual. I ask, somehow you're religious. They go, no, no, it's spiritual. It's like a great. People love saying it because they resonate with this idea. Yeah, I'm a soul and I'm meant to receive everything. So I'm spiritual. Now, certainty is a concept, is a vibration, is a quality of the Creator that I must. inhabit in order to be on a spiritual path. So a spiritual person is also a certain person.

Prayer.

Oh, prayer. Was it, was it prayer that you said?

Yeah, yeah.

So prayer, okay, I'm sorry, I thought it was a certain thing. So prayer, same thing. Prayer is another technology by which I can best transform my vessel because every time I pray, My vessel vibrationally changes and everything becomes clear and expands, and the energy can come in. -What does prayer look like for you? -It depends on what I am asking for. So, let us say I do not feel enough certainty. I will just keep asking for certainty in my own language over and over again.

-How do you say it?

-Creator.

-Give me certainty.

-That is it. -Give me certainty. -That is it. -Give me certainty. -I am certain. I want certainty. I have certainty in this. I have certainty in my happiness. I have certainty that this thing is good. And I will actually go through every problem in my life and say, I have certainty. certainty that this is good, and I have certainty that this is good, and I have certainty that this is good. So I'll start to inject the light force of certainty in everything that is currently not working. Because if I don't proactively do that subconsciously, your, your, your mind thinks it's a bad thing. So you're blocking the energy. If you do nothing, if you don't pray, the default is that you think something is bad that doesn't go your way. That's just how we're built. So you actually have to reprogram your body and mind every morning and point to everything that's not working and say, I have certainty.

I have certainty this is working or.

This will work or... All of them work. I have certainty that this is good. I have certainty that it will work. It's actually more powerful to say, I have certainty that it is already done. I've already reached the level of manifestation. It is actually a higher vibration.

Okay.

-But I let people kind of comfortably find what works for them. -Gotcha. -Sometimes just saying one thing may not be appealing to someone and they need.

Some baby steps along the way.

-How often are you praying on a daily basis? -So, I have learned that 99% of my day needs to be prayer. And even now -99% of your day is prayer? -It is prayer.

So, even now we are praying.

-This is prayer for you. -Well, what maybe the audience does not see, is that every pause I'm taking or when you're talking in my mind, I'm like, Creator, please make sure that the next word that comes out is like it is the right word. So I'll be praying for that. Or when I'm drinking the water, I'm saying I want that the light in this water is what I connect to, not the physicality of the water, because everything also has light in us. And if your intention when you drink or eat is, I'm just hungry. So you're feeding the pain. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're feeding the body consciousness, which is.

The doubts, the fears, and negativity. So kabbalists have this whole thing about how to eat food, how to chew food. Say if you chew food until it's liquid. Actually, science says the same thing. Chew food until it's liquid. What you're doing, the mastication of food, is separating the physical from the spiritual. Huh. And so by doing that, you're elevating the negative coarser part of the food out, and you're elevating the light that's in it. So what will happen is your consciousness will be elevated. But if you just kind of eat and just shove it in your mouth and you're like, I'm hungry, your intention here is to feed and empower your body consciousness, which is the selfishness, the insecurity, the neediness, the lust of the body, the need for power of the body. So even food is a technology if used in the right way to elevate your consciousness of certainty.

Okay. So that's prayer. And then the fourth part is physical.

Yes. Now, if I did all of this and I just sat on my couch, there's a problem. Because while we spiritually need to earn everything, the body also needs to move. The body needs to earn itself. This is why the gym is important. This is why exercise is important. Exercise is actually very spiritual. Kabbalists say that when you sweat, the sweat is actually the breaking of negativity as well. And that's why almost every time you sweat, you feel good. Because you're cleansing negativity.

I sweat all the time, so I.

Must have a negativity that needs to come out of me. You sweat very well, right? So it's a great feeling when you sweat when you're pushing, when you're proactively pushing yourself. So the body's cleansing itself when it sweats. That's what sweat is. It's the cleansing of the body consciousness. And sleep, by the way, what sleep does spiritually is the soul is so pure that when it's inundated with all the negativity of this world and the limited consciousness and the fears and not just of you, but everybody around you, the soul needs to recharge and cleanse itself. science even says our body rejuvenates itself, so why do we need to sleep? Sleep is actually a spiritual process that the body benefits from. The soul leaves at night and the body experiences actually a little bit of death. And that's why it starts to cleanse itself. And, you know, a person wakes up in the morning, they have bad breath, they have this, they have that, they need to like kind of clean themselves, they need to use the restroom. It's because when the soul leaves, it's kind of pushing, the soul leaves, it recharges, comes back, and it pushes out of the body like the negativity. So there's a cleansing happening every time we sleep. It's why when we sleep well, we have higher consciousness, we have more certainty, we have more happiness, we have more joy. So sleep is also a spiritual process that enhances these four quadrants. So the physical work is so important in terms of the way you eat, the way you sleep, the way you exercise, all for the sake of uniting yourself with the Creator, not to impress someone or because you're insecure, shift it to I want to be like the creator. And actually working in your company, in your business, you actually have to put the time in. Elon Musk didn't just say, I have certainty, and did everything. He actually was sitting in his factories working really hard as well. So when hard work, when a person is just physically working hard, the reason why it's not working is because they're missing the other three quadrants. And that is why it feels like nothing's moving.

So you could work really hard, spend 10 tons of time, but not feel like you're getting a lot of results or feel like the results are coming very slowly. Or for others, it becomes more effortless. But for you, it's harder. And maybe you've been doing it for years. It's because you're not focusing on all four quadrants to improve the quality of them. Or maybe you're not doing one of them or two of them or whatever it might be. And so you should be assessing. okay. Within these four areas of my life, spiritual, certainty, prayer and physical. Do I have any blocks? In spiritual. Yeah. Spiritual is number one, right? Number two, certainty. Number three, prayer. Number four, physical. Do I have any blocks? Am I paying attention to this area of my life or am I neglecting it? If I'm neglecting it, how can I improve it? All these different things and making it a daily practice to try to. improve all four of them.

Correct. And the truth is each quadrant I could probably give 10 to 20 classes and seminars on how to go deeper and what it really means. And all of this is in my masterclass as well. But this is kind of like the headline of it. But there's depths of it. And if you go deeper into each one, you will be a manifestation powerhouse. Everywhere you go, you can open any gate and then you collapse time as well and you do it much quicker.

What's the area? What's, which key do you struggle with the most in your life right now? Spiritual certainty, physical or prayer or physical? Which one is blocking you from the next level?

I would say in the spiritual category, at this stage, like things have moved so quickly for me lately. [FOILed] so much has come in that it's kind of the negative side is using it as a way to distract me.

What do you mean?

I think that I got to a place I was so methodical about my spiritual work and step by step and how do I break through and then things open. So as long as things go methodically for me, I'm good. And they go slowly and patiently, like I'm very structured.

But now it's abundantly flowing to you.

So the creator and the creator and the negative side got together and said, okay, how do we really test them? Let's give him so much momentum that it actually distracts him.

Really?

Yeah. So what I've kind of learned now is to Not fall into that, or I'm trying to anyways. I'm trying not to fall into that and constantly rebalance because there's so many shiny objects. There's so many ways and opportunities and like, what do we do and how do we do it? That very easily I could lose myself. And I have, by the way, like there's, I'm not sitting here saying, guys, I got this. Like, I am in the same seat as everybody else.

Not a perfect level.

Just a different level. Yeah, yeah, just different levels. I hate to even say that because it's kind of like, We're all so different in so many different ways, but I can just tell you the same mistakes you make, I make, the same fears you have, I have, the same problems you have I deal with on a daily basis, the same pain. It's all the same. And in my case, I am just learning that I can very easily get lost in the momentum of things. And I need to always remember what's important. What is important for me? that I am reminding myself is my family, is the spiritual work that got me here. Because now he is like, look, I got all this manifestation, whatever this happened, that happened. And you forget, because one of my teachers, Karen Berg, said, Whatever miracle you are having today is because of seeds you planted six months ago.

-Or six years ago.

-Six years ago. So, if you want to have miracles again in six months or in six years or in six days, plant the same seeds now that you did before. The greatest seed you can plant for miracles is when you are so broken, so at the bottom, so confused, so like hopeless, but you inject happiness, certainty, and you do those four quadrants when you're at the bottom, it's the greatest light that can be revealed. So I know that a lot of the great things that are happening in my life today are from, let me think about it. It was some that was probably from one of the most painful times of my life. I mean, a lot of painful things happened last year, the transition of obviously, you know, family and relationship. A very painful thing happened four years ago, which was like one of the worst things I, like every four years, something crazy happens. And then I know that either a year, two or three years later, there's a huge blessing that comes as well. So I'll tell people, if you're going through that now, that Darkness, that Broken that like I don't even know what to do. And it's, I'm so scared. If you apply these four quadrants right now, it's the greatest soil to plant this seed.

I love that you started this when we talked about going from kind of broke to millionaire today. If you had to restart this process or teach this process to someone who's struggling financially that's trying to earn a lot of money. That you don't give some, you know, go register a business domain or start an LLC or, you know, buy this book and learn these kind of financial strategies, you're not teaching that first. You're saying, understand your spiritual vessel and take an assessment of where you are in the four areas of life, spiritual, your level of certainty and belief in yourself, your prayer, your level of prayer and how that looks for you and your physical world. Because I think a lot of people get ahead of themselves on how do I make money, whatever we create, I need to come up with some good idea and then execute this idea. They get ahead of themselves on the product, the process, who they need to hire before assessing themselves.

Correct.

Creating self-awareness on their life.

Correct.

And these are the, like you said, this is the soil for you to expand and grow. And without having fertile soil, without having the assessment of these kind of four areas, you will ultimately fail or be stressed or be overwhelmed or burdened with something else and be brought back to these four areas.

That's correct.

So you might be getting ahead of yourself and be successful on the outside, but suffer on the inside without applying these four keys and constantly being reminded of them.

Correct.

So that is the first. I don't know if that's the first four steps for you then, but would there be other steps after that? Once you were like, okay, I'm gonna get into a spiritual practice and ask God to show me what my soul needs right now to expand my vessel. I'm going to have certainty that this is everything that everything that's happening for me is happening for my good, for my benefit, for growth. I'm certain this is working out. I'm certain this is for me. Thank you so much. Appreciating what you're creating right now to into prayer. Give me the, the certainty. I have certainty. I am certainty. I am wealth. saying these things over and over again.

And you can ask for anything.

Yes. And then making sure that the body is taking care of itself, that you are taking care of your body, you're moving, you're sweating, you're sleeping, you're intentional about what you're eating and how you're consuming all these different things. Once you've got that foundation and you still gotta go make money now, what are you doing next?

Well, here's what's amazing. When you do these four things, you are connected on such a vibration where you start to have divine inspiration. So the divine ideas and thoughts become to a person who's doing these four things. We know that when a person is happy, they receive messages. When a person is sad, they don't receive messages. And why? Because it's a vibration of energy. Happiness is in line with the light of the creator. So you're receiving divine inspiration. You're receiving visions of the future. You're receiving the right words at the right time, you're actually finding yourself in the right place at the right time, and it's all working out. When you're on that vibration, when you're not in that vibration and you have sadness or there's laziness or there's this being stubborn and not listening, then it's like the thoughts are blocked, the ideas are blocked. You could be saying the right things, but people don't feel you. I've heard this so many times. They'll be like, I hear you saying all the right things, but it's like, the energy's off. The energy's off. Or they hear something totally different because everybody feels our energy. They're not listening to our words. It's a very powerful thing that I've also learned because when I started to like, wanna put content out there, one of the mistakes I knew I could have made was, how do I make really the content unique? And I was talking to somebody else recently and she's like, I haven't found my niche to put out new, unique content. I don't want to be like every other influencer. And I said, look, if you're trying to solve this in the physical realm, this is a niche. This is my niche. You'll get far, but the world is looking for something very different. And I actually think content for our next generation, what the audience will really appreciate, I call it content 2.0, it's less about the hacks of life and, you know, hey, like, Like we said before, if you're in a breakup, block them for 30 days and respect yourself. All of these things are really great, but we've heard it a lot. The 2.0 is the energy you transmit through the content, the certainty you transmit through the content, the spirituality through the work you've done on yourself. that you transmit through the content. This will be the new era of influencers because people are now, people see through the BS. People see through the, I'm telling you what I think is great to hear.

But they don't believe it or they don't have certainty around it or something.

Or they're turning off the camera and going back and screaming at their kids or cheating on their wife or whatever it is that's going on. So they're saying one thing by doing another, right? And by the way, we're all inauthentic in some way. Whatever I say to you, am I living it perfectly? Absolutely not. The question becomes, what is your desire? If your desire is to always reach that level, it is as if you have reached that level. But if you're really just living two different lives and you're like, I know this is what the world wants to hear and this is actually what I want to do, that polarity is going to be shut down and not rewarded, I believe, in the next five to 10 years.

Wow.

Yeah. So you do not have to be perfect, but you have to have a desire to want to grow these four quadrants. The desire itself is the immunity and the protection, and your audience will feel it. And I really want to emphasize that. Don't try to be perfect. I've tried this, and it has backfired tremendously. I've tried to look perfect. I've tried to say, oh, my God, if I'm on a spiritual platform, I can't make any mistakes. I used to not leave my house for fear that I would make a mistake and ruin my reputation. It was that bad. -Wow. -That was why I said in the last podcast, I did not even date a woman from the age of 20 to 29 until the day I got married. Because I was so afraid of making a mistake or- -Hurt somebody, having a bad reputation, somebody calling me an asshole, somebody calling me a creep, somebody calling me whatever. And then I realized I was actually avoiding. very much what my probably spiritual work was at the time, which was, you know, need for approval, let's say. So it is very.

Because you don't want to be criticized or you don't want someone to say you're not living up to the standard that you're preaching or something like that.

No, I think there's. I feel like I would be. If I had to get on a stage and say something and feel that when I got off of it, I did the exact opposite intentionally. I would die inside. Like, I would feel like I could not. And I think most people cannot do that. Like, you can't, like, get on and talk when you know you're doing something else. Yeah, it's an authentic. Intentionally.

It's an authentic. It's a disconnection. What is the biggest fear for you then? We've. We've heard the. The thing that you maybe. I mean, I guess you're. Again, you're doing all these four things at a high level, but you're saying the spiritual aspect is the thing that's. speaking to you that you need to continue to step into, even though that it's not like you've erased the spiritual aspect, but you're like, okay, I need to refocus on this at another level. But what is the biggest fear you face in your life right now? Because you have this billion dollar plus brand, you have a growing audience of communities that are inspired by you, you're the healthiest you've ever been, you know, your kids are starting to grow up. What is your biggest fear? You have spiritual wisdom that you've been teaching and serving for a long time. You know, what's. What's the big fear for you?

I think in some of my most recent blocks and meditations and prayer, and I ask, like, what is my soul meant to do? And, you know, I see. I see, like, a future. I see a vision of. something I know I would love to do and desire to do and believe I'm meant to do. Let's say, for example, it's an audience, because again, I only started this like half a year ago, eight months ago. If I want to reach, if I want to be of service to, let's say, 100 million people, that they learn this wisdom of the Creator, not my wisdom, like totally be clear about that. This is not my wisdom. I, this is not my content. This is all stuff I've learned from my teachers, I've learned it from their teachers, thousands of viewers, and I love that we can have access to it. And I would love to be part of that process of bringing it to the world. But how am I, how would I ask my question? How would I sabotage that? Because if I'm a vessel for that, the question's gonna be, what do I need to do to expand the vessel to fit that energy through to 100 million people, right? I don't know. If my audience is a couple million now, I would have to become a completely different person to service 100 million people or a billion people and not fall. There's a lot of times we can get to those numbers and then there's a crash that happens. So I'm always asking myself, like, what do I need to do to the best of my ability to expand my vessel to service those souls if I feel that's my purpose? One of the things that's come up, and I'll just be vulnerable about it, is that I think the most dangerous thing we all face, and I have it real big, is the need for validation. We all love being validated. We love when people message us and say, you,'re amazing.

You're awesome, babe.

Every time somebody says, that was the best podcast with you and Lewis, I'm like sending it to you right away. Did you see that? And the truth is it's great to receive thank yous and compliments and validation. But I asked myself, what's going to happen when you give a seminar for a thousand people? I came to your seminar. You have four or 5,000 people there. And I asked myself, if I was on the stage, I would be like, wow, look at me. And the fact that that would affect me and change me means I'm not ready for it.

Interesting. But you've been teaching workshops for 20 years.

I have.

To big audiences and massive celebrities, billionaires, like they all come to you and.

Say, teach me, coach me, help me. So I remember when I was 24 years old, I started at 20 teaching seminars. At 24, I went on tour and I went to four different cities a week for a year. Wow. So I don't know what it was. I did like 200 something seminars. And so I would go to Phoenix, there'd be like 300 people there. I would go to San Francisco, there was 700 people there. I went and I went, I went with like, A group of five people. I was staying at the great hotels. I was eating great food. And I'm like, this is like rock star. I felt so great.

People come up to you after the speech and you're amazing and you're changing.

My life and thank you. So new for me. I'm like, this is amazing. You feel like you're changing the world. You feel like you're doing something spiritual. I think after the 30th one, and it's the same seminar over and over again, I was exhausted. I'm like, I don't want to do this anymore. I don't want to see people anymore. I remember vomiting in the airports, I was sleeping enough, flight after flight after flight. And I'm like, I did not want it at all. And I did not want to go to another city. And at some point, people coming up to you and saying, that was great, becomes the opposite. It is more like you feel like they are taking energy from you. -Now that they are telling you the.

Whole life story for three hours and you are trying to be president, serve, and you are like, okay, now I am exhausted.

-Correct. Before it was like, wow, look, they want my energy. Now it's like, oh my God, they want my energy. -Right, right, right. -So I remember calling my mentor at the time and I said to him, so why? Like one of, like probably one of the wisest spiritual teachers, isn't it Michael Berg? And I said to him, I said, I do not want to do this anymore. Like I'm exhausted. I want to come back to LA. I want to sleep in my bed. I want to like just teach there. And he said to me something I never forget. One of the most profound things he ever said. He said, you need to know. Everything you've done up to this point actually was no revelation of light because you were the taker. You went to San Francisco and you took validation from them. I know it looked like you gave them, but you took from them.

But you did it 'cause you were excited about the validation. You were a giver.

Correct. And so, yes, they look like they were inspired, but to the extent of the taking is they're not gonna be left with the blessing and the miracle. They're not going to remember the wisdom. The reason why we still, there's the major religions of Christianity and Buddhism and Islam and Judaism, like the reason why these words of these great sages still continue till today is because they perfected their need for approval. They perfected their vessel to truly be pure channels, and so their words became immortal. And the reason why most people just forget about us after a certain point is because our words are not immortal because we are really like we're mixing some purity with a lot of selfishness as well. And I thought to myself, to the extent of my need for validation is to the extent that not only will my words not carry, not only will the message not carry, but I will not be able to reach that group of people. So he said to me, he said, From this moment on, everything you do will actually be giving because you don't want to do it you're not even enjoying it. You look at someone approaching you, you're like, oh, God. And then when you look them in the eye and you talk to them, this is. You are now God. Because you don't have any desire to receive for yourself.

But isn't the whole point of life to receive?

Yes.

So how we're creating something to serve.

Very deep question.

We're creating to because we want to serve. And the whole point is to receive. All of our life's desires and dreams and manifestations and abundance, right? So, do we just create and not receive anything?

You are now asking the most powerful question. And from this moment on, if I answer it, we are actually now studying Kabbalah. Because everything before this was like pre-Kabbalah. It was like scrimmage. Because I rarely, it was JV. Now we are in the varsity. If you want to hear the answer to this, because and for the audience that's going to hear it, it's going to sound contradictory and it's going to bend your mind a little bit, but you're going to feel the energy of it because cabal is so powerful in advanced. I almost never on a podcast format will go into it. I'll do it in my master classes because we have time.

But here's the thing.

There are two vessels inside of you to receive. One is a called a linear vessel and one is called a circular vessel. What do we know about a linear vessel? It has a beginning and an end. Meaning, if you feed that vessel, you're always going to feel good and then it's going to be gone. And this is how most people feel. I got validation. I feel amazing. And then tomorrow I need it again. Okay? Most people are operating in the linear vessel. When you get to that point where you no longer enjoy the giving and you still push through with the intention of I'm doing this to become one with the Creator because I just want affinity or form. You now shift to a circular vessel. The circular vessel is endless and no chaos can come in this. And now you can receive endlessly because what happens when you don't care anymore, but you still give? I can give you a million dollars. I can give you a hundred million dollars. I can have a million people say you're amazing and won't affect you because you're serving now you are looking for validation from the Creator. You can only get to that second phase when you no longer are in the mood to give, and then you shift through that darkness.

-So, what does that look like specifically for you right now, or for someone watching right now? Maybe they do something, maybe it is with a good intention, but unconsciously, or they still want that validation, or they still want someone to acknowledge them, or they still want someone to appreciate how hard they're showing up for them or whatever. Maybe it's an employee and they want that from their boss consistently. Maybe it's a, your, your romantic partnership. You do something for your partner, and they're not thanking me or appreciating me enough. You know, I'm guilty of all those things.

Yeah.

So what would the process look like for, for anyone or for yourself to going from a linear vessel of, I'm gonna do something and I hope to get something. Yeah. And then I gotta do it all over again. And then I gotta keep showing up every day and, like, and then somebody.

Doesn'T give you a validation, you're depressed for three, four days.

Well, you're resentful, you're frustrated, you're on, you know, whatever, you're negative, your negative thought process. So how do we get out of this linear loop that holds us back from needing something consistently when we still need things to live and survive also in the physical realm to getting into a circular place where you don't care about receiving something But you still give and then you receive abundantly.

99% of this spiritual work is just wanting it. So what I hope from this podcast, everyone hearing is, Hey, we're all in the same boat. We all want validation. We want everyone to love us. We want to be the man, we want to be the woman. We want to be it. Let's admit that that's our problem.

Yes.

And then let's pray, ask, and desire and say, I want to get to this circular place where I don't need it at all and I can truly serve and be a giver and I receive only the validation of the Creator. I invoice the Creator. I don't invoice the people. I have learned that when I do a favor for someone, immediately I write an invoice to the Creator. I do not, otherwise I will look for something from the person. I did something for them, why aren't they doing something for me? There's nothing more powerful than invoicing the creator.

So what does that look like? You do something for someone else. You give a speech, you do this podcast and a thousand people messaged you, you,'re amazing, David, that was incredible, you blew my mind, thank you for your wisdom and you're changing my life. How do you invoice the creator instead of people validating it?

When it's coming to you, You have to pause constantly and say, okay, one second. What is this doing to me? Is this inflating my ego? Is this way, is this making me feel a certain way? How do I recalibrate myself back to becoming the vessel that creates miracles? How do I get back to being the cause? Because as soon as somebody validates you, you become the effect. Now they are controlling my mood. I'm no longer in the vibration of God and the Creator. And I am now actually not planting any more seeds. Now, that doesn't mean we shouldn't compliment people. We should. And you don't want to bypass and.

Say, oh, it's all the Creator.

You don't want to bypass the Creator. You don't say, oh, it's not me, it's the Creator. -You never say that to them. You always say thank you to them. You never say, oh, no, no, it's not me.

Because you're also now rejecting their ability.

To shine their light. You're blocking their gift. Exactly. It's the constant calibration of, this is why slow and steady wins the race. And if you get too successful too fast, so true. Yeah. You get too famous too fast. It's almost impossible to recalibrate your consciousness. You almost have to fall and then the recalibration happens, which by the way, it happened to me many times of fallen and then I had to recalibrate. I'm learning now, if I want to go at this momentum, I need to pray more. I need to ground myself more. I need to spend time with people who have achieved this. I went to dinner. I was in Miami. I went to dinner with someone. I had two options. To go somewhere really fun or go to this dinner. And I went to the dinner. It was three, three people. And I'm trying to see if I am allowed to, you know what? I'm gonna say his name because I think that he would appreciate it. And it would be context of the story. Do you remember Adam Newman from?

Yeah, we work.

We work, right? Yeah. So he's got a great story, right? So Adam... A lot of people don't like his story, but yeah, I'm not here to like him on a panel.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But there's a very powerful... where he.

Freaking exploded and this massive unicorn got huge investment, but then it all crumbled. WeCrash was the docu- I was in it.

You were in it?

Well, they took a part of my... oh wait, actually, they took an interview clip of mine and recreated it. Oh, really? 'Cause I had the only interview with Rebecca. Oh, yes. And so they kind of recreated that clip of me and they even say like School of Greatness, but it was some actor. So, that's some video.

Anyways, I love that. So, we had dinner with him. So, I met Adam for the first time before he had WeWork. And I was teaching privately in someone's home. And he- Before he had WeWork, he had his other company. Before he was Adam. Like, there was no, and he was learning Kabbalah in this home.

Interesting.

Yeah, it's a part of the thing. So, I've known him all these years and he has been an incredible, he and Rebecca have been incredible friends, mentors, guides in so many different ways. Like when you get to know who they are and the love they have and what they want to give, like I've always kept them by myself. So, and married with- I went to.

The school that she created and I thought it was fascinating concept and I was there and I was watching, I was like, kids are playing music in the morning and they're running around and it's creative learning and yeah, I just.

Heard about the school in Miami. She was just telling me about it. I'm like, oh my God, I want this in LA. I would love my kids to be in that. So I went to this dinner and he said to me, he said, look, I see what's happening to you. I see what's happening to your platform. I see what's happening to your business. And it was a four hour conversation and they I, what I got from that was basically the energy of we hope we never want you to crash. Here are the things you should do.

So that doesn't happen.

So that doesn't happen.

Well, what do you say?

Okay, so the biggest thing was the validation. Ah, you say you have to be from a validation point of view, you have to make sure that you do not allow this to take you from the core of who you are and from everything you did to get to this point. Reconnect with your spirituality deeper and deeper than ever. Reconnect with your mentors and teachers and the ones who were there for you more deeper and deeper than ever before. He also has something very interesting. They have a great relationship together and he said, you know, being in a relationship, being in a healthy relationship, a romantic relationship, whatever, like this is also a very important thing. It makes you choose wisely. The greatest thing that ever happened to me in my life is my relationship partnership with Mary Ruth, a female figure in my life who undoubtedly without her, I would not be anywhere that I am today. I owe everything to her. And so whoever that partner is in your life, the way Mary Ruth took me from who I was to where I am today and whatever that next chapter of my life is, this they said was so valuable because that is who you're spending the most time with. That is who is affecting your consciousness. That's who is affecting your belief systems. And so this is a very important thing as well. And the third thing that you said, remember the intention of why you are teaching this wisdom. And it is only about the light of the Creator and helping people connect with the light of the Creator, know the Creator. and not know you. One of the things I struggled with is as a marketer by trade, what's the smartest way to bring this wisdom out?

Personal brand.

Personal brand. Yeah.

So that's interesting. So how do you build personal brand? Because people need to hear from a messenger. They need to hear from people that they can connect with or relate to from their story, their backstory. And so how do you or how does anyone build a personal brand without losing themselves in the desire to be validated constantly from their community or audience? Because the personal brand is going to help you probably get to the next level of reaching people. They need to know about you if you want to impact 100 million people. But how do you now let that take over your soul of like, oh, I'm the man or I have all this attention or people love me.

Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know yet because I'm just gonna be honest. I don't fully know because I'm going through it. And I also believe I'm failing, by the way. I remind myself every day, most likely you're failing this because that will actually position me better to not be delusional. So most likely I'm failing.

I got it all figured out. I'm doing perfect.

Yeah. It is so scary to.