In this candid conversation, the host and two speakers reflect on a three‑year sobriety milestone, exploring how abstaining from alcohol reshaped their sense of self and daily experience. The speaker recounts early struggles with being present, noting that acting forced them into the moment and later helped them understand why they were drawn to performance. Over the past three years, they describe “miracles and magic” as ordinary yet profound moments—sipping coffee with their dogs, feeling comfortable in their own skin, and experiencing deep stillness. They discuss shedding the “people‑pleaser” masks they wore for a decade, discovering a stronger connection to an inner “guide team,” and developing heightened empathy for others’ unseen battles. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of kindness, patience, and self‑acceptance, suggesting that the growth in empathy would not have occurred without the hardships of recovery. The conversation ends with a reminder that understanding others’ perspectives is essential, and that sobriety has opened a space for authentic presence and compassion.
Another quote you have talking about this whole journey. This was a three-year anniversary post after getting sober. You wrote this on Instagram. It said, I began my journey in remembering who I am. Since then, I've experienced moments that can only be described as pure miracles and magic. What are a few of those moments in the last three years since being.
Sober that have been miracles and magic for you? I think for me, I struggled a lot with being present in every sense of the word. I think that's why I liked being an actor, is because I'm forced to be very present and I connected those dots. I was like, oh my God, that's why I gravitated towards it as a child, because it took me out of my head and I could just focus on whatever I was doing. There's so much stillness in my life the last couple of years, and I'll just have these moments where it's not anything profound. sitting, drinking my coffee with my dogs, and I'll just be so moved to tears by how great I feel. It's almost like I can't believe I'm so comfortable in my own skin. I felt really afraid of myself for a long time. I was afraid of my choices. I felt like, you know, I felt like a wild card. And so to just be really, no.
It was-- Really, you just didn't know. Any day it could be just something wild or crazy.
Yeah, I mean, Sober me, I was, but I was a people pleaser. And so I just never, I felt like I was trying on all of these different masks and none of them really felt like me. And so now I just like, what I meant by that quote about miracles and magic is I feel so connected to myself and I feel connected to my, I call them my team, my guide team up there. And I, Just am in awe of what I've been able to do. I'm in awe of other people. I feel like I have so much empathy for people and what everyone's fighting silent battles we know nothing about. I mean, I'm like the perfect example of that for 10 years. And there were so many people who I don't have resentment towards them, but like they just didn't know what I was going through. and that's why it's so vital to be kind, to always be kind. And I don't think I would have garnered that amount of understanding or empathy had I not gone through what I've gone through. And I don't think, and I don't mean, like, enable people.
Right.
But, like, we don't understand anyone else's point of view or what people are going through, so just be patient.