These DAILY HABITS Will Prime Your Brain To Get ANYTHING YOU WANT | Tony Robbins

Anybody doesn't have problems is either totally asleep at the wheel or they don't have much of any kind of a life. No. No responsibility, nothing in their building. So my life is really about learning from the best. But I don't start with the how. I start with I think you gotta have a dream. The school of greatness. Really? Yeah. Please welcome Lewis Howell.

I know your morning routine has evolved and shifted and changed over the years. Probably 30 years ago might have been a little bit different than it is today because you've been researching so much about mindset, about neuroscience, about the body, about nutrition, about all the different medical things that are out there. Is there something new that you do with your morning routine now that is different then? And what has really helped accelerate your productivity, your joy, your peace at this level with your morning routine?

Well, I have certain fundamentals that haven't changed. You know, I think I've shared with you before, the first thing I do every single morning is I go in freezing cold water. And I've shared this with many people. It's not because I'm a masochist, but because it moves the lymph of your body, as you well know. And when you jump in, it never feels good to go in, but getting out, you feel incredible. But I do it for a different reason. I do it to train my brain to say, when I say now, it means now. When I say go, we go. I don't stand there because it's cold and go, maybe in a minute when I'm ready. And I think I've shared with you before. I don't think I've ever had a morning. I look forward to jumping in that water ever. But I always do it because I've trained my brain. This is how we work. And if you train your brain to do that every single day, then it'll do it on the more difficult and important things in life. But I also, then I do my priming I think you're familiar with, which is I do 10 minutes. And I pick 10 minutes because if I said do 20 minutes or 30, I don't have time. But if you don't have 10 minutes for your life, you don't have much of a life. So I do this 10 minute process and if people want to know it rather than walk through it right now, they can go to Tony Robbins priming. There's a video, it's free. But the essence of it is I change my body radically. And I do three things to make sure that my brain is primed and What I mean by primed is most people think their thoughts are their thoughts, Louis. And you and I know better because you and I have read the studies, right? Priming is a psychological principle where you think thoughts and you think they're yours, but very often they're created by the environment. So one example was Harvard has done multiple studies on this, and one of the studies they did was taking people walking up to people. They hired two actors. They walked up to 100 people. They had to do the exact same thing, men and women. And what they did is they walk up with a cup of coffee in their hand, and they'd look at you and go, here, would you hold this for a second? Look down and reach in their pocket to pull out their phone. And most people then take the coffee. There's nobody there. You're not looking to give it back, right? And then they do what they're doing on the phone. They put it back in. They go, thank you so much. And they take their coffee back and they walk away. But then about 20 minutes later, if you're at a mall or school campus or whatever, a person comes by with a clipboard and they give you $20, and they say, listen, I know this sounds crazy, but if you'll give me 30 seconds of your time, the $20 is yours. I need you to read two minutes of this, literally this little story, and then just answer three questions for me. Here's the interesting part. Half the people have a reaction more than 80%, and half have a reaction, 80% difference. And here's the question. They read the same story, but half the people are handed hot coffee, half the people handed iced coffee. And the question they ask is, how would you describe the main character of the story after they read a few paragraphs? And the people who are handed hot coffee say the person is warm and genuine. 81% of the people, 79 to 80, 79.8. It's almost. It's a 1% difference. Natural variability. Who are giving the iced coffee, say the person is cold and uncaring. I could tell you 20 studies like that that would blow your mind. How your brain is conditioned or primed by the environment. And think about all that's gone on with COVID of the last two years and how many people's brains live in fear. And in my new health book, I put in there, just to remind people, with COVID outside being 80 years old, the number one, or having four or five comorbidities, number one factor, 80% of people die of COVID 79.8% obese. That's something you can do something about. The second factor, according to the cdc, is fear. Because anxiety makes people get short of breath, they freak out, and their whole nervous system starts to go shut down. Your immune system can be shut down just by fear alone. And so this experience of life that we have, most people just don't understand that you are being primed all the time. And unless you prime yourself, you're going to be primed by the environment, which most people understand that your brain right now is being conditioned and triggered whether you know it or not. If you're in any social network, it's being done continuously by algorithms. So I want to take control of my brain. So I do three quick things. One, I take three minutes of those 10 minutes after I've changed my body and I focus on three different events in my life that I'm grateful for. I usually pick two big ones and one small one. It could be as simple as a smile on my daughter's face, the wind against, you know, my skin. But I really, I don't like, if you've ever been on a roller coaster and you remember the roller coaster over there, it's not the same as remember going over the edge like you're there. So I do it in an associated way and it changes your biochemistry. Now it sounds pretty, you know, positive thinking. I'm going to be grateful. But there's a value to it because the two emotions that mess up your business, your life, your relationships, are anger and fear. And you can't be angry and grateful simultaneously. And you can't be fearful and grateful simultaneously. So by starting my day with that, and it's not some fake pump up positive thinking, the real experiences. So it literally teaches your body to go in that state because otherwise the environment we're in right now, there's a whole lot of uncertainty and fear. Then real fast, I do this three minute process that's kind of like a blessing. And then three minutes. The last three minutes are called three to thrive, where I focus on three things I want to accomplish. But instead of thinking I want to accomplish, I see feel and experience. It is done. I feel grateful, I celebrate it, and it trains your brain. So in 10 minutes, I'm done. Third thing that I'll do, I immediately send a message or a text or an audio message to somebody as a sincere compliment. And I don't go, dude, great job, or wow, you're cool. I say, listen, I saw you on Tuesday with those kids and I saw you take that extra 20 minutes, no one else did. And I just want you to know I saw that, I thought that was incredible. So I'm always very specific so they know it's not just some positive thinking bull call. It's sincerely doing it. It makes me constantly look for the good in the people I work with. Fourth thing I do is whatever I don't want to do. The most challenging part of the day, I want to go handle that problem. I want to handle that issue. Because after you do that, everything has momentum. So those four are my core now, my workouts, what I've done to be able to have more energy and vitality and strength. I just finished a book called Lifeforce, spent three years on it. And in there I give all the details of what to do depending upon what your goals are and what your direction is, stage of life. Are you looking for more energy or more strength? Are you looking to extend the quality of your life? Are you dealing with a real disease? And you know, I did money Master the Game and I interviewed at the time 50 of the smartest people in the world, financially, Ray Dalio, Warren Buffett, et cetera. This time I interviewed 167 Nobel laureates, scientists, and the greatest regenerative doctors on the face of the earth. So there's nothing in here. That's my opinion. It is all science. And it's stuff that you would think would happen 20 or 30 years in the future that's happening either right now or the things that are coming in the next 12 to 36 months that the FDA is currently looking at for approval.

I wanted to ask you a follow up to one thing you mentioned there, which I think a lot of people don't do, which I think you do incredibly well. I've seen you do this many times. You mentioned you reach out to someone, you'll text someone, you'll send a voice note or a video message, or maybe you're calling them or just saying hi to them and telling them you're acknowledging something that they're doing well that you appreciate. I don't think that many people do this. Why is this so important for you personally? And why do you think this would help so many people get out of themselves and overcome anxiety and stress if they did this even a couple of times a week? I know you do this every day, but just a couple texts a week? Why was this so valuable for people?

Well, number one, I love people, so I love to sincerely, if you just call someone to make a compliment and it's not sincere, anybody can feel that I don't do that. You know, it's like I, I pride myself on finding the goodness in people or the skill sets in people. And I also know that what is acknowledged tends to grow. So from standpoint of that, I want them to feel that feeling of being appreciated. I want them to know I see what's happening behind the camera, so to speak. You know, it's like that's what matters. It's not how everybody else sees you, it's how you really are. And then it also deepens every relationship you have when you sincerely acknowledge somebody and you notice something other people don't notice. And so it deepens the connection. And to me, quality of life is the quality of two things, your emotions and your relationships. And you know, if my emotions are terrible, my relationships are going to be terrible. But if I have great emotions and I can extend that out to help other people, then it just makes me feel more alive. So I do it for me and them. It's a virtuous cycle, right?

Yeah. And I think if someone's feeling stressed, the easiest way to overcome that is do what you said, which is focus on the things you're grateful for and get out of yourself and start acknowledging someone else and you'll build that deeper relationship and feel better in the process.

Yeah. Now you got positive momentum, energy. Now you attack the most difficult thing of your day. And when you make that your, your habit, the most difficult thing gets smaller and smaller because you're feeling stronger and stronger. Right. And then you have momentum and so now you'll attack the next difficult thing. And it doesn't even feel difficult at that point. But the whole secret is most of us don't realize, depending on which research you buy into, somewhere between 45 and 55% of what we do is habitual. And the great thing about habit is you don't have to think. So I don't know about you, but the first time I tried to drive a stick shift car when I was a little kid, like I'm supposed to do this, this, this, watch the rearview mirror. It's too much. But once you learn it, most of driving, 99% of it's habits. So now your brain is free to do other things. That's the value of making something habitual. The weakness of making it habitual is you don't grow. Right. The weakness of making it habitual is you don't feel fully alive. So it's like you got to find that balance in your life. But if you can create habits that make you do the right things for your mind, your body, your emotion, and for others. Then let those take over. Then it becomes. It's like working out. You and I both are workout nuts. And it's like in the early days, it's hard to work out at this stage of my life or yours. If you didn't work out or I don't work out, my bet is you'd be pissed off and frustrated. Right. You need to work out. It's a part of who you are. Now in the beginning days is like the last thing I wanted to do. But once it's in your life, that now frees you up to use that energy for everything else that matters in your life.

Yeah, absolutely.

You.

Two and a half years ago, I had the privilege of being in your. Your island in Fiji and spending a about a week with a small group of people, Dean and a bunch of other guys and gals. We got to spend some time with you. And you had a prediction. You said winter is coming.

Yes, I did.

And you, you know, Dean has told me that you have predicted many things over the last four decades in, you know, the economy and what's happening in the world and all these different crises. You're, you're kind of on the front lines of access to the most brilliant people in the world. So you, you know what's happening before it happens. And you said to us, winter is coming. You probably knew this two years prior to that. And you said you don't know when exactly, but it's coming soon. And then, I don't know, four or five months later, it hit. And it hit hard for a lot of people. And it's still hitting hard like you're talking about over the last couple years. And I don't think it's going to slow down anytime soon. It seems like there might be some hope. And then boom, another wave, and then another wave of something, whatever it is. What did you learn from researching in the new book, with all these different experts on how we can really take back control of our mind, our health, in new ways to support us when the winter continues to hit? Because it doesn't seem like it's going away anytime soon.

You're hitting on a huge note. I'd love to plant the seed with everyone listening, and that is we're about halfway through winter, but my hope is this is the year where that part starts to change. But we're still in winter, meaning so many people have been conditioned to be fearful, so many businesses have been shut down, our children Kept out of school for such a long period of time that there's after effects on that. And it's also. You want to be a student of history. Think of it this way for a second. When did mankind really become a dominant force on earth? When they made one distinction. I've shared this with you when we were private. I think I told you there's three skills that you want to master if you want an extraordinary life. No matter what decade we're in. You've probably read Oxford and many other universities are doing these studies where they say half the jobs we have today will be gone by 2040, which sounds like a long time, but it's 18 years from now. And that'll go like this. My grandkids, my daughter, it's like what I want to help them with. Well, the first skill you got to master to be great. You're the school of greatness, is the ability to recognize patterns. When humanity recognized the pattern of the seasons, the whole world changed. Because we went from hunter gatherers trying to survive from place to place where we're exposed to everything to. Wait a second. If we plant in the springtime, we protect in the summer, we reap in the fall, and then we hang on to some of that so we can live through the winter. That created communities for the first time and then eventually cities and states and countries. So that changed the world. What will change a person's life is when you realize there's also a set of seasons in your own life. And so think of it this way. 0 to 21 is springtime. Things are easy to grow in springtime. You don't have to do that much. Growing as a kid happens naturally. And some people live a protected childhood, some of us not so much. But overall, life is supporting you. It's sending you, teaching you, sharing with you. Now when you get from, you know, 21 to 41, or 22 to 42, whatever range you want to talk about, some people get there at 16, some people get there at 25. You now are in the real world. And now you go test what you learned in your springtime, and it's a hot summer and you find out, holy shit, a relationship's different than I thought it was. When I'm in an intimate relationship, committed, it's not the thing I just envisioned so easily or I'm not as bulletproof as I thought I was. I'm not president of the United States already and a billionaire, like I said I was going to be when I was, you know, 19. So you start to learn, test, figure out what's real. It's an important stage of life. 42, 43 to 62, 63 is the power of your life. It's the reaping time. If you worked hard in the spring and the summer and you put yourself out there and you planted, it's a reaping time. It's a time when you really become a leader. Just everyone's different, some sooner or later, but it's a great stage to understand. And then if you're lucky, you go from 63 to 83 and maybe 83 to 103 of the oldest living humans. 119. You have an exceeding extended final season of your life where you get to be the mentor, you get to share, you get to make a difference. And maybe towards the end of your life, people look out for you again after you looked out for everybody else. That's kind of the cycle of life. But then there's a third pattern, and that's the cycle of history. The most powerful people, by the way, have used not only pattern recognition, but the second skill, pattern utilization. They see a pattern and they use it. So you'd say, how did Jeff Bezos become the richest man in the world? The answer is simple. He studied the growth in the Internet at an early stage and saw how explosive it was. It was like nothing else he could see. And he just figured any product books was the easy one to start with. But he got himself in, and then he started to learn the real secret. The convenience is what people value more than anything else. And when he honed in on that one distinction, he not only recognized the pattern, used the pattern. The people that are real masters create their own patterns, right? You play everybody else's music, and then eventually you get good enough, you can create your own music, right? So the similar thing happens. And so what's occurred is in humanity is you go through, there's this. Seasons in nature, there's seasons in my life, and then there's seasons in history. So watch this. This is what gives me great optimism for everyone watching here. First of all, winter's not forever. No pandemic lives forever. No, you know, war lives forever. Nothing, everything changes and everything ends, means something new occurs. You may not like it, but that's how life is. And the good news about winter is it's always followed by springtime. Historically, some winters are long, some are short, but they're always followed by springtime. What follows? The night. The daytime. What a cool way to set it up. If you were God or The universe, right? So imagine for a second all of your listeners or viewers and you think about it too. What if you're born in 1910? Now you know the seasons of a person's life. So from 1910, the next 19, 20 years of your life, you're going to be absorbing what was happening. World War I ends. The world looks like it's a great place. New technology, cars, radio. And then what happens? An explosion of abundance, the roaring twenties. And so you're a kid, you're 14, 15 years old, and you're like, I can't wait to get a car to go. But what happened when that person hit the next stage of life, 1920, 21 years old as they came of age. It's 1929 and suddenly people are jumping out of buildings. Total depression, dust bowl, nobody's got jobs. It looks horrific and it was horrific. But did they get a break? No. When they turn 29, it's 1939. So think about it. Now World War II breaks out. You and I don't remember. We weren't there. But anybody who was alive will tell you. It looked like the whole world was going to end. Hitler was sweeping across Europe, bombing London. It literally looked like the world as we know it was over. And this group of people, like millennials or Z generation, a lot of people make fun of and they go there, you know, whatever, wallflowers, I forget the terms they use. And then the millennials in Z generation argue about, you're old because you parked in the middle versus the side. I mean, it's bull. The same bullshit was happening then. These people are called flappers. They were irresponsible. But here's the, here's history. And one thought, good times create weak people, weak people create bad times. Bad times create strong people. Strong people create good times. That's the history of the world over and over and over again. Yes. And so what happened is that generation who was weak became strong because the environment demanded it. They became the heroes. And think about how different the 1930s and 40s were versus after the war, 45 through 50, up until Kennedy, 63, that 20 year period was what a lot of people thought was the greatest time in America. Now certainly wasn't. If you're African American started to become better. If you're a woman. But then think about after Kennedy died and Robert Kennedy is killed and Martin Luther King is killed. Think about the 60s and the 70s, how different they were than the 80s, 90s, 2000s. So we go through these seasons. I could show them to You a thousand years of Roman history and you can see them. There's a book I highly recommend. Bill Clinton gave me this book called Generations when I was working with him 25 years ago. About a 700 page book. But the same authors, William Strauss and Neil Howard, wrote a smaller book which might be more helpful. And I call it's called the Fourth Turning. I read it in 1997 and it shows you the seasons of history and how everybody enters that. Like everyone's going to have winter. Some are going to have it in their 20s, some are going to have it in their 40s, some are going to have their 60s or 80s, some are going to have it when they're children. And then we all move through these seasons that are pretty much historic because the older person dies. Everybody loses that lesson. And then we tend to unfortunately, have to relearn some lessons again. So I want you to know that if it looks really horrible right now, if you follow those cycles, we're about halfway through winter. And winter usually starts with a financial winter, which was I was referring to. I did not predict the pandemic. But there are pandemics, as there were 80 years ago. Right. But in addition to that, there's always a great war. And it could be a cyber war, could be a war with China. But there's no question we are not done with what we're going to deal with. In fact, I'm reading right now. One of the ways I stay on the cutting edge is I'm constantly studying history because people say it doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes. And this is a book that anybody who really wants to know where the world's going. It's Ray Dalio's newest book, the Changing World Order. I mean, it's incredible. It's 500 years of history. So my whole thing is leaders anticipate, losers react. If you can anticipate what's coming, you can really take advantage. If you wait till it hits you, you're in trouble. So I think we're in a time where it's going to be a better year if you're willing to be better. Right. Winter can be a beautiful time. As you've heard me say before, you can freeze the death, or you can ski and snowboard and have a great time with your family and build something. And so then when spring comes, you can really take advantage. But if you look at the world, the most successful businesses started in a winter. 68% of the Fortune 1000 were started in either in a recession or a depression. I don't care if you're talking about Disney or Exxon in the Depression or pizza hut or FedEx in a recession or Apple in a recession. So this is your time. But you have to get your head straight, and you got to get your energy strong. And that's not easy when most people are shoved in their houses and isolated and heard nothing but fear. So you got to take back control.

Absolutely. One of the things in the sports arena that I learned growing up was if you stay ready, you don't have to get ready.

I love that.

And you, again, you've worked with, interviewed, you're friends with the top peak performers in the world and in all industries. You know them all. What are one or two practices, besides the one you talked about with your morning routine from peak performers that you've studied or maybe you've implemented, that keeps them prepared so they don't have to get ready, they stay ready.

Well, I think, unfortunately, the real things are simple. That's why nobody does them. So if you took Ray Dalio or Warren Buffet, I mean, they're readers. I'm a constant reader. But I don't just read anything. I read something that I think can give me an edge of understanding. I mean, look at it. Louis, you and I both know most people, Jim Rohn used to say, my teacher used to say most people major in minor things. You know, they know more about some actress's personal life than they know about their own physical body or their vitality or their energy or their emotion or their business or their career. And so what matters? A few subjects, your body, because your energy matters. That energy is low. Everything I just said is worthless to you because you're just going to go, he's talking too fast, and there's a lot going on. And. Yeah, well, hopefully the future will be better because when you're low energy, you don't use your full intelligence or ability. And most of us have not moved so much because of the environment of COVID where everybody was pretty much locked down. And unless you live like I did in Florida, the point of the matter is, most people, that energy has been lower. So you need energy, you need emotion. If you don't know how to master your emotion, emotions start wars. Emotion creates peace. Emotion gets you laid. Emotion gets your children. Emotion is what can make that business work or fail. And most people don't know how to direct their own emotions. What's another lesson? You got to look at your own financial world. If you don't master it, it's going to Create enormous stress. Your relationships are everything, as we've already said, your business or your career or hopefully it's your mission. And then there's the spiritual side of life. So you can take a half dozen areas and go, let me find who's genius in this area and let me go learn from them. Let me go read, let me listen to podcasts. Let me. Let me be conscious about feeding my brain. Things that are going to give me not only inspiration, but insight and skill and tools. And everyone I know who is not only successful, but is able to contribute back to society, it has a hunger to constantly improve at least one area of those six areas of your life, and the most happy, the ones that hit multiple areas. And that's why one of the reasons I wrote Lifeforce, richest man in the graveyard is not your goal. You know, it's like there's an old phrase that says, you know, a person who's healthy has a million dreams. A person who's not healthy has one. You know, So I wanted to give people the cutting edge in that area because it's such a critical area of.

All these different areas of life. Mastering emotions, financial world, relationships. What do you. What do you think is the root of people lacking what they really want in all those areas? Is it the confidence? Is it the skill set? Is it some. What else do they, you know, what is the root cause of holding them back from really growing in all those areas?

I think it's a couple things. One is the biggest problem people have is they think they're not supposed to have any. And problems are the fuel for growth, right? And so, like, if you don't have any problems, you're either a liar or you might call them challenges. It feels better. I understand that. But, you know, anybody doesn't have problems is either totally asleep at the wheel or they don't have much of any kind of a life. No. No responsibility, nothing. They're building. So I think the first thing is this misnomer that if I have a problem, there's something wrong with me or my life. I think the second one is this delusion we've sold people on that getting what you want is going to make you happy. You know, you could call success getting what you want. I don't define it that way, but that's how most people do. But then there's fulfillment, and fulfillment is living what you're made for. It's like, I think the biggest challenge people have and the reason they're not able to respond to challenges, they're Just thinking about themselves. And it's not that hard to meet your own needs. And it's nobody's fault. I mean, these little things in our pocket, these little mini computers we used to call phones, I mean, they're constantly conditioning you to instantly get what you want. And that's not how human relationship works. And that sure as hell not how you build a business. Right. It's not a straight line. If you go to nature, you will not see a straight line unless a human built it. Because everything grows a little up and down like a stock, like anything else. But if it really grows, it keeps growing, but it's a winding process. And so I think the problem is that people don't have something that they're wanting to serve more than themselves. That's where my energy comes from. I don't have to work on a day of my life. Why the hell do I do all this crazy stuff? I got 105 companies now and I got all these different industries because it's so much more interesting to be in the game of life and keep growing and expanding and being challenged. That's what makes you feel alive and do all their problems with 105 companies, I can promise you. But if I thought my life was supposed to be problem free, I would be really stressed out. And if I was just doing it for me, I would have stopped a long time ago. It's like, I know you've asked me a lot of times about confidence. You just mentioned it again. Like, is there a lack of confidence? No, it's a lack of mission. Right? Because what happens is when you have something you want to serve, if it's your child and everything's on the line, you won't come up with answers you'll never come up with for yourself. Right? So it's like having that sense of mission. And then I think the next problem is that people think they have to know how. I call it the tyranny of how like you get all excited, I'm going to do this. And then your brain goes, I've never done it before. Oh my God, what did I say? I don't know how to do this. And they tend to focus on how to do it. And when you start with how you're screwed. Like Martin Luther King had no idea how when he did his I have a dream speech. In fact, his wife was the one that pushed him because he was uncertain. Right? You know, the real history. It's pretty interesting. But the bottom line is he gets up there and he gives his vision of how it can be done. He talked about what needs to happen and why. If you can figure out what you want and why you want it and you get strong enough for reasons, reasons that'll drive you late at night, it'll get you up early in the morning. And the reasons are different. Some people do it for nitty gritty reasons. Jim Rohn used to say, because, you know, some guy told him he borrowed money from this finance company, I forget the name of HFC Finance, whatever the hell it was. And you know, he hadn't been back since he borrowed the money. So they're calling him. In those days, they could harass you in ways they can't today, right? They call him, show up, embarrass him in front of his neighbors. And so Jim Rohn, his first real chunk of money he told me he made because it's like he set this goal. It was his nitty gritty reason. His reason to get rich was so we could go down and pay this thing off. And he said he went to the bank and got it all in cash and in small bills, and he bolted into this little HFC Finance place. And the guy who borrowed the money was the fourth best back. And he said, I walked up there, I opened up this brief and I dumped all the money all over his desk in small bills. And I said, count it. It's all there. I will never be back. He said he was startled because I hadn't been there since I borrowed the money, right? But he did it for that he agreed with. Some people do it for their kid. Some people will do it like we almost all do it for something more than ourselves. Some people do it because they like winning, right? I know that about you, right? It's like, I like winning. I like being the best at what I do. So I'm not going to settle for less than that. Why would I, right? So you got to find your reasons. But if you know what you want and you get a big enough why now? You'll figure out how to do it. But if you start with how, you know, the small brain, the fear brain goes, oh, shit, I don't know what they do. I don't know where to go. I don't know what to do 90% of the time either, I know what and why. And then I try something doesn't work, I try something else, just something else. Now I speed it up by learning from the best. So that's why, you know, Money Master the Game, is a perfect example. My companies, you know, at the time were $100 million companies. I had one $500 million company. Now we're doing 7 billion. I took what I learned from these guys. I applied it not only to my investing, I applied it to my own businesses. Why do I reinvent the wheel when I just learned from the best on earth? I mean, somebody who's that good can tell you that little 2 millimeter thing that changes everything. So my life is really about learn from the best. But I don't start with the how. I start with the what and the why. And I think that's the mistake most people make. And then how do you get confident you do stuff? I mean, like, I'll give you an example. Speaking. You know, it's supposedly outside of falling, like the second biggest fear people have, public speaking. And, you know, you've trained yourself so you don't feel that challenge. But I don't feel that challenge. I've done it a million times, but I didn't feel it early on. And the reason was I tried to explain to people, I'm not getting up thinking about how I'm doing. If I did, I'd probably be a horrible critic of myself because I can be brutal in those ways. I'm focused on how do I serve them? What do they need? What do they want? How can I serve? And when you're focused on others and how to serve them, there's no lack of confidence in you. Because if it's not working, you just change your approach because it's all about serving. People that are scared to speak are thinking constantly, how am I doing? Am I good enough? Am I strong enough? You'll never get confidence. Confidence comes from doing something so many. Confidence is tying your shoes, right? Confidence on Michael Jordan making a thousand shots before you take a break. Every single day, six days a week. So you look at Jordan or you look at, you know, LeBron, or you look at anybody who's the best in the world of what they do, and you go, aren't they lucky? But if you actually study them, you'll see they're doing things. They're practicing in private, things that make them certain in public. And they get rewarded for what they do in public. Yeah. And you gotta do the same.

It's interesting because public speaking was probably my most terrifying thing. I wasn't even able to speak in front of, like, four, five people without stuttering and just kind of forgetting what I wanted to say. I couldn't get my message across. So I took a year of public speaking class with toastmasters just to get reps in a group of people that are, you know, are going to give you positive feedback and in a safe environment. So I could just get in front of a room, practice a five minute speech and know that I'm going to make mistakes. It's interesting what you said is 100% true about thinking about serving others because for, I think it was probably seven years I was, I was speaking on stages and I would still get nervous like a day or two before. It wasn't as bad as the first two years where it was like a week before. Now it was only like a day or two. And I called my, my coach at the time, his name's Chris Lee. And I said, I don't know why I'm speak, I've been doing this for long enough now. Shouldn't I be not afraid anymore? And he said, you're thinking about messing up, missing the joke, forgetting what you're going to say in the first line, forgetting you're thinking about how you're looking as opposed to serving people. And he said, exactly, you know, exactly what you just said. He's like, when you just know you're gonna mess up, it's not gonna be perfect. You're gonna get. Forget that line that you really wanted to say, but just put all the energy on the audience, everything starts to change. And so your, your message speaks to me because I'm an example of that.

And it really shifts me. Congratulations. Because obviously you kick ass in that area now. But think about that. You just gave people the truth, right? How do you build confidence? Is action the biggest mistake? People think they're supposed to walk out and be good at it. And if they're not, because, you know, they don't want any part of it, I don't not look good, not be good. Because we live in this social media world where they compare themselves to people that are bullshitting. You know, I got a friend that owns a gym and we laugh about this all the time. He says, Tony at least two or three times. First time he told me, I couldn't believe it. But I saw it happen. One time I went to go pick him up, we were going to have lunch and he goes, look at this. And these people would come out, a woman or a man, they both do it and lay out all this stuff, take a million pictures of themselves and then leave. They didn't do any workout whatsoever. That's the bull. Social media, when filters on pictures and so people compare themselves to not other humans. They compare to people. There's bull Story. And that's why so many people get depressed when they. You know, I'm sure you've seen the studies show the more time people spend on social media, usually the greater levels of frustration and anger and certainly depression for a lot of people have, because you're comparing to a world that doesn't matter. Plus, you're being reinforced by these algorithms in ways that go beyond your conscious awareness.

What happens when we don't lean into our fears or we just allow our fears to stay inside of us, our insecurities to stay inside of us for years or decades, and we never actually learn to act on them and improve them? What happens to us if we just allow these fears to. To hold us back?

Well, what happens to a muscle if you don't use it? We say you lose it. You don't actually lose it, but it gets weaker and weaker, as you well know. Right. And what happens the minute you start making demands on it, especially if you haven't made demands in a while? It doesn't take much to see real muscle growth. Right. And so it's like if you. If you constantly live in fear, your world gets smaller and smaller, and it tends to get more fearful. Like, who's more fearful? Someone has broken 10 bones in their body and healed them as a kid, or someone never broke a bone. You know, the answer is the kids that are overprotected are fearful all the time. But if you've gone out in the street and you know, you got in a fight and you know you busted your arm or your hand or finger or you played football or whatever the hell it is or boxed or something, it's like, now it's like, I'm not afraid of that crap because you've lived it, and there's no substitute. I always tell people a belief is a poor substitute for an experience. You think you know what China is, but I take you to China, you have a little different experience. And so almost everything I do is give someone an experience. That's the reason, you know, I did the firewalk. I still do, but did for so many years. I did. Before that, I used to do skydiving. But it's hard to get 15,000 people above the sky in New York in the middle of the night. So I had to come up with other tools. But the firewalk was, again, giving you an experience of something that seemed difficult or impossible. And then you get yourself to do it, and your brain goes, wait a second, If I could do that, what else could I get myself to do? That psychological Shift is the most important shift that people can make. It's a shift in your identity.

Why is identity so important for us to shape a positive, powerful identity?

Well, first of all, so everybody understands. What I mean by identity is we all have a way of identifying ourselves, we have a way of labeling ourselves. So most of us came up with our labels based on how we behaved. But really smart people can do stupid things, really nice people can be mean, mean people can be nice. And so if you judge yourself too soon, and most people's identity, their labels for themselves, who they think they are, has been based on their past and often many years ago, and so they don't update it. So the metaphor I'd give for identity is like, it's your comfort zone, it's not your goals. So if you like, if you took a temperature in the room and said, 68 degrees is my comfort zone, physically, emotionally, financially, I want more in my relationship, I want more physically, energy wise, I want more financially in my career, but this is what I'm used to. And so what happens? People stay in their comfort zone for the most part. And then let's say something happens and you dip. You're a 68 degree, or that's your mentality. And you drop down to 62, 61, 60, somewhere around 60 or 59, the heaters kick on and go, whoa, whoa, Whoa, you're a 68°. What the hell are you doing? We've all experienced that. All of a sudden you go, I'm not going to live like this anymore. I'm not going to be in this relationship. I'm not going to be fool fat like this. Boom. And you get this drive and you start to change. But what most people don't understand is it happens on the upper end too. Meaning, let's say you got momentum, you start crushing it. You start doing even better than you think. You go from 68 to 78 to 8, you're at 98 degrees financially, emotionally, spiritually, whatever the metaphor is. And then what happens? You're going to say, hey, hey. Your brain goes, who the hell do you think you are? You're not a 98 degree error, right? Get back to 68. And if nothing else, the heaters stop, you lose your drive, and that'll drift you back and not enough. The air conditioner kick on. You start to kind of sabotage yourself till you get back to your comfort zone. So unless you expand your identity, change is temporary. It's like when someone says to me, I stopped smoking, it's been eight days I go, why are you counting? And I say, why are you counting? So you can tell people how long you lasted this time. Like, if I went to somebody and I said to you, hey, you know, Louis, you want a cigarette? You're not going to say, what brand is it? You go, no, I'm not a smoker. Notice how people are. I'm not one of those. That's not my identity. Identity is the strongest force in the human personality. If you look at Lance Armstrong, who has a mixed identity, and, hell, in the culture, this is a guy that had to win and found a way to win. So when he was told he had cancer in his lungs, in his brain, and in his testicles, and he rides a bike and he's going to die, his answer was, no, I'm a champion. I find the way. I will find the answer. And he did. Now, unfortunately, he bent the rules around the sport, and it kind of ruined his reputation, obviously, but that mentality, his identity, is why he survived. Other people told they have cancer and they're like, it's over, they give up, they start arranging their affairs. And so that psychological difference is the number one thing I work with people on. Because unless you expand your identity, you're gonna basically keep where you are. You might improve little or not. You might go up and down a bit, but you're going to stay within a realm. If you're going to have an explosive breakthrough to another level, physically, mentally, financially, spiritually, then we got to not only give you the tools, we got to shift that internal sense of who you really are and have you find that you are more than anything that's ever happened to you, that you can handle whatever shows up, even if it's incredibly scary or uncomfortable.

One of the biggest challenge I see a lot of people having is the identity. When they start to have some success, they expand. They get to, you know, 80, 85, 90, 100 degrees and start to really grow and expand. What would you say is one of the main factors to help people to continue to break through to a higher degree as opposed to going back into the comfort zone? Is it a habit? Is it a mindset? Is it a belief? Is it environment? You know, what are this? What are those things, would you say? Or a couple of things to help you continue and not fall back down.

It's. It's. I'm sorry to be a broken record, but it's just the truth. It's a purpose larger than yourself that keeps you going. If it's only to meet your own needs, you Will drop back into your comfort zone. But for example, one of the great things that came out of COVID is I've spent most of my life as a vagabond because I travel all over the earth. So in most years I travel to 115 cities. And as you know, most of my seminars are multi day seminars. And I go to 12 to 16 countries, like Australia three times. And so all of a sudden Covid hits and I had to adapt. I found this way to adapt. And now I'm 10 dogs. I mean, my largest seminar is now 900,000 versus 15,000. I was trying. I did one football stadium in 2019 with 38,000 people, 40,000 people. It was incredible. Now that's a tiny seminar because I couldn't put 900,000 people in any stadium, right? So all this good comes from that adaptation, right? Figuring out what to do. But I think the other part of it is, you know, during that same time, one of the great gifts was I could find a way to be home and still touch people's lives so deeply and do it in a way that was impactful. I could see it and feel it in their home. I could see their children. I mean, it's been amazing. And now I do both. I do hybrid. I got a thousand people in front of me in 197 countries, all around me. But one of the other benefits was is we'd want to have a daughter. And I told my wife I'm not having a kid after 50. I don't want to show up at high school reunion and be 70 years old. But now I've got a 48 year old daughter and a 9 month old daughter giving idea. I got 5 kids in my granddaughter, but my daughter, like all the things I've ever done for myself, biohacking and health and all that stuff. Like Now I'll be 80 at her high school reunion. So I gotta use these things for a different reason. And so that doesn't let me get to a certain level and stand there. It's like, man, I gotta be 92 to 102 range in order to do that. I gotta know every tool in the tool book to turn around. So gave me even more drive. And then what comes out of that now is I can help anybody. I mean, you know, this is my new book by the way. It's called Lifeforce. It's coming out February 8th, but you can pre order it now on Amazon or go to tonyrobbins.com but the point is, it's like I want to know every single tool. Like, I got totally obsessed, even more than I normally am, because it's like, okay, I got a higher purpose. I got all my grandkids, all my children, but now I got my daughter. It's like, I gotta have these tools. So, you know, you probably know, I think you remember about four years ago, five years ago, I was being crazy, and I was snowboarding chasing somebody who was 25 years old and a professional, right? And I was not a professional, regardless of age. And I had one of the most horrific accidents. I tore my rotator cuffs. And, you know, I was. I've lived with pain like you. We both athletes, so you know what it's like to live in pain. But I was nine. Nine nerve pain. Like, couldn't sleep more than 30 minutes in a night. Going to see these doctors, and what do they all say? Every single one says the same thing. Surgery, got to cut it. It's the only way. And then I go, okay, how long's the rehab? Well, you know, there's no guarantee your shoulder work again, completely. Could break again, but, you know, probably four to six months. I'm one of the best. So it's like my brain's like, no, there's got to be a better way. And I remember seeing this study at Mayo Clinic where they said, you got to get a second opinion. They recommend to this day, it doesn't matter how good the doctor is, because only 12% of the time is the second opinion the same as the first, which means 88% of the time, it's different. And so it's like, okay, I need more opinions. I was getting the same opinions. I was going the same kind of doctor. So then I went to Peter Diamandis, who's my partner and friend. And, you know, he's an MD from Harvard, but he's also a rocket scientist. I was like, what about stem cells? I know a little bit about stem cells. So he interviewed me, interviewed me to Dr. Bob Harari. And they're both my cousins, co authors in the book now, and both my partners. And Bob's the guy that took. You know, people remember, probably remember years ago, 38 years ago, somebody took old rats and gave them young rats blood and vice versa. And magically, the old rats got young. Muscle, strong, hair, darker. And the old, young rats got old. It's kind of a vampire thing, but that's how stem cells were discovered. So I went to him and he said, tony, look, your shoulder is shredded. So I can't guarantee anything, but if you go get stem cells here in the U.S. forget it, because the way they regulate everything else, it's not going to do it. So go to Panama. And he goes, I want you to go down to this location and I want you to get three day old stem cells. And he said, they're cord stem cells. It's not fetal tissue. I'd never do that. They throw away the cords and it's full of this life force that literally can change everything. And so I went down and I got this IV and yeah, I felt okay. And next day I was really sleepy. I woke up the third morning. Not only was my shoulder perfect, I have the mri. Just blow your mind. Three days. But the most important thing is I had spinal stenosis. I've been in massive back pain for 14 years. No back pain whatsoever. No exaggeration. So I became nuts. First for stem cells and then for anything in regenerative medicine. So then I get invited by the pope to be the cleanup speaker on a. Believe it or not, the Pope puts on the number one stem cell regenerative conference every two years because he sees it's not fetal tissue and he sees it as a gift from God and it's healing people in ways they've never seen before. So they asked me to be the cleanup speaker. I'm like, I'm no idiot. I'm not going to come clean up, speak. I want to go the whole four days and attend every class. And so I met the greatest scientists on the face of the earth. Nobel laureates, brilliant people who are doing these breakthroughs in cancer and heart disease and Alzheimer's, but also regenerative medicine. And so right then I said, I'm going to write a book. I'm going to do like money, master the game, Only There I interviewed 50 of the most financially successful people in history. Here I interviewed 168 of the greatest Nobel laureates, scientists, MDs, the best on earth on how do you generate more energy? So, like, for example, for years, if someone like a fireman or a person falls in a fire, you know what they look like afterwards. It's grotesque. It's so sad for their life. And the standard treatment is put cadaver skin on there to help them survive initially. Well, today there's seven hospitals in the United States where they take your stem cells and they spray it on your face. And in the book, I show a picture of this fireman before and three weeks later, and you could never tell he was even in the fire. Jack Nicklaus, one of the greatest golfers of all Time couldn't stand for more than 10 minutes. He gave me an endorsement for the book and he got stem cells. And this other piece we show you on how to eliminate pain in a natural, scientific way. He's playing golf again for the first time. Cristina Ronaldo, the greatest, you know, football, soccer player in the world, you know, gave me a Norsemount of books because it's the same thing. He's used regenerative medicine, completely turn his life around. So there are tools that are blow your mind. There are tools for preventing things that'll blow your mind. There's a new test that just came out. I got a call from some of my partners about five, six months ago. And he said, tony, you know, there's been a breakthrough in the number one killer in America, which is heart disease, right? And they said there's this new scan called a CCTA scan. And if you've ever had a CT scan, you know, they tell you how much calcium, they give you a score on your calcium. But hardened calcium is actually healed in the body. It's the loose calcium they call the widowmaker that can then block an artery and give you a stroke or give you a heart attack. And he goes, tony, it's so hard to read. I'm sure you've had them before. I said, I have. He goes, they now this AI that literally opens digitally every single one of your, you know, entries in your body, flow in your body, arteries, et cetera, and it goes through using AI and shows what's actually hardened and good and what's loose and gives you a score and then shows you what to do. He said, they can predict a heart attack between seven and 10 years in advance and show you what to do so it never happens. So my father in law is with me at the time. He's 80s, you're about to be 80 years old. He's a strong and beautiful man. But, you know, people around you start telling you you're getting older, 80, arrange your affairs. And I could just see the decline in his psychology. And then your physiology usually matches that. So I said, dad, I said, I'm going to go to our center here in Florida. I said, I'm going to take a couple hours and do this new test and meet some guys and talk. Why don't you come with me? Let's do it together. I said, we're both at the stage of life where we're going to obviously have some of this calcium, but they don't show us what to do. I said, why don't we Go do it. My father in law, who worked his whole life lifting lumber, he had his own business. He is clean as a whistle. And then we have these tools that I write about in the book too. Like I had this ankle of mine that if I ever had a massage the last 18 years, like, don't touch it because if you did, the nerves go crazy. And it literally up my spine like an electrical shock. And I went in for a five minute procedure. They scan what's going on in the tissue in your body, right? And then they put in this fluid that opens up the channel and then it heals it. It's amnio fluid, for example. And it was like, it was a 10 minute procedure. And I've never had a problem with my ankle since. That was like three years ago. So my dad had a hip issue. So while we're there, they do his hip and he walks perfectly out with no pain for the first time in 12 years. So we're getting on the plane and this is what I want for the book, for people. It's one of the reasons I wrote it. My dad says to me, father in law, he goes, you know, Tony, those people talk about 120 and that. I don't know about that stuff, but he goes, you know, I'm 80 and my heart is solid. And he goes, and my hips are working and my muscles are strong. He goes, I can live another 20 years. He goes, you've only known my daughter for 22 years, been married to her. He goes, that's like a lifetime. He's got this whole new lease on life. So there are so many things you can do that can take away your fears about cancer, heart disease, Alzheimer's, et cetera, or if you're there, things you can do so that you can have an alternative set of treatments that maybe are less toxic or have greater opportunity. And again, none of it's my opinion. Everything just like money. Master the game is coming from the greatest medical doctors and scientists in the world. And it's everything from how to get stronger, how to be able to eliminate challenges in your body, how to produce more energy and strength in the shortest period of time, or how to heal the body if you're going through some real challenges.

I'm so excited about Lifeforce. And I read the first. The first interview I did with you, I think was six years ago, and it was for money To Master the game.

Oh, yeah.

And. And is the book like 600 pages? It's probably the biggest book I've ever read. I mean, it's like chock full of.

It's almost identical. This. I use bible paper. It's 674 pages. Right.

I read the book and I remember being. So. I was in my early 30s at the time, so I had gotten decent, I would say, at earning, but I didn't know how to invest. And I literally just did whatever you said in the book and I said it and forget it. With index funds. I didn't really know what an index fund or fiduciary was. All these things you talked about in there. And I just looked the last week, I've doubled my investment. I had a big investment in there and it's doubled in the last six years.

Congratulations.

More than doubled, actually. And it's, it's steady, it's stable, and I can see kind of where it's going to go in the next five, ten years, so.

And you're not worried about it day to day, every day. Worried about checking it, all that.

Not about crypto going up and down and all stocks going up and down and all these things. It's just like it keeps growing as everything else in the world is uncertain. I. I have been really good at being an athlete, working out, you know, being pretty healthy overall throughout most of my life. But I can only imagine the things I'm going to learn when I read all of Life Force. I. I don't have a copy yet, but when I get it soon, I.

Literally just got this physical copy. So I'll send you one right away.

Exactly. When I get it, I'm going to go through this and start implementing it. Because if this does exactly what Money Master the Game did for money, for me, for my health, then I am, I'm pumped about this. So I'm very excited.

I'll tell you what, I wrote this book. Every book I write, I work with the intention of helping people change and improve their lives on a massive scale. But I wrote this book because it actually can save lives without exaggeration or hyperbole. And I wrote it not only for you, but for those you love, because as you get older, you'll discover more people call you and say, it happens to me every week. Somebody's got cancer, somebody's got a family member with Alzheimer's, somebody's had a stroke. And so now I can go, here's the cutting edge right now. Here are the doctors, people that you go to right now. Here's how to educate yourself literally in minutes on virtually every subject. That's why it's so robust. You can take as little of it or as much as you want. But you'll appreciate, as an athlete, some of the stuff in there that will blow your mind. I'm saying, blow your mind about how to increase your body's natural ability to produce energy and also how to keep you young longer. Because, you know, most people think of genes as their destiny, and I know you know better. Genes are not your destiny. Genes think of that as like the piano. What you care about is the piano player, right? And a piano player is the process that your body uses to direct those genes. And so there's a process that makes that possible, that keeps your system running, ideally. Think about it. When you're young, you have a mansion. Everybody works for you, is young. There's plenty of resources. As you get older, the mansion's older, it breaks down a bit more, the personnel's older because your stem cells are older. Like, all these things start to break down. But what if you could rejuvenate the house and the people in it and the systems going on in it? Well, it's like, you know, I'm fortunate enough to have a really wonderful plane, but my plane's not brand new. I made it brand new, I repainted it, I put new engines in it. But Instead of spending $100 million, I spent a third of that to have my own bbj. I can fly anywhere on Earth, and I'm basically in a flying house of 5,000 square feet. But I refurbished it all. Well, that's what's happening right now. I don't know if you saw it today. I wrote about this in the book. There's regeneration of body parts. That has already been happening for some time. Dr. Tony Atala has been doing this at Wake Forest university for, like, 15 years. He's replaced parts of people's bodies where he's grown them literally with stem cells so it doesn't get rejected and goes your body. Well, now they're doing it not only that way, but they're doing it with pig implants. And today was the first day I wrote about it coming. I said it would happen by the time you're reading this book. And it's happening right on schedule. They just did the first implants for a heart for a gentleman who couldn't get a heart transplant because, you know, 100,000 people are on the list, and 6,000 people are dying every year because they can't get it. But they're able to actually change the genome of the pig because they have the right structure. So your body doesn't reject it. And so. And we're the beginning. The beginning of that. Over the next two or three years, over the next five years, you're going to be able to. To actually grow from your own stem cells. This is not science fiction. They're doing it right now, but they'll do it in mass. You'd be able to grow those pieces, and if there's a breakdown, boom, you replace it with a new part, and it's brand new, just like you would like, you know, forget the plane. Think of a car. Most people have had a car that maybe they've refurbished, and now they make it all new. That's where we're heading to give you an idea, not to mention the fact that everything is code. So think of it this way. You know, it took 25 years ago, it took 13 years to do something that no one thought was possible. Ray Kurzweil is one of the people that drove it forward, good friend of mine. It was like mapping the genome. They thought it would take 100 years and $100 billion. And guess what? They did the thing in 13 years. After seven years, they'd only figured out 1% of it, and they all said, it'll never work. And he explained, 1% doubled over seven years will get us to 100%. We'll get to where we want to be. So they spent $2.7 billion in 13 years. Do you know what it costs to do your human genome right now? 600 bucks, and you can have it done overnight.

Wow.

I mean, transistors, you remember, you're probably not as old as I am, so you don't remember. But original transistors, you get 4,000 transistors, you know, put together to have this microchip. And it was a buck a transistor. Well, now you get 6 trillion for a fraction of a penny each. So our bodies are code. And so I'm sure you've heard about CRISPR and some of things happening there where they're literally changing the code of what's going on in your body and eliminating the disease completely. Dr. Sinclair from Harvard just did a piece where they turned on these Yamanaka factors. I won't try to explain it to you in two seconds, but it reverses the aging process. They took mice that are blind where the retinas, they've had glaucoma. So the nerves are gone and regrew the nerves, like reversed aging and the first time in history. And these animals can see they're doing gene therapy. As a young boy who can See again by gene therapy, by changing what's going on in the eyes. We are living in the greatest time in human history. And the changes that are going to happen over the next three to 12 years are beyond anything you could imagine.

It's amazing. I'm so excited for this book and I want to be respectful of your time, Tony, and ask you about this challenge. But before I ask you this, before I ask the last question about this and have you speak on it again, I just want to acknowledge you for constantly pushing the thermometer to the next level in your own life and just being on a mission to be in service to so many people, to help us in all these different areas of our life. It's really inspiring and I'm just grateful for all the work that you do and again, the model you're creating for so many of us.

Thank you.

I. I'm very excited about this. I believe it's a five day challenge. The breakthrough challenge.

Yeah.

Which, you know, anytime you do anything for free, it's like people should be paying tens of thousands of dollars for this because they get so much value from you. You're there consistently showing up, giving your passion, given your energy and wisdom. You know, over four decades of wisdom from learning and applying this and getting amazing results and, you know, learning from all your mistakes that you've made as well, that you've, that you've overcome. And this breakthrough challenge is really to help people take control back of their lives and develop a stronger mindset to get through the second half of winter. Because I'm sure it's going to be some, maybe some moments of ups and then some deeper downs and ups and downs throughout the way. So what can we expect with this challenge? How can we get signed up for it right now to make sure we don't miss out at all?

Let me tell you why I created it, and I'll tell you real quick how you can do it. It's free. There's no cost to it whatsoever. But what I want to mention, you just said something really important. I want to make sure people don't leave without winter. Doesn't mean every night, every day is dark and rainy or snowy and horrible. There's days that look like summer in the middle of winter. If you live in Florida, winter's a nice place. Right. So in winter, I don't want to make people feel like it's all going to be horrible. It just means that the overall theme is more challenging than not. And that's where we're going to probably be. And we're going to face some bigger challenges going forward, and that's going to make us grow. And then that'll set us up for a beautiful springtime where things are much easier and more fun for a while. Till you get the hot summer and then you go to fall. It's the cycle of life. But this all started in 2020, because before I figured out how to build these events where they could be done in people's homes and have a real transformational experience, people were home and I was hearing about all the suicides and kids stuck at home and what was happening to the parents, and drug abuse going through the roof. All the things that we now know, they were happening then already. But I'm connected to it because I know so many people. And so I was like, I gotta do something. So I said, you know what? I'm just gonna do a one day free seminar, like three, four hours, total immersion, and help people, like, get a new perspective. When you're in your house day after day, you lose perspective, you lose momentum, you lose energy. And I was like, that's bull. Everything I do is, you know, by total immersion. So, like, if you learn a language a little bit at a time, high school and college, few years later, you can't even speak the language. But if I said to you, I'm going to drop you in Rome for the next 12 weeks and I'm going to pick you up and you have no teacher, 12 weeks later, you're going to be speaking Italian really well, because that's how the brain works with immersion. That's why I do seminars with immersion. So I said, you know what I'm going to do five days, just 90 minutes a day. Usually goes two, two and a half hours. I gotta be honest, because I get into it and I really want to help people. I'm going to charge them nothing and I'm going to deliver to them in their homes so that there's no cost, there's no travel and I can reach them when they need it right now. And we had 430,000 people show up for the first one. It was the biggest event I'd ever done. And then last year, it looked like things were going to turn and, you know, people are getting excited, vaccines going to go. And I was like, okay, I'll do one more and let's do it for people. So they get momentum to take on this new experience. And we had 800 and something, 35,000 people, 40,000 people attend. So the issue looks like we'll have about a million people. And I'm going to do it one final time because I really believe we're turning the corner on Covid, like we've talked about. But what it is, is five days. And we're going to start with your energy. Because without that, like, this whole conversation we had is worthless. Because if you're tired or you're exhausted, or you just burn out, you've been through it all, your brain just doesn't function the right way. So the first day is really about how we shift that energy in you. And then the next day is about your emotions, the next day's relationship. And next thing's going to be your finance. The next day is going to be your career. And in five days, you get this massive burst of momentum and a whole new perspective. And you create a plan for your year, not some New Year's resolution that six weeks later you're doing nothing towards. And then you're part of our community. And I'll give you a fun story, I give you a hundred stories, but this one's really fresh for me because I just saw this man, his name's Matt Intinzi. Matt was in a car accident, I believe it was car accident. And he had an injury, a brain injury. He was put in bed. He was told he couldn't get off oxygen ever. He gained £700 in that bed. He couldn't even get up to go to the bathroom.

Oh, my God.

And this is over seven years. He's completely isolated, naked in bed for three of those years. And here's the beauty of this challenge. A buddy of his tells him, you got to do this challenge. You got no excuse. You got nowhere to go. You're in your bed. I'll put this on a big screen in front of you here. We'll put it on a laptop. You gotta attend this thing. And Eve thought it was all bs, but his buddy got him. His buddy sat beside him, set it up, made him watch. And the first day he got so excited. I mean, he was so moved that he took this little like, I don't know, like a railing you'd use to hang curtains, like curtain railing. And he just started doing these little push up type things in the bed. Anyway, long story short, in six weeks, he got off the oxygen, which they said he could never do. He stood for the first time. He made it to the bathroom on his own for the first time. After eight weeks, then he started losing weight and feeling stronger. And so finally, I don't remember what number he's at. But he lost £258 so far. But I called him up because, you know, you're part of our community after you do this, it doesn't end in the five days and all these people around the world become your friends. And he's getting all this support from people, and he's showing videos of his improvement. So that's how I knew what was going on with him, because I'm, I'm tuning in, too. So I reached out to him and I said, listen, you lose this much more weight and I will fly you to Palm Beach, Florida, and you come to my live unleash the Power within event. The first one we're doing live in two years, and you be my guest and you walk on the fire. And he got so excited and he went for it, lost £258. But then he calls me up and goes, okay, I did what you said. I'm ready to come. I drove a car for the first time. I'm ready to travel for the first time. But he goes, I fell in love and I'm engaged. Can I bring my girl? He said, of course you can. So they just recently came here to Palm Beach. They walked the fire together, and Nike's inspiring other people. All this came because of a free challenge because, you know, somebody got him in there because there's no reason not to do it. So if you've ever wanted to experience my work, here's your chance. Cost nothing. It's not partially free. It's totally free. And you don't have to go anywhere. And if you want, you can do with your family or a friend. So you got like a partner and they don't have to be in the same room with you, or you could be doing it with a group of people in your office. So I'm doing it January 25th through the 29th. It's coming up quick. January 25th, 2pm Eastern, 11 Pacific. But we have people from 195 countries. So whatever time zone, 2pm Eastern is for you. And I promise you, you do this each day for these five days, you're going to have a massive momentum and you're going to be set up to win no matter what happens in 2022.

And it's. It's breakthrough2022.com is that rightthrough22.com to register again?

There's no cost. You just got to register. Breakthrough2022.com I'm telling you, I've done.

I've, I've been a part of these events the last couple years, I've seen the energy, I've seen the consistency people take on actions on overcoming their fears and insecurities. I've seen the results they get. I've met some of these people as well, because I've been down to Florida with you and seen some people as well. It's incredible what people are creating after just five days of getting the tools, the wisdom, and really the clarity on how to take action moving forward on all these different areas of their Life. So Breakthrough 2022. I'm telling you, sign up right now. It's free. Send it to a few of your friends, get them to sign up with you, have an accountability buddy, and it'll really support you to commit and really take on this year in a big way. So if you've got any insecurities, any fears, or any big goals and dreams that you want to go tackle, I'm telling you, this is the place to be. January 25th through the 29th. Do not miss this breakthrough2022.com and remember something.

Breakthrough 22. It's really about the greatest story of humanity. What is the greatest story? What's the story we all love? It's the comeback story. It's, you know, it's the hero gets knocked to their knees. And listen, Covid's knocked everybody to their knees in some way, right? Business, their life. It's nothing to be embarrassed by. I don't give a damn how good you are. But they get knocked to their knees, and what is it? It's the comeback. It's the rocky. It's that music where all of a sudden you step back up and you take control and rock. That's what 2020 needs to be for you. But you're not going to get there sitting at home having the same perspective you have. You got to exit that world and enter another world filled with people that are ready to go to the next level. And that's what breakthrough2022.com about.

Eye the Tiger. I got that music in my head right now.

Me too.

Final, final thought for you before we go. Real quick. What was the biggest lesson of 2021 for you, and what are you most for 2022? And then we'll wrap it up.

I think the biggest lesson was that I could have even more impact without treating my body like it's a vagabond around the world. And I think the other one that was the greatest gift that God gave was my daughter, right? Like, we've almost given up on it. But I said, if I can really be home, I don't want to have a child where I'm never there and I have to drag them around the earth. But if I can be home a lot more here, let's give it one more try. And so my daughter's the gift that's come out of that. So those are, those are my breakthroughs for 2021.

I love it. Tony, thank you again so much for taking the time for being such an incredible teacher to so many of us and appreciate you being here. And again, breakthrough2022.com make sure you guys go sign up right now. Tony, again, thank you so much. If you enjoyed that interview, then I know you'll love what we have coming up right now. Was there ever a moment where you didn't unconditionally love yourself? And if so, and if so, when did that shift where you stopped that and you started saying, okay, I appreciate myself because of my contribution and my service and who I am? What was that shift?

I don't think it was ever. I just didn't love myself. There were times, obviously, be angry with yourself or frustrated with yourself or think, you know, I'm not doing enough. I mean, I can remember my birthdays, to be honest with you, probably up till my 40th birthday, including my 40th birthday. You know, you have a birthday with a zero on it once you're over at past 30, you know, 35, sometimes five years on it as well. People look at their life differently culturally and I used to think it was bull, but sure enough, I would do it. I remember turning 40 and I was really, really unhappy. I was like, jesus, I've not done enough. I've not helped enough people. I helped tens of millions of people at that point. Already done all over the Earth in 100 plus countries at that point. But it was still kind of stuck in my head. So I would earn the love by over delivering change somebody's life. Like, I don't get it because somebody says, oh, I love you, Tony. I mean, I appreciate that. Or, oh, you're the greatest. It's got to be my standard. My standard's higher than their standard for me, right? So when I get up and someone's going to kill themselves and they're suicidal and boom, turn around. They're no longer not going to kill themselves, but they're transformed. Their life is there. You know, that's when I go, okay, you know, now we've hit the center of what I'm made for. Now you know I deserve to feel this euphoric feeling within myself and a appreciation even then I still know it's God coming through me. I don't have the delusion, it's just me. But I think sometime after 40, I finally saw the stupidity of it. I accumulated enough that I looked at life with fresh eyes. And I can say by the time I turned 60 a year ago, I noticed it was interesting because my birthday, I didn't have an ounce of it. I was just like, you know, how could I at this stage of my life when I've had the privilege of serving so many humans in so many contexts? You know, from turning around, you know, guys gonna kill themselves with ptsd, to helping kids turn around, to getting kids off cocaine or adults, to, you know, helping people build multi billion dollar businesses from nothing. And when I live this long, I can't go by without hearing half a dozen stories a day or dozen stories a day from people telling me how something I did changed their life. So it's not that I'm so smart now, it's just I've stacked it. By the way though, stacking is the way you can do things, things most of us stack, the negative. If you are really angry, it's not usually because of just the moment, it's that it happened again. You know, it's like if you've ever lost it or overreacted to your kid or to a friend or a business or even within yourself, it's because it happened again. We hit this 1, 2, 3, many point and then our nervous system overreacts. But what I've learned is you can stack the good. And for example, if you go into a state of really strong anger for more than five minutes, your immune system system is suppressed between an hour and a half to two hours. That's a physiological fact. But no one had done any study. I started stacking good, like, okay, let me stack a dozen great memories. Feel them, see them, experience them. And I felt this biochemical change that didn't just last a half hour, an hour or 10 minutes, it went on for a day or two. And so I think I've learned to stack the good. So just having experience is not enough. You got to stack the good to be able to appreciate it. But I think just come back to so the main point here, from my perspective, which could be completely just my perspective. So I want to point that out. I think the more you find unconditional love for others, the easier it is to find in yourself. And I think the focus is serving and loving. And that's what will get you to the point where you start doing it. But if you want to speed it up, stack all the good you've done, you'll feel great about yourself.

I already know all the comments that are coming through, thousands of comments telling me, but what about my family that's toxic? What about my partner who's toxic? And how do I love someone unconditionally when they don't respect me, I can't trust them. What about situations like that?

All those reactions are natural, human reactions from ego, because it's all about you, me, me, me. What I'm not getting, what I'm not doing. And that's why you're in pain. And so I'm not telling you. Like, I haven't done this. I've done it, too, in the past, but it's an old pattern. I don't really do anymore. And it used to affect me. Now, not a dominant one. I wouldn't have become who I become. Early in my life, I developed this belief that life is calling, not to give me something. Life is calling for me to deliver things, for me to bring something to life. And I felt the joy that came from not getting, but giving. And I got hooked on that core pattern and then the pattern of learning, so I'd have something to give, which I know. One thing I respect about you, Louis, is that you have that same pattern in you. You're always trying to learn more because underneath it all, you also want to give it. You want it for you, but you want to share it, right? And so those patterns help me not be in what they're not giving. And all this language, language today, people don't understand the power of their language. Like toxic. What the hell are you talking about? You've been reading too much social media and thinking about yourself, or somebody raised you to constantly judge everybody else. We live in a culture now where people, you know, you're eating evil or you're like me. That's basically how it is, right? The whole world, everybody else, is immoral unless they do what you do, think what you think, experience you think. I mean, being a liberal, I was a liberal, right? Being a liberal growing up meant I would fight for your ability to say and believe whatever you want different than me today. Now everybody wants everybody to think the same thing. Otherwise they're evil, or otherwise they could hurt me. Whatever happened to sticks and stones will break your bones, and words will never hurt me. We have this whole thing that words are evil, words are action. It's bull. And all it does is make you incredibly weak as a human being. And you're more than that. We all are more than that. But you know what? Like a kid that's never broken their bones, deathly afraid of breaking the bone. But if you're a kid and you're rough and gumble, you broke multiple bones, they healed. You don't have any fear of it. There's so many kids that have been raised to be safe and secure every moment. Anything that's insecure or unsafe they don't want to be a part of, including language. And what it does is make you incredibly weak and fearful. And that's why there's so many people that are abundant, that are angry all the time because they're angry, because they're not growing. So don't get me wrong. I know some people are not a good influence. I'm not denying that. I'm just saying you're more than somebody's influence. Unless you obsess about it every moment and make them wrong so you can make yourself feel superior morally, psychologically or spiritually. That's bullshit. Stop the pattern. We've all done it. Catch yourself. Because if you want joy, happiness and freedom and an extraordinary life, you will not come from blame. Never. There's no pride that comes from blame. I don't mean fake pride where you make up to feel good. I'm talking about real pride. Pride is something you earn. Like people tell me, oh, I have no self esteem because my parents used to say this, or they'd say that. I'd say, that's such bullshit. I'm not saying it's bull. They didn't say that. I said it's bullshit. That's why you know your self esteem. Self esteem does not come from what people say about you. Self esteem comes from what you experience about yourself. See someone tell your whole life you're a piece of crap. And part of you go, you're full of it. I'm going to show you. Lots of people have done that. They never bought it. Or someone tells you you're beautiful your whole life, you go, I'm not really beautiful. So what people tell you doesn't matter at all. It's what you stack, it's what you assemble, it's what you create. It's the habit of what you put in your head. And today I don't blame you. Because we got a whole culture that's always blaming somebody else for something in their life. But blame is not a strategy for pride. That's why you listen to these blaming people. They're all angry all the time. Listen, if I wanted to blame. I grew up in an environment. I didn't even share it until my mom passed. And even then I didn't share. I grew up in a pretty rough environment. My mom was a beautiful soul, but when she drank alcohol and she mixed it with prescription drugs, it was a different creature and it was a violent creature. And I have a younger brother, five years younger, and a younger sister seven years younger. And my mom would get nuts and I didn't want them to get hurt. So I was 51 in high school. She grabbed me by the hair and smashed me against the wall till I bled. Now, I never shared this, and I'm not denigrating her in any way. I only shared it like four or five years after she died because I was talking to a group of kids in New York City, all without fathers. 80% African American, about 20% Hispanic. Out of the group, roughly no white kids. And I'm talking about. Your biography is not your destiny. And it doesn't matter what you've been through. What you decide now is what's going to control your life. What you decide each day going forward is going to save your life. And I look at them seeing me, I can read their minds. This big, tall, white rich guy is going to tell me, biography doesn't matter. So I said, you know, let me tell you my story. And I told them the whole story, way more than I'm telling you. And every one of them was crying their eyes up. When they're done, I said, look where I am right now. Because I wouldn't assemble the story that my past equals my future. The past only equals your future if you live there. If you're using a rear view mirror to guide yourself, you're gonna crash. So what you've been through is horrific. What you've been through is unjust. I'm on your side, but if you hang on to it, you have no future and you have no one to blame but yourself. And these kids, to their credit, man, they just responded to the challenge because they first cried their eyes out. Hearing all the stories, my mom would think I was lying. And I wasn't lying. She poured liquid soap down my throat till I threw up. And I wasn't lying. So it's not the physical abuse, it's the fact that this is the person you love most that's trying to hurt you that messes with your head. So I could have messed up for life, but I didn't because something inside me says I'm responsible for this life. And part of that is because I started reading when I was 13, 14 biographies of people, the greatest people in history, and reading their lives and finding out, guess what? Their lives were far from perfect. Some of them had worse lives than I had. But when you have no reference and all you do is go online, you talk to other people, making everybody else toxic, and I'm like this. And they didn't do that, then you get to have the shitty life just like those other people. Why are they online so much? Because they don't have a life. Don't be one of those. Free yourself from the chains of your past. I'm not saying your past doesn't matter, but listen. My mother. I tell people this all the time, and it's the truth. If my mother had been the mother I want her to be, the mother she should have been, I would not be the man I'm proud to be today. Because I had to become a practical psychologist way before any schooling. Figure out, when's she going to go on the moon. How do I change her state? How do I protect her from the kids? I mean, it felt life and death, and it was to some extent. So I developed skills at such a young age that when I learned things, I just added to my skills. But I had a core sense of certainty that I could turn anybody around because it started with my mother. And thank God for her. And she encouraged me in so many ways. She did so many great things, and she loved me, even though it didn't look like it at times. But if your parents, if the people around you said all the things you thought they should have, if they had just not been toxic, if they'd encouraged you, you wouldn't have any muscle. And right now you don't have any muscle because you're using that as an excuse. If you're thinking that. And I'm not attacking you, brothers and sisters, I'm calling to you because I know you're more. Otherwise, I just keep my mouth shut. We're just. You've been hypnotized by a culture of weakness. Now, having said that, I'll say one last thing. I know you haven't got other questions, but so important what you asked, yes, there are people that you don't want to hang out with that will not serve you. But then move on. Don't sit there and talk about it constantly. Don't waste your time. And you say, but what if it's family, Tony? Mine was family, too. You learn to grow. You go, there in my life, someone can get your goat. If someone can piss you off, if someone can make you feel less than, that's God coming to you, saying, grow. You need some spiritual growth. There's got to be some change in your perception, your belief, your emotions, your spiritual look of life, so that can't happen anymore. And when it happens, like at 61, I've been through so many of those things, and I like to do things in mass. I took on big challenges so I'd have to grow more. But then life throws them at you, too. When they come, you just go, okay, it's going to have me until I grow. What needs a shift in me so that no longer has an impact. But, you know, Jim Rohn used to say, my original teacher used to say, tony, what happens if I've got a cup of coffee here? And he'd say, what if your worst enemy drops sugar in your coffee? What's going to happen? And I go, well, you'd have sweet coffee. And he goes, what if your best friend, your mother, your father, your brother, your sister, your loved one drops one drop of strychnine? I said, you'd be dead. He goes, that's right. Life is both sugar and strychnine. So watch your coffee. His whole thing was, stand guard of the door of your brain. But some people take that and go, oh, my God, you can kill me. It was a metaphor. These people are not so toxic. They're toxic because you give them energy. So if your mom's crazy and constantly criticizing you and it drives you nuts, just go, that's my mom. That's her way of showing love. And I find a new perspective. And no matter what she does, just stay in a beautiful state and love on her and think, boy, think of all that she cares and feels for, all that she's frustrated in life or all that she's going through that's made her this way. Thank God I don't have to go through this. I can love her. It's like your growth is the only limit to your happiness. If you're not happy, you're not growing in some area. And usually it's a place where you're blaming, you're pointing the finger. I don't care if it's government. Don't get me wrong. People can be unfair, unjust. That's for sure happens. But you can't control that. You can't make it not happen. What you have to do is become stronger than any of it. So you're free. Freedom comes from growth. Freedom does not come from control, because control is an illusion. You can't control everybody. No matter how hard you try, you can't control what they think or feel. And not everybody's going to be fair and just. And you, my dear friends and I, have not always been fair and just, whether we admit it or not. It's just the nature of being a being, a human being. But we can make the largest pattern fair and just and loving and powerful and serving and growing until it becomes the dominant thing inside you. And then you experience life as being great, not your great. Life's great because you're living a great path.

It seems like what I'm seeing and hearing from a lot of people that this past year, everything has fallen apart for them. Their health, their relationships, their finances, their mission or purpose, and their spiritual awareness. Like every area of life has been in breakdown mode for. For some people, not everyone. Some people have had incredible lives and have stepped up to the occasion and broken through on all these things. But I'm seeing a pattern of a lot of people breaking down in many areas. Hypothetical scenario, let's say you could only focus on one thing to get you started. You only had the time and energy to focus on one of these areas. Your health, your relationships are all breaking down. Your finances, you're failing everywhere. Where should people lean into first to kind of create that foundation so that everything else can start to rise as well?

I think before you answer what to do, you gotta answer why you're there. It is not because of the pandemic. I remember when 911 happened and people tell, oh, my God, my life was destroyed because of 9 11. And there were people in the same building who turned their life around, became, grew spiritually, grew closer to their family, made their businesses larger, and the same building burned down. Right. I know in my case, you know, 911 comes, if you can imagine. You know, I'm fortunate to have now more than 80 companies in all these different industries. And obviously, you know, I've done pretty darn well by most people's standards of business and life. But my core mission is what I do for a living. It's why I'm here talking to you right now. It's getting people to be free and alive and have the level of fulfillment that they deserve to have. I know they desire, but I also believe they deserve to have. But to deserve to have it, you got to do certain things, right? And so you're not in the place of being overweight because you lost Your job. So stop the bull. Blame. Blame is not a strategy for a meaningful life. Blame is not a strategy for greatness. So you've got to resolve that, number one. And then your question was, what's the one thing to focus on if you only focus on one? I think it's smart to focus on one thing. Primarily focus on too many can be overwhelming other people. It's good to focus on multiple things. It depends on your personality. So I wouldn't presuppose, but then the answer would be whichever thing you're most desirous of changing, whatever thing is giving you the most pain. So if it's your relationship, I go full force on that. Now, in the world we're in today, you know, you don't usually have the privilege of going, okay, I want to work on just being happy. Well, I can train you to be happy while hell's breaking loose. You can sit in this chair and be totally euphoric. But if you do that, in Western culture, people come and take your furniture, right? So you probably have to work on both your business or financial side and some personal side. I would be working on both. And to me, the way to attack that, if you're not sure which area is to start with the body. And I know you can relate to this, Louis, because you and I both share this in common. It's like I always teach physiology first, as you well know. If you change the body, you'll change the emotions. If you change the emotions, you'll change your decisions. You'll change the quality of your life, because the quality of your life is your emotions. It's not what you get. You have a billion dollars and commit suicide. People have done it right? You can have beautiful relationships and commit suicide. You can have people loving you and be sad all the time. Our pattern of emotion is our home. And you have to upgrade your home. You have to train it. And one way to train it is the emotion comes from the way you move, the way you breathe, the way you speak. So if I said to your listeners, there's a depressed person behind the curtain over here, and I'll give $100,000 to their favorite charity if they had to describe their body, their posture, and they're depressed, you tell me. I'll just use you as the example, what does that person look like?

They're slouched down. They're looking down at their feet. They're not looking upward. Their shoulders are over.

Are they breathing full or shallow?

Do you think they're shallow?

Are they talking fast? Or slow.

They're talking. If they're depressed, they're probably talking fast because they're not calm.

Well, no, that's usually stressed. Depressed is different than stressed.

They're probably talking low volume, slower than.

And all those physical characteristics change your biochemistry towards this feeling of being depressed. And in a depressed state, you won't do it. When I used to be depressed, I don't get it anymore. I just took it out of my life. I even took the language of it out of my life because the words you create create a biochemical response. But when I did that decades ago, because I was like, having those thoughts, like, is there a reason to still be here? That kind of crazy shit in your head. I got out of it by using anger originally. I'd much like. Sometimes if somebody's really sad or depressed, I'll make them angry and be like, what's he doing? He's making him angry. Because anger is much more resourceful than depressed. From anger I can get laughter. I get, you know, taking action. So. And then gradually I got what I didn't need, anger. It was about growth, it was about contribution, was about meaning. So there's like stages to go through. But to answer your question, they should work on both their business side of their life and personal one of each. And in order for either one of those, the work, you need to be in a strong emotional state. And if you start with your body like, you know, I started every morning in my cold water, start every morning with my workout. I started every morning, like feeding my mind, right? So there's certain things you got to do physically, so you're strong enough to remember the truth. Because remember, fear is physical. You feel it, your throat or your gut. So is courage. Courage doesn't mean you're not afraid. It just means you're strong enough, you push through in spite of the fear, right? And courage feels different in the body. So when you go lift, or you go for a sprint or a strong run, or you jump in that freezing water, when you push your mind to go beyond what's comfortable, you feel a strength inside you. And that strength will help you to change your body, your emotions, your relationship, whatever. But then the other thing I say is model someone who's successful. Don't just do this shit by trial and error. Like, find somebody who has what you want, ideally maybe more than one person, two or three, and see what are they doing different than you in their relationship. What do they believe different than you about relationship. If it's their body, what are they doing different. They're not lucky. They're doing things differently. You might be slightly biochemically different, but there's patterns there that you can see. And so instead of learning by trial and error, which can take decades, you may never learn. Jim Rohn taught me, success leaves clues, man. Find someone who's got what you want, study what they do, every aspect of it, and then add yourself to it. And that's the pathway to speed of transformation. So now, like, you know, I've done it. I'm not the only person. There's so many companies that went from worse off than they'd ever been in their history to the best off because they found a way to pivot. But that required a psychological piece of not blame. So maybe it's time for you to think for yourself and model what works instead of just what you're told. That's something to consider for yourself.

Well, there are a lot of sources of brain fog. The most obvious one would be a poor night's sleep.

And sleep, of course, being the most fundamental layer of mental and physical health. You don't sleep well for one night, you're probably okay for two nights, you.

Start to fall apart. Three, four nights, you're really a degraded version of yourself.