Tony Robbins MASTERCLASS On How To CHANGE YOUR LIFE Today! | Lewis Howes

I said, look where I am right.

Now, because I wouldn't assemble the story.

That my past equals my future.

The past only equals your future if you live there. If you're using a rear view mirror to guide yourself, you're gonna crash. So what you've been through is horrific. What you've been through is unjust.

I'm on your side.

But if you hang on to it.

I think you gotta have a dream.

The School of Greatness.

Really?

Yeah. Please welcome Louis Howse. Every time I get the chance to interview you, this is Interview number four now for the show with you. The last three interviews have done over six million views and have changed millions of people's lives. We've done them on your plane, we've been in hotels and now we're virtually here. And every time I get to interview you, I have a ritual. You may not remember, but I've told the story of how I first saw you in person. So I want to tell it really quickly. So I set the context here. About 22 years ago, my dad bought myself and my mom tickets to an event they used to host that was like a big Three-day conference, success. All these great speakers came. Actually, Trump was there, Larry King was there, all these great football coaches. It was in St. Louis, Missouri. And you came down on stage at one point. I'm sitting about halfway back in the arena on the floor level. And you came off stage and walked down. I remember vividly there was a song, Don't Worry, Be Happy, that was playing. I don't even know if you remember this part of your speech.

I do remember that, yes.

You came down, I mean, I'm sure you had this story at all your events, but you came down off this song, it came down and you stopped right next to me. I'm probably 50 yard line back in the arena, so halfway back. You stopped right over me. You don't look at me. You look out, you say something to the crowd. I have no clue what you said, but I remember the energy you possess in that moment. And I was like, I wanna have that confidence one day and that energy. And that moment has stuck with me for the last 22 years. So I wanna acknowledge you for, Constantly being an inspiration to not only myself, but millions of people around the world. From your way of being, the way you open your heart and the way you see other people. So I really appreciate your consistency over the four plus decades of work. And my first question is, what is it like being a father of a daughter?

I'm 61, which I can't even believe I'm 61. But thank God I feel better than I did when I was 30 physically, and I've trained harder, I'm stronger. and psychologically better. So yes, I just have a brand new daughter.

I have five grandkids that are older than my daughter and I've got five kids in total. My oldest is 54 and my youngest now is four weeks tomorrow.

So it's beautiful.

She's the greatest gift and she's the rainbow baby.

We tried so many different ways. So we're just so so grateful to have her and we're keeping her life.

Out of social media. I'm certainly mentioning her but we don't show her pictures and don't talk about her name. Just to give her a little bit.

Of space from what the world is like where everybody's trying to get likes for something. I don't want my daughter to have that habit. So we're gonna give her a little space there. But it's very kind of you to.

Ask and there's no greater gift. Anybody who's a father or a mother.

Out there knows anything else you experience.

In life, nothing comes close. And what's the biggest lesson she's taught.

You in these first few weeks? She's already restructured my life. Like no one else has.

I mean, I sit there and hold her and obsess about her and I think like 40 minutes ago I'm by and I'm just staring into her eyes.

That kind of thing.

So she's put a little balance in me, that's for sure. And also, like you, I'm obsessed with being fit and strong and alive as.

Required for what I do and to do it at the quality I want to do for 44 years plus, and I'm planning to do it for a lot longer.

But when I start thinking about her life, I'm 61. I remember telling my wife, I said.

I'm not having a kid after 50.

I said, I'm not going to be 80 years old with the kids high.

School graduation and so forth.

But now it's like for me to see her at 30 plus, I gotta be 90 plus. So, I'm well on my way to making sure that happened, but it's giving.

Me even greater incentives.

I love that. For all the young people here who are, maybe they're just having their first kid and they're in their late 20s, early 30s, around that range, what are the three habits or skills you wish you would have known then that you wish all of them start to learn at this age in their life?

It's a tough one, 'cause I think at every stage of your life, you look at life differently. It's hard to tell someone in their.

20S how they should be till they've experienced certain things.

There are certain things that just be words. But if I was going to give a couple habits, I'd say the first habit is to not judge yourself too hard because I think that's what young people do a lot and I think.

People do of all ages. When you're 61 years old and you've lived as much life as I have.

I have a little less judgment of.

Myself in this area. It's not make everything life and death because then the kid feels that and it isn't all life and death. I've got to be honest, I thought when my daughter's crying, it's like I hate anybody in pain. You know, I thought it was going to just pierce me and make life so difficult. But fortunately, never once she doesn't cry. She's like, I told my wife, I don't know how this kid came from us, because this kid is so Zen. She cries when she's got to go to the bathroom, when she's got a diaper, she cries when she's hungry, but otherwise she's pretty Zen. But the cry even then is different for me now. So it's not life and death, I'm not hyper-judgmental of it. And then the third thing is decide what's most important that you want for your child, the two or three most important things. For me, It's that child feels so incredibly loved and for me, not yet. But as a child develops, it's developing a sense that life is something that's calling to you to give something, not to get something.

I think if I could give any.

Lesson to my child, it's the lesson of contribution which makes life so meaningful.

The depth of relationship that comes from.

Having such a deep love.

I think those two things are the minimum.

But you've got to decide what do you want for your child? Because, you know, they're their own being. You're going to have your plans how you think they should be and then they're going to be how they are, right? But what you can shape is their value system and not every individual value, but the global values. You know, that life is a balance.

That of course you're going to go.

To extremes, but balance is how the body maintains. It's how life gets in balance. It's like, look for that. It's like, life is not about me, it's about we. That life is calling to you to give something. Don't ask what your country is asking for you, as you know, a Democratic president once said, what are you going to do for your country? We kind of lost that theme not only in our country, but in our parenting. and so I see a lot of kids today that are like, what is my parent doing for me? I can never imagine that thought in my life. My whole thing was like, not one of my, what can I do for.

My parents was my focus.

What can I do? And all those little patterns lead to a life that is more meaningful and fulfilling. But I don't think over-controlling is not.

Going to get you where you want.

To go based on my history, because.

This isn't my first rodeo.

I got four children before that, three.

Of which I adopted.

So I was 24 and had a 17-year-old son instantly, an 11-year-old, a five-year-old and one on the way. So you learn to grow differently. And my former spouse who had those kids, she'd been married twice before me, so they were from different parents. And so I adopted them all and brought them my life. Probably got the greatest growth in my life from that experience of parenting.

And for those that grew up and don't feel like they got the love they wanted or the love they deserved or the love they were supposed to have or whatever, and people haven't learned how to love themselves, whether it be because they didn't get it from their parents or they didn't learn it. How can they learn to love themselves later in their life when they never really felt it?

I think this idea of loving yourself.

As a cultural obsession has no basis in reality. Here's the challenge.

When you're born, what do you gotta.

Do to be loved?

Nothing. 'Cause your mother's on drugs, natural drugs, oxytocin. So you look like a lizard and she thinks you're beautiful. You're fat, you should be loved. all over, you throw up and you're still beautiful, right? For a while, you're unconditionally loved. And thank God we wouldn't have survived otherwise. I love women so much. I have so much respect for women. Even more so going through birth again. No man will ever fully appreciate what a woman does or what a baby demands of mother if you're breastfeeding and the energy and the no sleep. I mean, it's just amazing what women.

Do in our lives.

But the point is, in the beginning, you gotta do nothing. And then the oxytocin wears off. and suddenly you do the same scream or yell, throw your food, now you get yelled at or hit, or the worst one of all, you get ignored. And then fear enters your body. And then the rest of your life you're looking for how can I get this unconditional love? And I remember in the beginning asking myself, because I studied all animals and with the level of dependency they have. And human beings have the longest period of dependency for survival of any creature other than other primates. Whales will be dependent for a year, birds for a few weeks, and boom, get your ass out there and fly.

It's a different world.

We have this long dependency. It's just the nature of how we are. And then I thought to myself, so why don't we just have unconditional love all the time? And I think my answer is because then you never grow or give anything to life. You think everything is about you. And unfortunately, there are a large population of kids that were raised in a generation of parents that were helicopter parents that thought everything should be about the child. And they wonder why they're selfish today or why they don't seem to have great relationships where you got to be with somebody else, you got to put somebody else ahead of you. That's what love is. Love is putting somebody else ahead of yourself. Loving yourself usually comes for most human beings by starting to have a value and just appreciating people not because of what they do, not because of what they have, just because you feel their essence. And it's easy to do that with somebody you love than it's with yourself. But when you start with somebody else and you're not judging and you're truly loving them, then it's much more natural because you're already doing the loving. You're not getting it from somewhere else. Someone may say something, look at you a certain way as a trigger, But all love is self-love. It's bullshit, I don't love myself. If you've ever been someone who felt loved, you loved yourself. They didn't love you, they said something, they did something with their eyes and you used that as a trigger to release love inside of you. But loving yourself every moment all the time is not the secret to success. Having appreciation for yourself is different than constantly loving. Now in the Bible it says, Love thy neighbor as thyself. So I think it's a worthy goal and it's useful, but most people are obsessed with it. and I think get on about living a life that's meaningful and you'll love yourself. As long as you focus on you, you're not gonna love you. Cause the human brain is always looking for what's wrong, what to protect, what needs to be changed, it's a survival instinct. And so it's looking for things to fight or flight or try to freeze or pretend they're not there about yourself. But when you're in a bit of service, when you're trying to serve something more than yourself, that's when the higher part of your consciousness is there. That's when your heart is flowing. And when you're doing that, you're not thinking about you and therefore you feel love. And I can tell you my own experience, I don't have to, no one else has to earn love with me, but my strategy has been I gotta earn my own love. I gotta be worthy of my own love. I don't do that to somebody else.

How do you do that?

Well, by helping millions of people for 44 years, now I'm finally at the stage where, oh yeah, I f*cking love myself. I'm out there, enjoy myself, appreciate it. But along the way, I've always earned it. Now, I don't think that's necessarily healthy or not, but I like what it's done with me. I know people that just think they're God's gift to creation and they don't add anybody to any other human being and they're assholes to be around. They love themselves. So I would challenge that whole belief system. I'd say it's appreciating yourself, it's loving the people around you, and the more you can unconditionally love others, the more you'll unconditionally love yourself. But trying to start with yourself When you're not doing with others, forget it, it'll never happen.

Was there ever a moment where you didn't unconditionally love yourself? And if so, and if so, when did that shift where you stopped that and you started saying, okay, I appreciate myself because of my contribution and my service and who I am.

What was that shift?

I don't think it was ever, I.

Just didn't love myself. There were times obviously, be angry with yourself or frustrated with yourself or think, you know, I'm not doing enough. I mean, I can remember my birthdays, to be honest with you, probably up to my 40th birthday, including my 40th birthday. You know, you have a birthday with.

A zero on it once you're over.

Past 30, you know, 35, sometimes five years on it as well. People look at their life differently culturally. And I used to think it was bull, but sure enough, I would do it. I remember turning 40 and I was really, really unhappy. I was like, Jesus, I've not done enough.

I've not helped enough people.

I know tens of millions of people at that point already done all over the earth in 100 plus countries at that point. but it was still kind of stuck in my head. So I would earn the love by over-delivering, change somebody's life. I don't get it because somebody says, oh, I love you, Tony. I mean, I appreciate that, or, oh, you're the greatest. It's got to be my standard. My standard's higher than their standard for me. So when I get up and someone's going to kill themselves and they're suicidal and boom, turn around and they're no longer not going to kill themselves, but they're transformed. Their life is there. That's when I go, okay, now we've hit the center of what I'm made for. Now I deserve to feel this euphoric feeling within myself and appreciation. I still know it's God coming through me. I don't have the delusion it's just me. But I think sometime after 40, I finally saw the stupidity of it. I accumulated enough that I looked at life with fresh eyes. And I can say by the time I turned 60 a year ago, I noticed it was interesting because my birthday, I didn't have an ounce of it. I was just like, you know, how could I at this stage of my life when I've had the privilege of serving so many humans in so many contexts, you know, from turning around, you know, Guy's gonna kill himself with PTSD to helping kids turn around to getting kids off cocaine or adults to, you know, helping people build multi-billion dollar businesses from nothing. And when I lived this long, I can't go by without hearing half a dozen stories a day or a dozen stories a day from people telling me how something I did changed their life. So it's not that I'm so smart now, it's just I've stacked it. By the way, though, stacking is the way you can do things. Most of us stack the negative. if you are really angry, it's not usually because of just the moment, it's that it happened again. You know, it's like if you've ever lost it or overreacted to your kid or to a friend or a business or even within yourself, it's because it happened again. We hit this one, two, three, many point and then our nervous system overreacts. But what I've learned is you can stack the good. And for example, if you're, if you go into a state of really strong anger for more than five minutes, your immune system is suppressed between an hour and a half to two hours. that's a physiological fact. But no one had done any study, I started stacking good, like, okay, let me stack a dozen great memories, feel them, see them, experience them. And I felt this biochemical change that didn't just last a half hour, an hour, or 10 minutes. It went on for a day or two. And so I think I've learned to stack the good. So just having the experience is not enough. You've got to stack the good to.

Be able to appreciate it.

But I think just come back to the main point here from my perspective, which Could be completely full of it.

It's just my perspective. So I want to point that out.

I think the more you find unconditional love for others, the easier it is.

To find in yourself.

And I think the focus is serving and loving. And that's what will get you to the point where you start doing it. But if you want to speed it up, stack all the good you've done, you'll feel great about yourself.

I already know all the comments that are coming through. Thousands of comments tell me, but what about my family that's toxic? What about my partner who's toxic? And how do I love someone unconditionally when they don't respect me? I can't trust what about situations like that?

All those reactions are natural human reactions from ego. Because it's all about you, me, me, me, what I'm not getting, what I'm not doing, and that's why you're in pain. And so, I'm not telling you like I haven't done this, I've done it.

Too in the past, but it's an.

Old pattern I don't really do anymore. And it used to affect me. Now, not a dominant one, I wouldn't have become who I become. Early in my life, I developed this belief that life is calling not to give me something, life is calling for me to deliver things, for me to bring something to life. And I felt the joy that came from not getting but giving and I got hooked on that core pattern and then the pattern of learning so I'd have something to give, which I know one of the things I respect about you, Louis, is that you have that same pattern in you. You're always trying to learn more because underneath it all, you also want to give it. You want it for you but you.

Want to share it, right?

And so those patterns help me not be in what they're not giving me. And all this language, language today, people don't understand the power of their language, like toxic.

What the hell are you talking about?

You've been reading too much social media and thinking about yourself, or somebody raised you to constantly judge everybody else. We live in a culture now where people, you know, you're evil or you're like me.

That's basically how it is, right?

The whole world, everybody else is immoral unless they do what you do, think what you think, experience what you think. I mean, being a liberal, I was a liberal, right? Being a liberal growing up meant, I would fight for your ability to say and believe whatever you want different than me. Today, now everybody wants everybody to think the same thing, otherwise they're evil or otherwise they could hurt me. Whatever happened to sticks and stones will break your bones, words will never hurt me. We have this whole thing that words are evil, words are action. It's bull and all it does is make you incredibly weak as a human being and you're more than that. We all are more than that.

But you know what?

Like a kid that's never broken their bones, deathly afraid of breaking the bone. But if you're a kid and you're rough and tumble, you broke multiple bones and they heal, you don't have any fear of it. There's so many kids that have been raised to be safe and secure every moment. Anything that's insecure or unsafe they don't want to be a part of, including language. and what it does is make you incredibly weak and fearful. And that's why there's so many people that are abundant that are angry all the time. Because they're angry because they're not growing. So don't get me wrong. I know some people are not a good influence. I'm not denying that. I'm just saying you're more than somebody's influence unless you obsess about it every moment and make them wrong so you can make yourself feel superior morally, psychologically or spiritually. That's bullshit. Stop the pattern. We've all been it. Catch yourself. Because if you want joy, happiness and freedom in an extraordinary life, you will not come from blame.

Never.

There's no pride that comes from blame. I don't mean fake pride where you make up to feel good. I'm talking about real pride. Pride is something you earn. Like people tell me, oh, I have no self-esteem because my parents used to say this or they'd say that. I'd say, that's such bullsh*t. I'm not saying it's bullsh*t they didn't say that. I say it's bullsh*t that's why you don't have self-esteem. Self-esteem does not come from what people say about you. Self-esteem comes from what you experience about yourself. See, someone can tell you your whole life you're a piece of crap and a part of you can go, you,'re full of it. I'm going to show you. Lots of people have done that. They never bought it. Or someone tells you, you're beautiful your whole life. You go, I'm not really beautiful. So what people tell you doesn't matter at all. It's what you stack. It's what you assemble. It's what you create. It's the habit of what you put in your head. And today I don't blame you because we've got a whole culture that's always blaming somebody else for something in their life. But blame is not a strategy for pride. That's why you listen to these blaming people. They're all angry all the time. Listen, if I wanted to blame, I grew up in an environment, I didn't even share it to my mom past, and even then I didn't share. I grew up in a pretty rough environment. My mom was a beautiful soul, but when she drank alcohol and she mixed it with prescription drugs, it was a different creature. And it was a violent creature. And I have a younger brother five years younger and a younger sister seven years younger. and my mom would get nuts, and I didn't want them to get hurt. So I was 5'1 in high school. She'd grab me by the hair and smash me against the wall till I bled. Now, I never shared this, and I'm not denigrating her in any way. I only shared it, like, four or five years after she died, because I was talking to a group of kids in New York City, all without fathers, 80% African-American, about 20% Hispanic out of their group, roughly, No white kids, and I'm talking about your biography is not your destiny. And it doesn't matter what you've been through, what you decide now is what's going to control your life, what you decide each day going forward is going to decide your life. And I look at them seeing me.

I can read their minds.

This big, tall, white, rich guy is going to tell me biography doesn't matter. So I said, you, let me tell you my story.

And I told them the whole story way more than I'm telling you.

And every one of them was crying their eyes out when they're done. I said, look where I am right now. because I wouldn't assemble the story that my past equals my future. The past only equals your future if you live there. If you're using a rear view mirror to guide yourself, you're gonna crash. So what you've been through is horrific. What you've been through is unjust. I'm on your side. But if you hang on to it, you have no future and you have no one to blame but yourself. And these kids, to their credit, man, they just responded to the challenge because they first cried their eyes out hearing all the stories. My mom would think I was lying and I wasn't lying. She poured liquid soap down my throat till I threw up. and I wasn't lying. So it's not the physical abuse, it's the fact that this is the person you love most that's trying to hurt.

You that messes with your head.

So I could have been messed up for life, but I didn't. Because something inside me says, I'm responsible for this life. And part of that's because I started reading when I was 13, 14 biographies of people, the greatest people in history and reading their lives and finding out, guess what? Their lives were far from perfect. Some of them had worse lives than I had. But when you have no reference and all you do is go online, you talk to other people, making everybody else toxic and I'm like this and they didn't do that, then you get to have the sh*t life just like those other people. Why are they online so much? Because they don't have a life.

Right?

Don't be one of those. Free yourself from the chains of your past. I'm not saying your past doesn't matter, but listen, my mother, I tell people this all the time and it's the truth. if my mother had been the mother I wanted to be, the mother she should have been, I would not be the man I'm proud to be today. Because I had to become a practical psychologist way before any schooling, figure out when she's gonna go in the mood, how do I change her state, how do I protect her from the kids?

What do we?

I mean, it was felt life and death, and it was to some extent. So I developed skills at such a young age that when I learned things, I just added to my skills, but I had a core sense of certainty that I could turn anybody around because.

It started with my mother.

And thank God for her. And she encouraged me in so many ways. She did so many great things. And she loved me, even though it didn't look like it at times.

So.

But if your parents, if the people around you said all the things you thought they should have, if they had just not been toxic, if they'd encouraged you, you wouldn't have any muscle. And right now, you don't have any muscle because you're using that as the excuse if you're thinking that. And I'm not. attacking you brothers and sisters. I'm calling to you because I know you're more. Otherwise I just keep my mouth shut. We're just, you've been hypnotized by a culture of weakness. Now having said that, I'll say one last thing.

I know you've got other questions, but.

It'S so important what you've asked. Yes, there are people that you don't want to hang out with that will not serve you. But then move on. Don't sit there and talk about it constantly. Don't waste your time. And you say, but what if it's family, Tony? mine was family too. And you learn to grow. You go there in my life. If someone can get your goat, if someone can piss you off, if someone can make you feel less than, that's God coming to you saying, grow. You need some spiritual growth. There's got to be some change in your perception, your belief, your emotions, your spiritual look of life. So that can't happen anymore. And when it happens, like at 61, I've been through so many of those things. And I like to do things in mass. I took on big challenges so I'd.

Have to grow more.

But then life throws them at you too. When they come, you just go, okay, it's going to have me until I grow. What needs a shift in me so that it no longer has an impact? But you know, Jim Rohn used to say, my original teacher, he used to say, Tony, what happens if I've got.

A cup of coffee here?

And he'd say, what if your worst enemy drops sugar in your coffee? What's going to happen? And I'd go, well, you don't have sweet coffee.

And he goes, what if your best friend, your mother, your father, your brother.

Your sister, your loved one drops one drop of strychnine?

I said, you'd be dead. He goes, that's right.

Life is both sugar and strychnine, so watch your coffee. His whole thing was stand guard at the door of your brain. But some people take it and go, oh my God, you can kill me. It was a metaphor. These people are not so toxic. They're toxic because you give them energy. So if your mom's crazy and constantly criticizing you and it drives you nuts, just go, that's my mom. That's her way of showing love. And I find a new perspective and no matter what she does, just stay in a beautiful state and love on her and think, boy, think of all that she cares and feels for, all that she's frustrated in life, all that she she's going through that's made her this way. Thank God I don't have to go through this.

I can love her.

It's like your growth is the only limit to your happiness. If you're not happy, you're not growing in some area. And usually it's a place where you're blaming, you're pointing the finger. I don't care if it's government, don't get me wrong, people can be unfair, unjust, that's for sure happens. But you can't control that. You can't make it not happen. What you have to do is become stronger than any of it so you're free. Freedom comes from growth. Freedom does not come from control. Because control is an illusion. You can't control everybody.

No matter how hard you try, you.

Can'T control what they think or feel. And not everybody's going to be fair and just. And you, my dear friends, and I have not always been fair and just. Whether we admit it or not, it's just the nature of being a being, a human being. But we can make the largest pattern fair and just and loving and powerful.

And serving and growing.

Until it becomes the dominant thing inside you. And then you experience life as being great, not your great. Life's great because you're living a great path.

It seems like what I'm seeing and hearing from a lot of people that this past year everything has fallen apart for them. Their health, their relationships, their finances, their mission or purpose and these, their spiritual awareness, like every area of life has been in breakdown mode for some people. Not everyone, some people have had incredible lives and have stepped up to the occasion and broken through on all these things. but I'm seeing a pattern of a lot of people breaking down in many areas. Hypothetical scenario, let's say you could only focus on one thing to get you started. You only have the time and energy to focus on one of these areas. Your health, your relationships are all breaking down, your finances are failing everywhere. Where should people lean into first to kind of create that foundation so that everything else can start to rise as well?

I think before you answer what to.

Do, you're going to answer why you're there.

It is not because of the pandemic.

I remember when 9/11 happened and people tell, oh my God, my life was.

Destroyed because of 9/11. And there were people in the same building who turned their life around, grew spiritually closer to their family, made their businesses larger, and the same building burned down. I know in my case, 9/11 comes, if you can imagine, I'm fortunate to have now more than 80 companies in all these different industries. Obviously, you know, I've done pretty darn well by most people's standards of business and life. But my core mission is what I do for a living. It's why I'm here talking to you right now. It's getting people to be free and alive and have the level of fulfillment that they deserve to have. I know they desire, but I also believe they deserve to have it. To deserve to have it, you got to do certain things, right?

And so you're not in the place.

Of being overweight because you lost your job. So stop the bullsh*t blame. Blame is not a strategy for a meaningful life. Blame is not a strategy for greatness. So you've got to resolve that number one. And then your question was, what's the one thing to focus on if you can only focus on one? I think it's smart to focus on one thing primarily. Focus on too many can be overwhelming. Other people, it's good to focus on multiple things. It depends on your personality. So I wouldn't presuppose. But then the answer would be whichever thing you're most desirous of changing. Whatever thing is giving you the most pain. So if it's your relationship, I go full force on that. Now in the world we're in today, You know, you don't usually have the privilege of going, okay, I want to.

Work on just being happy.

Well, I can train you to be happy while hell's breaking loose. You can sit in this chair and be totally euphoric. But if you do that in a Western culture, people come and take your furniture, right? So you probably have to work on both your business or financial side and some personal side. I would be working on both. And to me, the way to attack that, if you're not sure which area.

Is to start with the body.

And I know you can relate to this Louis, because you and I both share this in common. It's like, I always teach physiology first, as you well know. If you change the body, you'll change the emotions. If you change the emotions, you'll change your decisions, you'll change the quality of your life. Because the quality of life is your emotions. It's not what you're getting, you have a billion dollars and commit suicide. People have done it, right? You can have beautiful relationships and commit suicide.

You can have people loving you and.

Be sad all the time. Our pattern of emotion is our home and you have to upgrade your home. You have to train it and one way to train it is the emotion comes from the way you move, the way you breathe, the way you speak. So if I said to your listeners, there's a depressed person behind the curtain over here and I'll give $100,000 to their favorite charity if they had to describe their body, their posture and they're depressed, you tell me. I'll just use you as the example. What does that person look like?

They're slouched down, they're looking down at their feet, they're not looking upward, their.

Shoulders are over, they're... Are they breathing full or shallow, do you think?

They're shallow. Are they talking fast or slow?

They're talking... If they're depressed, they're probably talking fast.

Because they're not calm. Well, no, that's usually stressed.

Depressed is different than stressed. They're probably talking low volume, slower than...

And all those physical characteristics change your biochemistry towards this feeling of being depressed, and in a depressed state, you won't do anything When I used to be depressed, I don't get it anymore, I.

Just took it out of my life.

I even took the language of it out of my life. Because the words you create create a biochemical response. But when I did that decades ago.

Because I was like having those thoughts.

Like, is there a reason to still be here?

That kind of crazy in your head.

I got out of it by using anger originally. I'd much like sometimes if somebody's really sad or depressed, I'll make them angry and be like, what's he doing? He's making me angry. Because anger is much more resourceful than depressed. From anger, I can get you to laugh I can get, you know, taking action. So, and then gradually I got what I didn't need anger.

It was about growth.

It was about contribution. It was about meaning. So there's like stages to go through. But to answer your question, they should work on both their business side of their life and personal, one of each. And in order for either one of those to work, you need to be in a strong emotional state. And if you start with your body, like, you know, I start every morning in my cold water, start every morning with my workout. I started every morning on feeding my mind, right? So there's certain things you got to do physically. so you're strong enough to remember the truth. Because remember, fear is physical. You feel it in your throat or your gut. So it's courage. Courage doesn't mean you're not afraid. It just means you're strong enough you push through in spite of the fear, right? And courage feels different in the body. So when you go lift or you go for a sprint or a strong run or you jump in that freezing water, when you push your mind to go beyond what's comfortable, you feel a.

Strength inside you and that strength will.

Help you to change your body, your emotions, your relationships, whatever. But then the other thing I want to say is model someone who's successful. Don't just do this shit by trial and error. Like find somebody who has what you want, ideally maybe more than one person, two or three, and see what are they doing different than you in their relationship? What do they believe different than you about relationship? If it's their body, what are they doing different? They're not lucky. They're doing things differently. You might be slightly biochemically different, but there's patterns there that you can see. And so instead of learning by trial and error, which can take decades you may never learn, Jim Rohn taught me success leaves clues, man. Find someone who's got what you want, study what they do, every aspect of it, and then add yourself to it. And that's the pathway to speed of transformation. So now, like, you know, I've done it. I'm not the only person. There's so many companies that went from worse off than they'd ever been in their history to the best off because they found a way to pivot. But that required a psychological piece of not blame. So maybe it's time for you to think for yourself and model what works instead of just what you're told. That's something to consider for yourself.

It's one of the reasons you've got millions of people that model after you just like myself in many areas of my life. I've got three final questions. Is that okay to ask three final questions? Okay. I went long on that. I want to be respectful of your time since we're at the top of the hour. I just want to make sure I'm good. you mentioned, I had the opportunity to go to Fiji with you and Dean Graziosi and a group of people about a year and a half ago. And you mentioned that winter was coming. This was in 2019, I guess, or yeah, right before 2020. And you mentioned winter is coming. I don't know how, where, what, what type of crisis is happening, but something's gonna happen. It may be in six months, it may be in the next few years, but something is happening. And from people that went through 9/11 to the housing crisis of 2008-2009 to then 2020, what would you say if people want to prepare themselves to create more financial abundance over the next 10 years? With winter coming maybe again sooner than later, what should people be focusing on in order to earn more and invest more? so that they're not overwhelmed financially with the next winter.

Well, first of all, I want to acknowledge that every generation, there's a book.

Everyone should read, it's called the Fourth Turning.

It's not a great read, I'll be.

Honest with you in advance. I read it 25 years ago.

One of the most seminal books I've.

Ever read because what it will show.

You is that every generation goes through different stages. A winter time, a really, really rough time. A springtime, like after the rough times.

We usually see this easy growth.

A summer where, kind of, I'm working hard, doesn't seem the reward. And then a fall where all the rewards show up in a major level. But those seasons, which may be 10-20 years, are a way of thinking. For some people, those seasons happen in their youth, some midlife, some later, because there's a cycle of history. It's a thousand years of history you can study. It's fascinating. I'm not going to try to explain it to you right now, but if you want perspective, it's there. The generation you're speaking of, the millennial generation, a very special generation, I don't mean special like you're so special, special because they have a unique place in human history. They've experienced certain shocks at a certain time. They are an archetype of one of the four seasons of life. The last one is called the Great Generation. Think about this. If you were born in the year, say, 1900, 1901, 1902, something like that, when you're coming of age, 20 years old, when you want to think about your life and where it's going and all that stuff, right, let's say 1910, excuse me, when you're coming of age, if you're born in 1910, the stock market crashes. The biggest depression in human history, at least that we're aware of, modern history, happens. You know, 50% of people seem to be losing their jobs. There seems to be no hope whatsoever. Right as you're coming to your early prime, we're gonna make things happen. Oh, so that's 1929. What happens a decade later when you're about to turn 30? Another seminal time in your life.

World War II breaks out.

Holy sh*t, the whole world likes it's gonna get it over. We're talking about World War II. all over the earth, and it looks like Hitler's gonna win, and that we're gonna have Nazism everywhere, and countries are dropping like flies, and the economy's going through the floor, and you just turned 30. But guess what? At 40, the greatest bull market in the history of the world began for that generation. But they were so tested and so strong from everything they'd been through, but then they were tested by their own kids. who didn't have to go through that suffering, who thought life should be easy for them and said, look at you, you're not balanced, you aren't fair to women, and they weren't, but they were busy fighting wars to get to the point where you'd have time to do that. It's like people say, art for the sake of art's sake is for the well-fed. It's like these people have a different... It's not like challenges disappear, but they're called the great generation because they found their way through those things because it was a generation that was not taught to look for excuses. I think the millennial generation is the next great generation if they play their cards right. And I think there's enough great people in that generation to help lead a new direction for it.

And I think technology allows them to.

Connect in new ways, but technology unfortunately also pits them against other people because if you've seen the social dilemma, you know there are people manipulating your brain.

And your biochemistry and your dopamine right now.

But I think they'll figure that out. I think they really will. Now, the answer to your question, I want to give that context because without the context, all this is about survival or doing okay for yourself. And I think you're not going to.

Feel a great life just trying to take care of yourself.

Don't get me wrong. It's like if you know the Indian tradition in India, they teach these four aims of life. The first aim is Artha, A-R-T-H-A. And what that means is prosperity and security. It's important to take care of that because when that prosperity and security is there, it's not like that's not spiritual. Taking care of yourself and your family is part of life. And so you need to do that. And then the next level of development, the next aim of life is K-A-M-A, and that means pleasure. And it's good to find pleasure. Like if you found good work that serves more than yourself, you're gonna prosper. But then do you enjoy it? And do you enjoy your life? And do you appreciate things? And it's like, Finding that appreciation, it isn't just sensuality or sexuality, it's music, it's art, it's family, it's all these things. It's the history of your own country.

And finding the good.

And then the third level for that most people have heard of is Dharma, which is your purpose or your truth. But notice, you really don't have a real clear Dharma in most people unless they got some level of prosperity, security, some level of enjoyment of life, but they get to the point of thinking broader. Now some people earlier on are trying to find their purpose. What's my purpose? What's my purpose? I gotta find my ultimate purpose. Who said there's one frickin purpose? Where did you get that delusion? And why does it have to be so huge? I know like when I was a young kid, I had this purpose statement. The purpose of my life is to be a passionate, loving, incredible creation of what God shows is possible by serving all its humanity and lifting them. I mean, it went on and on and on. Now, like, what's my purpose? How can I help? I mean, serving is what my purpose is. I don't need all this bullshit. and that means I can do it when I introduce, when I say hello to the mailman, I can do it in front of 50,000 people, I can do it with my child, right? And there's lots of different purposes as.

You go through your life.

But most people trying to get back, they haven't even figured out what the hell they're gonna do, they haven't even figured out how to enjoy their life. Your purpose will unfold if you do the right thing. So now to answer your question precisely and specifically in short order, you need to put yourself in a position if you're gonna be successful is to have ideally your own business or a business where the more value you add, the more you earn. You can work for someone else and do that if you have stock options. You could do that if you've got bonuses. But to me, autonomy, if you really want an extraordinary life, I believe this.

Is just personal preference.

This is my opinion. This isn't the truth for everyone. Is if you can find yourself in a place where the more value you add, the more you can grow mentally, emotionally, spiritually and financially, then you can write your own ticket, right? And so owning your own business to me is one of the ways to do that or partnering with somebody in a business or working for somebody but where they treat you as a partner, you get a piece of the business. So you don't have to be only on your own. But if you're gonna grow, you need to make whatever business your part, even if you work for somebody else, you gotta think like an owner. Because if you do, you'll become one. And if you think like an owner and you're gonna succeed, then you gotta model the people that are successful. It's like why we put this challenge together. It's not just me. We've got about a dozen of the best people in the world, all different ways. Because they're like, oh, Tony can do this, but what about, here's Jenna Kutcher with her camera and what she's doing, making a couple million dollars a year, being a mom, enjoying her life, right? So they get to meet them all and not just be inspired, but this is specifically how to do it. Because you know, and I know, there's you get to have that I didn't have 20 years ago or even 15 or five years ago, some of it, but certainly not 30 years ago. It cost a fortune to do stuff. Everything's for free now. You put up a podcast and reach millions of people. That was impossible in the stage of my life. So there are ways to leapfrog because of technology that you want to take advantage of. So you want to model somebody that's incredible, but then what's going to make that business work or not is two things. Do you understand who your ideal client is? You can't be a client to everybody.

You got to know who's my ideal.

You can help everybody, but who's your ideal client? Who's the client's going to stay with you when the economy gets bad? Because as you said, Winter always comes. I was saying winter came in because I knew we'd had a bull market so long that we're going to have.

To have a bear market.

We usually have one every five years. We have this unbelievable long period of time without having one and I wanted people prepared. Because when things go down is your greatest opportunity. Right now, your greatest second opportunity in your life is happening because we're coming out of winter and we're not fully in springtime yet although the economy is heating up. And it's artificially heating up. They're going to pour so much money into it that you can be an idiot and do well in this economy. But you want to take advantage of this time because when it goes back again, because it will, we can't just keep printing dollars forever or putting ones and zeros in computers without inflation. We're already starting to see it. And most of you don't know what inflation is. I remember buying my first house at 18 years old, a triplex at 18% interest. It's hard to make money at 18% interest.

Yeah. Now you got like two and a.

Half for people right now. It's different universes. So you got to be prepared for whatever is coming and the way you do that is know who your ideal customer is, who you can add value to, fall in love with them, what do they need, what do they want, what do they hate, and not fall in love with your product, fall in love with them so you can keep meeting their needs and then come up with an irresistible offer. If you have those two things, you're going to win. I mean, I remember I saw there's a great little series out right now on, I think it's the History Channel. They've done these series in the past.

You may have seen them, Louis.

Like the, you know, the people that shaped America and they show like all the, you know, the guys that built standard oil, like the Rockefellers and so forth. They're doing one right now on the food that built America. And it's fascinating. And so one of those stories was about the pizza business, and I won't.

Run it for you, but one of.

Those was such a perfect example was Domino's Pizza. He was going bankrupt. He couldn't figure out what the hell to do. He couldn't make any money no matter what. And then one day he had a problem delivering something and somebody was pissed off and they go, I will not accept this pizza if it takes more than 30 minutes. And he was, and he heard it. And then he tried on every call, Domino's Pizza, we deliver within 30 minutes or your pizza is free. He made an irascible offer, not just that we'll deliver by 30 minutes, but I will be penalized, you will get it for free if you don't. That offer turned Domino's from a losing company to one of the most dominant pizza companies in the history of the world. Wow. Having an irresistible offer and knowing who his client was, he went for kids in college. He targeted them because they ate more pizza and you could deliver more to the same dorm with more people. So he knew his ideal clients, he knew who else he wanted to serve. He came up with the irresistible offer, done deal, unbelievable business.

And this is one of the things you guys are teaching in the Own youn Future Challenge, which if I want everyone listening or watching to sign up for this, it's completely free. You can go to lewishouse.com/future. It'll take you right there. You guys are doing this week-long challenge. You and our friend Dean Graziosi talking about how to build and scale an irresistible offer, talking about how to build a business, a side hustle, whatever it is, using your knowledge and information to build something to earn something on the side that eventually you could take it.

What's unique about this challenge, and it's not just me, as you said, it's a bunch of people, is we're gonna use technology each step of the way each day so you start to build a business that you could start to launch at the end because this technology can do in minutes what used to take months or years and or if you already have a business, how to grow it dynamically. So it's not just going to be sitting back with philosophy. We're going to be calling you. There's no charge for the program. The charge is you've got to take uncomfortable action each day using a little bit of technology we'll show you how.

To do and then you're going to have something really at the end, not just inspiration. I love it. Yeah, I want everyone to sign up for this. It's completely free. LewisHowes.com/Future. There's going to be a lot of great content. A lot of my mutual friends are going to be on there teaching, sharing some of their greatest strategies about how they built and scaled their businesses and brands. So make sure you sign up for that. Final two questions. This is a question I've asked you before. You probably don't remember. I think the last time I interviewed you was four or five years ago. But it's called the Three Truths. And I like to make it spin this question. It's a hypothetical scenario. Imagine it's your last day on earth many years away. You get to accomplish and live as long as you want to live, but eventually you got to turn the lights off. And for whatever reason, Tony, you've got to take all of your work with you. Your written words, your audio, the video, no one has access to your content anymore. They steal the books out of people's homes and it goes with you to the next place, hypothetically. But you get to leave behind three things you know to be true, the three lessons you would share with the world. And this is all we would have from your information. What would you say are those three lessons that you would share with your daughter or to the world if this is all we would have to remember you by?

Life is not about me. Life is about we. The quality of life is the quality of relationships and relationships are grown by giving, not by demanding, not by judging. I'd say secondly, love is the answer with strength. You have to have love and strength together. Those two resources, anything can be transformed, anything can be accomplished because with love and strength, have a larger vision. If it's true love, I don't want to talk about love in a sense.

Of just trying to get something.

I mean true love, which is about how can I give something, but still having strength also, so you're not run over.

And I'd say constant never-ending learning will.

Make life not only interesting, but the.

Meaningfulness will come because you'll have something to give and that'll tie back to.

The first piece that I described. So, I mean, there's so much it's hard to reduce to three things, but off the top of my head, those would be my first three.

I love those. And Dean Graziosi said one of the greatest lessons you've taught him is about love and relationships. And he said that you told him, you feel love when you give it rather than when you receive it. And also in relationship, never keep score. And so I just wanted to mention that as something that has been impactful for him and so many of your friends that you've taught this to, especially myself in relationships and understanding relationships. Before I ask the final question, I want to acknowledge you, Tony, as I've done many times before, and I will continue to do for as long as you're alive, for constantly being a symbol of inspiration to so many people, for constantly showing up. You don't have to do this stuff anymore. You've done a million times over the work of helping so many people. And the ability, the amount of growth that you continue to have in wanting to serve at a higher level continues to inspire me. like you'll never know. And so I want to acknowledge you for leading the way, for constantly serving so many people that will never know that you touched their lives directly because you're doing it not for them to know you're doing it. On every area of life, I really appreciate who you are as a human. And my final question is what is your definition of greatness?

I think greatness is service. I think great service is a great life. I think as you live your life. And I'm fortunate enough to uncover this earlier in my life, not because I'm such a good person, I think just because I love people and because I've been attracted really brilliant people 20, 30 years my senior who had been through all the patterns.

In the end, it's not what you.

Get that's going to make you happy. It's who you become and it's who you've been able to touch. And so I think greatness is service. I think greatness is finding the way to do more for others than anybody else. because that'll also come back to you in spades from the standpoint of your own sense of internal pride, not external.

But your own sense like people could.

Take away everything I have, they can't take away who I've become as a man by my service and by my growth.

So I think purpose and having a.

Sense of progress are the two things that create a great life. If you've got a higher purpose than yourself, that's going to give you the motivation and the energy to drive when everybody else is exhausted and you're exhausted.

And if you're making progress, you'll feel.

The rewards that come from that. I think those two are twin powers.

In a great life.

Tony Robbins, thanks for all your service and generosity, my friend. I'm so grateful and thanks for being here.

Thank you. It was great to see you again.

So just finished up this amazing interview with Tony Robbins and I was reflecting on some of the things he talked about. I've had the chance to be around him a few different times. We've had three previous interviews that were all incredible. I think got over six million views on those. I've spent some intimate time in some mastermind meetings with him. I've been to his live events. I've had the opportunity to be around him a few times. I have a lot of mutual friends who are very close to Tony. And I just wanted to share some of my big takeaways from this interview and also what I've learned from him since I've really been aware of him as a kid growing up. And one of the things that he mentioned here was a lot of people struggle, especially after a breakdown in life, whether it be this pandemic or some type of breakdown. And lots of things have broken down. Your finances, your relationships, your health, your purpose, your mission, you're not clear on what you want to do next. He really said, you know, focus on these different areas, but make sure your body is strong. When your body's strong, then you have the energy, the presence, the power to make better decisions, to have the focus to work on those relationships, to give the attention and the creativity to launch your business. all these things stem from the foundation of your body. And I can speak from personal experience that when my body is really out of shape and I'm not moving and I'm not working out and I'm eating horrible for weeks or months on end, and it's really, I've just kind of lost my physical body in that sense. I feel less. I feel like I don't believe in myself as much. I feel less confident. I don't feel as good in my relationships. I don't feel as confident in business. and it really stems from having the energy, the clarity, the focus, and make sure you put the attention on taking care of your body. Make sure the nutrition, the sleep, the physical activity, you are making this a priority. You're putting this in your calendar, scheduling it first on a daily basis. What are you going to do to set yourself up to win? He talked about making sure you set yourself up to win by finding the right model of people on how they do it. There are a lot of busy people out there who've got kids and families and businesses and responsibilities, who are also able to take care of their physical body and their health. So modeling those individuals. I think it's really important to find a personal advisory board. Tony talked about this towards the end where he's always finding his mentors who are 20 years senior, right? He's finding people who've been there, done that so he can accelerate that time and that learning curve. Something I've learned from him that I think is extremely important is to find the model of success he mentioned finding three people. So why not find your own personal advisory board of individuals who have the health or the physical body and the physical activity and the nutritional side of their life figured out. Find people who have the financial side figured out. I'm doing this on a consistent basis. I've got more than three people in every area. I've got coaches and therapists and billionaire friends and physical specimens that I'm always trying to learn from. And then he said, focusing on one thing at first, like focus on this, get it under control so you have the energy to do more things. I think when you schedule that priority, the thing that's the biggest pain right now and scheduling it on a daily basis, this becomes a non-negotiable for you. That's when you can really start to see results and changes when you're taking that consistent action. So that was one thing I took away. Number two is stacking positives. you think about it, we've got neuroscientists and psychologists who've come on the School of Greatness, say that there's what, 50,000 or 80,000 thoughts a day that a human being has on average, and who knows what the actual statistic is. But most people will agree in the science world that our thoughts are on repeat. So if we're having negative thoughts consistently and we're having them on repeat consistently, then we're stacking negative thoughts. And this has been used to protect us and to make sure we're looking out for what's harmful and things that are bad and all the things we can fix. But he said stacking the positives. And he said he removes the language of depression from him. He's like, I'm not going to get depressed. At first it was depression. Then I said, no, I'm just going to get angry because anger will give me energy. It'll give me something to at least work towards and take action on. Maybe it's not the best action, but it's better than the depressed action. which is nothing. So stacking the positives and rewarding yourself, oh, I had lots of great thoughts today. I had lots of good memories today. I didn't focus on the negative thoughts and the negative memories. I'm stacking the positive. You may piss people off by just being a positive human being. And I'm not saying suppress your feelings and hurt and pain. You can still feel and work through those, but then get back to a positive state. You know, the world makes room for passionate positive people. You don't want to be around negative people with a bad attitude that don't take action. That doesn't inspire you in an intimate relationship, a partnership in your business, hiring someone for your team. That doesn't inspire you. The world makes room for positive, passionate people. And so figuring out how can I make it a game in my mind where I'm training myself to stack positivity. stack positive good thoughts, quality thoughts, not negative suffering thoughts. That was another thing that I really love, stacking positivity. And again, you may piss people off because they're not in the mood and they're negative and you're positive. But I'd rather you piss people off for being positive than piss people off for being negative. The next thing that I said that he's talked about, which I thought was really fascinating is loving others is when you'll truly love yourself. And really the key to success is to to be in service and to learn how to love and contribute to other people. And I love this perspective because I think a lot of people are in this mode of wanting and I need someone else to love me and I need my family to love me and see me for who I am and I need my partner to love me the way I want to be loved. And I'm all for the five love languages and actually just learning how to communicate and give and receive love. But I like his perspective in saying, you know what? It shouldn't always be about me, me, me and what I need, but how can I serve? How can I love others unconditionally? Which is really hard when someone isn't receptive or when someone's defensive or when someone doesn't receive your love. But that's when you can really elevate yourself to another level, is when you can learn to love someone else and not need it in return, but in return you love yourself because of how you're giving love to other people. Just that perspective shift. I thought was interesting. I'm also a big fan of just learning to accept yourself. Accept yourself through your past, your pain, your hurt, your shame, the things you've done to hurt other people, all that stuff. Accept yourself and then make a commitment moving forward on how you're going to show up differently to create a new positive attitude for yourself, a new energy, a new contract with yourself in the world. So love yourself by loving other people. I love that. And he said, Loving yourself is not the secret, but really loving other people. He also mentioned we, not me, as one of his truths. And I'm a big fan that we're all in this together, that you're in this together with the world, but also it's we, not me, in an intimate partnership. It's we, not me, in a business. It's we, not me, in a team, a sports setting. it's we not me and everything and friendships. It needs to be about we not me. And for most of my life, I'll admit it, I was about what can I do for me? How can I gain a leg up? How can I look better than others? How can I be the winner and someone else be the loser in every context of life? And that didn't work. It made me have a surface level of fake confidence. It made me feel a little bit better for a moment, but then at the end of the day, just more and more suffering, less fulfillment, and really less confidence when I was coming from that place. But when you are in a position to say, you know what? I'm here to shine a light on you. I'm here to lift you up. I want to be of service to you. It'll always come back. It may not come back directly in that moment, but it'll always come back around when you're focused on how can I serve, how can I show up to help someone else succeed, how can we all win together? how can we all grow and improve together? And that's really a key in my mind, is coming from a place of we, not me. And it's really hard when you lack. It's really hard when you're suffering, you're struggling, you don't have any money, you don't have the love you want, all those things. When you're coming from that place of I don't have, then you are going to be in a much more miserable environment because you're keeping company that is not positive and it's focused on me. not on how can I serve, not how I can contribute, how I can give, how can lift others up. I think it was Zig Ziglar that said, if you want to accomplish all your goals in your life, help everyone else accomplish their goals. You know, we learn through other models of success that those who help the most people in a business become billionaires typically. The ones that have the biggest followings, of users on apps or customers and they are in service to those customers. They help them solve the biggest pain point or problem. Those are the ones that are rewarded financially because they were in service for others, not about themselves. And then the last thing that he mentioned which was building an irresistible offer. I think when you can create an irresistible offer in your business or in your personal life, that you show up in such a way that is so irresistible that you get the partner you want of your dreams, that you get the friends you want of your dreams, that you attract the team members, the colleagues, all these people are attracted to you like a magnet because you are irresistible and you're creating an irresistible offer to not be around you, the people that have to be around you because you're a magnet and you're attracting them. And again, you become irresistible when you are able to go beyond your pain, go beyond your fears, your doubts, your insecurities, your lack of confidence, confidence, you become irresistible to everyone around you. You become a magnet of opportunities, of love, of attraction, of all these things by your energy, your way of being, of how you show up for other people. You're not a magnet. You're not irresistible when you are a taker, when you are negative, when you're blaming, when you're doing all these other things. You're not irresistible. So create an irresistible offer in your business. and you'll be financially abundant. Become irresistible in your life and you'll create abundance in your life. You'll feel love, support, guidance, friendship, connection that you've never felt before when you show up being irresistible. And that takes working on yourself. That takes developing skills. That takes overcoming your challenges, your pain. That takes being vulnerable. It takes being uncomfortable in so many different ways. It takes taking care of your body, which we talked about in the beginning. It takes a lot of different things, but greatness doesn't come to everyone who just shows up and says, I'm negative, give me everything. I deserve it. Greatness comes to those who are willing to look within and see all the different pain and shame and frustration that they might feel, and they learn to use that pain and to heal it, embrace it, overcome it, and really be of service for other people in the gifts and talents that they develop within themselves. That's what this is all about. I've learned a lot of lessons from Tony Robbins over the years. This is just some reflection right after this interview that I wanted to share with you. We've got so many other big lessons that we've learned from Tony and some of our previous three interviews. And what I want to do is share some of those best moments with you right now because these moments blew me away when I was sitting across from Tony and he shared these stories and these insights. So, I want you to watch these right now. And before we get into it, make sure you check out the challenge, the Own youn Future challenge. If you go to lewishouse.com/future, you can sign up for free you can get opted in to go through this experience and learn about how to create an irresistible offer, how to build and scale your own business by Tony Robbins, Dean Graziosi, and many other my friends who are top business leaders and digital marketers in the world. So make sure you go to lewishouse.com/future right now, sign up, it's absolutely free. I want you to get this information. And now let's dive in to some of the most mind-blowing moments with Tony Robbins. I feel like I've done a pretty good job of earning a lot of money over the last few years.

Yes.

Before, I never knew how to make money.

Yeah.

I was an athlete. I was trying to make it to the NFL. That was my only focus was playing sports. I never learned about how to make money.

Yeah.

So when I was able to dive into this and really learn the ins and outs of making money, but actually allowing money to make money for you.

Exactly. Make money while you sleep.

Make money while you sleep. It was so interesting and I feel like I've done a good job of making money over the years but there's.

So much more in here that I'm like fascinated by. It's interesting because I did the same thing. You know, I come from a very poor background and we had no money for food at times, quite literally. And it was rough. So I want to make sure money wasn't an issue for my future family. So I figured how to make money and I figured when I was, I don't know, 23, I figured how to make a million dollars a year. I went from 38,000 to a million. And you don't do that by some new strategy. It was a psychological shift as well as a strategy shift. But then I made the same amount of money for seven straight years, even though I built a dozen more companies. I have more people than ever. But it was like unconsciously, you want more than a million dollars? What are you? You know, you greedy? And I was actually staying, where was I? I was in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. I arrived at 2 o'clock in the morning on my birthday. I didn't have a private plane, so I had to go like four different connections from where I was. And I get in this place, and it's a horrible place. And I call my kids, and I'm talking to this woman on the phone named Maria, who used to run my house and take care of my kids. I said, you know, Maria, I'm sorry it's so late, but I want to talk to my kids. Oh, happy birthday. She gives me this whole thing. And then she walks me to Mr. Robbins, you know. She says, I never dreamed I'd live in a castle, because I have a place called the Robbins Castle. And I just want to thank you. I feel like a princess. She goes, last night I was sitting in a Jacuzzi looking out at the water. and thinking how lucky I am, and I'm in the Ramada Inn in those days. Looking at this moose head going, this woman is really rich. So I finally decided, listen, if I can make a, you know, 38,000 a million, it's not about money. It's like growth. So I want to make three million, but I want to make more of it while I sleep. But then I really began to realize it doesn't matter how much money you make. It's really your capacity to take your creativity and stop trading time for money. It's the worst trade in the world. Everybody's a financial trader. They don't realize they're trader. They're trading time and you can't get more time. So this book is how to take anybody, an average person, a millennial just getting out of college with a bunch of debt and saying, how do I really make this work? Or a baby boomer saying, how do I still retire? And the way I did it was I said, I want to interview 50 of the most brilliant financial people in the world. Most people don't know that I've been working with Paul Tudor Jones, one of the top 10 financial traders in history for 21 straight years. And he hasn't lost money in one year in 21 years. We made money in the tech blow up that happened in 2000 and 911. In 2008, when the market was down 51% from top to bottom, he made 28% positive. Incredible. So every day, literally, he emails me, I monitor him, I come see him, I work with him, and he pays me seven figures a year to be able to do this. And I've been able to continually help him go to the next level. But quite frankly, I've learned more from him, I think, than I could ever teach him. and he helped me open these doors. So this book is the best from every self-made billionaire that I could find. Carl Icahn, I mean, I'm sitting down with this guy, he just made $2 billion in the last 18 months off a $30 million investment off Netflix. He sent an email or a tweet out about Apple saying it was undervalued and became, two hours later, it was worth $17 billion more by a tweet. So the people I've got to hang with over the last three, four years have been, I've got a PhD in finance, from the people controlling the world's finance. And what I've tried to do is the reason I did that is make it simple, bring it so I could train anybody else. Because in this business, what you don't know will hurt you financially. So I want to know how to.

Protect people and how to help people maximize. And that's the point of the book. It's incredible.

And what I want to know is why we weren't taught these things growing up. Me too.

Tell me.

Right?

So if you were, if they were like, okay, Tony, we're giving you the key to the education system.

Yeah.

And How would you apply, what teachings would you apply into about finances? Learning about this, how to generate wealth as opposed to trading time for money, but really leveraging it and investing it the right way.

What would you start implementing? Well, the first thing you want to teach anybody, a child, a kid, anybody, is that you'll never earn your way to freedom. You just don't. You look around and you see, you know, Kurt Schilling, if you remember from Boston Red Sox, in $100 million a year, he's broke, bankrupt. I asked Warren Buffett, I said, what made you the wealthiest man in the in the world. And he smiled and he said, Three things. He said, Living in America is great opportunities, having good genes, so I lived a long time. And he said, the last thing is compounded interest. And we all know about compound interest, but I give the example of this guy, Theodore Johnson, worked for UPS, never made more than $14,000 in income in his entire life in a year. And in old age, he was $70 million. And how did he do it? All he did was he took a percentage of his income, his 20% and his family said, you can't save any money. But he met a friend who said, if you pretend there's a tax and the tax just took the money away from you and you never see it, the money just comes out of your account and goes in investment account, you'll be financially free. So he was disciplined, he didn't look at it, it happened, $70 million by compounding. So people's mistake is, and kids don't know this, adults don't know this, that you won't earn your way there but you can compound your way there. What I want to do is say, where do you put that money?

That's a trick, right?

It's like a secret. Well, the first trick is actually doing almost nobody does. Right. The second trick is you really have to understand where you're going to get hurt because the fees.

The fees are just destroy people. You have a whole chapter about the fees. I was like, this is incredible.

Isn't it wild? It's nuts. I mean, there's so much money just on the fees. Well, it's just so people have an understanding. 96 of all mutual funds never match the market. I mean, they never beat the market. So I was just on morning show this morning and Michael Bloomberg's one of his guys that now some of his money. So I'm, you know, this is the only industry I know of where people think they can be a doctor. They think they could be a financial planner. And I said to him, I said, look, the statistics Warren Buffett taught me this, is that Ray Dalio told me this, David Swensen who took Yale from 1 billion to 24 billion in two decades, these are people telling me this. Nobody beats the market except a couple unicorns that nobody has access to. And I said, I didn't I didn't say you're not one of them. But I said, here's the truth. 96% of mutual funds don't match the market. That means 4% succeed. Now, what are your chances of picking the right mutual fund? People don't know what they're doing. They put their money in a 401k. They pick a mutual fund not knowing what it is. If you play blackjack and you and I play and you get two face cards and your inner idiot says, hit me, I want to give you one chance in a million. You have an 8% chance of winning. If you try get a mutual fund, you got the 4% chance of winning. So what I show people is not.

Only do you not get the result.

Thinking logically, if I hire someone else to do it, they'll do better than me. But in addition, you pay around 2,000% more than it's worth. Meaning you get the same exact product, the same stocks, if you own the index, right? You want a piece of all of America's best companies, say the Vanguard 500 Index, 500 top companies. That costs 0.17%, like less than two tenths of a percent versus the average mutual fund is 3.17.

Incredible.

But first just hear that so you understand it's like if the average car sold in America is a Honda Civic it's twenty thousand dollars you get the Honda Civic for twenty thousand or you can pay 350 000 that's the difference between 0.17 and 317. but if you look at it over a period of like how old are you 31. 31. okay so let's assume you and Buddies at 35 managed to put aside 100 grand. And you manage not to add any more money but to grow it at 7% in spite of ups and downs in the market. And you're 65. How much money do you have? Well, if you paid 1% in fees over those 30 years, your 100 grand became 574,000 bucks. Not bad for never adding another dime. If you had 3% in fees, had the same growth but 3% in fees, you now have 300... Oh, and 24,000. Almost half a Quarter million dollars, 77% less money. And you had the same return. It was just the fees.

So the world, most people you ask.

Them, what are your fees? They have no clue. So I've created a site where people can go, they can type it in, you find exactly what your fees are and what you should be paying. And it's highway robbery. Where in the world would you pay 2,000% more for the same exact product? You can only do it because the financial industry makes things so opaque, so convoluted. and people feel overwhelmed.

It's hard to understand.

It's very hard to understand. That's why I try to come in here and go, look, time to become the chess player, not the chess piece. Let me teach you so you understand what's going on. It's not that complex. They use all these big words, but when you know what's going on, you don't get screwed. And more importantly, you take advantage of the system instead of letting the system take advantage of you.

With all the tools you've learned and that wealth of information, over 39 years, almost four decades, strategies to break people through, to help them overcome their challenges. If you can only have, if you had to strip them all away, you can always use one strategy or one thing to use. What would that be?

I wouldn't. Part of why I'm effective is because I don't buy that. I'm always looking for more strategies because one strategy will work with one person, not with another. philosophically, I would say that the capacity to strengthen and increase your hunger is the one common denominator amongst the most successful people. You know, Richard Branson's a good friend of mine and Peter Guber, Steve Wynn, all these guys, they've never lost their hunger. Most people are hungry to achieve a certain amount, make a certain amount of money, and then they get comfortable and relax or to get a certain a certain level of fitness and then they relax. But, you know, Richard is as driven today as when he was 16 years old starting. I mean, he's, like, on fire, and he's 65 years old. Warren Buffett is 85 years old. He's as driven today as when, you know, he began the journey. Right. And so people that have that hunger, I believe intelligence. I love people that are wickedly smart, and I work to be wickedly smart by educating and training myself and so. forth and training my brain. But there's a lot of intelligent people can't fight their way out of a paper bag, right? Hunger is the ultimate driver. Because if you're hungry, you can get the strategy, you can get the answer. If you can't model it, you can find it. So hunger modeling would be maybe the next best skill, knowing that success leaves clues. Like, why reinvent the wheel? If someone took this plane was Mickey's plane who owns the Miami Heat and owns Carnival, right? I mean, you can learn so much from the man like Mickey, blow your mind what this man has been able to do in his life. And so why would I go learn by trial and error and maybe take 10 or 20 years when I could learn from somebody in a few weeks.

Or a few months or a few.

Hours something that could save me a decade? That's what it is. That's why I read 700 books in the first seven years because there's like, if somebody takes 10 years life they pour into a book and I can read that in an hour, two or three or four, why wouldn't I?

So how does someone continue to stay hungry or re, you know, rediscover what they're hungry about?

The best way is get around where it's better and things will hit you. Say it again. Get around where it's better and things will hit you. Who you spend time with is who you become. So, you know, when I started coaching all these billionaires, you know, there's a part of me that said, I, you know, I'm as smart in certain areas as they are. I got to step my game up. It's not about the money. It's about how can I take the invisible and make it visible? How can I find a way to add more value to other people to such an extent where economics are not a question whatsoever? And then I can take those economics and do even more where I'm not there. I look at money as portable power. I can leverage my money to do things for people even when I sleep. Now, I love doing these for people and I work 18-20 hour days still, but it's really nice to have the leverage of that as well.

Sure, sure. In a few sentences, what would you say is your current vision for life? What's the vision you have and what's the legacy that you want to leave behind?

I saw, have you seen Hamilton the.

Play in New York?

I heard it's incredible.

Everyone's raving about it.

You've seen it, right? Yeah, it's amazing. Isn't it extraordinary? Yeah, I loved it. I thought it was a lot, might be a lot of hype, but it was as good as the promise. Really? There's a line in Hamilton that I thought was really interesting. It says, Legacy is planting seeds in a garden that you'll never see. I thought it was really interesting. But so for me, I don't know.

-What'S the garden you want to create you'll never see?

-Yeah. For me, it's human lives. For me, it's, I love, my life is about being a blessing in the lives of the people I meet. I hope that whoever decides to watch your video, I hope something here will strike them and they can say, you know, I got to get in proximity or I got to raise my standard or I'm going to go master my damn money. I'm not going to dabble. I hope that it stimulates someone in a way where it becomes a blessing in their life. And my legacy is the lives that I've touched and my legacy is the institutions that I'm building right now that when I'm gone will continue to touch people. My foundation, the work that I'm doing with mentoring with kids, I mean the ability to touch another generation. But my heartfelt prayer every day is be a blessing. And you know it's interesting, sometimes you're a blessing just by Giving somebody a few moments just by loving on them, just being with them. Sometimes you're being a blessing because you coach them or you intervene with them. You can be a blessing in so many ways, but that's my daily focus. And it's not what I'm going to build for the long term.

It's really what am I going to do right now? Why is that?

Why do you want to create that legacy? Again, it's less about legacy than it is about doing what I'm made for while I'm here and maximizing it. I want the end to have me, I want to be climbing the mountain when I die, not sliding. So to me, it's about growth and it's about giving. Those are the only things that fulfill human beings. I always tell people, if you want to be happy, it's one word: progress. If you can make progress and if your progress is not only within yourself, but it's actually doing something of value for more than yourself, you're going to.

Be a damn fulfilled person. How do you stay grounded in your personal and intimate relationships when Everyone wants a piece of you. You sell out events 10, 20, 30,000 people come to your conferences, pay tens of thousands of dollars. Everyone wants to interview you. You're coaching presidents, billionaires, world-class athletes. They call you, they want you to help them break through the next level. How do you stay grounded in your marriage or with your kids or with friends?

-My mom's craziness gave me a great gift. I wanted to be a professional athlete and I wanted to be a professional baseball player. And when I got cut from the junior high school team, I figured out, I'm in trouble. So I decided to become a sportscaster, a sports writer. And so I took typing when I was in junior high school. I was the only boy in an all-girl shorthand class so I could capture everything because I wanted to be the best reporter, best sportscaster. I interviewed Howard Cosell and Woody Hayes and Dodgers and Rams. I got a job working looking for a daily newspaper when I was 13. And then I got this huge break, which was I got these interviews no one had, like Joe Namath when he was so famous. I got these interviews, and here in LA, KTTV Channel 11, it's now a Fox Channel, they were trying to get viewership. And so they kept trying different kinds of sportscasters. They even tried Fanny Fox, the stripper. And somebody watched some interviews I did and went, holy, this 14 year old kid I was about to be 15. He's brilliant. He's getting interviews nobody else is getting, you know? So they called me up and they offered me the job to be the nightly sportscaster as I was turning 15. And I was out of my mind. Like the dream I was gonna have when I was like 25 or 30 was happening, you know, I'm gonna be 15. And my mom said to me, your ego's too big. And if I let you do this, you're gonna even get bigger. And she not only would not let me take the job. She made me quit my job working for the Progress Bulletin, which was a daily newspaper in Pomona, California, doing sports. And I hated her and I was devastated, but it created a sensitivity inside of me that that along with I think watching athletes who would not sign a card for a kid because they were making money selling cards, would make me so angry that I said, I'm never going to be one of those people. And so I'm not, you know, I I certainly have plenty of pride in what I've been able to accomplish and people I've been able to help. But I always know I'm just a guy. And while I've worked my ass off, I've also had grace in my life. You know, and it, I think when you achieve things, it comes from incredible obsessive focus, massive action and figuring out the how to execute and do things effectively in its grace. And I never forget that that's a part of the formula for where my life is today.

Do you think people need a little bit ego to have that kind of drive and insanity or obsession? Or is it more just belief and a bigger vision?

I think ego can produce drive, but that kind of ego will make you not be fulfilled. And we all have it until we get a few hammers. Because in the beginning, when you're young, especially a young man, I think even more so than a woman, you're trying to find yourself. You're trying to prove yourself to the world, and really you're trying to prove it to yourself. yourself. Like in the very beginning for me, I used to attack psychiatrists and psychologists because I care about people so much and because I learned how to handle them in an hour and they were.

Working with someone for seven years and.

I would just go crazy. But I was also attacking them because I was also defensive because I didn't have a degree and so I figured I'm gonna be on the offense, I'm gonna show them. But as I grew up, I realized holy shit, these people care just as much as I do. Now I've trained 100,000 therapists around around the world with my partner, Chloe Madanes. We make films of people's lives, like suicidal people, people who've been through hell, and you get to watch how I do it as I do it, and then you could see them two years later, know it really worked.

Do you ever question choices of decisions you make today? And does everything you touch turn into what you want it to be?

No, of course not. No. Failure is part of life. I mean, the difference for me, though, is look at failure as a stepping stone to success. It's a speed bump. I know I'm going to fail, but it's not failure if you learn something. And so, gosh, I've made so many mistakes. I've screwed so many things up. But every time I do, it just becomes a way for me to explain to someone else what it takes. You know, it's like, here's what I've done. I think I have the ability to influence people because I talk about my failures. I talk about all the things that messed me up, but I people that didn't let him stop me and you don't need to stop you.

And I think that's really the secret. And if everything you touch was successful.

I want to relate to people's minds. No, you'll be relate and also it's be total bullshit and everyone know it's bullshit. And also you'd be bored silly.

I mean think about it, if you.

Just said, I want this to happen, I want this to happen, you know, people don't value what they don't fight for. You know, it's like you see kids sometimes in it, you know, your parents will say, you're not gonna value this if you don't work for it. and you're keeping going, oh, value it, just give it to me. But it's true, you know, about things we've worked the hardest for, we value the most. So I think, you know, the purpose of a goal is not getting it anyway. The purpose of a goal, you know.

Is what, who you become.

Who you become is going to make you happier, it's going to make you sad. So I'm not looking for an effortless approach. There's no such thing.

Now, I'm curious about relationships and building wealth. Is it important? to... Or how important is it to have the right partner in a marriage or an intimate relationship in relating to building wealth? Does it matter who you choose? Their mindset? Does any of that play the effect in how much you're going to make.

Or... -It won't affect how much you make but it'll affect your relationship a lot, right? You know, getting on the same page is really, really important. But when my wife and I met, my wife, we both grew up very poor. but I decided that I was going to find a way to add so much value that money would never be a question for my family. And, you know, it would never stop me from giving or doing or sharing anything. And I made that decision early on. So I became an earner, ways of earning. She became a negotiator, a cost manager. Her mom's number one thing is somebody comes in, she goes, sharpen your pencil. That's not a good enough deal. And so when we first met, I remember we were, we were in New York City. and this dates me how old I am. But I remember when they first came out with digital cameras, the very first digital cameras from Sony. And it was like such a cool thing. You could take 12 pictures or whatever it was in those days. But we were down in New York City, we're in Times Square, and we went into one of those camera shops. It was Christmas time, and I saw the camera, and I was like so excited about this camera. And I said, you know what? I'm gonna get one for my brother, my sister, my mom. And, you know, I came up with, I don't know, it was like 12.

Cameras, and they were very expensive.

I think they're like 1,200 or $2,000 each. They were really crazy.

Now they're like 200 for the same.

Yeah, I know, not even, it's a million times better. But I went to the counter and the guy goes, oh my God, Tony Robbins, can I take a picture with you? I'll put it on the wall inside. Sure. And she goes, Hey, she goes, show up in your pencil. What kind of deal are you gonna get my boyfriend here? And I wanted to grab her by the throat and just go, what are you doing here? It's like, what are you doing? And she's like, no, no, what's the deal here? and he goes, oh, well, I give you 10 off. She goes, sharpen your pencil.

10.

You're not taking a picture with my boyfriend, and I'm wanting to murder her, right? And I was so mad. I mean, I was so mad. And so she got, like, 15 off and free camera cases and all that stuff. And I'm shaking my head.

We left. I was like, I'm so.

We have this big fight today. I just call her squeaky. She's my squeaky girl. She wants to go to Walmart as if we'd ever. need to go to Walmart. And what I do is I'm delighted by the difference and I go, you, know what? What a beautiful gift. I've been in relationships before where I gave everything and people were totally unconscious with money. So to answer your question, it's nice to be on the same page, but you know, one day I told my wife I was coaching someone and the person gave me a quarter of a million dollar bonus. I don't care who you are, it's mind-boggling. It was like he didn't have to. It wasn't part of the deal. He pays me a million dollars a year plus a piece of the upside. And he said, Tony, you did so much for me, I just want to give you this additional quarter million dollar bonus. And it wasn't the money, it was the generosity that just knocked me off my seat.

And so I called my wife and.

I said, Honey, Paul just gave me a quarter million dollar bonus. I mean, he's like, he's so generous.

And she goes, oh, that's nice, honey.

Hey, do you know what I'm making for lunch? And I'm like, wow. So I used to get upset about it. Now I'm like, that's my squeaky little girls. I'm thrilled she doesn't have to think about it. I'm in charge. And so I don't think your partner has to. One of you has to master it, and you have to have some alignment. Okay.

But you don't want them to be against you, essentially.

Well, sometimes they're gonna be. We were against each other in some ways. We're having fights. But what you eventually decide is, do I want to be right or do.

I want to be in love?

I'd rather be in love personally.

Right.

And then also I just said, you know, to her, I said, listen, honey, I'm, I, I understand your intent. I had to go to her intent instead of being frustrated with her saying, this is really actually a cool quality and she's my opposite in that area. And it's a, and we're a good, we're a good balance together.

Now, I want to ask you how you personally handle a breakdown because you, I've been to your workshop and incredible experience.

Thank you.

And you teach people how to overcome their fears and how breakdowns, but how do you personally deal with it?

And do you even have any breakdowns? Yeah, they sent me a list of questions you had just to kind of give me a feed, and that was one of the questions. I was like, you know, it's interesting. It's breakdowns. It's certainly not something I experience, but it's not because I'm so talented or so brilliant or so fearless. It's just you're like an athlete. You're an athlete. Yeah. You're in shape. Yeah. Right. You're not going to have a reaction in your body like somebody who doesn't.

Take care of themselves.

Right. So, you know, I believe, I don't think I believe in emotional intelligence. I think it's useful, but I'm more interested in emotional fitness because intelligence is a capability. Fitness is a state of readiness. If you are fit, you can take.

That demand right now and you can deal with it.

You can deal with that physical stress and emotional stress. Same thing's true with psychological fitness, emotional fitness, right? So I'm pretty fit and part of that is not because I'm so smart. Part of it is I've taught this for decades. I remember I had a woman who came to one of my seminars in, I don't know, early 80s probably. and she would run in this room, 5,000-10,000 people, I think it was, you know, she went a couple of 10,000 person events, and she would get in this front row, fight her way through there, and she'd jump and go for it. And one break she came up to me, I was signing a book for her, and she says, Mr. Robbins, I've seen you at like eight of these. I've seen you like when you're really, I know, I can hear your voice, you're hurting, or you haven't slept, and she goes, you, always seem to be so up all the time.

How come you're so up?

And I said, well, part of it is I attend all these seminars. teaching it. So there's a fitness of that. But there's also, you know, I've buried three fathers and one mother and you know, that affects your life. I've had a physician look me in the eye and say, you have a tumor in your brain. And so I've had those moments that when you've had extreme stress and you push your way through it, you build psychological muscle. It's like it takes a lot to knock me off. You know, in the early days, we didn't have $50,000 to keep the doors open. How do we how we do it. Then I graduated to five million, then I graduated to a partner of mine who kind of didn't do things well and I ended up owning $100 million because I had to take on his debts. $100 million. But when you do all that stuff, now my companies do five billion a year. So you keep expanding what I would call really the circle of your threshold of your influence. Everybody has a threshold of control. and if you get beyond it, you kind of freak out. So it takes a little bit more.

I don't have breakdowns.

I don't have a breakdown. Do I get pissed off or get frustrated or tired?

Yeah, but breakdown? Honestly, no.

So how do you handle if you get tired of something? I sleep when I can. I mean, it's honest. It's pretty simple. But, you know, when I've had challenging times, I mean, I have so many tools. Yeah. You know, I pull them out. And mostly, so it's like you as an athletic. You know, you don't just physically break down. Right. Now you take care of yourself. So I think most people don't train their mind and emotions. It's like, I think the most powerful muscles to me are not physical, but as strong as important as they are. It's like faith is a muscle, courage is a muscle, determination is a muscle, playfulness is a muscle. You know, passion unexpressed, weakens. You know, faith untested gets smaller. So I'm always, I call it practice. I'm always pushing myself to the edge.

And pushing yourself the edge makes you stronger. In the book, I was really excited to hear you talk about you say the secret to wealth is gratitude. Somewhere in the book it says that.

And I think maybe it was someone.

Else you were referencing. Yes, it came from Sir John Templeton. And every day I practice gratitude. When I wake up and every night, I always try to say to my girlfriend or someone I'm talking to before I go to sleep, three things I'm most grateful for. That's great.

Now, why... So, I was pleased to see that. I was I'm on the right track.

If I'm living in gratitude, but why.

Is that the secret to wealth? Well, Sir John Templeton is probably one of the greatest investors in history. People don't know his name. He started out with nothing. He wasn't Sir, he wasn't from another country, he came from the US. And he decided that he wanted to understand wealth, and so he saved $10,000, a huge amount of money in those days. And when Hitler invaded Poland, he developed a belief. His belief was, you make your money in times of maximum pessimism. Like if you were around in 2000, 8-9, you remember what it was like, right? You could have bought the Sands in Las Vegas. You could have bought their stock for $2.28. Today it's $67. It's a 3,000% return. It's not bad. You could have bought Citibank for less than a buck. So people in those times, he understood that. And so what he did was, and everybody thought the world was gonna end, he took $10,000, he bought every stock on the New York Stock Exchange It was a dollar or less, including companies everybody thought were going bankrupt. But when things are bad, people think it's gonna be bad forever. When things are good, they think it's gonna be good forever. And they're always wrong. Life's cyclical. So there's a season for everything. So once we got through World War II and a few years later, guess what? Those same stocks made him a billionaire. So when I asked him, I said, what's the secret to wealth? His response was, you know it, you teach it. I said, what's that? He said, gratitude. And I said, why do you say that? He said, because if you got a billion dollars, and every day you live pissed off and frustrated, the quality of your life is called pissed off and frustrated.

But if you have nothing, but you're.

Euphorically grateful for whatever you have, you're the richest person that you're gonna know. He said, so it doesn't matter how much money you got if you don't have gratitude. So I do the same thing, by the way. I have a process I call it priming where I get up every morning, I do mine in the morning, I do this radical change to my body, kind of alter my state, and then I do 10 minutes, I never miss, and my first three and a half minutes, That's just what I'm really grateful for. And I make myself think of at least one of those three that's something really simplistic, instead of something giant, the wind on my face, the look in one of my kids' eyes, something of that nature. And then I do three minutes of strength and healing, and I do three minutes of what I'm going to create my world. And I do that for a minimum.

Of 10 minutes every day because I.

Believe you have to condition it.

You don't just hope that stuff shows up. You set your intention each morning.

I do that every day. Yeah. Very cool. So what are you most grateful for recently in your life? so many things. Well, it's Thanksgiving. So, one piece... Well, one is my daughter is 40 years old and she's been married for 20 years. I am a child forever. And she's gonna bring me a grandson.

Wow.

Congratulations. Thank you very much. That's cool. But also it's Thanksgiving. So, for me, it's a very emotional time because my family was fed when I was 11. We had no food at Thanksgiving. And it touched me so deeply and I decided I was gonna get back. So, when I was 17, I fed two families. and then four and then eight, and then I didn't tell anybody I was doing it, and then I got my friends to do it, and my companies grew, and I've fed 42 million people.

Now over 37 years.

But you have a challenge for this, right? A hundred million? Well, this one, what I did is I decided, I'm writing this book, and in the middle of writing it, last summer, most people didn't even notice. Congress cut food stamps. They don't call them food stamps anymore, but I lived on them, so I know what they are. Food stamps. My family lived on them. But they cut it by 8.7 billion, which means you eliminate two million people from the rolls overnight and they still need to eat. So I support all these nonprofit organizations and Feeding America is the largest in the country. And so I thought, I want to call attention to this. So if I donated all the profits of this book in advance, how many people could I feed? Because I normally feed 2 million through my foundation and I match it. So I feed 4 million a year. And they said, you, could feed 10 million people. I was like, wow. I mean, and then as the years gone by, I've got more and more inspired. And so now I'm going feed fifty million people personally, not just from the book, I'm writing a larger cheque on top of it, but also I'm working with Eating America to get matching funds to meet a hundred million people incredible. So to go from my family not being able to eat to feeding a hundred million people is a pretty amazing sense of gratitude and a sense of grace and yeah I've done my part.

But there's been grace in that as well. It's amazing.

It'S incredible what you're doing and very inspiring. so thank you for you're doing that.

Anybody gets the book Ju provenence for.

You you also feed on the average 50 families.

100 is being a hundred percent.

Not only 100, more than that.

That's amazing. Now, I think I also read in the book, I don't know if you said this or someone else said this, but the key to living is giving.

Yes.

Now, I think I might have heard you say this actually back when I first saw you when I was 16 at an event.

And.

I remember thinking, I don't have anything to give. I don't have any money. How am I supposed invest my money 10-20% every month, and then how can I give on top of that? But I really understood that it's so valuable and important to give, and I work with a lot of nonprofits myself, building schools for kids around the world. And I've seen a big impact in my life, the way I'm able to serve people.

Sir John Templeton told me that he's never seen anyone tithe, which tithe is usually 10% of what you earn for at least a decade. He didn't become incredibly financially free. And I think the reason is I had a moment like when my whole life changed. It was kind of twofold. I was really young like yourself back then, right? Working my tail off, trying to build a business. And you have big goals, you know, you don't always succeed to start with. You just come together, right? You know, it was hard. And I remember I was so frustrated because I was working 18-hour days and nothing was working and I was broke and I felt embarrassed, you know, I should be doing better than this. And so, I was driving home from Orange County on the 57 freeway in San Gabriel Valley out near a place in Pomona, California. It probably doesn't know anybody else, but I remember so vividly because it was almost midnight. And I was at this breaking point and then I was like, why am I not doing better? And then I just pulled over the road and I used to keep these journals. I still have them, written journals. And I wrote in big lines, the secret to living is giving. And I started to cry. And I realized I am so focused on what am I not getting? And I'm focusing on not what I'm giving. So for six months, man, it turned me around. But then, you know, something else I get in your body. It was in my head, it was in my heart, but I had to get in there to stay. And I started going through some really tough times and I lost everything financially. And I was mad at everybody because like I loaned a friend a thousand bucks and you know, I had them doing well and he didn't even return my phone call. And what changed me was I was down to, I don't know, 22-23 bucks, something like that. I don't know, it was $24. Enough that I knew that I didn't have money for for food for the next week, clearly. And I didn't have any prospects. And I was living in Venice in this 400 square foot bachelor apartment, feeling sorry for myself, getting pissed off. And I thought, you know what? I gotta eat. So I'm not gonna drive my car 'cause I'm not gonna spend the gas. I'm not gonna pay for parking. I'm gonna go to an all-you-can-eat place and load up for the winter, right? So I could get more, like one meal a day. And so there's a place called Marina Del Rey, not far from Venice. And it's beautiful community and it's right on the water. And there's a place called El Torito. it's still there. It's a little restaurant. It had taco bar and all that kind of stuff. So I walked there for the three miles, and I go, like, I'm gonna go and load up. And I was all about myself and getting through this. And this little. Well, this woman walked the door, actually, very attractive lady. That's probably why I caught my attention. And I'm waiting to see who her boyfriend is. And there's nobody up there. There's a little guy down here. It was obviously her son. And he's wearing this three-piece suit, you know, a little vest. He opens the door for her. he pulls out the chair for her and it was just, he stared to his mother's eyes. I mean, it was just pierced into her eyes. I don't know what it was, but something about him was just so moving. He was such a sweet, caring, loving young man. His mother that moved me. So I paid for my meal. I don't know what was left, 17, 18 bucks. Put it back in my pocket, was left. Walked up this young man, introduced myself and I said, hi, I don't remember his name. I think he said his name was Ronnie. And I said, Ronnie, I said, said, you're really I said, you,'re a class act. I saw how you opened the door for your lady. I saw how you held out the chair for your lady. He goes, She's my mom. I said, that's even more classy. And I said, so cool that you're taking her out to lunch like this. And he goes, well, I'm not really taking her out to lunch because I'm just 11 and I don't have a job. I said, Yes, you are. And I had no plan. I literally just reached in my pocket, took all the money I had, changed dollar bills, and threw it right there in front of him. You look at me like this? He goes, I can't take that. I said, Sure, you can. He said, well, why? I said, because I'm bigger than you are. And he got this big grin on his face, his eyes got this big. And I didn't, I just shook his hand. I didn't look at this, his mom. And I just walked out the door. But the reason I tell you the story is I had no car, I had no money. I did not, I was euphoric. I was like flying home. I was like, you know, I probably looked like an idiot probably skipping or something. I was just, I, and what I felt was, I should have been like, what the hell did you just do? I don't mean or are we gonna eat? I went home that night, I laid out a plan, and the plan was gonna take me, you know, 10 days, two weeks. So I thought, well, people fast for a week. I could fast for a week, you.

Know, that type of thing.

And I was in this great mindset about it. I woke up the next morning and I get the old regular snail mail shows up, and it's this guy I've called a zillion times. He wouldn't return my call. I open it up, there's a check, thousand bucks, plus interest and an apology. Wow. So I'm sitting there and I started to cry, honestly, and I was just like, Why did this happen? You know? And I don't know if it's true, but I decided that day this happened because I did the right thing. Because I didn't have a plan. It wasn't a strategy. I just felt this little soul beside me. I knew it was right and I did it. And I didn't do it because I thought I could or I couldn't. I didn't even think about it. And that's the day I became a wealthy man. Because I didn't have any money, but scarcity left my body. And I had plenty of ups and downs since that time, various times in my life. But I never went back to that. oh my God, you know, how's it gonna happen? It's like breathing. Do you stop and say, God, is there gonna be the air before you take a breath? You know it's gonna be there. You don't run your life by that aspect. And so that to me is what it's about, is showing people, if you won't give a dime out of a dollar, don't bullshit yourself. You'll never give a million out of 10 million or 10 million out of 100 million. It's just not gonna happen. But if you can do that now, you don't ever get beyond scarcity and.

You start behind it.

You make a decision to get beyond it.

So how does someone, you know, when they're living in scarcity, they're living in fear. Yeah. And it's like this emotional feeling. It's in your body, like you say, when you're like, I can't even pay for my meal. How am I gonna, like, start giving? What are some things that people can do to start overcoming that mindset or.

Start strengthening it or shifting it? I'll tell you what I did when I was first on my own. You know, I got my dad. My mom kicked my dad out when I was 17. She's very powerful woman. My father so they all learned how to get the boot. She thought I was in his side, so she kicked me out next. I was 17. She chased me out with a knife. She wouldn't have hurt me, but I wasn't going back in the room. And that's how I figured out what to do. And I didn't play stay. And, you know, I ended up staying in somebody's laundry room for a while. And then I started reading and feeding my mind. And then I developed this little system. And the system was really simple. And I tell people now, as I say, number one, every single day, you got to feed and strengthen your mind until you do that, you're always. always going to be unfair. Because fear is automatic. The human brain is designed for survival. It's not designed for Success. Your brain is not designed to make you happy. That's your job. Right. The only way you're going to do it is if you feed your mind. Because otherwise, weeds grow automatically. My coach, my Mentor, Jim Rohn used to tell me. So, Tony, every day you got to stand guard at the door of your mind.

You gotta watch what's going in.

Because if you're not careful, stuff will go in. He said, not all the times it's somebody who cares about you.

He said, you know, if you're.

Your family. Yeah. If your worst enemy. puts sugar in your coffee. He said, what happens? I said, you got sweet coffee. He goes, Work your best friend by accident or your family. Don't mean to. They drop one drop of strychnine in your coffee. You're dead. He said, so life, sugar and strychnine and watch your coffee. Right, right. So every day I decided I I'm old enough. Honestly, there was no internet those days. And pretty ancient. I used to go to the library because it's the only place you'd go. And I would feed. I read biographies. I'd read people's lives and it'd make me go, wait a second. As bad as I think it is, The greatest people in the world had it worse. So there's something here. So you feed your mind. Jim Rohn, you say to me, skip a meal but don't skip reading. He said, read 30 minutes a day, I don't give a damn what it is. Today, I don't mean internet crap. I mean read something, a biography, read something that's a strategy, read something that's going to change your life. And the second thing I tell people is feeding your mind is great, but you've got to also strengthen your body. And you do that as an athlete naturally. I learned to do that because fear is physical, you know what you feel it. and if you go work out, if you go lift, if you go run, even if you're out of shape, you just go for an intense walk, that experience alone changes your life. Every day in my life, the first thing I do before I do my priming, if I'm in one of my homes, I jump in some hot water for fun and then I jump in freezing water and I have a river in one of my homes in Sun Valley and I've got cold plunges everywhere else. So I go in 57 degree water, boom. And what it does is like it's teaching my brain. I tell my brain what to do and it It doesn't feel like it doesn't want to do it and every cell in your body is alive, right? So it doesn't have to be like two hours worth of something. It could be something you do for 30 seconds but it's training your body to be strong because a strong body gets strong mind and vice versa. The third thing I tell people is find a role model. It seems impossible till you see somebody's done it. So Ray Dalio is one of the greatest investors in history. The guy was a caddy, right? His dad was a jazz musician. his mom was a homemaker. You know, he's worth $14 billion.

He found someone to mentor him.

He found multiple people to model. You don't always find a mentor, but you find somebody you can model. And when you start seeing that somebody else can do it and you see they really did, you start to believe. You start to get certainty. And then the fourth thing I tell people is massive action and constantly change your approach. And then it's find somebody worse off than you are and help them. Because when you do that, it gets you out of yourself. And that's what I really have people do. That's what we do at ThanksGiving. We have our basket brigade where 2 million people get fed. Amazing. Not the one I do, the one that I get people to do. And it's amazing people go in there and they see, my God, I thought.

My life was tough.

But look at this person's life. It makes you appreciative.

It puts life in perspective. But I wanted to ask first what the difference is between someone who is financially rich and someone who's financially or what's the difference?

There's lots of differences, but I'd say the first one is someone who is financially rich is an owner. They're not a consumer. They're a consumer also. But when somebody is poor, they're a consumer. All they do is they take, you know, I always tell people we're all financial traders. I people say, I'm not a financial trader. Yes, you are. You're trading time for money. That's the worst trade you can ever make in your life. Somebody who's wealthy has made money their slave. They're no longer the slave to money. And the way they do that is they figured out how to become an owner and the way you do that in the most simplistic way, I even taught it in my first book, was you have to decide there's a percentage of money that you're going to keep forever. You're not going to give it to Kate Spade or Ferrari or anybody else. You can do that too, but there's a percentage of that income that never will be touched, that you will grow and compound and will provide income for the rest of your life so you don't have to work. Now, when I was growing up, everybody's goal was get rich enough so you never have to work. Now, like all my friends are 15, 18 years my senior. People like Steve Wynn, who built most of Las Vegas. He's like 74. Warren Buffett's 85. Peter Guber, one of my dearest friends in the world, owns the Golden State Warriors, the LA Dodgers. We're partners in the LAFC football team in LA.

Brilliant guy, 74 years old.

And they're all working harder now than they ever were. And they don't have to work. So the goal is make enough money so you don't have to work, and then you'll do what you love, and you'll pour your time and energy into it. you have to make that decision. If the first most important decision is I'm going to become an owner of American business, you don't want to have an Apple phone and not own Apple. And you don't want to just own Apple because any company can go up and down. Right. You want to own the index. You want to own, you know, a variety with enough diversification. But if you can just shift, and I've taught people who've told me they couldn't, they have no money, they can't save. It's really easy once you get momentum. There's a research project I did with a gentleman who was nominated for Nobel Prize on behavioral finance. And what he did was he said, if you can even, you know, you need to save 15%, ideally. But if you could even save three percent, because anybody can do that. They took a group of blue collar workers in the Midwest and said, we're going to force you to save three percent. I think it was three and a quarter or three and a half. But then we're, everybody can go on a diet tomorrow. Everybody can save money tomorrow. Right? Yeah. So his tool was All right, you're not going to save today, you're going to save tomorrow. We'll do the 3.5%, but then you go to your employer and say, the next time I get a raise, the first 5% goes to my savings account, to my investing account. And then every time you get a raise to do that, well, in 14 years, the average person was saving 15% and the top 40% were saving 20. Let me explain what that means. You and I were together before, when I'm trying to explain compounding to people, Everybody understands it intellectually. But when I ask some of the richest people in the world, what are most investors failing to do? And they all say, they're not tapping the power of compounding. So if you're in a situation where, as an example, let's take you've got $100,000 that you've saved. You're 35 years old. And you put it in the market and just leave it there and never add anything to it. If you leave it in the market and you're only being charged 1% in fees, at retirement 35 years later, you got 762,000 from that 100. Never added a dime. It grew that much. But if you pay 3% of fees, which is the average most people are paying, when you ask people what they're paying, they don't know, or they say 1%. Because when you hear about fees, let's say a mutual fund fee, you'll always hear 1%. That's the expense ratio. There are 17 other fees. So every 1% you overpay, 1% is the average. If you pay two or three and the average mutual fund 3.12. Sounds like nothing, one or two percent. But every one percent you overpay because of compounding means you lose a decade of income. So the person paid one percent has 762,000. The person who paid three percent has $452,000 and they own the same stocks. It's just fees. So while we compound our interest, we also compound fees. So if you could save three percent and build it to five, 10, 15, or you start with 10 or 15 and eventually get to 20, the best example I can give your viewers is that there's a gentleman who worked for UPS who literally never made more than $14,000 a year. You heard about him in the book. And when he retired, he had $70 million. And he gave away $35 million while he was alive. And the reason was a friend of his set him aside and said, Look, I'm gonna make you rich. He goes, I'm never gonna be rich. I make $14,000 a year. He goes, I'm gonna make you rich. I'm gonna make you rich later in life, and I'm gonna do it by a 20% tax tax to your business. And he goes, I make 14,000 a year. I can't live on 20% less. His friend said to him, if the IRS came and said a 20% more tax, you'd scream, you'd yell, and you'd pay it. And he said, We're gonna pay it for you. And that 20% compounded generated $70 million. So for the people that are at home, the sooner you start, the better off you are, because compounding does it. I've got an example in the book of a guy that starts at 19. He puts aside $300 a month. he stops at 27. So he does it for eight years. He only puts in, I think it was $35,000. But it's a million dollars by leaving in the market when he turned 65 and he stopped at 28. He has a best friend that starts at 28, invests his entire life, puts in $180,000 and he has less money at the end. The sooner you start, the better you are. Yeah.

So many questions I want to ask.

I don't dominate the place.

So many I want to ask. Is there a way to be financially free just by saying I'm going to earn more every year as opposed to investing every year? Can you do without investing at all or do you have to invest? And when you say put it in the market, you mean put it in index funds is what I mean. Well, in the book I explain you've.

Got to have diversification. You don't just throw it in the.

Stock and just leave it there.

No, and what most people do is they go to a mutual fund. They think it sounds logical. I'm no good at this. This is not my skill a person says. You go to a professional who runs a mutual fund. What do they do? They figure out a series of investments to make. They put it in the fund and they do it for you. And you think, well, gosh, they're smarter than I am. They'll do well. You assume that, but the truth is they charge so much that even if they did have an advantage, they lose it. I interviewed David Swensen, who's the head of chief investment officer at Yale. It took Yale 200 years to get a billion dollars that they saved. He turned it into 25 billion. in two decades. It's unheard of. He's the greatest institutional investor of all time.

And one of the things that he.

Told me, he said, Tony, you just gotta understand something. He said, you're never gonna earn your way to wealth. He said, how many people have you seen, movie stars, actors, athletes? You know, the other day, 50 Cent just went broke, right? He made, he made a hundred million dollars on vitamin water alone. Somebody gave him a tip. And he's, he would have a half a, half a billion dollars and he's broke.

Completely broke. Mike Tyson made a half a billion.

Dollars and went broke. You can understand that a little bit. Yeah. I think it's 78.

50% of NFL players go bankrupt two.

Years after that's prior. That's correct. And the average lifespan of an NFL player is three and a half years. So these guys work their whole life, they go through these rough injuries, and they don't have that. So the answer is you can make a fortune. Elton John didn't go bankrupt because it's different rules in England, but he got in trouble. Who I just saw the other day is, what's his name? The Pirates of the Caribbean.

What's his name?

Johnny Depp.

Johnny Depp. Johnny Depp's going bankrupt right now. Really?

He's making like 20, 30 million a year.

Joni Biel was worth $700 million, three quarters of a billion. He's on the verge of bankruptcy right now, can't pay his bills. He was spending $30,000 a month on wine alone. Oh my gosh. He spent $3 million to take Hunter Thompson's body, burn it, put the dust into this giant cannon and shoot his dust into space. Three million bucks.

It doesn't matter how much money you.

Earn, you can always get rid of it and lose it. Buy an island and watch how quickly it disappears. So what I show people is what you really want to do is create an income for life without working. The goal, if you own a business, and I would assume a lot of your viewers are business owners or are getting started in business, no matter how good you are in business, think about this. The one universal rule that idiots in finance know is diversification. It's the only free lunch. You've got to diversify. Because if you put all your eggs in one basket, no matter how good the basket is, one day that real estate market, that stock market, that bond market, that collectibles market, whatever you invest in, Ray Dalio showed me statistically, it'll drop 50 to 70% on a day. Now, if you're later in life when that happens, it's over for you. So you have to diversify and yet most people, they know real estate so they do it, or they know stocks so they do it, or they grew up with their parents flipping things. and it's the wrong thing to do. So you've got to diversify in order for you to be able to truly succeed. And that's why when you own a business, if you put all your money in your business, which is what most of us do naturally, you put all your eggs in one basket and there's things that can happen. I mean, you know, you're, let's say you spent 20 years and you figured out how to put together the ultimate map, you know, and you remember Garmin came out with this thing called the TomTom. I don't know if you remember, he used to put on your, are you old enough to remember that? put on your phone or you put on your dash cost 100 bucks. It was a breakthrough.

They were making like 100 million or something or.

Yeah, six months later, what happened? The iphone came out with google maps. These little bastards, excuse my french, came out with it, put google maps, put.

Their own map on here and it cost how much? Zero. What are they gonna do to your.

Business when someone takes your product or serve and gives away for free? So I always tell people, competition happens, technology happens. What you must do is have a second business. with no moving parts, no people, no time. Maybe it takes you two, three days a year for two or three hours after you've read the book. You put it in place and you measure it two or three times a year. That's it.

Go on with your life.

Now, if there's a trouble in your business, you're financially set. I, in my life, at 31 companies now, we have, you know, what do we have? 1,200 employees, seven different industries. We do $5 billion in sales. I mean, I used to be me and my seminar business, it's grown geometrically. But with all those moving parts, the only way I've been able to succeed is because I've taken every one of those businesses and I've diversified my assets so that when things were in trouble, I still had enough economics to take care of myself and keep the business going. So everybody needs to create a money machine that works while you sleep, that doesn't have moving parts, and that's what this is really about.

You have a great cartoon in the book. where there's a kid asking his father, you know, something about like, how do you invest your money or how's the stock market work? And he says, you put your money in at the peak, it starts to go down and lose money. And so you get scared and you take it out. And then someone smarter than you makes all the money, something like that. So how do we how do and I've done that in the past where I put my money in somewhere high, it went down and I was like, oh, I just lost a bunch of money. Let me take it out. Yeah. and then I put it back in another time and I'm like, what am I doing? So how do we invest without fear of, oh, it's going down, I need to take it out, or like trying to time it? How do we do that?

Great question. It's one of the main reasons I wrote the book. I always tell people, if you just read the second chapter of the book and nothing else, it'll change your life. You can do that with multiple chapters, but that chapter is really about teaching people that winter is coming. We all know winter's coming, right? To coin a phrase. but that winter is the best time on earth. And I know that's counterintuitive, and I don't mean like being a positive thinker, I mean pure facts. So, in the book, I take you through 10 facts. I'll give you a couple of them right now. The first fact I give people is, why do people not invest? They're afraid of failing. You're a millennial, right? So, you grew up witnessing 2008 when you were still relatively young. How old are you now?

33.

Okay, so you were, what, 27?

2008?

Yeah, 27, I guess.

27, 28 years old.

So you're a young man, and you're watching the world melting down in front of you. For most millennials, they are the first generation since the generation that went through the depression that is not investing at the ratio they need to even close. And they have more debt than everyone probably, right? With all the-- They have more college debt than everyone, absolutely true.

I have a friend that has $400,000 in debt. Dental school.

President Obama just paid off his debt five years ago while he was still president. What? No, I swear to God. It's mind boggling. And he had a bunch of scholarships, but the last bit it took him that long. So what I tell them is listen.

Paying off your debt's not enough.

You've got to become an owner or you're always going to be in that place. So yes, pay off your debt, but here's what you need to know. You got to become an owner. You got to get in the game, but you got to understand the rules of the game. You don't know the rules of the game, the old phrase is, when a person with experience meets a person with money, we know the phrase. The person with the money ends up with the experience. The person with the experience ends up with your money, right? So I teach people the rules of the game so they don't get screwed. But the most important thing is this. Winter's coming, but people react. So let's take last year. Last January 2016, we had the worst stock market opening in the history of the stock market. First, I think it was 10 days. There was a drop of $2.3 trillion with a T. Crazy. Everybody's freaking thinking the bear market's here, the market's over, the crash is here. I think the market dropped 800 points one day and on that day, all the richest people in the world were in Davos, Switzerland, you know, for the big conference that they do every year. And they went there, MSNBC went there and everybody's freaking, what are we going to do? And they said, let's go ask Ray Dalio. Now, your listeners may or may not know Ray Dalio as, if you're not in the financial business, probably never heard of him. You've probably heard of Warren Buffett, but Ray Dalio has been more. You have to have a $5 billion net worth and $100 million to give him or he wouldn't talk to you 10 years ago. Now, he doesn't care for shit how much money you have, he won't talk to you. 'cause he's got a close fund. But they go and they put value on television, CNBC, he's the king. What do we do? And he says, well, you don't need to panic. Corrections happen all the time. But you need a strategy that when markets go up and down, you don't go up and down. And he said, I spent 15 years of my life to perfect such a strategy. All of my money's in that plan. And he said, It's called All Seasons, and I've never revealed it before, but I gave it to Tony Robbins. He extracted it from me, and it's his book. So you gotta go read his book. This is what he says on National Television, the Data the markets are crashing. And that day, to give you an idea, which is the beginning of February, I think it was nine days into February, the market was down 9% in the first five weeks of the year. His strategy, which he gave me, which is made money 85% of the time for the last 75 years. It's averaged a 10% return just under, and the average loss when it 15% loss was 1. six. So if you go to Vegas and you could spend 85% of time make money and when you made money was 10% your loss is 1.6 you can go forever. His plan made 2% while the market was down 9 so it was up 11% difference. Now I'm not suggesting that's the only strategy to do there's many his is the smoothest ride with the least risk but what it did was combination of that and then right after that I interviewed Fed Chair Alan Greenspan. He was the head of our economy, the most powerful man of finance for 19 years, four presidents, he was there running. I was just with President Clinton this last week. He was the Fed chair for him. And I interviewed him for like two hours, or three hours off stage, two hours in front. And then I asked him, in the very beginning of this thing, I said to him, I said, look, if you could put the Fed today, what would you do? And he looks at me and as I said, he leans forward and he says, resign. So I look at that and go, Oh my God, I need to write a book that'll free people. So here's what'll free you. Everyone's afraid of the crash. So here's what we need to know. Two terms you should understand. Correction versus crash. Anytime the market drops from its high by 10% or more up to 20%, it's called a correction. If it drops 20% or more up to 80%, like in the Great Depression, then it's called a crash or called a bear market. So how often does a correction happen? How often do we have to be prepared for it? Since 1900, we've had a correction on average every year for 116 years. So when is winter coming? This year on average. It's like how often does winter come? You wouldn't be surprised if it stormed and rained. Now some winters are long, some are short, some are harsh, some are light, but winter always comes. So I wasn't panicked when this happened last year. I'm not panicked whenever it happens because.

I know it's supposed to be.

How long does it last? Average, 56 days. Okay, so just under two months. What's the average drop during that time? 14% over the last 30 years, 13.5 of the last 100 years. So I use the more recent one. 14% gets your attention, right? 14% you get a little gut check. But here's what you need to know. 80% of all corrections never become a bear market. 80%. So all this fear and what people do is what you said you did is, They see it, it's freaking out, I'm losing money, I'm the hell out of here. And they get out. The stock market never took a dime from anybody, only you can take it from you. You sold, that's why you lost. So if you look back and say, what was it like in 2008? I can remember vividly being with my platinum partners and saying, you, see these $80 stocks? This is six months before the crash. I told them in April, I brought them to Dubai and I said, these stocks are going to go to eight. and some are going to go to a buck. And by October, and I told them what to do, so they were able to get out. October, I go on the Today Show in October of 2008, and they go, Tony, there's been $3 trillion meltdown. Pump the country up. You got four minutes. Ready, go. That's not what I do, first of all. And I said, that'd be a lie. I'm not going to, at that point, the $80 stocks were eight. I said, some of those, I said, I'm not a market forecaster, but I work with Paul Tudor Jones, one of the greatest investors in the history of the world. in the biggest market crash in history, you know, 1987, he made 200% when everybody else was losing their entire life. And I've been coaching him continuously now for 24 years, every single day. So I said, I work with the best in the world, and they're telling me based on history in the 30s and history in the 70s, this $8 stock, some are going to be a buck. And I remember the day in March of 2009, Citibank, which had been, I think, $70, sold for 97 cents. You could go and take your money out of the ATM, it cost you.

More to take your money out than.

To own the bank, right?

And then I told people it'll jump.

From 99 cents to 6, 10, 12 dollars in a month or two and it's exactly what it did, right?

So what you got to know is.

Corrections happen every year. You got another couple months, got to know it's 14% and you won't lose because 80% of the time it doesn't go to a bear. Now, what about the bear? The bear market, it happens to give you an idea in the last 100 years, every three to five years, we've gone eight without one. We're way overdue. In modern years, last 30 years, it's about every five years. The average length of a bear is one year. The average drop is 33%. A third of those drops go 40% or above. That, I don't care how well prepared you are, that's a scary thing. But it is the greatest opportunity in your lifetime to go from wherever you are financially to where you want to be. I hope your audience is listening right now. Hear me. If you want to leapfrog and you're a millennial and you think there's no future or you're a baby boomer and you think you're too old and it's too late, the greatest gift you have is coming. I know it doesn't sound like it. This is not positive thinking bullshit. This is the truth. Wall Street. The stock market is the only place that when things go on sale, people freak out. If I said, you like Ferraris?

Sure.

If I said to you, Ferraris go on sale for 50% off.

Awesome.

But when I tell you Apple's on sale for 50% off, you go, oh, what am I gonna do here? What's wrong? The whole world's coming to an end. If you think about it, how old are you? 33. 33. So let's assume if you were 35 and you lived to 85, you got 50-52 years ahead of you. you. That means you have 52 more corrections to live through. That means you're probably in those 50.

Years going to have 10 more bear.

Markets to live through. If you're going to have a gut checks every time or you're going to leave out of it. If you didn't participate because you thought, oh, the market's too volatile, I can't trust it, all that stuff, you missed 250% return in the last eight years. I mean, you've missed out on everything while you're waiting for things to be better. And if you won't do it when it's like this, when it crashes, you're not going to get in. So here's the good news about the bear. Good news about the bear, average ones a year. Could be longer, but that's the average. Could be shorter. But here's what's cool. Every single bear market in the history of the United States has led to a bull market, meaning right afterwards. So 2008, this plummeting, what happened in 2009, up 67% in a year. I can show you every single bear market. And the next year, when it comes out, it's the explosion. Now, that's not true in every market in the world. It's true for two centuries in the United States. Wow. So that's why Warren Buffett says, I want to be greedy when people are afraid, and I want to be afraid when people are greedy. If you remember 2008, he was telling everybody, buy. He was having the time of his life. Buy, buy, buy, everything's on sale. So what you have to do to become unshakable is turn, the metaphor I use is turn the snake into the rope. Meaning, we all know the story. It's the middle of the night, you're walking through the yard or someplace, and you see a snake. and you freaked out, you pull back, you come in the morning and it's a rope. Once you know it's a rope, you're never afraid again. I want to take for people investing and show them how to turn that snake into the rope it really is. And I'll tell you one final stat on all this. People always say, and you started bringing up timing. How do I time it? Right now, things are too expensive, I want to wait. People have been saying that for eight years. Is there going to be a correction? Yes. But when it corrects, you want to invest again. You'll get dollar cost averaging. If you paid a little too much here, you'll pay paying less here, it'll bring the average to a reasonable place. It's going to allow you to succeed. But here's what people need to know about timing. If you are not in the market, it's the most dangerous thing. This is so counterintuitive, so I hope your audience is listening. Let me show you. There's two different research projects. One was done by JP Morgan. I just spoke for them the other day at their alternative investments conference. And to be in the room, there are 400 people. You have to have a billion dollar network to get in the room. It was mind boggling. Right? So JP Morgan did a study and also Schwab did a separate study. 20 year studies. In the last 20 years, to give you an idea, the average S&P 500, that index has produced 8.2%. Over 30 years, it was 10.28. But in the last 20 years, a little bit less. Still great. You double your money, you know, roughly you're in a position where you double the money a little more than every, you know, you know, what is it now, 7.2, so it'd be like a.

Little more than 10 years.

Here's what they found out. If you missed the 10 best trading days in 20 years, because you're trying to time the market and you're not in it during one of those days, you went from 8.2% return over that period per annum per year, it dropped down almost half, 4.5%. What are the chances of you knowing the past 10 days to trade in 20 years? None. Warren Buffett said, Market timers and market forecasters are only there to make fortune tellers look good. because no one can do it successfully. Even if they do it for a while, it doesn't last. It's luck. You know, Jack Bogle told me who started Vanguard, you know, $3 trillion company. He said, we took gorillas a thousand in a room and had them flip coins. And we did, we said, how many times got heads, how many got tails? Just gorillas flipping them randomly. And he said, one gorilla in that set of, of those turns flipped heads 21 times in a row. Now, when you look at that, see all these gorillas doing it, you look on and say, what a lucky gorilla. He said, but in the hedge fund industry, in the mutual fund industry, when somebody does 10 in a row, you go, what a brilliant investor. Right, what a genius. And it's just averages in luck at that time. Yeah. In fact, he showed me that 96% of all mutual funds fail to match the market over a 10-year period of time. Only 4% make it and they're constantly changing. So the statistic I want people to know is, if you missed the 20 best trading days in the last 20 years, just 20 days in 20 years, one day a year in 20 years, and you're wrong, you're wrong on time, your 8.2 doesn't drop to 4.5, it drops to 2%. You might as well been unrolling a bond at no risk. If you miss the top 40 trading days to give you an idea, you are minus 2%. So you've got to get in the market. And if you're saying, what about my timing though? Study was done by Schwab. If you've got the perfect timing for the year, the right day, the best possible day to buy, some people, the worst day, someone else dollar cost averages, keeps spending the same amount every month regardless of prices. and somebody stays in cash. Who has the worst return?

The guy trying to time or no?

Cash.

The cash.

You get nothing for cash. The guy who was the best had the best timing. The guy that was the worst, the guy that dollar cost average and the one that was on the worst day were almost identical. But after seven years, there was only a $20,000 difference in accumulated assets between the worst day and the best the worst was not being in the market. See, you've got to be there. And I'm not saying put everything in stocks. We teach in the book all these different assets for diversification. But stocks in the last two centuries have provided the highest returns. So you have to have significant exposure to that if you want to get the highest return.

Got it. And what I love in the book, you say that 80% of financial success is psychological, 20% is mechanical. So it's not about timing and trying to figure all these things out. when's the best thing or the best fund or best investment?

This is not about trading, it's about investing. Trading is trying to do that and most people lose money trading. Even the guys that tell you to make money, see how they're making money.

Two or three years from now.

They usually eat the dust, right? Exactly. So yes, you've got to have the psychology and my best way of psychology.

Is not to pump you up.

If you want to be unshakable, you want to be educated and you want to know the facts. You want to know, look, every five years I'm going to get a bear, maybe three years, I'm going to get a correction every year, but I'm going to be in the market and make money.

Do you know that?

Six of the 10 best trading days in the 20 years happened within two weeks of the worst trading day. So when Trump was elected, the market dropped, I think it was 800 points that night. Then at three or four in the morning, he made a speech where he was somewhat human and normal. And the market which got all its money back and since then we're up 14% in November, December, January, three months, three and a half so people need to understand you got to be in the market because the worst days will bring you your best days.

Now I went to India last year and I went to One World Academy.

That's great.

Connected with Christian G and Pizza G. The whole team. And I went for two and a half weeks.

That's awesome.

It was a game changer. And I'd heard that you'd went there.

Yes. And she's a good friend of mine.

When I read the end of the book, you talked about beautiful states, suffering.

State, what I learned.

And I love how you share that. You used to talk about being in a peak state as often as you can, but now you really kind of transition into beautiful state, right? Yeah, well, Kashi and I were talking.

He said something really beautiful to me. He's a dear friend of mine. I've known him for, I guess, about 15 years. His father is one of the most powerful spiritual teachers in India. One that's, and so to give you an idea, he's considered an avatar there. So I went there and they had a opening, Krishna Ji helped to organize it, and they expected a quarter million people over five days and a half a million people showed up the first morning. So it was like the ultimate craziness, if you imagine. So he's got some really beautiful grounding and his father is not just a religious man, he's really a spiritual man. He believes whatever you believe is wonderful, but what you have to do is wire your brain so that you're connected to the aspect of your spirit or oneness, and he teaches various ways to do this. So anyway, Christian G and I, over the years, have done a lot of fun things together. And this, about two years ago, we were having a conversation and he said, you, know, you teach secret to life is peak state versus lousy state or being energy rich versus energy poor, that a relationship, you can love somebody, but if the energy is low, it's not going to show up. The energy is high. Well, he said, what if you swap those words and you swap peak state for beautiful state? I said, that works. You know, high energy state is a beautiful state. Any state where your high energy would be like love or joy or gratitude or drive or courage or faith or playfulness or fun, any of those things are beautiful states. So he goes, yeah, yeah, I agree. And I said, and then suffering states would be low energy states. So that would be frustration, sadness, anger, resentment, loneliness, boredom, whatever. He goes, yeah, that's exactly right. I can swap those. He goes, if you swap them, there's something cool that you might see or do. I said, what's that question to you? And he said, Well, he said, I have made a decision that I'm going to live my life where I'm going to live in a beautiful state every day, no matter what, even if it rains on my parade, even if people do things that are unjust. And he said, the reason is because in a beautiful state, just like you teach a big state, everything flows. And I said, well, that's pretty much what I've been teaching. He goes, Yes, but if you think of the lousy states as suffering states, he said, then you can end suffering just by ending the states. And I said, I don't really relate to the word suffering. And I think most achievers do. Most achievers don't even get fearful. We get stressed. I always tell people, fear is the achiever word for stress. Because if I follow your stress, it'll take me to your fear. But I realized I didn't relate to suffering. Like if you had told me two years ago, Tony, do you suffer? I said, are you kidding me? I got the greatest life. I have the most incredible wife and four kids and I got 31 companies and I'm financially free and I have a mission I love and I'm in good health. And that would all be honest. I wouldn't have been dishonest about it. What really helped me out of that conversation, I left there and I went, well, where do I suffer? And I realized frustration is suffering and I get frustrated. I get concerned. I get pissed off. I get worried sometimes. I get these feelings. And so what I decided to do was just really create a 90-second rule for myself where I would end suffering as it arises because anybody tells you, you're going to end suffering is full of crap. The reason is your brain is a two million year old brain. It's not designed to make you happy. It's designed to make you you survive. But there's no saber-toothed tiger for you to react to anymore. So now we worry about what are.

People thinking of us?

Do I have enough money? And in this country, in America, if you are in utter poverty, and I hate poverty, I've eaten 100 million people a year, so I'm not sitting on the sidelines. But if you make the worst and the least amount of money in this country and you're in total poverty, you're in the 1% of earners on the earth, because 75% of planet lives on $2.50 a day. Right? Right. So what I try to do is show people you can't build on failure. You can only build on success. So over the last two years, what I've done is play this little 90-second rule. And if I feel tension in me, I go, okay, that's suffering. Where's it coming from? What am I stressed about? What am I concerned about? And what I immediately do is I realize the stressful thought, since I've seen Christian G. I kind of traded one thing. What I really do now is I dig in and I notice that the only time you have stress or suffer is when you believe a stressful thought. So what would be one or two of the most stressful thoughts that happen to you most often? Because we all have them, right? You can be an overachiever and still do it. So what would be two thoughts that show up a lot that make you stressed?

You know, something's not going well in my business or it's not the way I want it to look or be or, you know, someone on my team messed up and it makes me look a certain way or my, you know.

So there's a sense of loss. My sense of success.

Yes. My ego gets like, so what I.

Told Christian G is, I said, Christian G, I said, I think I found the three triggers to suffering. He goes, what's that? I said, It's loss, less never. Whenever you believe, your mind believes a stressful thought like, oh my God, my business is not going, or, oh, this guy screwed this up and now I've lost something. I've lost this opportunity or I've lost the time or I've lost the money or it cannot be someone else, it could be you. You could say, I failed to do this. I did something or I failed to do something and as a result, I've lost something I value. significance, trust, love, money, freedom, whatever. Or you said something or did something or failed to do something, or I failed to do something or say something, and I feel like I have less love or less money or less freedom, less will make yourself. The one that's worse is never. If you start believing that because she said that or she did that or because I failed to do this or I said that, I'll never have love again, I'll never be wealthy, I'll never be once you believe that shit, it's true because you won't initiate, you won't solve it, you won't create it. So I'm very sensitive to loss, less, never. Anything that triggers that and the antidote to it is to realize it's not you. So your thought of, God, you know, my business is stressful. Is this gonna, you know, I'm sure.

It'Ll make it, but a little more.

Part of you like, is this gonna make it? Or this guy screwed up and look, it screwed me out of all these things. When those things happen and you suffer, It puts you in a mode where you're really suffering about is yourself. And you were honest about it. Thank you for that. I saw you do it. You said, you know, while I was thinking this guy did this and it cost me this. It's the me-me-me that makes us suffer. When a woman will say, I'm really.

Worried about my children.

I'm really stressed. She's suffering about her children. And I'll say, Tell me. And she'll say, well, they're not doing this, not doing that. And I'll turn to her usually and say, I hope you can hear yourself because the real reason you're suffering is not because of your children. suffering. It's not because they're not doing well, it's because you think you failed them. It's about you. Because otherwise you'd just be working on the solution. But you're busy beating yourself up, feeling bad, thinking the worst case scenario, right? So the antidote to suffering, the antidote to loss, less never is appreciation. I always tell people, trade your expectation for appreciation. Your whole life changes. So I was just doing this talk here earlier and I shared with them experience and I'm fortunate enough to have my own private jet now, but it's a intercontinental jets. I can fly straight to China. It's bigger than a Gulfstream. It's a global express. So it's like having your own bed in the sky, office in the sky. It's amazing.

You filmed in there last time.

Oh, that's right. I forgot about that. So it's fun. So you got the sense of it. It's amazing. But up until that time, I was chartering. Yeah. But half my business was overseas and it's like, you know, $400,000 to fly to Australia and back on a Gulfstream. So it didn't make any sense. I finally did well enough to sell a couple companies, made a couple hundred million dollars, and I went and bought the plane. But before that, I would be so stressed getting on Qantas Airlines to fly to Australia. First class.

First class, real bad.

I would be so stressed because in my head I go, there's no internet. I'm cut off for 14 hours. I got 31 companies. I mean, I got this list of.

Calls and texts and slacks and emails.

And by the time I get there, it's going to triple in size. You're going to lose money. I'd be all stressed out, right? And then one day I asked myself, what the F is stressful about sitting? or lying when you got a bed, you know, even on a commercial flight like that in first class. And I realized what an idiot I was. But it still grabbed me. You'd still suffer. And I remember one of the last times it happened before I got my plane, ironically, they announced on the air, they said, ladies and gentlemen, we're proud to announce we have international internet. And it was like God descended in the airplane. We're all cheering, clapping. It's so wonderful, right? And. And then within about nine minutes, the thing broke down.

Oh man, yeah.

Everyone's out there. Everybody's pissed.

They're like, oh, this is bullshit.

I can't believe this. I'm not putting up with this. And I tell a story because nine minutes before it was a miracle. Now, after nine minutes, it's already an expectation. And when you have expectations, you're always miserable. I realized my happiness was so cheap because all I had to do was have this nearby and I could lose my happiness. because 31 companies, 1200 employees, you know, five continents, I think, yeah, five continents now, seven different... What are the chances that right now someone is screwing up something with that many employees and that many businesses?

100% chance.

100%, yeah. So all I had to do is wait and open up and find the piece there. I was like, I can't believe what the hell is the matter with him. See, I realized all I had to do is have my phone to be stressed. If that's true, my happiness is so cheap. Because what are the chances of everybody doing exactly what you think they should do the right way every day? Zero. Zero. What are the chances of the people you love doing what you want them to do the way you want to do them every day? Zero.

What are the chances of you doing.

The right thing every day even if you're talented and disciplined?

Zero.

Zero. So your happiness will never last as long as it's got expectation behind it. Don't get me wrong, I have businesses, I run them, we manage them. But I know that people are going to screw up or my idea of screw up is different than I think they should be. And sometimes their screw up will turn into something even better. I got to give it room. So what I did was I began to realize I made the decision, it's the most important decision I believe of your life, that I'm not going to suffer anymore. Life's too short to suffer and I'm going to live in a beautiful state every day. And the way I do it is I catch myself when I start to get that sense of stress. I let it go and I see the idea go by. So your thoughts, thoughts about this person messing up your business, they're not following through. If I was in a room with 10,000 people, I guarantee you 60-70% of the business owners have the same thoughts at times. I ask people all the time, Tell me your most stressful thought. Oh, I'm worried about my children. This may happen. How many people have had that thought? Everybody. I might not make it financially. How many have had that? Everybody. My point is, it's not your thought. It's the mind, not your mind. When you think it's your mind, you identify with it and you can't separate from yourself. But when you realize these thoughts have been around for millions of years and I'm just thinking the same thought that so many people thought before, like how many people have ever thought, I'm gonna kill the son of a bitch. Now you didn't do it because you didn't believe you're really gonna kill them. But you felt it, you said it, you were there, right? So we all have thoughts. It's only the stressful thoughts we believe that mess us up. So what I try to show people is if you can start to realize these thoughts have been around for millions of years. If I told you a million, you know, thousand or a hundred years ago that we're going to go to the moon and back, you called me a lunatic, a crazy. If I said a hundred years ago, you're going to have a little box like this, it'll fit in your pocket, and you can click on it and you can see what the weather is any place, you could click on it and see a live person on on the other side of the earth and talk to them by looking at this box. And the way it works is invisible.

Waves are traveling around the earth and.

It pulls invisible waves in the box. You go, read between the lines. There's no way, you dumb idiot, it's never going to happen. So what I want you to realize is thoughts are invisible waves. When you turn on a TV, it takes invisible waves and depending on the channel, you're going to see a love story or an adventure or a drama or a comedy or or horror, the.

Way you use your body determines which.

Of those thought waves come through you. One moment you're pissed off, the next moment somebody makes you laugh, you change your body, you change the channel, you change what comes through you. So what I've tried to do in this area, beautiful state is simple. First, identify where you're suffering, what's your favorite flavor? Are you a worrier? Are you a pissed off person? Angry. What is it you do? Second of all, decide you're going to kill that monster while it's little. You're not going to wait till it's Godzilla taking the city. You're going to break the pattern. you start to feel the stress, you see it as thoughts going by, and then you focus on something you appreciate, enjoy, or love. Appreciation, love, and joy destroy suffering. You can't be grateful and angry simultaneously. It's impossible. You can't be worried and fearful and grateful simultaneously. So I tell people gratitude is one of the emotions to cultivate that will destroy the suffering.

And that's what we teach people to do. David Haywood said, Do you really believe deep down that you made the choice to live the life you're living? Or did it choose you? And how do you rationalize choice when there is so much we don't get to choose?

Well, that's a good question. I have chosen very consciously what I want for my life, and I continue to choose. I really believe that our Creator has given us choice, and those that look at their life and say, It's not the way they want it and blame God, are barking up the wrong tree. The resources are inside of us. that's number one. But I'd say number two, this idea that, you know, rationalizing choice. I don't rationalize choice. I know it's one of the great gifts in my life and I can make it any moment. So can you. The one power we have is the decision to change anything. You don't like your relationship, change it. Change you first or change it. You don't like your body, change it. You don't like your finances. Any one of us can change it.

We live in a world that's filled with answers.

You got a web where you can learn from anybody on the planet now. You got access to them.

You know?

So I don't see it as like rationalizing choice. I think that mindset reveals limitations in the person asking the question. I'm not being derogatory to that person. I'm grateful for the question. But I want you to know if you're listening that, you know, if I asked all those watching, we all have patterns and I'm a student of patterns. The way I can make changes in minutes for people that were stuck for years or athletes, I've turned around and developed great man of fame around and, you know, the, the Quincy Jones is the world, the, you know, the pit bulls, the Serena Williams, the things that I've done with all these people they rave about are because I know that whatever you focus on, you're going to feel. So I'll just give you one example for the person asked this question and for anybody listening. Yeah, there's, I'll give you three patterns real fast so you can check yourself out for a moment. So one pattern is a focus. Do you tend to focus more on what you have or what's missing? I'm asking your listeners right now and you, what do you tend to focus on? what you have or what's missing?

What I have.

What you have.

Great.

When I ask this in a room, usually about 70% are focused on what's missing. Most achievers are focused on what's missing so they can go out and achieve more, right? Nothing wrong with that. But when you stack these patterns together, it's really hard to be happy when you're constantly focused on what's missing. There's a time where it's missing so you go to work. But if you do it all the time, you can be achieving a ton like some of these billionaires and they're still mostly saying what's missing and so they're not happy. Another pattern would be, do you tend to focus on what you can control or what you can't control?

From me, can.

Yeah, and I know that's true with you. The majority of people is what they can't control. Now, if you focus on what's missing all the time and what you can't control, you're going to be depressed. I don't care if you take Prozac or Zoloft or anything else. Your depression is not a Zoloft deficiency. It is the fact that you were doing something in your mind that is producing that depression. you constantly focus on what's missing and what you can't control and look at a third one. Do you tend to focus more on things in the past, the present or the future? I know you do all three. We all do all three, but which one for you would you say you spend more of your time on? Past, present or future?

Well, my old self would say the past and the future. Now after going to One World Academy, I'm very present and future.

There's no right or wrong. The past, you can't do anything about it, so the more you focus there, unless you're learning something from it, It's pretty much a waste. The present is where the joy is. The future is how you do business, right? So you anticipate. So it's the ability to do this. But if you have someone whose pattern is focusing on what's missing, focusing on.

What it can't control, focus on the.

Past, you can give them, I've seen it, I've dealt with people like that who are suicidal. I come in, they've got every drug, they're taking every antidepressant, and they're still depressed. In fact, I'll ask an audience this all the time, how many of you know somebody who takes antidepressants and still depressed? 90% of them will raise their hand. I know people. You know people, I'm sure people at home do. Well, why are they still depressed if they're taking antidepressant? Because all the antidepressant does is numb you, but they're still focusing what's missing, they're still focused on what they can't control, they're still focused on past or present that's not the way they wanted to be or making up a future that's scary. Well, you're gonna be depressed no matter what unless you take control of those factors. So the answer to this question is, I don't see it as a rationale, I see it as a gift. Choice is a gift. It's always there. You can choose what you focus on and what you focus on is what you're going to experience. You can focus on things that make you suffer, you can focus on things that make you grateful. And of the two, gratitude is the better approach. It's not some man-b-pam-bi positive thinking approach. It's intelligent because when you're in a good state, you can solve the problem 10 times better. I used to convince myself that if I'm suffering, if I'm pissed, I'm 10 times smarter, my brain goes faster and it does.

You know what I also found?

10 times smarter when I'm not stressed. And I also enjoy my life. Your body doesn't hurt.

Your mind doesn't ache. And everybody else, you're able to reach them. If you're looking for more ways to.

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If you discipline someone properly, they become disciplined, right?

That means they're competent.

They're organized.

They have structure. They can control themselves. So I'll give you an example.