"TRAIN Your Brain To MAKE MORE MONEY In 30 Days!" (Law Of Vibration)| Bob Proctor

Bob Proctor explains how repetition rewires your brain to earn more money. He emphasizes studying the same material daily, using goal cards and gratitude, and distinguishes between the six mental faculties that shape self-image. Proctor argues schools teach money management, not earning, and that the law of vibration links thoughts and attraction.
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Well, the earning of money is an exact science. It's governed by law. The amount of money you earn is in direct ratio to the need for what you do, your ability to do it, and the difficulty there is in replacing you. We've got to learn how to earn money, and most people don't know how to earn money. Most people think you go to work to earn money. I think you've got to have a dream.
The School of Greatness. Really?
Yeah.
Please welcome Lewis Howes. If you could share or reveal some of the shocking habits that you've noticed from some of the biggest performers in the world on how they've been able to handle adversity and thrive. What the difference is between the ones who have been successful during a challenging time of adversity for the world, what are the habits of those people thriving versus the other people that maybe who were successful but fell off a little bit over the last year? What would you say are some of those habits that differentiate the successful during challenging times?
Well.
It'S really obvious, you know, the law of the animal kingdom is adapt or die. And if you let the outside world control you, you're toast. Because when anything goes wrong, it's in control. When you control from the inside, like we're in control of ourself, we're in control of our world. So it doesn't matter what happens, you figure out how to get to where you're going. The goals don't change, sometimes the methods of getting there do, but I have never, I think probably I had great teachers. I had a half a dozen phenomenal mentors, and I think I was raised the right way. You stay in control regardless.
Yeah.
What would you say are some of the habits that you have that people wouldn't expect that you would have. Maybe they would expect certain things like waking up early or journaling or, you know, getting eight hours of sleep. But what are some habits that you do differently that maybe are unexpected in the personal growth space?
I study every day. Every day. I've studied every day now for 60 years. I started to study this book in 1961. and I read it every day. Same book, Think and Grow Rich. I have just here behind me, I've got the Laws of Success, the original ones that Napoleon Hill wrote in 1928. And then he came up with this in 1937. And the man that gave it to me, he said, if you'll study this every day, he said, you,'re going to have a wonderful life. And he pointed out, Napoleon Hill spent his whole life studying the lives of 500 of the world's most successful people. He was mentored by Andrew Carnegie, who at the time was the wealthiest man in the world. And he said, since he spent his whole life putting this together, he said it would be a prudent move on your part if you spent the rest of your life trying to understand and apply what he was teaching. And you know, that just seemed to make some sense to me. And that's what I started to do, and I've never stopped.
If there was only one principle inside of Think and Grow Rich that you could only live by and only talk about, and you wouldn't be able to talk about anything else inside the book, what would that one principle be?
Persistence. He said in the book, he said, There may be no heroic connotation to the word, but the quality is to the character of the human, like what carbon is to steel. See, I think the trick, Louis, is get some good habit patterns and live with them all of your life. Because you're either going to grow or you're going to die. It's create or disintegrate. There's no such thing as leveling out and staying where we are. And some people think they can just hold it where they're at, but they can't do that. You're either going to go ahead or you're going to go backwards. It's create or disintegrate. and so if you have good habits, you're going to keep growing. Way back, I think around 1938-39, Albert E. N. Gray worked for the Prudential and he wrote the Common Denominator of Success. It's a great article. And he said, the common denominator of success is informing the habit of doing things that failures don't like to do. And he was speaking one time, a young guy said, why do successful people like doing these things? And he said, they don't. That's why they've turned them into habits. I thought that was beautiful. That's why they've turned them into habits. They don't like doing them. You see? And of course, a habit.
What do you think?
Well, a habit is something we do automatically without any conscious thought. We just, it's part of our paradigm. We're programmed.
What do you think are the three most difficult habits to develop that actually will support us for the most growth long term if we can take these habits on?
One of the things I think the most difficult is repetition of studying the same thing. I have a, A book here on my desk. It's in a book holder.
And.
When I went to visit Earl Nightingale way back, 1968, no, it was earlier than that, it was around '66. And I saw he had this book stand on his desk and I asked him what it was. He said it was a book holder. And I said, why do you have it? He says, I want to read those two pages. every day for the next month, maybe two months. I said, Really? The same thing. And he said, yeah. He said, Then they'll become a part of me. And he said, that's really the secret of success is repetition of an idea. You see that in sports, you play ball. I mean, it's definitely part of your game, you know. How many plays would you have in your head? Whoo.
Well, a lot of different plays, but in football, there's really only like nine different routes a receiver can run.
Yeah.
That's part of the tree of running a route. But there's so many different variations within plays that that one receiver could run, and then another person could run in tandem with that.
Yeah.
So you have to, there's a massive playbook that you go through at the beginning of the season, and you've got to remember a lot of different things. But if you typically know the route you need to run and what other people are doing around you, then you can figure it out.
But it's repetition that enables you to do that, isn't it?
Over and over and over and over and over. You see the same route over and over.
That doesn't just apply to football. I think that applies to life. And if a person really understands that, it's through repetition that you program your subjective mind. and it's your subjective mind that controls your behavior. It doesn't make sense to some people, but if they would study it and start to understand it, they would start to do it.
What's the most important thing on those two pages that you have open in front of you?
Most important thing here, read it to you. The lesson to be learned from the practical aviation of the present day is that of triumph of principle over precedent. of working out of an idea to its logical conclusion in spite of the accumulated testimony of all past experiences to the contrary. With such a notable example before us, can we say that it is futile to inquire whether by the same method we may not unlock still more important secrets and gain some knowledge of the unseen causes which are the back of external and visible conditions. And then by bringing these unseen causes into a better order, make practical working reality of possibilities which at present seem but fantastic dreams. They're talking about the Wright brothers. He said there was a secret they got off the ground because nobody knew how to fly. And neither did they until after they got it in the air. But he pointed out that it was principle over precedent. And we let precedent control us too often.
What's the difference between principle and precedent?
Well, precedent, you're letting something that has happened in the past control you. The principle is that there's always a better way. It doesn't matter what you're doing, better is a beautiful word.
What's something in your life that took a long time where you were holding on to the precedent of something for a while? Maybe it was months, maybe it was years, decades that eventually the principle finally started to fly and you had a breakthrough. Is there an area of your life you can think of?
Oh, absolutely, absolutely. Just as soon as you said it, yeah. you see, when I started in this, when I first got this book.
I.
Was such a loser. And I mean, in every, everywhere you look at it, I. I went to high school for two months, and I didn't quit. They kicked me out. They didn't want me there. And I was kind of happy because I didn't like it there anyway. I held dumb jobs. I never had a half decent job. The idea that I could even get a good job never entered my mind. I had such low self-esteem. I didn't understand that at the time. I didn't even know what self-esteem was. And letting go of the fact that I didn't have a formal education, that I never had any business experience.
The.
Man that gave me the book, he said, none of that matters, Bob. That's the past. He said, let it go. Well, I had a difficult time letting that go because we're programmed that if you don't go to school, you can't get a good job. That if you're going to earn a lot of money, you've got to be really smart. Well, you see, I didn't think I was very smart and I didn't have any formal education. That's a hard thing to let go of. But through the repetition of studying this over and over and over, and as he pointed out to me, Edison had grade three, and he pointed out different people that had no formal education. And I finally made a break, left it behind. I'm not quite sure exactly when.
But.
I let it go.
What would you say are some deciding factors that can help someone with their self-esteem? Because you and I are very similar where my childhood, I didn't have much confidence in myself or esteem because I was in the bottom of my class in school because I was had tutors and special needs classes because I just wasn't able to understand it and comprehend that well and felt awkward and goofy in my life. What are some things you think people that in their teens or even in their 40s and 50s who don't have confidence yet, what are the things we can be doing differently to gain confidence, to build self-esteem? Because I think this is one of the key factors of success is believing in yourself. It doesn't matter if the world believes in you if you don't believe in you. What can we start to do to change that?
Well, I think a person has to start to study themselves. Most people know very little about themselves. They think they're their body. You're not a body. You have a body and you have a marvelous mind. And when I first started to study this, I thought, you know, studying the mind, that's for psychiatrists, psychologists, behavioral scientists. And the man that told me, he said, no, it's not. He says, that's for anybody. that's for little kids. And so I think as we start to understand something about our mind and something about our higher faculties, see we're all programmed to live through our senses. We go by what we see, hear, smell, taste, touch. Well, I've got a little dog at home that you can see here, smell, taste, touch. All the animals in the world, they're completely at home in their environment. They blend in. You operate by instinct, which is perfect. We had instinct removed and we had higher faculties put in their place. And if we would study these and gain an understanding, your self-image would automatically start to improve. You have perception, the will, reason, imagination, memory and intuition. those six faculties will give you the ability to create your own environment. See, we're totally disoriented in our environment, where all the other little creatures are completely at home in theirs. And we're disoriented in ours because we can create our own, but we don't know that. School doesn't teach us that. School is more interested in the the development of your intellect than in the development of awareness. A person doesn't earn $100,000 a year because they want 100 a year. They earn 100 a year because they're not aware of how to earn 100 a month. Awareness is really the key. And when we become aware of who we are and what we've got working for us, you know, marvelous things start to happen to us. And that's really what happened to me. I never went back to school.
I.
I built a very successful company. It operates all over the world. I didn't do myself. I have tremendous team of people. I've got a. just an absolute genius of a business partner, a woman who's an attorney. I mentioned to you before, you should have her on sometime. You'd be fascinated with her. She's that interesting. But it was a group of people. We've attracted a phenomenal group of people in our company, and we're operating now in 91 countries.
Wow.
Teaching this information. I don't know another company that teaches what we teach. Like I think Tony Robbins has probably done more for our industry than any individual. The secret has probably done more for it as much as Tony has, the movie. But there's, I don't know anybody else teaching what we're teaching. And what we're really doing is teaching people how their mind functions and.
How.
To expand their understanding of how it operates.
What are the six faculties again? You shared this before, which I love, and I think if people really understood this, Perception. Help them build their self.
There's perception, the will, imagination, memory, reason, and intuition.
Which one is the hardest for people to...
I don't think any of them are...
Awareness.
They're all equally valuable. You take your imagination... Think of this for a minute, Louis. Nothing is created or destroyed. Look here. Here's a little cell phone. What you can do with this almost blows your mind when you think of it. Well, when I was a kid, we didn't have a phone. We didn't have a phone because we didn't have any money for the first reason. But the second, not everybody could have a phone. We were not aware that there was an infinite number of frequencies. Today, there's, what a zillion phones, because there's an infinite number of frequencies. This phone is on its own frequency. Yours, it's on its own frequency. If I have your number in here, and I hit send, you and I connect, we're on the same frequency. Won't matter where you are, we can see each other, we can communicate, because we get on the same frequency. Well, the good that we desire is already here. It's on a frequency. The way to build this has always been here. We weren't aware of it. But somebody took their imagination and went off into no place. What they were really doing is going on to a higher frequency. And if you'll stay on that frequency, you'll attract everything that you require. That's why Dr. Wernher von Braun, when President Kennedy asked him what it would take to build a rocket that would carry a man to the moon and then bring him back safely to earth. Von Braun said the will to do it. The will is the mental faculty that gives you the ability to hold one idea on the screen of your mind to the exclusion of all outside distractions. See, if you take your imagination Do it. You have goals. Take your imagination and then take yourself there. See yourself already have completed the goal. And then hold that picture with your will. When you go there with your imagination, there is a place. Whatever it is you want, you went there with your imagination, there is a place. You stay there in your imagination. you will attract everything that's required for the manifestation of that picture. You saw Brady doing it last Sunday.
Yeah, it's a machine.
Yeah.
Absolutely phenomenal.
So holding the imagination, the picture that you want in your mind and then attracting it on the steps to get.
Yeah, you see? We don't work toward the goal, we work from the goal. You get the goal in your mind. Our problem is we measure everything on the physical. And you look at the physical and you say, well, I haven't got it yet. If you think your conscious mind, if you get an image there of your goal, you've already got it intellectually. if you didn't have it, you couldn't share it with me, but if you have it, you can share it with me. You can share with me the idea that you've got in your mind. So you've already got it there, haven't you?
Right.
As you get emotionally involved with that idea, you've got it also on an emotional level. You've got it there. You've got it intellectually, you've got it emotionally. The only place you haven't got it is physically. Now, there's a period of time must elapse for that idea that you have intellectually and emotionally for that idea to move into physical form. We understand how much time. Pardon?
How much time does it usually take?
We don't know. We don't know. That's the only thing we don't know is the gestation period for an idea. We know what the gestation period is for wheat. We know what it is for a carrot. We know what it is for a baby. Moment of conception is about 280 days. We didn't always know these things, but we do now. We don't know what the gestation period is for a spiritual seed, and that's what an idea is. But it grows by exactly the same law. And so if we hold that idea in our mind, it must by law manifest in form. It moves into form. Now that is called the perpetual transmutation of energy. It's one of the laws of the universe.
Wow. There was something that you shared.
Just.
A moment ago that reminded me of an interview I did with Joe Dispenza recently where he said we're really good at remembering the past and actually building a story in our mind about something traumatic that was actually way worse in our mind than it actually probably was in person. We're really good at remembering these stories. But what we need to do, he said, is to remember the future. And when he said that, it kind of triggered something different. It's like what you just shared. It's like have an idea of the future, of what we want to manifest and hold on to that idea and remember the memories of the future as opposed to holding on to the memories of the past. So we can move into that. It's supposed to be stuck in the past.
That's totally true. That's what that is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's, that's hard.
Why is it so hard? Why is it hard for us to hold on to, or maybe not hold on to, but keep in our minds and imagine the idea of a greater future for us as opposed to constantly being stuck in the past? Why is that hard for so many of us?
Because we're programmed to go the other way. You know, what language do you speak?
I barely speak English.
How about Russian?
Privyet, cagada la. That's all I know.
Well, the point is you were raised with the English language.
Yes.
You don't know another language. I was raised with the English language. I don't know another language. I was working with people over in Kuala Lumpur a number of years ago and they had a little boy four years old. That little boy could speak four languages. They thought nothing of that. There's people speak many more than four languages because that's the way they're raised. We're the product of our environment from the time we're born. But prior to that, genetically we're programmed. You're genetically programmed from the moment of conception. You get all mom's DNA and all dad's DNA. And God knows how far it goes back on either side. Well, that is programming. That's in our subconscious mind.
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That'S called a paradigm. That's what it is. It's a program in our subconscious mind. Now here's the crazy part. You have programs in your phone or in your computer. The people that write the code for these programs are really smart when it comes to writing code. They really know what the hell they're doing. The people that wrote the code for our biocomputer had no idea what the hell they were doing. They don't. They did not. They were writing a code for my subconscious mind and for yours, that's our paradigm, and that probably controls our life to an enormous degree. It did with me until I was 26. Now I was fortunate When I met Ray Stanford, he got me into the Think and Grow Rich book and that led me into God knows what else. I have been working at changing that program since I was 26. I'm 86 right now. So I've been at it for a long time and I work at it every day. Most people don't even know that they have the problem. So they stay stuck their whole life. Listen, you interview some pretty interesting people. I watched the interview here a billionaire a while ago.
Which one?
I forgot. I forgot who it was.
Anyway, Ray Dalio, Charles Koch, it was.
A pretty interesting interview anyway. But the point is, anybody can become a billionaire if that's what you want to do. You say, well, wouldn't everybody? No, everybody wouldn't. I wouldn't want to put all my energy into that. Now, does that mean I don't want money? No, hell, I earn all kinds of money. And I probably want to earn more, but that's not my focus. We are programmed to live a certain way. And rarely do we change that. Now I change it and I teach people to change it, but most people don't. Stop and think of how few people are really well off, three, four, five percent maximum, if that. And 95% are struggling. And some of these are really bright people. You've got people that have a, a doctorate degree in commerce and finance, and they're broke. How the hell could that happen? Well, they never learned how to earn money. They learned how to count it, invest it, and what to do with it. They never learned how to earn it. School doesn't teach us how to earn money. It's absurd when you stop and think about it. They teach us all kinds of stuff. A lot of it's useless, but they don't teach us about how to earn money. And money is the medium of exchange. negotiable all over the world, you know?
Yeah.
What do you think of the programs or the programming that hold us back the most? Maybe the two or three things that.
Well, we were talking about earlier, the self-image that's programming.
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I have a little great-granddaughter and her mother and father. are really fascinating. I'm watching them how they treat this little girl. It is fascinating. Her name is Nora, and if they do anything, they'll say, Thank you, Nora. Nora, that is really good. I mean, this kid, I think, is going to grow up with just a phenomenal self-image. Now, they have been studying this all their life, and now they've got a little baby, and watch the two of them working with her, it's phenomenal. you know, but I think self-esteem has to be one of the biggest problems. That's not really taught in school. It's not taught in many homes. You take and get into. Into any of the sports leagues. They don't teach much about the subconscious mind. The subconscious mind is controlling how well you play the game.
What is the thing that's been on repeat for you every single morning to help program your subconscious mind in your favor? Is there a thing you say? Is there a mantra? Is there meditation? Is there a practice that helps reprogram in a positive way?
I have a goal card. Carry a goal card with me all the time. My goal is on the card. I touch that. When you have a goal and you write your goal, you paint a picture with words. Your goal is a picture in your mind and you paint the picture with words. When you're writing it, you impregnate it into a group of cells in your brain. When I carry this in my pocket, when I touch it, sensory factor touches affected, it's a light message goes flying through my body and it resonates with those cells in my brain and the picture comes on the screen in my mind. this is a ritual. I've been doing this since 1961.
Wow. What's.
What.
What's on your gold card before I get to the next thing?
I want to do $100 million in business.
Wow.
We don't do that now. I'm doing it in here, but physically, I haven't got there. this is Sandy's goal, and it's my goal. And we both got the card signed. It's written in present tense. All your goals should be in present tense. The only thing you put a date on is you're guessing at the date. You don't know what the date is.
So what's. What's the second. The next thing you do to help reprogram your mind and your 10 things.
I'm grateful for every morning.
You read it.
I write it. Read it. Write it. Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay. What does gratitude do for someone when they feel stuck, when they feel overwhelmed, stressed, their goals aren't happening fast enough?
Well, gratitude is an interest. It's an interesting question. The way you asked the question in the science of getting rich in chapter seven, Wallace D. Wattles wrote, The chapter on gratitude in Energy said the entire process of mental adjustment and atonement can be summed up in one word, gratitude. The entire process of mental adjustment, if you're troubled, and it could go wrong, but you're troubled, you've got a big problem, you're just not quite sure how to solve it, it's bothering you. might be something personal or it could be business. Whenever you feel yourself troubled, that's a mental problem. The entire process of mental adjustment, you need a mental adjustment. Sit down, write out what you're grateful for. You'd be amazed what it does to you. The entire process of mental adjustment and atonement can be summed up in one word, gratitude. Gratitude hooks you up to your source of supply. It opens a channel for good to come into your life. You cannot feel bad when you're thinking of what you're grateful for. It's funny, problems just sort of melt, go away. It's like some kind of mental magic. It's better than magic. There's a creative writer I got a mental block on a guy's name and I should remember it because it's such a great thing he said. I've worked around magicians. If I've ever worked conventions, periodically they'll have, if there's a magician working at the convention too, they'll get me to work some kind of a trick with them. So he's got to tell the trick to somebody. So I'm the guy and I've learned all kinds of how these magnificent tricks work. And he said, when you learn how magic works, it's not magic anymore. But he said, when you learn how your mind works, it's real magic. Yeah, that's what I said.
So what's another thing that you do to help reprogram your subconscious mind?
I consciously think of how I can help people. if I'm in between particular tasks that I'm working on, I'll think of somebody I can do something for. I'm always thinking on how to help somebody else. Emerson said that the law of cause and effect is the law of laws. Whatever you put out comes back. Well, if you go around doing enough good, you don't have to worry about what's going to happen to you. It's going to be good. And that's really pretty well how I spend my life.
And I know no one's perfect, me included. And I know even though you've studied this for so long, I'm sure you still have missteps or challenges or your mind goes back into a place of a negative way of thinking. What is the biggest challenge you face with today, even though you've studied this, even though you put these things into practice, even though you're successful, what is that big challenge that you face, Bob?
I get caught up in the minutiae and the noise that's going on around us, you know, the negative news that we hear. I'll get caught up in it every now and then, and I know it's stupid and I shouldn't, and so when I realize what I'm doing, I'll get away from it. But I do it. I've often mentioned if we just work at getting rid of our bad habits, some of our bad habits we don't want to get rid of, we enjoy them. But that's really the secret is replace a bad habit with something that's essentially the opposite. And you take a double jump ahead. Because you're not going to get rid of the bad one, you've added a good one. you know?
Right, right. I, I had the chance to interview Rhonda Byrne on the show a few months ago, and, and I was doing some research beforehand, and I hadn't seen an interview of her in over a decade online. And either I was bad at researching or I just, she hasn't put herself out there. So I was really excited to have her on. And some of the stuff she was sharing was, was amazing. We were talking about you offline and how much she appreciates your message and your work and your contribution to the Secret. I'm curious if you could sum up the Law of Attraction in one phrase. What is that idea of the Law of Attraction for people if they're still not sure on it?
Well, oddly enough, the Secret, I think, led some people down the wrong path with the Law of Attraction in that we didn't take the time or never got into it in depth. The law of attraction is a secondary law. And most people talk about it as a the law of attraction. It's a law. Well, it is, but it's a secondary law. And a lot of people are left with the idea. You just think about it, you'll attract it. Well, that is a bunch of nonsense. That's not true at all. You do attract what you think about, but Your thought patterns control the vibration you're in. Vibration is a basic law of the universe. The law of vibration decrees everything moves, nothing rests. The walls around you are moving. If you go and look at them through a microscope, you'll see them move and the body in a coffin is moving. It's, if it wasn't moving, how would it ever change to dust? The law of vibration decrees that everything moves. We literally live in an ocean of motion. Well, your mind and body is in a vibration and that's controlled by your thoughts. You activate cells in your brain, your mind activates cells, that sets up a vibration in the mind and body, and the vibration you set up is going to dictate what you attract. If you're troubled and you're in a bad mood, you're going to attract bad stuff to you, you're on a negative frequency. So as long as you stay in that bad vibration, you're going to attract some more bad stuff, it's just going to keep coming. and you see it happening all the time to people. It's in the Bible.
It's probably like when you're not feeling good and you just want more ice cream or pizza, you want bad things to make you feel good as opposed to, let me have a healthy salad when I'm down. It's not what we're thinking.
Well, you see, the trick is really to keep yourself feeling good. Feeling is conscious awareness of vibration. The vibration is the basic law and if you stay feeling good and a good vibration, you're going to attract good stuff. You just magnetize yourself to stuff that's good. There's very few people really understand the law of vibration. Everybody is utilizing it every day, all day. You are attracting what you're in harmony with.
-How do we put ourselves in a state of feeling good when there's nothing to feel good about?
-Well, there's always something. -For people maybe. -Listen.
-They'Re stressed about the world, they're stressed about their job, they're stressed about their health, their family, relationship breakups. How do they change the feeling to feel good when they're in an environment of stress?
There's a law called polarity. The law of polarity decrees everything has an opposite. You couldn't have an up without a down, a hot without a cold. You can't have a bad without a good. If you're looking at bad, that tells you there's got to be good. You cannot have bad without good. And if you want to feel good, start looking for what's good. And if you start looking for what's good, you're going to find it. you're going to find whatever you're looking for. And the idea to say, well, you really can't, there's so much bad going on, that attitude is not going to reward you at all. It's going to give you bad stuff. You've got to know that there's always something good. You've got to find it.
Why is it so hard for people to see the good when there's so much chaos around them.
Because they're so programmed the wrong way. They're really programmed the wrong way. We're programmed for bad news. You don't find a good news news station. You don't have good news. People wouldn't advertise, they wouldn't go there. People are attracted to bad news because they're in a bad vibration themselves. and when they start to understand that and then realize they can control it and change it, that's when they'll start winning. See, that's where I was. I was in a bad vibration. Everything was bad. There was nothing good. I mean, I just had one hell of a life up till I was 26. There was nothing good about it at all. And when I was 26, I met a guy that got me on this book and he started to Give me some effective education. And my whole life changed. My income went from $4,000 a year to $175,000 a year in a year. Washing floors. First thing he wanted to know, he wanted me to write my goal on a card. He said, what do you really want? I said, all I want is some money. I figured if I had some money, all my problems would go away. I owed everybody and his brother money. And they're always phoning me, where's the money? Where's the money? And I said, God, if I knew where the money was, you wouldn't have to phone me. And I'd get upset with them for phoning me. And so I said, I want $25,000. If we had taken, if we had taken all the money in the neighborhood where I lived, you wouldn't have found $25,000. I mean, this was, it was an absurd goal.
And.
What he said, write it on the card and read it often. And what happened, it's only in retrospect that I became aware of what happened. Because I kept reading it, he said, like he said to me, you, way is not working. Try mine. Mine way is working. He was happy, healthy, wealthy, this guy. So I kept reading this, and what happened is it got me thinking of earning money. Now, prior to that, I wasn't, I was thinking of debt. All I was thinking about is debt, I owe this money, I owe that money, they're all phoning me. And since I was thinking about it, I started to hear people talking about it. And I remember this guy saying, there's good money cleaning floors. I said, I'm not proud, I don't clean floors. In five years, I was cleaning floors in Toronto, Montreal, Boston, Cleveland, London, England.
I mean, I was having a hell of a time. you know.
Got to change the program.
Yeah.
One of the things that I stopped doing many years ago when I had no money is I stopped. I. I got rid of my TV for a few years because I found myself being, you know, caught and just consuming a lot of news or just shows that weren't really supporting me because I was sitting there as opposed to creating inaction, doing something to. to help me earn more, to generate what I was looking for and to work on my health and wellness, my relationships, everything, not just money. And after a few years, I didn't miss the TV and I started making more money than ever. And I was in great shape and all these different things happened. And today I have TV now. I mean, I watch Netflix, I watch sports mostly, but I don't watch the news. It's very rare if I watch the news. And I get criticized for this sometimes from people. because they're like, well, you should be aware of what's happening in the world. You should be educated. You should be, you know, mindful, all these things. And I, I was, I live in a building here in Los Angeles, and they have a big TV in kind of the, in a general room where people can walk in. And I went in there the other day and I sat down and sipped some coffee. And literally in this massive TV screen, they had four different news channels up at once, kind of splitting the screen in four parts. and for 20 minutes, all they were showing on the news screens, all four channels was just this bombing and this is happening here in India and this is happening in the US and the rioting and all of it just was chaos. And I was just like, man, if I sat here and watched this every single day, my mind would be chaotic because I'm consuming chaos. And like you talk about, it's changing the frequency. It's turning the channel off and getting into a different frequency is what we need to do and not consume that. We can still be aware of it. You know, I don't want to live in a world where I don't know what's happening, but I don't need to watch it all day to still be aware of it. Isn't that right?
You know, I think anything that, that's, I don't know, very important that, you know, you'll, you'll overhear it in conversation. You don't have to watch the news to get it. You're going to get it. Somebody's going to tell you. So I agree, you know. It's a waste of time sitting there soaking all that up because it does you no good and it does you a lot of harm.
It does a lot of harm.
When I was saying to you, it makes you feel bad. If you feel bad, feeling is a word we invented to describe our conscious awareness of the vibration we're in. When you are feeling bad, you're in a negative vibration. When you're feeling good, you're in a positive vibration. That's just a basic thing that we could go by. So how do you feel good? Well, there's all kinds of ways to feel good. Think of something really pleasant. You'll start feeling good. Do something kind for somebody. You'll start to feel better. Help somebody out somewhere. You'll start to feel good. Share a good idea. You'll start to feel good. When you're feeling good, you're in a good vibration, you're going to attract good stuff to you. Most people don't understand that feeling is conscious awareness of vibration and the vibration you're in is dictating what you're going to attract.
Ooh.
It's a basic thing, it's so basic, but it's not understood.
It's hard for people to change the way they feel because they get, I feel like they get trapped in it. They're like, no, this is how I'm feeling. It takes them days to get out of it until they go to sleep, wake up, and maybe that resets the programming because they got some sleep. I don't know, but I feel like, and I've been there many times in my past where I would hold on to things for weeks, months and hold on to the negative feelings. So I get it. I've been there, but it's so much better when you can shift it faster or just be aware of it. And I'm not saying don't feel grief and sadness and anger and frustration. These were all feelings we probably should have a balance of feeling, but don't hold on to them. I feel like that's what hurts us in the long run when we hold it on to those feelings.
Yeah.
Because I'm sure you still feel angry and upset and let down and sad at times, right?
You know, I don't get angry.
That's good.
I can't remember the last time I got angry. I may be. not very pleased with people sometimes, but I don't get angry.
No, I really- you- might be disappointed.
I used to get angry. I used to have a hell of a temper. I had red hair too. I think red hair have bad tempers. That's what they say. Well, it was true with me. I can't remember the last time I was angry. I just decided it was a really silly waste of energy, you know?
What do you think shifted for you in deciding that?
Oh, there's no question about what shifted, it's the studying. You know, you study, if you study the right material, you're raising your level of awareness and people that are angry all the time are on a pretty low vibration. They're not really very with it, you know.
So how long were you angry for in your life? How many? how many years did it take to-.
Oh well, until you finally said.
40, 50, 60, how old- I was probably.
I'd probably be 60. 60.
And how young are you now, Bob?
I'm 86.
You look great, man. I hope I look as healthy and young as you at 86.
Well, I'm still going strong. I have no intentions of slowing down.
It's amazing.
So it's probably, you know, it was probably up around 60 when I, I think I eliminated it, you know, as I was going along and I realized, I think I got to the point where I realized just how silly it is to get angry. And you start to see other people getting angry. You think, why are you doing that? You know, they feel justified. Where do you Yeah.
Where do you think you'd be if you let go of anger at 40? Where do you think you'd be in your life now?
Further ahead than I am.
Really?
I don't really know where, but oh yes. There's a tremendous amount of energy that's wasted in anger. It's a dumb waste of energy.
Why do you think we Get angry.
We don't learn to control our anger.
What is in our mind?
You know, if a person would take, do you have a little book, As a Man Thinketh?
I've had it before, but I think you actually sent me one, but I might have given it away.
I'm going to send you another one.
Yeah, yeah, I might have it, but yeah.
Yeah.
If you take the last chapter in As a Man Thinketh, It's on serenity. You start reading that and you read it every day. If you wrote it out every day, I often have people write it every day for 90 days. It changes your life. It starts off calmness of mind as one of the beautiful jewels of wisdom. It's the result of long and patient effort in self-control. You see, anger is when we're not in control of ourself. We're letting something outside take over. You're letting another person or a situation maybe a flat tire control your being. You know, the tire's flat, so the tire's flat, so what the hell? Get it fixed, you know. But we let stuff control us. we've got to stay in control.
I want to ask you about money and relationships. You've been around the block a long time. You've seen a lot, you've met a lot of people, you've had many different relationships in your life. How important is it to have Alignment around money mindset when you're in an intimate relationship with your intimate partner or a business partner. What conversation should we be having around money to make sure that the partner we're in business or life with is going to support us as opposed to be a, you know, kind of thorn in the side of energy? if you will.
Well, I think money plays a very, very big role in our life. We should control the money. We should never let money control us. I love earning it. I love giving it away, too. If you're in a relationship, Understanding money in the relationship plays a very big role. You can't have one person with a, let's say, a poverty consciousness and another one with a prosperity consciousness and expect to have harmony and that relationship is just not going to be there. Because there's too many things where money comes involved in decision making and conversations. And if you're not on the same page, There's trouble in River City, you know, in the music mania. And that's just the way it is. So I think it's very important. But the truth is not many people understand money. Very few. You know, I was mentioning my business partner, Sandy Gallagher. She was a securities attorney. When I first met her, she came to a seminar and she ended up being my business partner. She owns 50% of the company and she's the CEO of the company. She runs it. But she's a damn genius when it comes to money. I have a pad here where I write things I'm grateful for. The very top thing, Sandy's financial genius. That's number one. in my gratitude list every day. I've earned millions and millions of dollars, but it wasn't until she became a business partner about 15 years ago, I.
Guess.
That everything in my life changed with money because she knew how to manage it. And if you don't know how to manage it, you're not gonna do very well. Yeah.
How do we first manage it in our minds and not let ourselves become afraid of it or hoard it or-.
Well, that's where it's got to start. It's got to start. Everything starts in the mind. US Anderson said, Thought is the preamble to everything. He said, When we fully realize that thought causes all, we'll know there's never any limits that we ourselves don't impose. Everything starts in thought. So if you want order with money, it starts here. Relationship starts here. Your business starts here. It all starts in your mind. And the problem is, Louis, hardly anybody understands the mind. And it's something that can be understood. I, oddly enough, I teach it to psychiatrists. and I'm very good at it. That's my strength. I really understand the mind. Mind is movement. Mind's not a thing. Your brain isn't your mind anymore than your toenail is. Your brain is an electronic switching stations. Mind is movement. Body is a manifestation of that movement. So if you just stand and just observe a person, you'll get a hell of a good idea what's going on in their mind. I can stand walk by a person just I'll feel their energy because you send off energy. I'll feel, I can tell what state they're in. In seminars, I'll read a person's energy, I'll scare them because you have an intuitive factor. You can pick that energy up and read it. But everything starts in the mind. So whatever benefit or any good that you want. That's where it starts. You've got to start to understand it, study it. And I think the best thing to do there is to go to somebody that really understands it. Ask for help and learn. Go for the best. I was doing a seminar for Prudential in, let's see, 1974, 75. I did seminars for the entire company and we raised our sales by hundreds of millions of dollars teaching them just a couple of basics about the mind. But I was doing a seminar in Chicago at the Hillside Holiday Inn. I had 450 different district agents in the room. The number one agent whose name was Ronnie Sempertrain. He was the number one of all of their agents in the world. And when I found out he was in the room, I got him to stand up and I asked him a few questions. I said, Ron, how many people in the past year have asked you if they could take you to breakfast or lunch and had a list of half a dozen well prepared questions to ask you? Not one. This is the best in the company. He won the president's trophy, he was the number one agent. That would be like having the conventions of quarterbacks and nobody asked Brady anything. What the hell is going on? Where's their mind? But that's not unusual. I wasn't even surprised. Truth is, most people don't think. Remember Earl Nightingale, marvelous man. I loved working with him. He one time said, if the average person said what they were thinking, they would be speechless. And I'm inclined to agree with him. If you listen to most people what they're saying, it's fairly obvious they're not thinking or they never say what they're saying. Or stand back and watch what they're doing. They'd never do what they were doing if they're thinking. Just move into action. Don't think, you know?
Who was the greatest mentor for you? Was it Earl?
Was it?
Oh, that's pretty difficult. I've had, well, the first guy, Ray Stanford, he wasn't the wisest, but he's the one who got me started. He's the one who changed my direction. and there was Val van der Wall. He was the first one that really taught me about the mind. And then I got studying with his Mentor, Dr. Harry Roeder. And then I got Earl Nightingale and Lloyd Coned, his partner. Then I got Bill Gove, who's a great public speaker. Bill really taught me how to speak. I don't speak anything like Bill Gove. People pay me a lot of money to speak and I speak nothing like him, but he was my teacher. What he did, he taught me to be totally relaxed in front of a thousand, twenty thousand, doesn't matter. And that's really the key, you know? Yeah.
So, do you ever think it's too late for someone to reprogram their mind around money? If they're in their 40s and 50s and they've never made money.
Not at all.
Do you think it's possible to make money?
Oh, hell no.
No.
Listen, if a person can fog a mirror, if they can breathe, you know, it's not too late. Because when you think of the good you can do with it, I do a lot of good with money. Our company, Sandy and I do a lot of good with money. We build schools in Africa. Oh, there's so much, so many things I could tell you that are, have been able to do with some money.
So.
No, it's never too late. It's never. And anyone can learn how to earn money. The secret to wealth is have multiple sources of income. You don't have one, you have all kinds of them. I mean, you can earn more money when you're sleeping than you could spend when you're awake. We don't really know very much about money at all.
Yeah.
And for you, what's the lesson you need to be reminded of that you continue to struggle with or continue to have mistakes around the most that you have to often relearn for yourself?
Oh, wow.
You know, you don't, you don't get angry anymore, but if that was one that you continue to have to relearn on how to have peace when you're angry, what's, what's something that you still struggle with?
I probably don't take good enough care of my health. Now at 86, I look back when I was 26, I should have started then, you know, and I could probably take much better care of my health because I have no intentions of slowing down, so.
Do you have a full-time nutritionist and trainer?
No.
Oh, we got to get you on that ASAP, Bob. We need you around for another 50 years, you know?
Well, I've got the Bellaggio booked for my 100th on July of 2034. I'm going to do a seminar at the Bellaggio.
Wow. that's pretty cool. You've got it booked already.
Yeah.
You already have the deposit down, you got the date, you got everything. Yeah. That's cool.
I like that.
Yeah.
So now you got it in your mind and you got it physically, you got the date booked, but now you got to do the action steps in between to make sure you can manifest it, right?
Yeah. Yeah, I could treat myself better physically. I just going in such a rapid clip all the time, you know?
What's it gonna take for you to commit to either, well, I'm just about at that point.
I'm really at that point right now. I'm in lockdown here, so it's, you know, they're getting through to me and the house is being rebuilt. It'd be done in about a month and we're talking about, really building a gym there. So, I'm on the right track.
Here's my challenge to you, Bob. You can decline or accept. My challenge is to hire someone full time to be your dedicated health and wellness coach that works with nutrition, and maybe it's two people, but someone that works with nutrition on you and someone that is there in person at least three days a week helping you with movement, physical rehab, prehab, training, whatever it might be, to keep your body moving as well.
What's the date today?
Today is the, it's like February 10th, the day of recording.
Geez, I know today is my brother's birthday, for God's sake. I should have known that.
Yeah.
So what day can you, what day.
Can you come by? Before the end of the month. Before the end of the month, I'll have you who those people are and what I'm doing with them.
Perfect.
Yeah.
It's got to be, they've got to be full time. Like, full time. You've got the money to invest in it. You've got to, you got to have, and they can be virtual on Zoom right now. I don't care. If they can't come in person, you can do it over Zoom and they can coach you that way.
So, I'll get it done. I will have a nutritionist and somebody to work with me physically. I have a guy here who is Mr. Canada, and he's always phoning me. He's gonna be showing up. There you go. I'm gonna get him to call.
We got to make sure that you, if that's the biggest challenge for you.
Then you'll have that to you by the end of this month. I will have it done.
You'll text me and let me know.
I will.
Yeah.
Okay, text me with the coach in the first session.
I will. You'll know who they are, what they're going to do.
Great.
Great.
I love that. Where do you want to continue to learn? What's the thing that you want to continue to learn personally that you haven't mastered yet?
Well, I want to learn more about the mind. Hold on a minute.
Mm-.
There's, I'm going to. Here's something that. I want you to just listen to this. This is. This is one of the best pieces of literature I have ever read. I'm going to read it through. It's only about 20 lines, and then we'll talk about it for a few minutes.
Great.
My mind is a center of divine operation. The divine operation is always for expansion and fuller expression. This means the production of something beyond what has gone before, something entirely new, not included in past experience though proceeding out of past experience by an orderly sequence of growth. Therefore, since the divine cannot change its inherent nature, it must operate in the same manner in me. Consequently, in my own special world, in which I am the center, it will move forward to produce new conditions always in advance of any that has gone before. I'm going to, I'm just going to photograph, I'll take a picture of this page and I'll send it to you. That please. The start of this is the key. My mind is a center. of divine operation. Now, if I held a basketball here, there's only one point in that basketball at center, isn't there? And that's determined by the outer measurements of the ball. Agreed? There's only one center in this studio. I don't know where it is. I don't even know how to find it, but I know somebody would know how to find it. In all things there is only one center. this literature says, my mind is a center, which would indicate there's more than one Center. So if you studied this long enough and I finally figured out why this. The man that wrote this is one of the most brilliant writers I think I've ever studied. Thomas Troward. My mind is a center. When you're dealing with Divine operation, you're talking about infinite. There is no outer ring, so any Point Center. Your mind, Louis, is a center of divine operation. And the divine operation is always for expansion and fuller expression. This means a production of something beyond what's gone before. So there's something coming. It's going to be better than everything in the past. I'm going to send this to you. I want you to read it every day for 90 days.
Okay.
Yeah.
Send it to me.
I'll stretch your mind. When you say, what do you study? I want to expand my awareness. I want a greater awareness of my relationship with the whole scheme of things.
Isn't it crazy that we are standing on a.
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