Benchmark founder Andy Rachleff lists three entrepreneurs who were better at product than Steve Jobs

And they think they can come up with another idea that's just as good. And unfortunately that seldom happens. Even Steve Jobs failed at his next startup.

Yeah, next.

Next.

His next startup. Next was a disaster. And it was basically a holding pattern for him to come back to Apple, apparently. Do you think he premeditated that as a holding pattern? No. He thought he was going to kill Apple.

Yes.

So it was almost like saving face and then revisionist history is that was the holding pattern.

But every great marketer is a revisionist.

Exactly. Was he the best marketer in the history of Silicon Valley or somebody bad?

Damn good. I can't imagine anyone better.

Yeah, right.

No better product people, but I don't know what better.

Who's better product people. Give me that like or better product companies.

You know, I think that Scott Cook, the founder of Intuit's, the best product person I've ever met.

Really?

And I thought Steve Blank was an amazing product person. Developed the philosophy on which Eric Ries based his book. Yeah, I think those two guys were just incredible. But actually someone even better than that who doesn't get talked about a lot is John Warnock, the founder of Adobe. He had so many innovations, it was unbelievable. First of all, he did postscript that enabled what you see is what you get printing. He did Illustrator.

Illustrator.

Then they licensed Photoshop but made it much better. And then he almost single handedly made PDF or Acrobat. He was an amazing. He is an amazing man.