Healing with Compassion with Sabrina Ciceri

Wellness is a practice, not just a word.

Welcome to the Synergy podcast where myself, Kelly Engelman and Lori Essery shed light on powerful tools and topics that nourish.

Your body and most importantly, feed your soul.

We are so excited you guys are back. Senergy listeners, you're going to love this podcast. You're going to fall in love with Sabrina. We're so excited. We got to capture her heart and soul today in today's podcast.

So a little bit about Sabrina Ciceri. She sees medicine through a different lens and represents an evolution in healthc care, shifting the disease centered focus of medicine to a more preventative approach. Recently, she fulfilled a lifelong dream by opening Immunity Health, a company that offers treatments like IV therapy, functional medicine, bioidentical hormone therapy, cryotherapy, hyperbaric and red light therapy, microneedling with plant based stem cells, and much more. All designed to help clients achieve a stronger immune system and look and feel their best inside and out. Her vast experience in the healthcare field was the driving force behind opening this innovative company. You guys are gonna love Sabrina.

So we're bringing in Sabrina today from Immunity. Help Sabrina tell us your story.

Oh boy. I don't know where to begin. Uh, there, there's so many stories. You know, being in my 50s now, there's a lot to tell. But, you know, I was thinking just the other day how when I first visioned what I wanted to do long term, it was a wellness center. It was in 1993 and I was talking to the girl that was doing a pedicure on me and I was telling her one day I dreamed of having a wellness center, just starting into nursing. I saw things that didn't seem like it felt right, didn't totally align. One met after the other, nobody feeling better. So I just started learning and reading more things and just kind of followed that path. I went down lots of different avenues through the years to get to where finally, you know, in 2020 we opened that center and it's expanded with the services that we offer and the reach that we have with helping people, it's just getting rolling.

So you started your career in nursing. I love that, that you're a nurse and you saw things in medicine that just weren't adding up. Even back in 1993.

Yes.

Yeah. So walk us through the timeframe between 93 until that 2000. Cause you did some things in the fitness industry too, right?

Yes. You know, I started with the help of my mother, a fitness center, a fitness studio. It was the first and the only Little personal training studio there because we felt like that there was a need for people that were afraid to go to the gym and they wanted more one on one and they didn't want to feel embarrassed being around muscle heads or, you know, sometimes it feels like a meat market in some of the gyms. So we created a safe place for people. We ended up helping meal prep and doing all kinds of things, coaching. And that actually opened up another door. You know, it's unique how you look back and when you're starting something, you don't really know how it's going to happen, but you just follow through with, with faith. And the old saying that the people that you need to know are already there. You know, you just have to, you know, just keep your eyes open and keep believing. Because doing the fitness center when I got out of nursing led into starting a column at a local magazine called Ask Sabrina. And then that led into us launching a healthy living magazine that was published for 10 years about balanced living with financial, spiritual, mental, physical. Which led me to the interview with a man that saved his life and told me about Hippocrates in the backyard here of central Florida here in South Florida. And then one thing just, has just led to the other. You know, you just keep walking out and you keep staying positive, even not knowing. I mean, my license was, I say only, only an lpn. You know, I was a single parent, had a one year old daughter and decided that that was the quickest, easiest way for me to have some freedom. As an only child living with my parents, I wanted to get away, so I got straight into lpn. And I kept thinking along the way, how am I? I'm not going to get that far with this degree. But little pieces here and there opened the door. I ended up being an administrator of a home health agency as an lpn. I don't know how it actually happened. God's hand was in all of it because I would get asked all the time though. So what school did you go to and what credentials do you have? I'm like, I don't have a lot of that, but I got a lot of grit and hard work and I just meet the right people and as you say, working together, we work together and then little miracle magic happens all along the way.

So I have had the privilege, Sabrina, of knowing you since high school and I want to say that you've had grit for a long time and it's been such a privilege to watch you walk this out. And I love what you said about having a Dream to have a wellness center. You know, you were just having a pedicure, you said, right, and I want to have a wellness center, but didn't really know how that would manifest. And through just some opening of doors and some probably slamming of windows, or maybe just the opposite opening of windows and slamming of doors, you entered into just each next step. And that next step got you to the next step. And I just, I think it's so incredible as we talk about empowering other women to walk it out and have faith. You obviously have passion. And I want to know a little bit about where does this passion actually come. Come from? Because you have a heart of gold. So I got to know a little bit more about that.

Well, I don't know. I don't know exactly. I mean, I was raised with a very strong parent, my father. You know, this is the land of opportunity, but nothing comes for free. You work, you know, you work hard, you can learn as you go to work smarter, but you put in the hard work. And I have strived through the years to keep balance. I mean, I have six kids too, you know, and four grandkids and three cats and three dogs and, you know, oh, and let's not forget all the parents and family. You know how that goes. I'm tired just listening to you. Yeah, but you just, you know, you just keep keep moving and staying positive.

But you have such a love for people. I've seen it, you know, genuinely deeply caring for the well being of others. You see that in yourself, right?

I do. It's. It's to a fault sometimes. Yes.

So where does that come from?

Sorry, this gets me emotional, you know, for a second because. Yeah, I think that more than even medical care, supplementation, all of those things, people at the core need nurturing and love and support. And that's where it starts. And I think that's one thing that makes things a lot different. With immunity and our approach to everything it comes from, we give love first. We love them no matter what, no matter what they do and where they're at. We try to meet them where they are and just encourage them and, and let them know that Never lose hope. Never give up on themselves, you know, never stop believing. The body's wonderfully made and it, it can heal itself. You know, you just mentally, spiritually and physically have to connect. And it all starts with igniting that life force, not just with the nourishment that they're getting, but with hugs and connection and an energy like that. And I think that's what Kind of sets us apart.

And I think what you're saying there is nourishing. We all talk about nourishing their bodies with food, but it's. It's nourishing their souls and connecting with them. And that speaks volumes as I've seen you around your patients. Absolutely. And it's, it speaks to how instrumental you are in helping pass along that encouragement and seeing them reach their goals, you know, because you do. You speak a different language. And it's not the spoken word alone. It's through your actions as well.

Thank you. Yeah, no, it's very rewarding. You know, it's, there's, it's so exhausting sometimes. And anybody that's in the healthcare profession understands the exhaustion. But then you just, you wake up every day renewed again from, you know, just by knowing that. I don't know, you. You guys all understand it. You just, you just wake up renewed again and say, you know, we got this. There's people that need to know just more believing in themselves.

You know, I think, Sabrina, that comes when you are living your passion. You know, God is good. He renews us every day. And when you're living in that passion, you wake up with that. Just feeling fortified. Right. To go out and do it again, to go out and embrace people again. But I also wanted to speak to your servant leadership. You know, Lori and I, through synergy, have had an opportunity to be on site at Immunity and watch you in action with your team. As a businesswoman, you know, it's not easy to be a businesswoman. Right. And I have seen you step up and really lean into your team in ways that are just profound. Love them, meet them where they are, but also challenge them. How do you pull that off? Because I want more of that in my life.

I don't know. It's funny because my kids all said I'm very close to my kids, and they, they always called me the warden. You guys have helped me tremendously with steps and strategies and forms and things that have. They just really was the missing piece because I was doing the things that I knew to do, but now I have some, some backing that helps. But generally, you know, everywhere that I've worked, it's hard to say something nice about yourself, really, but I've always been complimented for the way that I've worked with my cnas or with. With anybody. And I think the reason why that I have, because I do have a good team, and I get complimented all the time about what a good team. They call me mom. They really act like, they love being there. But I, I don't want to say I tough love them sometimes. They absolutely know that I'm very direct and say what needs to be said, but I'm not a grudge holder. I say what needs to be said, but then we go on. I'm not holding on to it. I'm not passive aggressive with you later. They know that it's coming from a good place, I think, because they can see that I'm genuine in what I'm doing, that we're trying to be excellent in caring for people and professional and clean. And they know that I want all these things done, not to micromanage, but in a way for us to be a wonderful, outstanding place for people to come that want to hang out and they want to be around us more. I think that's what makes it a little bit different. I mean, we joke and we laugh and have fun, but, you know, I mean, I have people, they always hug me and I mean, they cry and hug me and tell me they love me when we sit down and have to do a write up. And I think it's just the approach because they know I don't want to do this. You know, I don't want to do this. We're doing this because immunity is here and it has to survive and it has certain expectations. And, you know, when you interviewed, you were, you were this way and said this way. Now I just need you to be that person that you told me and that I saw in the beginning. You know, I just kind of redirect them and motivate them somehow. Write up ends up getting me a hug too.

Well, tough love is not an easy thing and it's certainly not easy at work. You know, it's not easy in the home, but it really is even harder in the work area. And I agree with Kelly. You know, you, you really do have a servant heart for God's work and showing love. So I want to hear a little bit of. As you have grown over the years in this desire to help people nourish their heart and their souls, what is it about what you're doing right now at immunity has gotten you closer to really fulfilling your passion. What do you guys do there you haven't been able to do before? That's getting you even closer to that dream of that passion and acting it out.

Goodness.

Because you've been in the fitness industry, you know, so you did that and then you guys had a facility in which you did IV therapy. But it seems like what you have now is kind of the best of all of those places, if you will, that you now, like, you now have one place, right?

Yes. Well, coming down to West Palm to do immunity, we were able to have the space to put everything there that I wanted to place before. It was limited, so I had to pick and choose, and I never felt like I was like a kid kicking my feet. I wanted more. So down here we had the space because I had been learning about epigenetics and the biohacking, and it was tying into different things you do when you can combine them and stack them, you make huge leaps. And I knew we were coming to a campus where people were in some critical condition oftentimes and they couldn't take a slow approach. They had to move fast. So I'm so happy that we have the space. And of course, I've added some things and I'm busting out the seams now because they're forever creating new stuff. But I think that that has created what I want to be able to give a good impact for people. But also when they're there, they're spending more time. And I think the more time that they're there, we're able to, like I say, spend that time and give them more love and encouragement. They're not just checking in, getting one thing and leaving. They're spending more time there with us. And that's been real beneficial for them and us.

Right. So the therapies that you offer there now are what?

Well, we have the IV therapy, you know, the IV nutrients, which I like to always add this because it's trendy and popular and people are doing IV therapy. But it may not be the safest therapies. Our vital nutrients are all preservative free. They're never sourced from corn, only cassava root and yam. And we get people all the time that say, you know, well, I can't. Our place doesn't do that, but at least it's better than nothing. And I explained to them, from what I know, that it isn't good to put these synthetic things and it is causing more harm. It's better to do none than to add something that's going to decrease your immune system function. But anyway, I could go on about that, but the IV therapies, and then we've got the vimy bed, which people love. That's the vibroacoustic electromagnetic infrared bed. Many people will do an IV drip on that because that electromagnetic field will help drive those nutrients down deeper into the cell for more benefit all the same time they're meditating and getting in a parasympathetic state through some sound and vibration therapy. That's a wonderful tool. And many people go from that to the hyperbaric, which most people know what that is, the oxygen therapy. And then they'll finish with red light. We've got the Therilight 360, which is an amazing machine. 45,000 red lights that just does multiple things, killing free radicals. They lay in there like the old timey tanning beds. At least I hope there's not tanning beds out there anymore. We have exercise with oxygen therapy. We've got a Hyper T Pro that does gets up to 190 degrees only from the neck down. So that people that can't tolerate infrared saunas because they feel like they can't breathe with their head in, their head stays out. So they still get that great detoxification. We've got aesthetic things too, you know, Scarlet Aqua firm. We've got the cryo skin now. Things that help people on the outside too, you know, they care about. I never want to be a med spa. And when people will say something like that, it makes me cringe. I don't want to be a med spa. But I also have seen how much people's identity are tied into hair loss and things like that. And we do want them to leave their feeling better inside and outside.

And you service clients from not just there at Hippocrates Health Institute on property, but you also are there for guests from all around your surrounding community, is that correct?

Yeah, we have people coming from as far as, I mean Miami for the local area, Port St. Lucie. So they come from a two hour radius here. And we've been having more and more calls as the website has, the Google search and all that stuff has grown. People have called and it just puts me in awe that they say, I'm in Illinois, but I see that you have all these modalities and treatments. And I want to come down there and get a motel and stay for like a month and come in every day and get treatments. Cause I'm struggling with this. I'm like, wow. And I tell them, I said, well, there might be places closer to you. And they check, they say, no, no, no, it's not the same or they only have one thing or it's only 5,000 lights. And I would rather come down there and just spend 30 days and do everything you have under one roof. And it just, just makes me so happy, honors me, you know, that they found that and that we are meeting the need for even people outside of here.

I remember when I shared the concept with Kelly and I was so excited. I called her and I said, you wouldn't believe it. I mean, there's this one facility and it has all of these things. I'm like, kelly, we've got to go. This is like our playground for wellness. Like, we've got to go, huh, Kelly?

It truly is a playground, you know, And I walk, my eyes were just like I was a kid in a candy store. I couldn't stop grinning and just looking around and like, when do I get to play? Because having all of those modalities, you know, a lot of that technology is European technology. You don't see that around every corner. And to have it all in one place, to your point where people can come and enjoy the benefits and really gain some traction on their wellness journey and then decide what do they want to take home? You know, what do they want to embody to take home to perhaps use on an ongoing basis. Right. Cause some of those things they can get in a portable fashion to use as they continue to heal.

No, they do. And I.

You guys have cryo too? You didn't mention cryo.

Yeah, that's what I was forgetting to say. How did I forget that machine? Our largest investment was in this machine and it took us 12 months to get it from Germany. Cause they made it especially for us. It's a dual chambered electric cryotherapy and it's massive. And it took us forever to get that. But we love that machine too.

So it's world class. And I could see why people travel from all over. I mean, you know, I have no problem hopping in my car and, and coming three and a half hours to visit and would do it more often because of, you know, just the technologies. And not only that, I mean, once again, going back to, you can have all of those modalities, you can have all of those services, but you can still have a facility that's not worth going to if the team that you put together isn't inviting, warm and desiring to nurture. So it's not just what you've put together in the way of these resources. It really is everything together. So I just, I mean, hats off to you. I know that it is hard for you to take compliments. I can see your face. It's hard. It's hard to speak about yourself too, but incredibly proud of what you have done and are going to continue to do because of your heart, your desire, your passion. Your compassion. Can't forget that. Your compassion for people. It's definitely infectious, Sabrina. It absolutely is.

Thank you.

So a birdie told me that there's a book coming out.

Oh, yes. I. For a long time, and I'm pushing to have it come out in May. It's my first book that I've ever written, so I've probably overanalyzed it a lot. But it's called if It's Not One Thing, It's a Mother. And it basically. I love the title.

Did you come up with that title yourself?

I did. It was actually one day when I was talking about something else my mom had done. This is me as an adult. You know, I'm like, oh, my gosh. If it's not one thing, it's a mother. You know, it's like, oh, my God. But it's just basically kind of relating to how it is to be a daughter and how you. How you feel about your mother growing up and the many transitions along the way. You're first recognizing is that as you're growing older, my mom's not perfect, and maybe I don't want to be just like her. And then feeling guilty kind of for that. And then when I had my first child, you know, my first child was a daughter, and I remember thinking about how I need to first do what mom taught me to do. But then it's like, wait a second. I think I want to do it differently. And then feeling guilt over that and then growing through that, watching my daughter become a mother and now how I feel as a grandmother. You know, I'm the yaya in the family, but. But it's just a book that really relates and understands women, and it also kind of motivates and encourages them along the way. It's basically, I've changed the direction of my life from the way that I was raised. I've taken what I found good in my mother, and I love her very much. And I've put boundaries there as well for the things that I. That I don't want to be codependent on and kind of let that feed into my life. And she understands it and respects it, but it just helps people to understand kind of where they are. I've kind of taken it through the stages. It's basically how health, faith, and I am an old school parenting style. How that's gotten me through and shaped my life is what the book's about.

So once again, being an inspiration to other women. And I can imagine not only women, because I'm certain that There will be men who would find this book helpful as well, but an inspiration all the while to your readership and just, again, the impact. So I can't wait to read it. And that is an actual super cool title.

Super cool. Thank you.

So I just have to ask, any insight on why, as women, there's so much guilt around our relationships with our moms and oftentimes our daughters?

Yeah, well, there's lots of pressure, I think, at least for myself, pressure that if I did anything different than the way that mom had done it, that it would be in some form of disrespect. And I. I'm a firm believer. I respect my parents. Even when I disagree with them, I respect them. So I think you feel that way. And then from what I saw in my friends raising kids that I never did fall into was how much that they feel the pressure that they need to be their friend. You know, I wasn't put on this earth to be my children's friend, but that wasn't the role that I was here to play. You know, I love them, nurture them, guide them, and I do have fun with them. I mean, we theme park, we play uno. You know, we do the fun things. It's not that you can't do that, but I'm not crossing the line and trying to become a friend and want to hear the details of the intimate details of a date or, you know, I just think that the children growing up today need less of their moms to be a friend and more of them to be strong and feel confident that they can be the mother. You never get too old to be a mother. I mean, I'm 51 and still need a mother. So I just think we need to hold onto that and not feel guilty by not saying, well, we're grown. My daughter says it to me all the time. I'm an adult daughter now. I'm like, you are, but you're still my child. And if I see you doing something wrong, I'm gonna be advising you differently.

I love it. Did you hear that? Our daughters, we have daughters, too. So I hope you're listening into this podcast. Sabrina just gave me permission to still be your mom.

That's right. They have to respect. You know, my daughter slipped up the other, I don't know, a couple months ago, and she's even saying a cuss word, which I'm not going to say. You know, you have to be legalistic. But she said something like, I beg your pardon? She's like, Mom, I'm 31. I'm like, I don't care. I want to hear that on my baby girl's mouth. Don't say that.

They do.

They need.

They really do need that loving correction from people that. That do adore them and want to see the best in them. Right. You know, as a mom, we want to see the best in our children. But I do see what you're talking about, about, you know, how oftentimes we, as when we become moms, we want to mimic what we saw growing up, or in fact, when we feel like we don't do that, that perhaps we're going to upset them because we've chosen to do things differently. And even when being questioned, that. That questioning isn't always about questioning in a negative way. Maybe it's just creating dialogue, but I could see how it can be offensive. You're asking me why I'm doing this. Is it because you don't like what I'm doing, or it's because you really want to know? So making sure we're keeping dialogue of when we are having those conversations, it's not that we necessarily always disagree. Perhaps it's just that we want to understand more. We want to be a part of their lives. We want. We want to be there for them to lean on. We want to be a safe place that they can still land, like you said, regardless of you being, you know, 50, you know, me being, you know, I'm not going to say my age, but, you know, I still need my mama, too, and I'm so blessed to still have my mama.

Yes, no, exactly. And I think that you don't be so hard that you don't keep that relationship open. My children know that if they do something that I don't like and they share it with me, it's not a big deal. I'll give my opinion, and then I'll say, you know, past the potatoes, you know, it's. Everything's still in love, you know, But I come from a strong Greek family, my husband's Italian family, so we can rant and rave and lift the roof off and then give hugs and sit down and share an apple. You know, it's just the way it is.

That's right. And I also want to mention, I mean, you're talking about you have both biological children, but you have adopted several children, so talk about that dynamic a little bit, too. When did you first adopt and how many adopted children do you have?

Okay. I have four adopted children, and we had the two oldest, and then we decided we were going to Adopt from China. We had ran into some couples and we just felt like God was leading us down that road. So we got our daughter when she was 10 months old and she's now almost 19 at Gainesville now going to school. And then it's weird that we're talking today because it popped up in a memory 10 years ago today. I was actually doing a week detox at Hippocrates, laying in a hammock and I was just praying and God laid on me heavy that you're going to adopt more children. Of course I called Joe right away and said, God just said, we're going to adopt more children. He's like, whoa, wait a second, I'm not sure. And it wasn't but maybe a week later that he said, you know, I think we are supposed to adopt, but not internationally or I think we're supposed to foster and adopt. So we started looking down that road and we fostered for a little while and then ended up within that year we had a two year old and then two newborns. So they were a month apart. They were raised like twins. They're actually a month apart, but they are now this summer fixing to turn 10 years old. The two little ones and then the, the other ones turning 12. So we've got the 31, 25 year old and the almost 19 year old we call the bigs and then the 10, 10 and 12 year olds we call the littles.

Amazing. Amazing. Another example that is precious, right? Yep. I agree. Heart of gold is being a mom. Is that dynamic difference with the different children, like.

No, no. We talk about this all the time. You know, all six children are completely different too. They're all different. You know, the two little ones that we had as newborns, everybody's like, oh, how cute are they twins? The little boy was white as a sheet. That would they. One of my friends nicknamed him Powder and my Other one was 25% Native American Indian, dark thick hair and dark skin. It was the cutest thing because I'd always get asked, they look like total opposites, but they are yours. You know, the terminology that we use is different because now we realize there is no real kids or not kids. They just are. They're all our children, no matter what.

Absolutely, yes.

So, Sabrina, let's be real for a minute. It's not easy to be a mom. It's not easy to be a business owner. It's not easy to be a caregiver. How do you keep life balanced? How, what are your strategies? Like what do you lean into to continue to live your purpose and keep life balanced.

Well, it's a constant juggle. And a few years ago, I found out I gave myself a little bit of a break between feeling like I constantly had to keep everything in perfect balance. So I was failing constantly at that. And then I realized with myself that I was going to give myself these grace periods for different things. So I knew last year when I took this step to go to West Palm and leave central Florida while my kids and family were there and go back and forth that they knew and we talked as a family, that was going to be the year of hustle for mom. I had dreams and goals. I loved them and the care was going to be there for them. But this was the little segment of my life where that was going to be the focus. And I adjust that going on. Like me and Joe, we are leaving for a week in May. Come hell or high water, we're gone for a week. We're almost 30 years together now, married, and we definitely take our time together because we're more in love and happier now than we were 30 years ago. And it's not about having all this time with him. It's about when we do have our time. It's, you know, it's quality. We're talking and he's. He's a businessman, too. So a lot of our time together is talking about business. So that works. But things will get out of balance. And just like recently, tackling on a little bit of weight, feeling like I've not been taking care of myself. I've sat down and reevaluated. So even in this next, I committed and I have a personal trainer for the next 12 weeks. I'm taking a break in the middle of the day, four days a week. I'm going to the gym. I will leave work a little bit. They'll make it. Because now it's time for me to put a little bit more time into me. And then same thing with the kids. I'm prepared during the different stages. When they hit 13, 14, I might have to back off of something else and then bring more time into them. I just think it's constantly stopping to beat yourself up about having to have balance every single day because it's impossible. There are days where takes the lead and I give my husband nothing or my children just. Just get a kiss good night or something. But I make that up on the next week, on the Thursday when I take them out and we have a night out on the town and go to the movies and Everything, it's just balance. And I've finally. It took me a long time, okay. With. With not feeling guilty if I did work a lot or did other things, it'll all come out in the wash. As long as I continue to reevaluate and then reposition what I need to focus on that, that next season.

That's such great advice. Really.

I think you just said a mouthful.

Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. And I heard. I heard several things in that that really resonated with me, and I'm certain that as those are listening, there are certain things that you said that resonated with them. But you said stopping the guilt and also stopping that. Trying to find the perfect balance, number one. You also said taking time to reevaluate and recognizing that as seasons change, you have to really look back in again to reevaluate and restructure, which you did. And then you also said something about communicating with your family about what you have going on. And I really appreciate that. You said, you know, I told my. My kids it's the year of hustle, right? And we're going to hustle and how important it is to communicate that to them, you know, to your family members. This is what's going on. So there's. I mean, those are the things. There's so much that resonated in that. But that was. Those were the things that I really heard you say. And I think it was such great advice and profound. I think we all need to be reevaluating, reassessing, knowing that things aren't going to be perfect, knowing that we have to adjust our sails right with. For the wind. We got to adjust our sails for the wind. And we do have to communicate our direction to rally the troops. And our family is our troops. They are our supporters. They are the people that love us. And if we want to be successful, we really need them to support and. And be aware of where we're going so that they can be our co pilots.

What I heard her say, she didn't say this in so many words, but what I heard her say is life is going to be. It's going to get out of balance. Expect that. Don't be surprised that life is going to get out of balance and we have to plan some time to reevaluate. You know, have that sit down, talk with yourself about, okay, what are your priorities, what are you trying to get accomplished and then figure out how to make it happen. And that's where the grit comes in. You know, the grit never leaves you. You know, it's going to be with you from here until. Until death. That's just who you are. And so I think it's important that we give ourselves time and space to reevaluate and figure out, you know, how to. How to take that next step. Never losing faith.

Yeah, no, that's great. And I see it even in the younger kids. I mean, in our older children, we see that we've instilled. They've watched us work hard and they've taken it and applied it in their own life, and they've seen us do it happily, not, oh, my gosh, I hate going to work. You know, they see us putting these hours, but they know we love what we do. And even, I mean, my little ones, muffins, my youngest, you know, she'll say, how was work today? Did you meet new people? Did you know? She's interested in it? Because she knows how interested I am in what I'm doing. And I don't mind. I think a lot of people, and I've seen this before where they. They're not working as much because they want to be home and be present with their child, but they're on their phone or they're playing video games. They're not present. So when we are present with the kids, we're present. It might not be as much time. At the time that is there, we're there, and the time that it's not, they know. They know what we're doing and respect what we're doing. They get excited asking us about it.

And I also know how important your faith is to you. You know, that's something that you have shared also as we have talked, you know, outside of this time together, that, that comes through as you talk about caring and loving people and wanting to be a servant and your servant heart.

So.

I see that too.

Thank you. That's good. No, it's. We make it no secret in both of our businesses. You know, me and Joe, God is the center. He's our source. He has created miracle upon miracle in our lives. You know, I mean, me and Joe both, like I say, are not. Not college graduates. You know, we have successful businesses and we, we have. We're blessed with love and finances and a lot of different ways. And it just came from. We both got into church together and it was simple, that God had already given us all these things. It was out there, just trust and believe and take the steps and follow your desires and things would come. And I've. I've held him to it. God says this And I say, okay, you, you say it and I'm going to just follow. And we're both very sensitive to trying to listen to that. Now there are many, many times and all strong women will say the same thing. Even just the other day, I was going into a hard meeting. I stressed about it all week long. Going to this hard meeting. I'm like, I'm just can't sleep. I'm rehearsing it in my head when I get up at 2 to pee or whatever. And then I remember the day of the meeting, that morning. I actually. There's a little secret place that I go to in my mind, like meditation where I meet Jesus. And I usually, you know, I have this dissension of get going into the guided meditation type of thing which I'm sure many of you have experienced. But usually I'm stepping myself down mentally and I get there and I've got my little spot and then Jesus comes. You know, it's a whole little thing that I do to get myself to that place. The first time ever in all these years. That morning of the meeting, I was so nervous. My chest was tight. I was like, oh, I think I need to talk to Jesus. You know, of course I didn't talk to him all week because I was working us all out in my head. And as I was going down in my mind, I was like stumbling. And when I got there, he was already there for the first time. He was already waiting on me. And I was like, oh my goodness, is this not symbolic to he's there all the time. If I just would go to him first and step trying to figure all this out. And so then it just gave me a goosebumps and I was like, well, of course you're already there. I just, I just did somersaults falling down the stairs to get. So I called for you and you're just down there waiting on me.

Oh, that is such a great story to end with.

Yeah, so incredible. That's what I was going to say. Such a great story, such inspiration to end with. I mean, how many times have we done that where we just keep ourselves spun up for no reason at all, realizing that all the it's all been worked out before we can even imagine, you know, even better than we can imagine most of the time.

Right, exactly.

So Sabrina, as we're ending, how can people locate immunity? Give us some contact information so that listeners can look you guys up because your site, your website is incredible. You can't look at that website and not want to be There.

Thank you. Yeah, they can go to the website immunityhealth.com and we've got a lot of social media things going out. Really, really cool campaigns get a drip, Blue Monday. Things that are special to immunity. I'm trying to think. I'm sure you can search the social media and find us. But going to the website, it took me months to put together the education manual that's on there and It's, I think 64 or five pages. You could flip through and learn and read so much detail about what we do and understand the technology. But that's where I think it start. And you can always email from there, you know, and if you want to talk to me or just, just email me anything. Sabrinamunityhealth.com I would love to chat and meet new people. I never meet a stranger. You know, I'm, I'm from the, from the country.

So she said a sabrinamunityhealth.com right?

Yeah. That's how you could email me. But you can go to the website if you just want to check us.

Out and tell us the website address.

Immunityhealth.com Perfect.

Well, thank you.

In a couple months, I'll have. If it's not one thing, it's a mother.com pretty soon that'll launch. That book will be there, but I'm going to promote it a little bit on the immunity health site too. So be sure to look for that because it's motivational and it's also got some funny stories in it.

Well, congratulations on the book. We can't wait. I can't wait to read it. We can't wait to read it. Thank you so much for carving out time out of your busy but productive life. We really appreciated having you here today, Sabrina. You're welcome back anytime on our podcast. Such an inspiration for all of our listeners and so many words of encouragement that you shared today. So looking forward to people reaching out to you and like I said, certainly hoping that we can get back together again for a future podcast with you.

Oh, definitely. No. It's an honor to hang out with you ladies. You guys have really helped me in many, many ways. Things are in my mind. Things with the company you guys have where it felt like the puzzle pieces were there, but they were scattered. You impressed us greatly with how that's coming together. Every week there's just more positive change and it's all been because of the influence and support from you guys and we really appreciate it.

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