Tips On Reaching Financial Independence From A Successful Host

Hey everyone, welcome back to the Boostly podcast. This is the podcast that gives posts the tools, the tactics and the trainings but most importantly the confidence so you can go out there and get more direct bookings. Today we're going to be talking about personal finance, reaching financial independence and to help us do that we've got a successful short term rental host and we're going to be asking questions of his business, finding out what's worked for him and his business. But, but also he's very passionate about that personal finance. He's also now a best selling co author in Hospitable Hosts too which is an amazing project which we're going to talk more about as well. And yeah, we're going to dive into that. So if you didn't know already, my name is Liam Carolan, I'm Mark Simpson's co host and this is the miniseries where we go behind the host with a successful host. So today we're welcoming Vinci, Vinci Sevilla and he's from Getaway House and yeah, I'm really excited to dive into his story. So welcome along Vinci.

Hey Liam, thanks for having me. Really excited to be here. Yeah, looking forward to it man.

Well, me too. Let's, let's get started. Can you introduce yourself, tell us a bit about where your business is based and I guess who it is that you host and why.

Oh, absolutely. So I'm over here, I currently live out here in Southern California, you know, father of a one year old, our first and husband and I actually am currently still working a full time job while my wife and I build this, you know, short term rental technology driven company that we have. Getaway House is the name of our company and we currently specialize in luxury short term rentals around the nation. Here in the US we're currently in four states and we currently have eight properties closing on three more over the next two months. So we're really excited about it. Typically our markets are in vacation markets so we're talking about out in California we're in Joshua Tree and Big Bear, California and in Arizona we're in Scottsdale and in Tennessee we're in the Great Smoky Mountains. And we are also in a new market in West Virginia called the New River Gorge national park, which is the US latest and greatest national park.

Nice, nice. I mean that is a solid introduction to your business. So across four states, you know, national, which is amazing and also to be in these places which has got some of the biggest demand is just so important and I know we'll, we'll Dive more into that before we dive more into your business how you host. I really want to touch on the Hospitable hosts project which is, it's just been released. It's quite exciting to, you know, to be part of, for you as a host, but also for people like myself and the people listening to, to read through. If people are listening to this, not knowing what hospital hosts to is just Google hospitable hosts too and you'll be able to see the book. This is where there's 40 or so awesome short term rental hosts who are sharing their stories, but also some really great tips on how to get started, how to be successful. And Jody's basically collated them into this book, which, which is amazing. I mean I was lucky enough to be in book number one and you know, Vinci, you're in book number two. And the amount of value that these books are sharing is just incredible because we've only got a short amount to be able to share, obviously key details. And one of the things that we were talking about just before we went live or with the recording is there's a really nice poem in the start of the book which I thought was Jody or somebody doing like AI technology or something like that because it's a really well written poem about short term rental. But you've shared with me that you're the author of that poem.

That's right. Liam.

Can we be really cheeky and ask you to recite the poem just for the people on the podcast? It's cool to have a live reading from the author.

Absolutely. I can do a live reading. Okay, so you can find this poem. And one other thing, I write poetry. I've been writing poems since I was a kid, but I. Most of them I've written for, let's say school projects or kind of privately. And you know, the last big poem that I've written was actually something for my wife on our first year anniversary, wedding anniversary, I gifted her a small booklet of little scribbles that I write every single day of our first year of marriage. And I gave that to her in a form of a small little private book for her. And it had like, you know, little, little poems in there, little things that talk about how grateful I am to her. But anyway, beyond all that, I, I was talking to, to Jody and you know, she asked me to, to write this poem for this book. And I'm, I'm extremely honored and yeah, it definitely is, has been something different. But I'm here to. I think this will be my first live reading, Liam. So here we go.

A Brucely exclusive. And you've got a lot of the people going, oh, this is, you know, that's sweet. What you've done is the poems for your wife there as well. So you're already, you know, building up the personal brand there of being very caring.

Yeah. Our first poet for short term rentals. Right. Okay. All right. So the title of this poem, which you can find on the. On the first page of a hospitable host 2 title is what's it like then? Being a hospitable host. What's it like then, you ask? Being a hospitable host. Turning my home into something to boast. A gentle touch, a hammer swung, no detail left undone. A painting here, a mural there. Little figurines to fill the air. I open my home and invite them in to enjoy the comfort and beauty within. I strive to make their stay a delight with a clean and cozy space that feels just right. I offer them treats, amenities and books to read and make sure they have everything they need. A place to eat, maybe a nice view to sit and idle. Don't fear, our guidebook will be your bible. I am a host with a passion for sharing the joys of home and the pleasures of caring. I love to see my guests happy and content and leave with memories of a place well spent. I am a host, provider of rest, a friend to travelers on their journey's quest. I offer them a home away from home, a haven of peace and a place to roam. This is what it means to be a hospitable host, bringing joy and comfort to those who need it most.

I'm going to have to give it a clap just on the basis of, yeah, I think that's beautiful. And hey, you now made a name for yourself as the first poet of str. I think that is something which can stick. So let's talk about the book in general. How does it feel, first of all, to be a best selling co author? What and what do you want people to take away from your chapter within the book?

I would say my specific chapter in my book. I actually dive deep into, you know, some of the not so glamorous side of being a hospitable host. I talk about how my wife and I. My wife was five months pregnant when we went to our first short term rental and set it up, you know, and going live on our first listing and then our second and then our third while we were raising our firstborn, our child, and this was, you know, 2021 and this, this was really recent and so all of this was a lot. And one of the chapters, one of the sections I, I titled in my chapter is called Newborn Business. You know, talks about like, you know, the struggles of a, of a, of a new father, you know, and caring for a newborn. And at the same time running a business that, you know, we had no idea how it would impact us, running a business that we've never done before and really didn't really have a lot of people within our circle, our community who done something like this. And so the chapter really dives into being grateful, being present also with your family, and prioritizing and figuring out a balance between business and your personal life and everything else that goes in between. Because as you know, running a short term rental, it's not passive. You know, you don't kind of just set it and forget it, throw in a smart door lock and just let it go. You know, there's a lot that gets involved in it and it's, it's a business and first and foremost that's, that's what it is. You have to understand that and learn that you're running a business. And so yeah, I mean like, that's really what my chapter kind of dives into. In making sure that you try to figure out and prioritize your driver, your why and remember that you're doing all this personally. For myself, I do all this for my family. And so understanding that every choice that you make has to align with your driver and your why will help you when there are bad times that goes down when you're running your short term rental business. And that's a good reminder to have and so important.

There's a couple of questions sort of segue and off that is that first of all I can definitely relate to. I started my business just shortly after my, my little boy was born, my first born. And was that one of the driving factors of getting the business off the ground? Was that the reason? What did you do before this? What is your history before hospitality? And was the newborn family the drive to make the change into short term rental?

It definitely was the fire, let's say that. Right. So a lot of it really involved really before getting to short term rentals, we did invest in real estate. Already we were house hacking. So that's where, you know, we had bought a property. We were living in one side of the house and we were renting out other rooms and then we also had long term rentals. So we had properties in, out of state and you know, was which was given us a very modest amount of cash flow. But having Serenity, the name of my daughter, having her and kind of going through this realizing my wife is pregnant, we, it kind of just like it was something that just fueled the fire to everything. That's how we're able to scale from 1 to 8 within 12 months. And, and now, you know, we're, we're continuing to grow and continuing to, you know, specialize in short term rentals across the country.

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I love the, the drive and certainly for this, you know, this introduction and I know we've gone off to hospitable hosts, but I certainly feel a warmness as a host from you and the passion and also like you say, the speed to do it within 12 months is amazing. So let's dive into the nuts and bolts of, of the business of how you've done that. And I know we're talking about personal independence for your finance and, and that side of things. Looking back, what was the key drivers to moving you from where you were to where you are now? What would you say are some of the lessons that you've, you've brought along the way?

Well, you know, I think it kind of goes back to, you know, the, the culture and the environment that I was raised in. One I, I was, you know, wasn't born here in the States. I was born in the Philippines. I came here, I swam here when I was a kid. And so let's see here. You know, English was in my first language and kind of going through my entire life, you know, as an immigrant here in the US There were a lot of challenges and I didn't really, you don't really think about it as a kid. You're kind of just like going along with mom and dad and your brothers and sisters and kind of like, you know, in this new country and trying to figure things out. You think that everyone else around you is also in the same Position as you're struggling to make ends meet. Hustling, working day and night, working alongside with my parents. Also pretty much my entire life working on really odd businesses, you know, doing, doing different things and all of that kind of like gave me the drive for, I guess, my work ethic and the, the awareness to really see that, hey, you know what, you don't really need a lot in life to enjoy life and to be with your family and be present and be grateful and be content. But what you can do is you can, you can, you can set up something that your future family and something that is what we term out here, you know, generational wealth, you know, provide that type of generational wealth and knowledge to the rest of our family members. And that, that's something that I never had when I was a kid. And so going through this and learning all that and discovering all this, you know, as an adult was mind blowing. And that, that kind of, you know, bled into, you know, this business, into the short term rental industry. Being a hospitable host, caring for our guests and you know, figuring out what we needed to do in order to get where we wanted to go.

Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. And looking at it to go from one to eight, are these co hosted, are these arbitrage or are these owned? And if they're owned, how does, I guess what tips could you share around for somebody else who would want to do that as well? You know, what kind of financial sort of things do they need to know about and have in place to do so?

So the majority of these properties are owned or partially owned by myself and my wife. We do have a few that we do co host for others. We do believe in the, you know, less units the better. So we do focus more on luxury type short term rentals. However, getting to, to be in a financial position to purchase properties like this or partner with other people to purchase properties goes back to personal finance. And I think this is a good segue, Liam, for, for me to also talk about how educating ourselves in personal finance was key for us to start this business. First and foremost, my wife and I, when we first got married, you know, we believe in conjoining all of our money together and you know, it's, you know, man and wife becomes one. So you know, everything we every, everything that we have and that we own and everything that we, every debt that we have is also, you know, shared with between the both of us. And when we got married, you know, we had a total of 147,000 of student loans. And we made a intentional decision to go ahead and pay off those student loans and not wait for the government to bail you out or not wait for anyone else to forgive our loans or anything like that. We decided to go ahead and attack it. So we actually paid off $147,000 student loans in 14 months. And yeah, we did that through, through a number of strategies. But first and foremost, again, understanding that, you know, you, we, you have an issue and we need to attack it. Student loans. Even if someone, I think in the US goes bankrupt, student loans is one of the only debt that isn't even forgiven. So that was a big driver.

Definitely. And I think having financial awareness is so important. And definitely. I mean I'm one of those people who read Rich Dad, Poor dad back in the day and only, I mean I was probably about 30 before I read the book and that was only like, oh yeah, this makes sense. And at the time I was, I was in a full time employment, I was in debt. And, and you know, it, it wasn't until you start educating yourself on how to get out of it. But then also one thing you mentioned there is you both pulled the debt and it had the intention, you both agreed and had the intention to achieve a goal together. And having the power of intention is so important because a lot of people don't keep track of the, you know, the numbers or they don't keep track of the review scores and having these things, a mentor of mine says you can't master what you don't measure and just sitting there and going, hey, this is the actual number, this is what we need to get down to now. All I need to figure out is the how in the middle and I'm going to get there. And that's, that's exactly what you've done there. And it sounds to me as though short term rental has played a big part and obviously other investments has played a part as well. What I'd love to know is when you, you're talking about the luxury market, which I think is so important, especially as we record this, we're mid April 2023 as we record this and there's certainly a lot of units on the market which are that kind of middle of the road kind of stock, having that luxury market seems to be a really great way to go because you can keep the higher average daily rates and also they're a bit wow, you know, you're serving an avatar which aren't going to be as affected by inflation and some of the things which happen in the market. Was that intentional that you set out to go for that market? And if so, why and how have you implemented this, this luxury, these luxury brands? Because, because my opinion, and I'm sure people listening is like, hey, I don't know if I can afford some of the very nice places. I don't know if I can do this. What would you say to people with that kind of mindset?

Okay, there was like, I think two, two questions there.

A couple of questions.

No, no, but first of all, I, I mean to answer your first question, you know, this wasn't, it wasn't in our radar when we first started. We were just like, we want to get our first short term rental. Our first short term rental happened to be just a podunk cabin in the Smoky Mountains, but it was near a creek. It was adjacent to a creek. It actually sits on a creek and it's got a private staircase to it and it's got a private game room. And it was really nice. But what we found was one of the biggest reasons why we pivoted to short term rentals was, you know, the, the cash flow, right? You get significantly amount, amount a, significantly amount more cash flow than a long term rental. And even in the short term rental space, I realize, well, you can actually, if you invest in the type and the right type of short term rentals, that could be the same thing. Instead of getting multiple short term rentals that are in the, let's say 50% mid space, you know, you could be getting properties in the 90, 95% percentile in terms of, you know, occupancy and ADR. And so we try to target those type of properties shortly after discovering this, whether it's co hosting client properties for other clients or purchasing them ourselves. And so yeah, no, it wasn't immediate, but it was something that we decided, you know what, we don't want to handle too many properties. We want to really target the luxury ones that, you know, have high occupancy and high average daily rate, especially if we want to stand out in this market. So that was the, the, hopefully that answered your first question. And as for your second, you know, trying to, for someone out there who wants to get into that type of, type of asset class and let's say may not have the financing for it. You know, there are creative ways to purchase those kind of properties nowadays, but there are also creative ways for you to list them. Example through co hosting, you know, if you already have the processes and tools and automation for your short term rentals. It's literally using the same tools, same processes, same systems for the high end luxury type of properties and you can really apply those and partner with other people to purchase those type of properties, showing them that hey, with your processes, your systems and your automation, you can provide great returns for your investors and for your partners and for yourself. So I would suggest folks to, you know, tell everybody and anyone, you know what you're looking for and what you're doing. And I think you know, you can begin utilizing, you know, your social media, utilizing what you already know to connect with others to be able to purchase those type of asset classes.

You know, the cool thing is about, you know what you're describing there is that there's actionable stuff that people can go off and do and that is like you could go on air DNA and have a look at the properties which are performing in that 90 percentile and above and then actually shows you what they look like. And you can actually then click on those, see what features they've got, what amenities and, and really you're looking at mirroring that in that location if that's your desired location. And the great thing that displays obviously if you pay for it, the data of everything on there, which can give you average daily rates, overall revenue and just going out there and even if it's a, the thing is a lot of people do exactly that where they go, I can't afford it. I won't even look at that. I'll look at the, you know, the mid level or the lower level. This is, you know, I've got this budget. But you're absolutely right by either co hosting, partnering with investors who you're bringing the know how the systems, the, the day to day, you know, they're getting a great return if all they've got to do is put in the money and can get an asset that they wouldn't have known about if it wasn't for you then, then that's amazing. So I really like that you mentioned it feels like a good time to segue into the, the systems and that side of things and the processes. How are you able to manage these in four different, four different states from afar? What systems and processes do you use or tech to help you to do so.

So you know, we, we use a pms, we have a channel manager that we like to use. The one that we currently use is guesty for hosts. You know, I think that's one of my top, you know, three recommended tools for any short term rental host or anyone, you know, learning to wanting to get started in this business to ensure that they check out some of the PMS options that they may have out there. And these are channel managers. So what they essentially do for those who are listening, don't know. These channel managers allow you to manage your listings all in one platform, whether they are on Airbnb, VRBO, booking.com or even your direct booking site. And this PMS channel manager can allow you to manage your guest messaging, some of your automation rules and you know, sometimes even your cleaners sending out messages to them. And also, you know, and we like yes SD for host because we like utilizing all the different features that they have there. Another technology stack that we include or we that we think is necessary is a dynamic pricing tool. We like to use price lamps for hours and dynamic pricing tools literally helps you increase your revenue by probably 30% or more just by utilizing that tool. And so that's extremely important for any short term rental host. And let's see here, you know we have again we have properties across four states. You know, we're doing all this remotely. So working with your team is extremely important. And we actually utilize a cleaning app. So I know there's things out there like Turno, formerly Turnover, BNB as well as I think resort cleaning. I think they use that for hotels mainly as well, or boutique hotels. And so we like to use Cherno for all of our properties that helps manage our cleaners and it automatically pays them. It's got a checklist on there that allows us to ensure quality control for each of our properties and each turnover. You know, cleaners have to send pictures of each cleaning in order to get paid and complete the project. And this is extremely important because you know, we like to use those pictures and ensure the quality as well as help defend any claims that may be coming around. If you're using Airbnb or VRBO or anything else other than a direct booking site which we are going to be working on with Boostly shortly after this call.

Hey, thank you for the mention. That is appreciated and we're looking forward to seeing the direct book and website come about. But there's some awesome advice. I mean Turno, another one is Breezeway which I've used in. There's, there's these awesome ways to be able to see what is happening in your units without physically, you don't physically always need to be there. I mean don't get me wrong, it doesn't hurt to visit them from time to time, but ultimately the day to day can be managed from afar which Is which is really cool.

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Coming on to the the last few questions really which is you mentioned your units are kind of luxury. What kind of stay can your guest expect? What kind of amenities do you like to put in? What gives your guests kind of the wow factor in those five star reviews.

So you know, for example, our latest listing, we close on this property a few weeks ago. We should be going live in the next week or so. This will be number nine on our portfolio. This is a, a treehouse type build. And so it's, it's very unique. It's got a 360 deck like wraps around the entire property where you have these amazing views of the national park and of the entire area. And you know, we also have you know, a really nice hot tub there. And the design is probably one of the key things that makes it I guess quote unquote luxury. You know, on top of the, you know, the, the coffee bar, the coffee cart that we have there, we have, we, we meticulously designed it so that you know, we can, this is after doing market research because like if, if you're looking at that specific market, you have to understand that the design for that market is going to very much differ from the design of another market to hit, you know, to, to hit that luxury design. And so luxury in this market maybe may look totally different for luxury in a separate market. And so this is after doing some research and figuring out like those are type of the amenities that lot of people will pay a lot of money for. I think the 360 wraparound deck is something that is very unique in the area having that treehouse build going. And we have a little deck in the very bottom that opens up and it's got, you know, a outdoor fire grill. You know, it's got, you know, fireplace dedicated TV with the hot tub and it's got these again, these the most amazing views that you can, you can find in the area. And I think that really sets us apart from a lot of the other, you know, short term rentals in the area.

Yeah, that sounds really cool. I mean, I'd love to see it. I mean, hopefully I'll get to see on the website side of things.

But the.

You reminded me of a conversation that I've listened to a podcast. I don't know where it's picked up, but you can either, you can either make a product that somebody needs or you can make a product that somebody wants. Both are great markets, but you tend to need to choose one of those, don't you? So we talk to a lot of hosts who are serving corporate or traveling doctors and, you know, builders and that side of things. And that's something that people need. You know, they're working in the area, they need something usually longer stays or if they're workmen, they need two car parking spaces for big vans or whatever it is. Whereas when you're in the market to serve what people want, it's really fun, first of all, because you're creating something unique, but also just by what you've described, hey, I want to see it. You know, I is something which I'd like to go and stare. And this is the cool thing about what hosts are doing at the moment with some of these unique places. And of course, the added benefit to this at the moment is that OTAs like Airbnb have actually got individual categories now, which you can, you can see your listing of your category. So you know, that will appear in Treehouse. You know, hopefully the AI of the Airbnb gods will hopefully categorize right and you'll go into the right one. But yeah, this sounds really cool. What does the future hold for your business?

Let's see. We are going to continue to expand and tap into other type of markets and other asset classes. So we are actually looking into a campground at the moment. I can't say too much about it, but we are looking into a campground as well currently and looking to see what that would look like for us. And I won't say which market before I get a flood of questions and others on it, but, you know, it's a good market and this campground will provide a lot of different amenities and a lot of different type of unique stays that we hope to attract. You know, not just those who are looking for a luxury stay, but even the luxury type of glamping. I guess glamping is already luxury in itself with the word glamping. But yeah, we are looking to curate a glamping experience for our guests. And yeah, we're really excited about it, but it's going to be something, I mean, I've never done that before and so going to be a lot of lessons learned, a lot of hard work. But that would be at least the next big project that we have for our portfolio. Yeah.

Nice. I really like it. I'm excited for you. I mean, it sounds like you're doing some marvelous work and at speed as well. You know, implementing this stuff is so, so important as we reach towards the end before we share, there's going to be people who want to get in touch with. Yeah. Vinci and, and find out what, you know, where exactly that, where to invest some of the knowledge that you've shared. But before we share how they can get in touch with you, I'd just like to sort of close these with a couple of just fun quick fire questions. So answers can be as short, as long as you like, but it's just to lighten it. So where would you nervous, where would you go? These are the ones you don't get sent before the podcast. So these are the ones you never know what they're going to be. Even I don't know what they are. I've got a list to choose from. Where would you go? If you could go anywhere on earth, where would you go? Where would you say is the place which you'd recommend either others to go if you've already been there, or where would you like to go?

Man, that's a load of questions. So I would love to go back to the islands in the Philippines because I, I do believe it. It's literally the most beautiful place in the world. There's a island in the Philippines called Palawan and you know, it's made up of multiple islands and there's like, you know, Corona one. And so my wife and I went there a few years back. We spent about two weeks out in the area and it's not enough. And it's absolutely beautiful. Like the water is pristine and the food is amazing. And maybe I say this because I am Filipino and it's great being, you know, back, you know, in my, my home country. But I can, I can definitely say it's literally, it just, it transform you, transforms you out of this world, man. It's like, you know, being in a, in a time, you know, absolutely no electronics, nothing around and just enjoying being present, enjoying the nature and everything that just God has put Together for us.

I love the passion for it and it sounds beautiful. Then it sounds beautiful. Which celebrity would you most like to host in your short term rentals?

Oh man, that's a really good one. It's got to be a mix. I love the Office. Okay. I know there's a, there's a, there's a, you know, British version and there's also, you know, the here in the States version. And, and I, I've watched the, the US version, the Office, like countless times. And so having Steve Carell, you know, Michael Scott. Nice, right? The one who played Michael Scott in the, in the show. I would love for him to stay in one of our properties and kind of like just get his like peace and like, you know, narration on the whole thing. I think that would be hilarious.

That would be great. He's actually Steve Carell not for the Office, but because of Anchorman. He played Brick in anchorman, but, and 40 year old. But he's such a class actor, isn't he? And he's so funny. So yeah, that would be great fun. That'd be great fun.

Yeah. Yeah.

So as we reach the end of these Vinci, we always ask, is there a mantra or a saying that really resonates with you?

Yes, I, I do have something that I do like to tell all of my, you know, every, anyone and everyone I speak to, as well as the students that I coach. I, you know, I have a short term, I coach students in short term mentals. So if you ever, anybody's ever interested in that, feel free to DM me. That's a little, little job in here. But I, I always tell those, you know, because there's a misconception that people say knowledge is power. And I don't believe knowledge is power. I believe that application of knowledge is power. And so, you know, you can read all the books on the podcasts and watch all the YouTube videos on everything and anything about that topic, but until you go ahead and apply that knowledge, you won't really get anywhere. So apply application of knowledge is power.

So true. So very true. And it's one of the things we, we say at the end of every coaching call. We do just, just go and do something. Whatever the action is, just go and do something. Because to know and not to do is not to know. Basically, you know, like you say you could read all the books and, and, and not know it, which is, which is cool. So I'm going to throw the mic open for yourself, Vinci. How can we follow you? How can we find out more about you and is there anything you'd like to, to promote?

Yeah, see, so you can follow me. I'm pretty active on Instagram mainly and on Facebook. So you can find me. My handle is at Vinci V I N C I/ Sevilla S E V I L L A_ Junior J R. So you can find me there. And again, you know, we, I do provide coaching or short term rentals or those interested in getting into real estate investing and you know, maybe starting up their first short term rental or even for those who already have their first and want to learn how to scale from 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 10 and so forth. You know, a lot of hosts are or can be at that stage where they are trying to, they got their first one, maybe their second one, but they want to really learn how to scale and how to really, you know, grow this business. And so that's something that we do. And feel free to also join a Facebook group that my brother and I have. It's called Fire with Kids. Fire is, you know, financial independence. Retire Early With Kids. It's a Facebook group, we've got over a little over three, three and a half thousand members in there right now that talks about how to educate your young ones in financial independence in personal finance and how, you know, everyone kind of just shares their own journey with reaching financial independence with a family and having a family, which, you know, can be a struggle sometimes, you know, and so, and even if you don't have kids, feel free to join us. So, you know, we're not exclusive, we're inclusive to any and all. So. Yeah.

Is that some of the lessons? Is it Serenity, the name of your daughter? Did I catch that right?

Serenity, yes, that's my daughter.

So she's going to be well educated in personal finance. And thank you, Vinci, for sharing all of the gems that you shared with us today. On the podcast we said we were going to dive into how to reach financial independence and talking about personal finance. I think that's been at the heart of what we've talked about and I've certainly agree with so many of the points and also I feel I've learned from you, especially around the luxury side of things. So thank you so much for sharing with us. Is there any last shares before we close out the show?

No, not at all. I'll be looking forward to working with you guys on creating our own direct booking site because, you know, that is definitely, that is definitely key in this industry. Everyone, you know, your direct booking site is going to be key for the survival of your business. So I'm looking forward to that.

I'm excited, too, buddy. And, yeah, thanks again. So if you're watching this or listening to this on the Boostly podcast, we know there's a lot of places you can put your attention, and I really thank you for spending it with us here at Boostly. That's it from us for today. We'll see you on the next one. Bye for now. Thank you.

Bye. Bye.