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With the people who just jump into one in relationship from another.

Let's start with why do you think someone won't let go of a relationship?

I think the won't letting go one is more common in a way because I think we as human beings struggle to let go of things when we should. There's a famous psychological bias called the sunk cost fallacy or the what is it? Loss aversion effect. Right? It's endowment effect they call it, where the things we have are hard to let go of even when they're bad for us. That could be a job you should quit, it can be a relationship, it can be possessions. We instinctively feel the pain of the thing we have if we lose it. Oh no, maybe that thing was essential to my survival. Maybe that was a terrible decision and I can't get it back. When you're in a relationship, I think a comedian made this joke once, like, no one leaves a relationship at the moment the relationship goes terrible. Everyone waits another six months at least until they finally pack it in.

Well, let's just pause on that for a moment, because I suppose the counter-argument to that would be, if I left the moment things were bad, then I'm the kind of person that doesn't try to get through difficult times in a relationship. You know, if every relationship is going to go through difficult times and I leave as soon as it's bad, then I'm a runner, I'm a quitter. So then it brings up the question, how long should it be bad for before you leave?

Well, that's it, right? I think it's more that people don't leave when they realize there's no repair for this relationship. When people have even accepted or they think, I don't think this thing is gonna change or this has gone on too long, we still drag it out a bit longer.

What's too long though?

Well, because we might think there's no way to actually be happy in this relationship or there's no way to get my needs met. and we still kind of dither on making the painful choice. Sometimes that's just because we know that's gonna go horribly and the conversation is gonna be horrible. Sometimes it's because we secretly are just scared that we're making a bad decision or we're frightened of how we will now figure out our lives and identity without this person. 'Cause there's a whole rebuilding that goes on and it's like preparing For, you know, it's like preparing for a big dive or something. You gotta like, I gotta strap my oxygen tank on. I gotta be ready. I gotta be prepped and trained. 'Cause once I go down there, I'm not gonna come back up for a while, so I gotta be ready.

Or you might be telling yourself they're gonna change or the situation is gonna change. And I think a big question on a lot of people's minds is, am I being crazy for thinking this is going to change? And at what point do I give up on the idea that this is gonna change? You know, when is the right time to decide this is not gonna change? Or when is the right time to decide to throw in the towel on a relationship that you're trying to fix?

It's hard. It's a hard decision. I have to say more often I see people though who struggle because they can't leave rather than people leaving too early. more common is people staying too long than leaving too long.

But if you think about it, when people stay too long, a part of that is because of the justification they're doing in their mind where they're saying they're continuing to convince themselves that this might change. There's a, you know, they're, they're looking at it as it's, as if it's still a question mark. And I'm fascinated by that because It's whether it's with partners or with family members or friends, there are always going to be things that we really don't like or wish were different or, you know, that create arguments, that create friction. and we have to almost start from the place of saying our relationship with a person is the relationship we have today, not the relationship we have in the future. And there's a series of questions we have to kind of ask ourselves, which is, is it bearable as it is today? If the answer is no, something has to change immediately. If it's livable and bearable, but it's not meeting my needs in the way that I would need it to long term, then the question becomes, is this about to change? Is this something that can change and is going to change anytime soon? and that's the part where most people are not honest with themselves. All right. I had a really interesting situation where someone said to me, they were, they were talking about how their ex, they felt like their ex was right for them, but they'd just broken up the week before and and I was saying to this person, I see no reason why he's gonna change. Like, what, what indication has he given you that he's gonna change? And my friend said, well, well, I just, you know, we, we argue about this stuff. I said, but has he actually, has he actually acknowledged these things that you have a problem with? Has he acknowledged them and showed a genuine commitment? to changing them. And she said, well, he, no, he, but, you know, like, he's so many of the things that I want and so on. I said, okay, so firstly, there's no, there's not even evidence from his side that he wants to change or is willing to or is making a plan to change, is committed to change. And change is really, really hard, right? There's that Jacob M. Broad quote, Consider how hard it is to change yourself and you realize how foolish it is to think you can change. other people. It's hard to change ourselves. So expecting that somebody else is going to change, especially when they're not even motivated to, especially when they're not even committed to that change, is fallacy. And then I said, look, this person's not showing any signs they want to change. And even right now in the breakup, he's not rushing back to you saying, oh my God, I want to change this. I want to change that. And let's try this again. and by the way, in that case, you'd still have reason to be suspicious because you haven't seen the change yet. It's not proven. This might just be a panic because he thinks he's losing you and he's now saying all the right things to get you back. Now, you might give him another chance, but it doesn't mean that he's actually going to change. It just means you're giving him another chance that you feel like, okay, there's a certain level of certainty in his voice. There's a certain level of of commitment in the plan that he's given me about how he's gonna change or how he's gonna address these things in the relationship. There's enough there for me to say, I'll give this a shot, and then I'm gonna watch carefully to see if that's backed up by real action and real change. But he's not doing that. And it was so funny because she said to me, so Matt, in situations in your past, where, you know, there's someone you really wanted to be with, but you broke up. If they came running back to you and saying, like, I really want this, you wouldn't be back with them. And here's what's really telling. I said to her, But he's not even doing that. You're literally giving me a hypothetical right now as a way to calm yourself into going back to this person. For the hypothetical, you've had to say this person is rushing back to you, wanting you back. He's not even doing that. And you're coming up with this hypothetical. So it's indicative of how people con themselves, how people create a reality in their mind. that's not actually happening in real life as a way to justify giving someone more time and energy.

Right, yeah. I spoke to someone recently who was doing a similar thing and talking about a guy who clearly had no intentions of changing at all. And she was saying, well, what should I say to him then to get us back together? And we talked it through and it was clear, she was doing all the work here and this guy had shown no intention that he even thought these behaviors were a problem. But it was her saying, well, I said these were a problem. So what do we do? You know, what do I do now to keep him?

I want people to consider, especially anyone who's been through therapy or intensive coaching or has been on our retreat program. I want anyone to consider when you've been through a process like that, just how much it took on your part to actually change. Even though you'd committed to a process, even though you'd paid money down for a process, that it was still required you to really show up. and give your all to that process in order for it to work. So then you imagine the mountain that you have to climb for someone to who you're with to not be showing that they, that they. Firstly, they even have a deep awareness of what's going wrong, of what's bothering you, a true understanding, and then not saying, I'm sorry, and I want to change, and here's what I'm going to do to change, and then following that plan. If you're in the stage of just arguing with someone about something that's wrong and none of those things have happened yet, all your work is ahead of you. In fact, all the work is ahead of you if someone says that they would like to change and are willing to do what it takes. still the work is ahead of you. If someone isn't even doing that, it's science fiction, the idea that they're going to change. That is a made-up story so that you can continue to hold on to something that is terrifying to lose for whatever reason. Whether you're afraid of being alone, whether you've convinced yourself you'll never find anybody else, or more specifically, you've convinced yourself you'll never find anybody else with these qualities, or you feel like you can't handle the pain of losing this person.

And that's one thing we do, right? We think the qualities are amazing. And that's the real truth is people think there's enough good things in this person and then they try and sell themselves on the toxic behavior or the behavior that they know they hate. They try and keep reselling themselves. Well, maybe that's all right. Maybe Maybe I'm being too much or maybe that's, it's okay because they think they're smart, they have this, I'm attracted to them, I have a good relationship with their friends and, you know, it adds up and it's like, oh, this is too painful to walk away with. Maybe I can just live with this really bad thing that doesn't meet my needs.

See, I have come to believe that we, our emotions get very heavily involved in the people close to us, whether it's the person we're dating or in love with, whether it's our siblings, our parents, our best friend, even our boss. We, and even sometimes the people we employ. There are things that we may deeply want to change and may even get to the point of saying, I need to change this or I can't have a relationship with this person. But there gets to be a point in life where we've communicated calmly and in a neutral way what it is we would like to change about the dynamic where we have given many opportunities for that change to happen and space for that change to happen. And where we're, we have it confirmed over and over and over again that this change just appears to be too big of a shift for this person. Either the shift never happens at all or it it's never sustainable. It's a five minute shift, and then they always end up snapping back into their default position and behavior. And when that happens, we have hard decisions to make. We can either say, I have to remove this person from my life or from the level of proximity. to me, at the very least, that is making me this unhappy. You know, maybe they can't be in my inner circle. Maybe they can stay in my outer circle, and I can choose to have them as someone who's in my life, but who I don't rely on or who I don't have such an intimate connection with, but they can't stay where they are now. Or you can say, I am going to make peace. with this part of this person because I am continuing to complain about something that I knew about, have known about for quite some time and is not changing. And I'm still here, which means the, the kind of the, the, the the point of the problem has shifted over from them to me. That's always a truth of any relationship. There's a point at which the source of the problem actually jumps. It transfers from that person to us because that person is who they've been. Yeah, that should no longer surprise us. they are who they've been. We're now the person who's continuing to complain about old information. And we have to then look at ourselves and say, what's. What's going on with me? That I either can't leave this person and can't seem to shift my or. can't stay with this person and shift my expectation of them. Because if we stay with someone who won't change and we're unwilling to shift our expectation, then we become the reason we're complaining, which isn't excusing their behavior. In fact, it's just, you know, they could be a terrible person. But why is it we haven't adjusted our expectation of this person? What's going on with us that we're unwilling to revise our image of this person and of this relationship that we have with them? Why have we not lowered our expectation? Why do we still have speculative expectations? that are entirely speculative because they've, we've never, we've never had those expectations met in the past, not sustainably. So we still speculate on their expect, on the expectation of what they can be. Yeah. Yeah. And that's when we have to look at our, ourselves and say, I've, look, I've only got three options in life. It's either that they change. to be more of what I need, or I leave, or I stay and I revise my expectations of this relationship and this person. People stay unhappy because they don't leave, they don't revise their expectations, and that person doesn't change. so now they find themselves lodged in a state of unhappy paralysis. That's not designed to be a prescriptive kind of rant to anybody, but more a way to look at every, all of us should be analyzing our relationships and going, where am I unhappy? Because I've expected a change and continue to expect a change that's not forthcoming. But I'm not willing to leave or distance myself, and I'm not willing to revise my expectations of this relationship. That's a recipe for going mad. Yeah. So anyone listening right now who feels like they're going mad in a relationship, my guess is this will provide some, like, some. some understanding of that situation. Thank you so much for listening everyone. Remember you can always email me podcast@matthewhussie.com if you want questions answered on the show or to just give us feedback on the show and don't forget to join us on February the 25th for How to Heal from Heartbreak, my big free masterclass. You can sign up by going to love lifetraining.com it'll take you 10 seconds and then I will see you on the 25th of February.