In this interview, Matt Paulson recounts his journey from a lower‑middle‑class upbringing—son of a police officer and a school librarian—to earning a six‑figure income right out of college through web design and a side business. Initially he followed a strict Dave Ramsey‑style frugality, maxing out retirement accounts, but after five years he realized that approach didn’t fit his debt‑free, high‑income reality and shifted to a more relaxed, generous attitude, giving away large sums on the fly. He now wrestles with how to pass on financial wisdom to his 13‑year‑old son and care for his special‑needs daughter without creating a "failure to launch" scenario. Matt’s parenting strategy is full transparency: the son knows the family’s net worth, receives a weekly allowance, and is taught that money is finite and that he must earn his own living after college. On philanthropy, Matt describes the logistical nightmare of being constantly solicited by small nonprofits. To maintain sanity he created a committee that reviews donation requests quarterly, allowing the company to give consistently without personal micromanagement. He highlights a favorite cause, the Foster Network, which supplies essential items and support to foster families; two MarketBeat employees sit on its board, though Matt himself avoids board roles because the pace of nonprofit work clashes with the rapid tempo of running a $50 million business. He reflects on the tension between business speed and nonprofit/church operations, noting his personal limits and the importance of delegating or supporting in ways that match his capacity.
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The financial freedom threshold that you crossed, what has been your relationship with money? Like over the years, how you grew up and then how that threshold was crossed and how that mentally was processed.
Yeah. So we grew up lower middle class. We had a home, was very nice. Our new parents had blue collar jobs. Dad was a police officer, mom was a school librarian. Um, I had to work my way through college, so like I kind of went from a place of like having no money to like barely having any money. Didn't really know how money worked, couldn't hold on to it in high school, then like finally figured it out in college. Then kind of by the end of college, like I had a nice paying job, made like $60,000 a year doing web design, and then had my business on the side making also $60,000. So out of fresh out of school, I was making 6 figures and like, um, I'd like, I just like, I was kind of a Dave Ramsey guy for a while, so just kind of felt like I need to, need to be tight, need to hold on to this, need to max out my 401k, IRA. And then, and I, I really stuck with that for probably about 5 years after college. And then I realized like, oh, the Dave Ramsey content is not for me. Like, that's for people who are in debt. And like, I had no debt, um, had plenty of money, kind of buy whatever I wanted. And now it's just, I hold onto it, I'd say loosely. Like I gave away $10,000 of coffee this morning for a political candidate and like didn't think too much about it. And, you know, give away a lot of charity, like, you know, wife wants whatever, like, ah, go for it. Like, it's fine. And it's like, it's weird to be in a place where you've got like so much money you can, just kind of spend money and not worry about it, like, ever. Um, so now, now I'm kind of thinking, like, generationally, how do I, like, not screw this up? Of, like, um, I've got a son who's 13, and he's like every 13-year-old in the world. And then I have a special needs daughter, and I'm just trying to figure out, okay, how do I, how do I take care of my daughter and just, like, not screw up my son? And, like, because I have friends who have kind of adult kids now that also have, you know, like, they have money, and then their kids grew up having money, and like, the kids are in their 20s and don't really work. And like, I don't want that for my kids. So like, how do I not mess them up is probably my main worry these days.
What are your thoughts about how to teach money to kids or to your son?
You know, we— I don't hide anything from him. He knows basically what we have and how much, and like, he knows he's going to get a lot of it someday, but he also knows that money's not unlimited. And like, I give him an allowance every week, and when he spends it, it's gone. Um, we talk about working in high school, and a lot of kids do that. And, um, kind of made it clear, like, there's no job waiting for you at MarketBeat when you go through college. Like, you can go to college, I'll pay for it, but like, you're gonna have to get a job, you're gonna have to get your own apartment, and like, like you're going to get all my money someday, but not right away. Like, you're going to have to go through that. You can be an adult by yourself first.
It's awesome. Yeah, it's, it's really interesting because again, I don't— we're the same age. I don't know how old your parents are, but I have noticed a lot of my clients, half my clients, and I'm really good friends with my dad still, like, are all around my parents' age. And there's like this huge, like a huge number of people that have like one child at home that the failure to launch thing. And then there's a lot of correlations, I think. And it's just interesting that like money has a constraint, you know, and just teaching that, because like I end up teaching my kids that too. Like, hey, like here's how to earn it. Here's how it works. I mean, it's just, it's just interesting, interesting dynamics. How do you think about donating to charity then? Like, how do you pick the charities? How do you figure out what kind of— what does impact mean to you?
Yeah, it's really hard to give. Like, you know, Bible kind of talks about giving away 10% and that's kind of a good rule for life. And when you're like, personal income is well into the 8 figures, like it's kind of hard to do that. Like, Because like most, most, you know, small non-Christian nonprofit or whatever that's got like a budget of $750,000 a year, like you can't just give them a million bucks and like expect to have it spent well. So then you kind of got to spread it out and then like you develop this reputation of like, oh, Matt gives money to everybody, I should go hit him up. And then everybody hits you up and you're on everybody's list and it kind of becomes a thing. The way that I've been able to maintain some sanity to it is I put a committee of my people in charge of a good chunk of the money. So then when somebody wants a donation from us, they have to apply. And then like 4 times a year, the committee will meet and give money away. Then I don't have to think about it too much. And that way all of the nonprofits in town feel like, yep, Mark Meats is being a good corporate steward. We got our 5, 10 grand from them for our annual event and good for them. But I also, I don't have to think about it all the time.
You're not the one saying no all the time. Yeah.
And like, we don't— it's not even that we're saying no because we give away plenty of money. It's just like all the asks become an interruption because like it's a phone call, it's an email, it's a text, it's a Facebook message. Like, can you give to X? I'm like, giving away the money is the easy part. Like managing the whole thing and like doing communications and like sending people to the right place and like making sure like, yes, you're a legit nonprofit and like And like you give people a donation and it's like, oh, you guys, does somebody from your team want to volunteer here? Do you want to have somebody on our board? And it's just like there's no end to it. And it's like every nonprofit in town. So it just, I kind of got to kind of keep it at arm's length in a way just to maintain my sanity.
Is there any topics or specific organizations that have your heart?
Yeah, there's a bunch. One of them is an organization called the Foster Network that we support at MarketBeat. And like, they, um, what you find is like kids end up in foster care for no fault of their own. And then like, you know, it's pretty unexpected. They often have like nothing with them. So then like families can like, you know, you pick up the kid, you stop by the Foster Network, you get all the stuff you need, clothes, whatever, um, shoes, um, maybe like toiletry kit, um, you know, really anything. And that way, like, the kid has some stuff that's theirs. And then they do like support groups for foster families and stuff like that. And like, we've got two of our employees on the board. I'm not on their board because it would probably drive me crazy to be on a board of a small nonprofit, but stuff like that.
Why is that?
Oh, I just— well, when you— it's hard to slow down to that speed because when you're operating a $50 million business, it's bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, thing to thing to thing to thing. And like, there's no stopping. And Like you just can't slow down to that speed successfully. Like that's why I've really struggled to be like a church leader. Like, cause like, you know, you're trying to run an organization with, you know, often a bunch of blue collar people and like do good things. And it's just, you really struggle to like work on, you know, something you might do in business in a week, like might take 18 months at a church. And like, you just, you end up running over people by like trying to operate at business speed, you know, in a church. And So like I've had to learn that about me and like the things that I should like spend my personal time on versus like, you know, it's fine if my wife Karine is on school PTO, like perfect for her, like operates at the speed she's comfortable with. But like I would probably go in there and run over people and I should have nothing to do with it other than like, you know, sponsoring the annual fun run at school.
I'm just cracking up too, because I can resonate with the speed of things like that. I sat on a board of a nonprofit in St. Paul like 15 years ago. And when they were like asking about, like, it was like donation time and like the annual event. And I was like, well, where's the CRM? And they're like, what? And I'm like, oh boy.
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, and just, and it's interesting to hear you and what I'm hearing too is like just knowing that that's part of the dynamics that way you're, cause I've struggled with that. Like then I've, I've become too much for the dynamic.
