Building Strong Relationships in Treasury with Tanja Holden

I think the hours are different. I think I spoke to a colleague of mine roughly in my age group that, you know, for us work life balance is 9 to 5 and go home and it's changed. And maybe younger people, this is more what they've been sold that you get very flexible. You can go to your gym between 10 and 12 during the day but then maybe you're going to work a bit later. It's just a very different way of working and it suits me but it's definitely a bit of a change. I think trying to keep the boundaries, that's the hard thing. Now it's very easy to be starting work very early or checking for emails in the evening. And this blended way of working is. Yeah, blended. That's the way to describe it. I'm very collaborative and I think it's easy to want to take credit for everything and you feel you need to deliver everything. You might feel I need to be the expert in the room and I need to always prove my value. It's really hard to be humble and think we are so much better getting everyone's inputs and it's okay as a leader to not have all the ideas and I'm always happy if people in my team shy. It's hard to do that but I generally take that approach. Yeah, I'm not going to be good on my own. I am good collaborating with peers and my team. That's what makes us good. I think for me that relationship part is the biggest thing that I think about when I think of my day to day I'm always thinking about that collaboration, building my relationships and that also takes time. I'm very patient. Sometimes people say, how are you patient? Because I think things take time. Some people are quick thinkers and they can just get what you're trying to get buy in for. Others take time or they have their own stuff that's going on and they don't have time. So I generally am happy to bide my time. Sometimes if I think something's really important for the business, I don't expect to have that instant. So I've been very patient and I'm good at getting all the ideas from lots of different teams to rebuild a good business case and I think just keeping an open mind. When I really didn't expect to get into Treasury, I just took the chance. When treasury at Dyson asked me to, I thought why not see what happens? And I wasn't afraid to change direction. I think when I think of my early career, mid-20s, I didn't pass my exams. I just didn't let that phase me. I think you're young, you're resilient, and maybe that's good thing to end with that resilience that excellent. You know, just keep thinking positive. I'm generally a positive person. I guess I'm lucky that I am like that, just naturally. But I'm always a positive thinker and all the knocks that you have, process it and then just keep moving forward positively.