Dray & Baron on Warriors-Rockets CONTROVERSIAL NBA Cup finish, facing Luka & Kyrie, Dybantsa to BYU

What's up everybody? Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show with my dawg BD. What's happening?

What's up, big dawg? Follow the show on all social media platforms. That's @DraymondGreenShow so you don't miss out on our special show announcements. Now let's get right into it. The NBA Cup versus the Rockets was a tough loss. I know, I know. I've been there before. Man, you gotta—

I'll tell you.

I know, you gotta walk us through. Man, it was like a rough 5, 3, 2.

Man, listen, I, you know, been in the league now 13 years. All games are not created equal, as you know, BD. Some games you're gonna get up for more than others. Some games you're just not gonna be able to find the juice over the course of an 82-game season.

Mm-hmm.

Some games you ain't gonna be able to hit a shot. Some games the, the rim gonna be wide as the Pacific Ocean. That's just the nature of what we do. Because of that nature and doing it for 13 years, I don't get too high or too low on winning and losing a game. Especially in December. But this game in particular hurts, and I don't know why. And I think maybe it's the opportunity to play for something, you know, like just having the opportunity to compete for something is always special for me. And I have not been as hurt as I was losing that, or am. Mm-hmm. Losing that game since 2016 in Game 7.

Because— Damn, I know what that feel, I know what that mean.

If you think about it, in 2016 Game 7, I got suspended.

You got suspended, yes.

From Game 5 of the NBA, which changed the series. Like it completely changed the series, right? Like, all right, so that's 2016. Crushed because I know that we supposed to win this series. Like, it just felt like at the end of it, it just felt like something got taken away. Like, damn, like they took away what was ours. And so in 2016, I felt that way. In 2019, Game 6, Klay tears his ACL. Game 5, KD tears his Achilles. Ain't really much you can do, right?

Like—

Yeah. You lose that series.

Yeah, you get to play and you fight.

Like you move on. Like it's unfortunate. Just had a bad go at it. You know, like cool, you move on from that one, right? 2020, KD left, Steph's out with a broken hand, Klay's out with, you know, his ACL.

Yeah.

In 2021, we build him back, right? Then we win the championship in 2022. 2023, we lose to the Lakers. We just weren't good enough. Right? So like when you look at these years, or call it since 2015 and the run that we've been on, the only time where I really felt like, dang, they just took what was ours.

Mm-hmm.

Was 2016. Of where like factors were what they were and we should have won.

Mm-hmm.

That's the only time I felt like, wow, something got taken from us. I haven't felt like that since then. The last time I had that feeling as a whole was when our home got broken into back in 2022. And you just felt kind of like violated. Like, wow.

Yeah.

Like somebody took something away from us. Like that was ours. You know what I'm saying? That's the last time I really, really, really felt like that. Then you fast forward to two nights ago and it's like, wow, this our game. Like, and we're competing for something. And then it just got taken away. For me, that was one that was like, it was a gut punch, man. Like, I was up the whole—

Knock the wind outta y'all.

Yeah. Like,— I couldn't really sleep after, you know what I'm saying? Like, sleep was jacked up after. Like, it just, it just wasn't going.

Like— It was bothering me, bro. It was bothering me. And I wasn't even playing. Just like, you just keep thinking like, damn, if he just— if this—

This happened, if that—

Could have been this.

You know what I'm saying?

Or, you know what I mean?

I'm looking, I'm going back. I'm looking at every play like, Man, if I get to stop here, if I don't go for the pump fake there and give him 2 free throws, we was up 7, we get to stop there. Now we possibly go up 9 or 10, right?

And so—

Yep. You start like recounting every single play, like, and just going back like, dang, man, if literally if one play was different, if we get one more stop or one more bucket, like that game is over, right? And so you just start going back. —on all those plays. Or one good possession.

Yeah. Or one, two good possessions. He may not even score, but just great possessions to keep you in flow on defense and offense. The game over.

It's over. And so I'm going through this whole thing, bro. And I'm just like, the whole night, I'm like, you know, back and forth like, golly, man. Like, how did this game get away from us? And— Bruh, I'm like, I'm still salty about it. Like—

Yeah, but it's crazy. Shout out to— I gotta get a Raptors. I told you that's my surprise team. They just, that on one end, it's like you as a young team on the road, you need every single little thing to happen to have an opportunity to go your way. And I thought they never stopped playing. You know what I mean?

They did.

They never stopped playing hard. And then it was just the ball started just, like they just started getting favor.

Yeah, yeah.

It was like this magical favor. I do not like when the game ends on a call.

Yeah, that's crazy.

That should never determine the outcome of the game. Yeah, that's right. As you know, I told you I was Draymond Green before Draymond Green with the referees. And so I only talk to the referees, you know what I mean? Friends in the first quarter, second quarter, frenemies in the third quarter. And then depending if we winning or losing, what I say to you at the end of the game. You know, but like to be in that situation, the ref doubled down on this 2-minute report and said it was a loose ball foul, was the correct call. I personally think that he should have just shut the fuck up, called a jump ball, anything but a foul, right? Like this happened to us, and this happened to us during the We Believe year. We were playing against Washington. I was not playing, but Al Harrington fouled Gilbert Arenas Dawg, they call a foul with like 0.3 on the clock and he was driving. Those moments when you know it's like damn we got gut punched, everything got away. You can blame something on one call but it's really like if we doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo, it never happen again. That's what I feel like. And you know, it's like you need that moment in the season where you're like, "You know what?" We're never losing like this again. You know what I mean? Like, attention to detail, sharpness. And then that's also like, all right, I can't get fined for talking about the ref, you know?

Yeah.

You don't talk about it. But I know what you mean. For sure. That gut punch, 'cause it's like everything y'all could have done, just one thing the way you usually do things, everything they needed to go right for them, wrong for you, wrong for you happened in their favor. —and then—

For sure, 100%.

You know what I mean? Like, here, give me this. This doesn't belong to you.

You know, I've been on the right side of a lot of great things in this league, you know, when it comes to winning and losing. And so when it's in your favor, you can't be the guy that's like, oh man, we had the favor and like we won. And then when it goes against you, you be the one that's like, oh, I'm gonna blame everything. Now obviously, I disagree with the call. I think, you know, when I look at the whole thing shake out from the vantage point I had, I see GP dive on the ball, I see Fred VanVleet dive on GP back.

Oh man, crazy.

Directly on his back. So I'm looking at it like, oh, okay. Like, wow, they ain't calling. All right, keep playing. You know what I'm saying? Like, and then to see that call after what just happened with GP, having the ball and to also see two other referees come in like, "Jump ball." You know what I'm saying? And then one referee come in with a foul. Woo! It's like, whoa.

That's crazy. Like, are you serious?

We really doing this?

Yeah.

And like, you know, and so I was just taken back by the foul. You got a guy on his back, 80 feet from the rim, and like we call a foul and give two free throws with. That amount of time left.

Yeah, that ain't the way, bro.

No, and I thought that was crazy. Nonetheless, calls go the wrong way all the time. It's on us as players to not put ourselves in that position to where that call can affect the outcome of the game. And so when I look at all the things that went wrong, you know, we go underneath of Fred VanVleet, you know, just coming in off an inbound and he hit the 3, right? That cuts it from 6 to 3. Those are mistakes that we can't have, you know what I'm saying? I get the stop on Shingun, I need to get that rebound, I knock it off of Steph's head and go out of bounds. They get, you know, they, they get another possession, you know. And so there were, there, there were plays, you know, uh, little things, man.

It's just little, you know, kind of little errors, like 100% errors, you know what I'm saying?

For sure. You know, JK slipping off of Steph, me throwing the ball him not catching the ball, right? Bad, you know, I had too much steam on the pass so I can throw a better pass. And then my thing to JK is, and to the young guys, there's a different level of physicality at that game, at that, in the game at that point. If he grabbing your arm right there on that catch, like you gotta rip your arm away. They ain't calling that foul.

Yeah, you can't expect that.

With a minute left in the game, you know what I'm saying? So it's things like that that, When I look at all of those things, we could have done better. I know everybody made a lot about the Steph shot with 12 on the game clock, 9 on the shot clock. I actually like the shot. Number one, it's Steph getting to his left step back, which is Steph shot. That's the night-night. Like, that's what it is. Like, that's where the night-night comes from.

That's what you shot for.

Everybody's like, "Oh man, he shot the ball too soon." And I say, yeah, like in an ideal world, do you wanna run a little more clock? Yes. But we got 6 shot clock possessions in this game. Like, so you take the first good look you can get in that situation. Again, he hit that shot, we going forward, that game over. You know, we can always look back and be like, yo, like maybe he took this earlier. We could like, yeah, that's that. All right, cool. But again, he got an incredible look, like incredible look. I'm living with it 10 times outta 10. And like I said, we had had 6 shot clock violations. Taking that great look with the clock running down like that, I ain't mad at that at all. So I just think, like I said, I'm, you know, a little upset for the game to end on 2 free throws like that with a play like that. Nobody's in scoring position with all the things leading up to it. Upsetting, but— I'm not mad at it. You gotta make the plays down the stretch and give the Houston Rockets credit. They made the plays down the stretch and we didn't. A little heartbreak, man. That was a gut punch for sure. That's the first time that organization has been able to deliver a gut punch like that to me in my career. So that's new territory.

I know how you feel, man.

Newfound territory.

You know, as a flag football coach, the ref took one away from me in the championship game. You feel what I'm saying? I know how you feel about refs, and I'd like to apologize to all refs out there for my behavior at Black football. But I was right, and my son did catch the game-winning touchdown. And the ref said that the ball was out. So I screenshot the ref and texted him about 30 times until he approved that he made a mistake. And so, if we need to bring him on the show, just so people in the Flag Football League don't think I'm petty, I just know we won. You know what I mean? It's not about winning or losing. It's just when you know, hey, somebody made a mistake, wasn't my fault. You know what I mean? Somebody did something great, somebody made a mistake.

Fact.

There's winners and losers, right? But the facts, the facts is, hey, you can have the trophy. We won that game because he made a mistake. So I get it, refs, come on, man, get your mind right. Referees, man, I need to, you know, I need to, uh, I think they got even softer since Richard, since they let Richard Jefferson become a referee. He was, he was probably in the locker room just telling everybody stuff. Come on, RJ, get up off that.

That is a fact.

RJ. Yeah, but seriously, you know, like in a situation like this, you said gut punch, right? And so really, how do you, you know, how do you grow from this?

Again, I think that's just something that for us as a team, here's the thing. And again, I 100% disagree with that call being made at that time.

Mm-hmm.

But here's the thing, we've lost games like this already, so it ain't like this is the first time. And like, no, we, we've put ourselves in these positions where we've allowed games to be taken away from us at the end of games and having big leads in the fourth quarter. This has become a thing for this team, so we have to fix that. Like, yeah, we can sit and complain about the refs and like everybody in the world saw what the same thing we saw. Like, I don't sit— need to sit and harp on that. We have to figure out what it is that's putting us in these situations that's cost us now maybe 4 games already this year, 4 or 5 games. What is it that is putting us in these situations and how to fix that? That's the way this team grows. We ain't gonna grow by worrying about, oh man, that call was wrong at the end of the game. Yeah, whatever. What are you doing to put yourself in the position to where that call can affect the game?

Right.

Is what our look need to be. And that's what need to be fixed with us. You can't sit and worry about what call was made.

Yep.

What can you do to avoid that? It's our job. And that's how we gotta move going forward.

Attention to detail. That's it.

1000%.

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For one, it hurt when I'm like, all right, man, we going to Vegas, you know, the NBA Cup. Now we looking at, you know, Milwaukee, Atlanta, OKC versus the Rockets. You got any thoughts, any care? Are you gonna watch?

I think— I don't know if I'll be able to watch, man. I'm hurt, brother. I can't understand. You watch somebody just take $500 away from you.

Yeah, bro, that cup means something. We just talked about how hype it is. You know how like a second life of energy, especially in the first half of the season. So I wouldn't watch either, man. I'd be—

Yeah, I don't know if I could watch, bro. Like, I'm a little salty. I really don't know if I'm in the right mental space to watch that.

It's okay.

You watch somebody take a trophy away, you watch somebody take a— $500,000 away, that ain't no easy thing to just watch and continue on like, "Oh man, this is exciting." Yeah, let me root for somebody else.

Well, I'll tell you who I'm rooting for. I'm rooting for Houston. I do like OKC, I think that'll be a good one. And then looky, looky, guess who's in the semifinals?

They need to bring you in as a mascot, bro.

Hey, come on, bro.

You gotta bring a mascot, a consultant. Come on, man. The Coach Caller Allie, they gotta bring you in as something, man.

You gotta call me the Coach Whisperer or something, man. I told Doc, I said, "Hey man, you gotta let the wildebeest roam." You know what I mean? You got to let your Giants be Giants. And Milwaukee Bucks turning it around.

Yes, they are. They have. They have.

I mean, I think it's a testament to ride with your dogs.

Yes, sir.

You know what I'm saying? Yes, sir. You, you, those, you gotta put trust in those guys. Let them be great at what they're great at. The reason they are who they are is because of what they're great at. And I think, you know, you're watching, you know, as they've been, I wouldn't necessarily call it a winning streak 'cause I'm not sure exactly what the streak is.

They put some streaks together.

But they've been winning games. And if you look or watching, it's because Dame's playing good. And Giannis is playing good.

Big on him.

And you know, everybody else is now filling in and doing their roles. But those two guys are being the stars that they are. And it's changed the season around completely for Milwaukee. And here they are in the Final Four with a chance against the Hawks, who most people thought wouldn't even be there, you know, with a chance to move on to the NBA Cup Finals. So gotta give them a lot of credit. Gotta give Doc a lot of credit for righting the ship. D Ham over there on the bench, you know, they're moving.

Ham like 12-0 in the NBA, in NBA Cup. He like 12-0.

D Ham rolling in that NBA Cup, which takes me back to last year what I was saying. If I'm a college, I want Darvin Ham in these one-and-done situations because the adjustments that he's shown in these NBA Cups from game to game, man, you come to those adjustments, come with those adjustments into college.

Yeah, that's gonna be crazy.

Man, you win this NCAA tournament.

Easy. You wanna see the best?

See, Bill Belichick just went back to college. Man, bring Darvin Ham as a head coach of one of these top programs, I guarantee you.

You gonna be up.

You gonna have extreme success. You gonna be up.

I guarantee it. For sure. For sure, for sure.

Shout out to Chuck. Oh, Chuck Barkley. Guarantee it. Put Darvin Ham in, a college, one of these top colleges in the head coaching seat and watch what happens. I'm telling you. Right.

And then you know what I do like? Atlanta. I start watching more of them and they remind me a lot of y'all in the East. They're just a bad matchup for everybody they play. They play small. You got the boy Jalen Johnson playing like center point guard. That's legendary, y'all. Forward point guard. We got Trae Young who's just impossible to guard. But I think all the other kids, they fit in. Even the, even the rookie. I think the rookie is finding his way.

He's finding his way for sure. And, and they're not asking him to do much. You know, they're asking him to average 11 points a game. Dyson Daniels has stepped up in a major way. He stepped up. Like he averaging like 16 points a game, maybe 3.5 steals a game. He's, uh, 5 rebounds a game, 3 assists a game. Like Dyson Daniels is really stepping up. And then I'm gonna tell you the player of who, who's taking that team, I won't necessarily say to the next level because they got a lot of growing to do, but who's made this team as dangerous as they've been this early in the season is the play of DeAndre Hunter. DeAndre Hunter come in lottery pick, you know, you, you kind of see glimpses and you know, not all the time. Now you're not starting to see glimpses. Now you're starting to see him grow into the player that everybody thought DeAndre Hunter can be coming outta Virginia. Virginia, and he's starting to take that next step and become a consistent guy every night shooting the piss out the ball. And so Trae Young is doing what Trae Young does, which is always to be expected. But I think who's really changed that team, made that team dangerous, is the emergence of De'Andre Hunter becoming the guy that everyone thought he could be coming out of Virginia.

Bro, I was watching the game and he was calling for the ball. Get into a spot, hitting the shot, and then turn around back court, back down the court talking shit. I was like, oh, this is a different dude.

Absolutely.

It's a different level of confidence. What is he in his third year now?

He may be in year four or five now.

Damn, for real?

Yeah, time be flying, man.

Time be flying, dude. He was like that versatile kind of glue. That's what they needed. If you get him rocking, you know, and then they got versatile guys who are skilled that can make plays, which makes Trae Young so much more important. And it's almost like you can forget about Trae Young if they play good. And that's the last thing you wanna do. You know what I mean?

That's the last thing, for sure.

He take a lot of attention. When them dudes start hooping, you gotta pick your poison. You know what I mean?

Yeah, that's a fact. That's a fact. And speaking of Draymond Green, Draymond Green does it to the Knicks again.

Come on, dude. That's crazy.

Draymond Green owns the New York Knicks, man. He owns the New York Knicks. And that man went and kneeled down in the prison pose.

And gave him the C-Lo.

And start shooting dice. In the middle of the court on the low call. This man is a menace. He must be stopped. This man is a menace in New York City. He keeps doing it to the Knicks, man. Wow, Draymond.

Hey, bro.

Wow.

They would've had to have a GoFundMe. I'm sorry, Draymond, but if I was playing, New York would've had a GoFundMe 'cause I'd have kicked him. I'd have kicked him dice. I'd have kicked him dice and kicked him. Man, come on, New York. You gotta stop letting— Hey, dawg, he is really a Knick killer.

He is. Hey, but here's the thing though, BD. The exact reason he is the New York killer, is the Knick killer, is the same reason why he feel comfortable rolling dice on their logo and knowing nothing ain't gonna happen to him. Like they don't have anybody on their team that's gonna say, "Oh no, he ain't, like we ain't rocking with that." They don't have nobody on their team that's gonna do that. And that is one of the big problems with the New York Knicks. It's like, all right, when it comes down to it, who's that guy that's going to stop him from doing all these shenanigans and put an end to it? Who's that guy for them? They don't have that. And I think that's always one of the issues gonna be with these current Knicks.

That's one issue. Getting over that, man, come on, man. Ain't nobody about to be shooting dice.

Shooting dice, bro? That's what you said.

I came over here, I'm taking y'all money.

What? I'm taking y'all money, I'm going to Vegas, I'm shooting dice on y'all logo, and I'm out of here. I'm headed to Vegas. That's crazy.

Ice Cold got antics. I'm fucking with it.

I love it. I love it. And when you own a franchise the way he's owned them over the last few years, Ain't nothing they can do.

And they hate him so much. You know what I mean?

Absolutely.

Like that villain.

Absolutely.

Knicks, y'all should've just signed me for that game. I'd have broke that dice game up with a quickness. Facts. Facts.

You got to come off that money, son.

Hey, bro, I'd have sat there on my knee too, right in front of him.

You got to come off that chicken. Come off that chicken, bro. ASAP.

Shout out to Ice Cold, man.

Absolutely.

Yo, before we get to this next game and y'all next opponent, you do gotta tell me what's up with the refs after they heard your comments from the fans. What was that reaction?

Oh man, I don't even know if the ref end up doing anything, but it's crazy because it was at a part in the game where I couldn't really entertain him because I was locked into the game. But I heard him and I was real close to walking over there and scaring the shit out of him. I seen what he was gonna do. And I was headed over there, but I'm like, you gotta stay locked in. Like, you can't do it right now. It's wild. And I've said it, I've said it for years, bro. Like, the NBA kind of empower these fans to say what it is they wanna say. Because I know as a fan that if, for instance, this guy calls me the B-word, which again, I was like, I told him right in that moment, I'll slap the shit outta you.

Man, as you should.

I will.

Somebody.

I very much so will slap the shit outta him. No, I can't. But just to feel the comfort to say that, like.

Yeah.

I'm telling you, if it's any other part in the game and not in a meaningful game, the game would've stopped and I would've got on it. That's what really would've happened.

If you had a pizza shop, a coffee shop, any other place, you ain't gonna say that.

Not at all. Because you know what comes with that. You know you gotta back that up. And you wouldn't be sitting in that seat if you was willing to back that up. No. We not gonna even go there. But like I said, the NBA empowers these losers to say what they want because they know that if I say this and he say something back, he gonna get fined $25 grand. Just like, I'm not sure if I'm gonna still get fined from it or not, but I really can care less because it's very clear. Like you hear the disrespect, everyone in the world hears the disrespect and If you think I'm just gonna be like, "Oh," that ain't never gonna happen. So it is what it is, but stop empowering these losers. And if they know they can get they ass kicked, they won't say that.

Yeah, they need to get they ass kicked outta the game 'cause it mess everything up for the fans. Like, I like the fans who boo and hate and talk shit, but the ones who cross the line and know they crossing the line, you fucking up the game.

Absolutely.

Like you come in there with a whole agenda. You know what I mean? Like I remember when I was in, when we played in the playoffs in Utah and it was this little white girl and she was behind the basket. She had to be like 8, 9, maybe 10 years old. And she was going, "Baron Davis go." Hey, Doc, the whole game.

That's right.

Every time I shot a free throw, I saw this little girl underneath the basket going, "Baron Davis, fuck you, fuck you." And I didn't hear nobody else, but I could hear what she was saying. So I wasn't really tripping, but that kind of threw me off. Like, damn, dude, this little girl really hate me. It's crazy because it throw you off They came to the game, they was in the car like, "All right, you gonna sit here and you gonna say F you to Baron Davis the whole night." And worked the other side of the court.

Imagine teaching your kid to be a heckler. Imagine teaching your kid to show up to someone else's job to be a heckler. Man, you teaching your kid to be a loser from the beginning.

Oh man, shout out, speaking of that, shout out to my dog Mad Moves, rest in peace. He was one of my trainers. Uh, he was a professional heckler. He would go to comedy stores and heckle people. And I was like, "Bro, why would you tell me something like that?" That's hilarious. So there's people like that out here, man. It's like, you know what? This is a profession.

It is, but let them learn that as they grow. Don't teach no 9-year-old that that's what it gotta be for you just because that's what it is for you as a parent. Don't teach your 9.

Keep it peace, Sid.

Don't teach your 9-year-old to be a heckler, AKA a loser.

Oh man, next up is the Dallas Mavericks. The last time y'all played, that was outta the game. They got one of the most incredible backcourts in the NBA. Talk about, you know, Dallas, the way they playing. But most importantly, when you going up against the dynamic of a Luka and Kyrie and what that means.

They're playing really well. Obviously they had Luka go through an injury earlier in the season. They actually started finding a rhythm with Luka out and then Luka came back and they continued to trend in the right direction. You know, when you have Luka and Kyrie on the court, there, there's just problems that come with that. You got two guys that can get a bucket anytime they want. That's gonna draw so much attention and open up other guys. You know, that it makes that team, you know, a very difficult team to guard. You see like OKC the other day was like, we're not letting Luka beat us. We're gonna make everybody else beat us. And they had some success with it. Mm-hmm. Ultimately, When you're facing guys like that, that's kind of decision you usually have to make. Are we gonna make Luka and Kyrie beat us? Or are we gonna do all we can to take those two guys out and make everybody else beat us? And that's kind of what it boils down to. Everybody have their theory. I don't think one theory is right or wrong. I think, you know, you put that theory in place and then who's the guys that's gonna go out there, compete and execute it? You know, when you're guarding Luka, I don't think people ever realize how big Luka is. He's 6'8".

Mm-hmm.

And he can see over everybody. Got an extremely great passer. You can't just guard him to stop him from scoring. You also have to guard him to try to take away his passing angles as well. And it's just a tough thing to do, right? Like, you don't want to overreact on his drive to the rim because once he— if you overreact and he step back, he's 6'8". You can't contest the shot. But yet if you stay even with him, he just gonna keep going and keep you on his hip and he can finish because he has such great size. So Luka's always a tough guard, uh, when guarding him. And then I always just talk about Kyrie and guarding Kyrie. Like I always speak about it more so from the help position. Like when you're helping on Kyrie, you gotta help so early because he's so dangerous at every scoring position on the, on the basketball court. Whether it's at every level. Kyrie is extremely dangerous at every scoring level on the basketball court. You kind of have to be over, more overaggressive on your help with Kyrie because he can score from anywhere. Whereas most guys you like, yo, we don't need to get the aggressive till he get here. But Kyrie is everywhere on the court because he's, is an elite scorer at every level on the basketball court.

No offensive deficiencies.

Zero.

Neither one of them. That's rare, yo.

As crazy as this sound, BD, Luka probably has more offensive deficiencies than Kyrie. And that's crazy to say because Luka is one of the most skilled, one of the best players we've ever seen. But like, Luka doesn't catch and shoot as well as Kyrie catches and shoots, right? Like, Luka shoot the piss out the ball. We all know that. But he doesn't catch and shoot as well as Kyrie catch and shoot. Kyrie literally does not have a deficiency on the offensive end. It's crazy.

Man, also, what do you think about the potential of AJ Dubonca? I like him. And then he going to BYU.

Crazy, man.

BYU got the number 1 player in this class.

Welcome to the NIL.

Welcome to the NIL.

Welcome to the NIL, where BYU can get a kid like AJ Dubonca to come there for a year, because he'll be there for a year, Draymond Green, there's reports that he's been paid somewhere around the $7 million mark.

7 Ms, y'all.

Wow. More power to him.

6 feet college, bro. If I can give players $7 million, man, let me go do some recruiting.

Listen. $7 million to go to BYU is insane. What is viewed as success though? Like—

Right, that's what I'm saying.

What's the marker for success? Like, so you pay him $7 million essentially for 6 months.

To go to the tournament.

Which by the way, shout out to AJ. Brother, you just made the biggest bag you gonna make in your life per second and per hour. Because to get $7 million for about 5 months of work, it's absolutely insane. Now granted, this kid is gonna have like, with the potential that he has, he'll have incredible earning potential. Incredible potential. $7 million to go to a college campus for 5 months and not even have to win. Like they don't have to, I don't know what success is viewed as for them.

What are the measurements?

But I know it's not win a championship. And so to go somewhere and like get $7 million or whatever it is around that and not have to win a championship, that brother hit a lick, man. Shout out to the young fella. You know, he doing big things. I've heard a lot about him. I've heard, you know, just he plays winning basketball, which I love. And so shout out to the young fella, get your bag.

Yeah, I heard he's good. I heard he's humble. You know, he's presentable. You know, Coach Jason Crowe said when they played Inglewood, you know, he thanked them for the opportunity. You know what I mean? He knows the players, know who people are. So it's like, man, you wanna get the money to somebody that's gonna be responsible. And this kid is, definitely gonna be responsible for his talents and what he bring and that energy he bring every day.

Absolutely. I think when you look at the makeup of how he's going about his business and all the things that you just said, which I've been hearing as well about him, he looks to be on a LeBron James-like path where he got things in place around him where they have a system. They're not stepping outside of that system and he's building himself up. They're building him up to be the face of a lot of things. And just knowing how to carry himself, being the number one guy for the last 2 years and carrying that with so much grace, like LeBron James, I think is something that I admire. So shout out to the young fella, keep doing your thing.

Shout out to AJ.

It's super dope to see and refreshing to hear about that type of professionalism in a young guy who's coming in and saying, "No, I'm gonna take on all that." So oftentimes now you got these young guys wanting to challenge the system, you know what I'm saying? Wanting to challenge, "I can do this my way and do this this way." Or wanna be cool. You know what I was just about to say, like— Be cool. Get that cool shit in, come on. Yeah, like, "I need to be this way." Like, nah, man, stuff sells and it looks a certain way, period. And doing it your cool-ass way ain't worked for nobody, it ain't gonna work for you. So it's good to see a young fella like this, but kind of with that old school mentality of doing things. And you know— No. The amount of success that he's gonna have in doing things that way, it'll benefit him in the end. So shout out to the young fella and also shout out to y'all. That's a wrap. Oh, by the way, make sure that y'all check out these interviews that we got coming over the next couple weeks. We got some great interviews we've done. I hope y'all enjoyed him as much as we enjoyed him. So be on the lookout for that. And like BD told y'all at the beginning, follow the page for the show @DraymondShow on X, formerly known as Twitter, so you don't miss any announcements. But that's a wrap from this episode of the Draymond Green Show with my dawg BD.

We out. Appreciate you.

Peace. Hello.