Draymond Almost Traded For Giannis? Wizards Get Anthony Davis & Warriors Acquire Kristaps Porzingis

What's up everybody? Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show. On today's show, I'm still a Warrior. The trade deadline has come and gone, and I got a ton to say about it. Big episode today. Let's get right into it. [MUSIC] The Draymond Green Show is proudly presented by Grooms. Grooms proves that you can do the least and still feel the most, thanks to a delicious daily habit that does the heavy lifting. Save up to 52% off with code Draymond at Grooms.co. That's code Draymond at gruns.co. Before we get into the trade deadline stuff, just need to have a quick reaction level set from last night's game. Last night, Dubs win in Phoenix 101 to 97. 14-point lead in the fourth quarter comeback, which was, Great for the morale. You know, around the trade deadline, everybody's kind of on edge, antsy, what's next? Who's coming? Who's going? You know, am I staying? Am I going? Like, that's just kind of the trade deadline in a nutshell. You know, it's a very interesting thing, man. You turn on, you know, not turn on, but you click on Twitter or, you know, you click on Threads or, Instagram, and like you see people like, yo, get this person outta here, send this guy here. And like they, the reality is, is like if you went up to these people and was like, yo, move this person to San Antonio tomorrow from Milwaukee, or move this person to Indianapolis from Los Angeles tomorrow, like their job says so and they have no say, you just gotta go. Like how, what would people do? Like the people that get on there like, "Ah, do this, move this person, move that." Like if they told you tomorrow, like, "Yep, your job moving you," and you got no say, what do you do? I've actually seen that happen before growing up in Saginaw, Michigan. When the car industry went down, you know, Saginaw is a city based on, or built on plants. Mm-hmm. On manufacturing plants, specifically GM manufacturing plants, General Motors. And in 2008, when 2007 and 2008, when the crash and all that happened, the car industry got crushed, a lot of people were forced to move to Kansas City or Dallas. And it was like next day, like, yo, you got like a week to leave. Like this plant's closing down. You can move to these two plants or, you could take this buyout. If you take the buyout, there's no next thing. You know, like when we were growing up, when I was growing up in Saginaw, you like, I wanted to make it to the NBA. If I didn't, like, I'm gonna work at the plant. Back in the day, you'd have people making $50, $60, $70, $80 an hour just working in the plant. And in Saginaw, you could create a great living off that. So that was it. But there's no next, like you take the buyout, there's no next thing because there's no more plants. Everything's just going down and you're taking the buyout probably because you don't want to move. So how do you find that thing again? I've seen that happen before in normal life. I find it very interesting when I see people like, oh man, send this guy there. It don't matter. Sit. And it's like, yo, you don't realize the impact that it has on people's lives. Buddy Hill, Jonathan Kuminga, like they gotta uproot their family from the Bay Area, move their family to Atlanta or a different location because you don't know the certainty of that and you don't want to keep up and moving them. That's a real thing. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So the trade deadline sucks. Because it's human beings. But you have no say over your life and what happens next and where you go and if you go, like, that's just it. You know, and so it's a shitty thing, man. It's actually one of the shittiest parts of playing in the NBA. And I know what the idiot's gonna say, like, "Oh, they pay you a bunch of money to do." Like, shut up. Your job pay you whatever they pay you too. And just because you get paid a certain amount of money does not make it fair, does not make it feel good, does not make it right. It just doesn't, you know? And so it's a little shitty. But anyway, before I go deep into the trade line, let me just finish off with this game. This game last night was insane. 14-point comeback in the fourth quarter, needing to reset. After the trade deadline, Gui Santos has a game. He's going back and forth with Dylan Brooks. Dylan Brooks is trying to pick on Gui Santos, trying to talk him off his game, trying to scare him, whatever it is that he's trying to do. And he gets a bucket, Gui go right back at him, get a bucket and start talking to him. I appreciated the referees for not calling the tech on Gui Santos for taunting because sometimes they get that way. Especially when they had just let it go on the other end. But Gee was talking back. And one thing about Gee, he don't back down from anything. And I think Dylan Brooks found that out last night. You know, he thought he had a guy that he was just gonna talk crazy to because he probably don't know his name or, you know, Gee Santos is not a known NBA player just yet. And so he thought like, "Oh, I'm gonna just talk to this guy. I'm gonna get him." And Gee answered the bell. Yeah. Every single time. Big threes, big defensive plays, getting to the cup. It was beautiful to see. I spoke about it a little bit in my press conference last night on what, what gets you on the court in the NBA. People always say, man, why that guy can't get on the court? Why this guy can't get on the court? Because that guy never figured out what it was that can get him on the floor. Mm-hmm. Just because you're a scorer don't mean scoring's gonna get you on the floor. Something else may need to get you on the floor so that you can then go score. That's how the NBA works. So coming outta college, I was a scorer, I was a playmaker, but the thing that could get me on the court on the team that I was on at the time, which still the same organization, not the same team, but the thing that could get me on the court was defense. Go and get stops, go and get a rebound. That's what could get me on the court. So that's what I locked in on. Once you lock in on something that gets you on the floor, it's hard to change it. That's— you can grow, but you must always do that thing. And so Gui Santos has worked his way onto the court by figuring out what is it that can get me on the court? Oh shit, it's offensive rebounding. It's crashing the glass every single time a shot goes up. That can get me on the court. What do you see once you get on the court? You see that he's a really good shooter. You see that he can put the ball on the floor and get to the rim. You see that he has good footwork around the basket. You get to see all of those things, but those are byproduct of him going out and offensive rebounding. And so Gui Santos found what it was that can get him on the floor. So for all you fans out there, when you're like, oh man, this guy can't get on the floor, what is that? Why can't this guy who shoots the 3 at 45%, why can't he get on the floor? Because he hasn't found the thing that's going to get him on the floor so that then he can take advantage of being a 45%. 3-point shooter. And that's kind of how this league works and how roles work. So Gui Santos had it going last night. Pat Spencer had it going last night. And it was beautiful to see. DeAnthony Melton had it going. Al Horford, great game. Complete team effort. Moses Moody, really good game. Complete team effort. Moses didn't score a bunch. His defense was great. Yeah. Made it tough on Dylan Brooks. You saw the last possession, threw him all off. Had him almost at the scorer's table, losing the ball, scorer's table, come back, go back, scorer's table, come back, switch D'Anthony Melton, climb up, tough shot, miss, rebound, game. Right? Like— This is— what it's like when you're missing your top guys, top scorer, Steph, Jimmy. Trade deadline, you're missing Buddy, JK, haven't quite added the piece that you traded for. And then a whole team pull together when it ain't going right and a complete team effort. You're talking a team that was up 90 to 76 with— Draymond Green. 9 minutes to go in the game, finished with 97 points. That's a team effort. And guys contributed in ways that some guys don't normally contribute, but that's what it calls for when guys are out. Next man up mentality. That is the next man up mentality. That's it right there. And so beautiful game to watch. Some— Yeah. I always tell you all, there's this cliché that, "Oh man, every game in the NBA is the same." It's not. Some games are bigger than others. Some wins are bigger than others. And that was a big win just to like boost the morale of the group. Obviously we still got goals. You know, you still wanna give ourselves a chance at a playoff spot, chance to make a run. You need these wins. You need to grab some of these wins while Steph's out. Need to grab some of these wins while you're trying to get Porzingis in the lineup. You need to grab some of these wins. And last night was a big step, especially, you know, for a team that's not too far ahead of us in the standings. Division game, right? Like, some wins are bigger than other ones. And last night win was one of those wins that just bigger than others because of all the things going on. Yeah. How do you stop the boat from rocking? And that's what guys did last night. So that was a huge win. Moving on, my thoughts on the Warriors trade deadline, acquiring Christos Pazinakis from Atlanta, Jonathan Kuminga, Buddy Hill to Atlanta. Number one, first and foremost, Jonathan Kuminga, to watch a kid come in at 18 years old with all the promise in the world, 7th pick in the NBA draft, and to watch his growth, to build a relationship with him, I enjoy. And the relationship don't stop. That's my little bro. It's gon'— that don't end. But what stops every day is seeing each other every day. What stops is watching work every day. What stops is being teammates on the day. That's what stops. The brotherhood don't change one bit. That'll only get stronger. But to watch a young kid come in with so much promise, come into a situation that most 7 picks in the NBA draft don't come in. To win a championship as a rookie and just continue to grow regardless of what the circumstances were. When you're the 7th pick in the NBA draft, you usually go to a place where they're gonna give you the ball, they're gonna allow you to make a ton of mistakes and you grow through those mistakes in hopes that you become a key cornerstone franchise piece to the rebuild of the team that, drafted you with the 7th pick. That is usually the path of a 7th pick in the draft. You're usually not drafted to a team that's good enough to compete and win a championship that year. You're usually not drafted to a team that's won 3, soon to be 4 championships in the last 7 years of you being drafted. That's usually not the case. Yeah. And so that's the hand Jonathan Kaminga was dealt. And I thought he handled it as about well as anyone can handle it. From 18 to 22, 23 years old, he handled it, handled it as about well as anyone can handle it. And so I applaud him on that. And I thank him for that because if he don't handle it well, I have to deal with that. And so I appreciate the way he handled it, the maturity that he showed in handling the situation the entire time. Even when the writing was on the wall and we, everybody in the world kind of knew a trade is gonna happen, he handled it with grace and class. And so I applaud him. Mm-hmm. And I wish him well on the journey to Atlanta. That he can go thrive, that he can go become a cornerstone of that franchise with Jalen Johnson. Those two guys running down at you in transition, good luck. So that's my hope for Jonathan Kuminga, and it's been an honor to be one of his vets. I'm forever grateful. Buddy Hill. Buddy Hill. Buddy Hill. Left a mark. Buddy Hill is one of my favorite teammates of all times. To see him go, you feel the gap, you feel the hole, you feel it. Like— It's like I said before, it's the shittiest part of the business. And— You're talking about a guy that no matter what, no matter what the playing time was, no matter if he hit 7 threes in the game or missed and went 0 for 7, attitude's the same. No matter if he was playing starting, coming off the bench, or getting DMPs, attitude the same. No matter if it's rain, Snowing, sun shining, or just a normal spring day, attitude the exact same. And when you get guys like that in your organization, they leave marks. Buddy Hill left a mark. Most people won't understand. But you line up, you get in your circle after starting lineup, you do your thing. Our thing's Buddy Hill's dance. Yesterday, the team circled up and Buddy Hill's dance was done. That's leaving your mark on a team. Everybody won't always leave their mark in the, by way of 4 championships or 2 champ— that's not always the hand that's dealt, but that's how you leave a mark. And that's how when you leave a place, you make sure you can always go back to that place. That's a beautiful thing. And one thing I'm certain of is Buddy Hill, No matter what happens in his future, he can always go back to that place because of the mark he left. And that's a true professional. That's a great person. And all of which Buddy Hield is. So I'm forever grateful to be his teammate. And also, the brotherhood don't stop. Trace Jackson Davis. Young fella who I tried to teach everything I know. He down there with me and Loon, the Bigs, and just trying to help him learn things that ultimately will aid in him becoming a 10+ year NBA player. Because I think he has the skillset to do so. And he was a sponge. He'd ask a million questions. He'd sit there. He'd never cut your answer short. Mm-hmm. If you answer the question for 5 minutes, he gonna sit there and look at you, be like, "Okay, all right, uh-huh, got it. Oh, this." He said, "What do you mean by this?" "Okay." And as a vet, that's all you can ever ask for. Like, for me personally, I'm always trying to get a game to the young guys. Because what I'm gonna do with it when I'm done? Just take it with me? So I always try to get a game to the young guys. And Trace is one of those guys that he's a sponge and he listen. And it's unfortunate that it didn't work out for him here. 'Cause I always thought that there's a role that he could have. But NBA is a numbers game. It's a numbers game. And sometimes it just don't work out. But I think he's going to a team that needs some size. I think the experience that he's gained in playing with the Warriors will benefit him on, with the Toronto Raptors. And I think he'll get a great shot at playing to extend his career and build the career that he once was thought to have and what he believe and what I believe he can have. And so I'm looking forward to Trace ballin' in Toronto and becoming the player that we know he can become. Mm-hmm. But man, seeing all three of those guys leave sucks. It's like I said, you, every day you see someone and all of a sudden just like that, they're gone. And so that is our team with the trades. Looking forward to bringing in Kristaps Porzingis. I think what he adds to this team from a, obviously he's an incredible shooter, What he can do when guards switch and he take 'em to the post or to the free throw line and punish 'em and shoot right over 'em. Incredible. But a lot of people switch because of the shooting possibilities, you know? And so I think he adds, you know, with losing Jimmy, you know, you get a switch, different players for sure, but you get a switch and you throw the ball to Jimmy and he attack it and create offense off of it. And losing Jimmy, I think Chris Stoppes can add some of that and that'll be good for us. And then defensively, you know, he's a very good rim protector. For myself personally, I love playing with great rim protectors because I myself is a rim protector, but it allows me to do other things out on the floor defensively. It allows me to take chances. It allows me to go muck something up because I know I got rim protection behind me. It really changes the game. Yeah. Defensively. And I think when I got a rim protector, it really opens my full arsenal on the defensive end. So I'm excited to play with Kristaps Porzingis. He was a very important piece that the Boston Celtics was missing ultimately to then get him and win the championship. And so I'm hoping that he can bring that same juice here, you know, and you know, I know he has something to prove. He's in a contract year, looking forward to getting him back out there. You know, so, you know, I think overall under the circumstance, I like the move. I think, you know, like I said, Christos Porzingis can really help this ball club. He will help this ball club. Looking forward to getting him back out there on the court. I know people's been like, oh, he's been injured. But like, we got the best training staff, medical staff in the business. They've done their homework. And I believe in the homework that they've done, Rick Celebrini and his group. So. Looking forward to getting Christos Przingis out here, getting him on the floor with us, getting him acclimated to what Warriors basketball is and how we go about things and the playbook and all of this. Looking forward to that. I think it comes at a good time for us, and we'll see what we can do with it. I'll be honest, healthy habits have never been more important. So this year, I actually found a routine that's much easier to stick to. Grooms. Feels like doing the least, works like doing the most. A simple, delicious daily habit that makes a real difference without overhauling my life. 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My experience in trade talks, it's really the first time my name has really been mentioned in some serious trade talks outside of like maybe the first year of my career where I would've been a throw-in or second year throw-in. This is the first time it's really happened. And you know, an interesting thing is talking to AV yesterday, one of our assistant coaches, Anthony Vereen, And the reality is, is like the way you protect yourself from that is winning. When you're winning, does not happen. When you're not winning, everything becomes a possibility. And so for 13 and a half years, I have not dealt with that. And I must tell you, it was a very interesting experience. Initially, I just ignored it because I'm like, whatever. Yeah. You know, like, I will outta there. People talking. And you know, as it get closer, it become more real. People starting to ask specific questions and all of that. The questions are mounting and ramping up. And man, you know, then I have my conversation with Steve. All right, man, this is real, huh? Like, all right. Then I have a conversation with Mike. And Mike pretty much just told me, he was like, hey, you know, so, We're looking at another trade. He texted me, he said, "Call me, it's not urgent." Not urgent. "Call me when you get a chance." So I'm like, "All right, not urgent means I'm not about to get traded." You know, and I called and he asked me about a couple deals. "What do you think of this deal? What do you think of that deal?" "Yo, this deal, I think this." And we talked for quite a while. And then he's like, and by the way, on Giannis front, like obviously we spoke to Giannis, spoke, by Giannis, we've talked about what picks we'd send them. We haven't talked about really the players that will go into the deal. But obviously if we were to do a deal with Giannis, you or Jimmy would have to be in the trade just to make it work. But we're not even there yet. We're not that far down the road. I'm not even sure it's gonna happen anyway. But just so you know, all the speculation out there and what people saying, Some of it's true, but all the stuff that they're saying is true. I'm like, all right, cool. But what it said to me in that moment was, okay, there's a chance I may get traded for Giannis because he didn't rule it out. He didn't say, we're not putting you in the deal. He said, there's a chance that you would have to, one of you and Jimmy would have to go on the deal. So I took that as, all right, it'll probably be me. That's just how I took, what I took away from it. And, you know, after that, you know, I spoke to my wife, I spoke to my son in particular, just because his situation, it could change drastically, you know? And so spoke to him, we was driving to the game actually, it was a good conversation. Like, "Whatchu mean get traded? Why would they trade you? That don't make sense." I'm like, "You know, DJ, if a team wanna get better, they, you know, sometimes make trades." "But you think they gonna be better without you?" I'm like, "I don't know, DJ. They think so though, so we'll see." But it was weird. You know, you're just kind of sitting in this holding pattern wondering what's to come. Whether it's the next couple minutes, whether it's the next couple hours, whether it's next couple days. Future uncertain, in limbo, not knowing what's next. Am I getting traded to Milwaukee? If I'm getting traded to Milwaukee, am I staying in Milwaukee? If I'm not staying in Milwaukee, where I'm going? If I'm only going there for half a month, is my fam, for half a season, is my family coming? What the hell is going on? I don't know. It's the first time I've ever dealt with that. And what I'll say is coming out of it, number one is you come out of it with appreciation of what a, a lot of NBA players, the majority of NBA players has dealt with. You come out of it with gratitude for the journey that has been and not having to deal with that. But even more so than dealing with that, just the journey that it's been. You start to replay the memories and man, when it first began and— Yeah. Is this the end? And if this is the end, what does it look like for me there? For me from there? It's a very interesting space to be in, answering everybody's questions. You're almost answering them as if you're getting traded in some of the questions that, then if like, it's just weird. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And to be honest with you, like I said, I gained an appreciation and a gratitude But I also walked away from it like, yo, that's not something I wanna keep dealing with. So what is it that I have to do so that I don't have to keep dealing with that thing? Because it's just nerve-wracking. Like, it's nerve-wracking. And I just didn't love the way it made me feel. And so you immediately ask yourself, what is it that I have to do so that I don't continue to go through that? That's where I stand. It's like, okay, what do I have to do so that that isn't something that I'm dealing with every year for whatever the rest of my career is, whether it's 1 year, 2 years, 3 years, whatever it is, what is it that I have to do so that I'm not dealing with that every year. 'Cause that didn't feel good. But like I said, most importantly, it gave me an appreciation for what other guys have gone through in this league. Because I just, I don't know. You don't know what you don't know. And that's something that, one of the few things in being in the NBA for 13 and a half years that I just don't know because I didn't have that experience. Now I have the experience, but like I said, it's not something that I wanna get used to. Overall as a franchise, I think, you know, one thing the Dubs continue to show is like that the Dubs wanna be competitive. Joe Lacob's never gonna be okay with just losing. That's just not how he roll. Never gonna be okay with it. And you know, you just keep making moves to try to help get over the hump while also not, blowing up the future. But always gonna try to stay competitive and give ourselves a chance. And when you know what we know, you know, you just need to get in and give yourself a chance. And that's our goal, you know? So as the Dubs move forward past the trade deadline, thank God, you know, we look to go on a run similar to what we did when we got Jimmy last year. Obviously Jimmy Butler's not walking through that door anytime soon, but we gotta figure it out. And that's the goal. That's what we'll be working on. And we'll see what happens. After the break, I'll go around the association, break down the biggest trades and what I found most interesting. Be right back after this. If you're short on time but still want a gift that actually feels personal, listen up. Jenny Bird is the shortcut. 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First up, we got the Utah Jazz receiving Jaren Jackson, Jaques Landale, John Conchar, and Vince Williams Jr. For the Grizzlies to receive Walter Clayton Jr., Kyle Anderson, Taylor Hendricks, Georges Niang, and 3 first round picks. My overall consensus of this deal is number one, and most obvious, is that the Grizzlies are going into a full rebuild. So you kind of knew that that was gonna happen, or that they were kind of going into a rebuild when they traded Desmond Bane for, obviously they brought back KCP, but they brought back 3 first round picks. And so you weren't going for all that you can get as far as player compensation, you were going for what you could get mostly in draft compensation. So you send Desmond Bane to the Orlando Magic for 3 first-round picks. That was the first indicator of we're going into a rebuild. Now the second indicator was Grizzlies are looking to shop Ja Morant. Only to get to the third indicator of them not trading Ja Morant, but to ultimately move on and trade Jaren Jackson Jr., who's cornerstone piece of their franchise, Draymond Green, who they just signed to a mega extension this past summer, ripped up his old deal and moved right into, or, you know, added the extension. Didn't, you know, with Jaren, his old contract was like, it was going in reverse. So it wasn't going up. It was actually going down each year. And when you get those types of contracts, it's tough when agents sign those types of contracts because You can negotiate on the last year of your deal, meaning you negotiate, you take the last number and you get, you know, if you've been with that team, I think it's 7.5% increases each year. And you negotiate off that last number. But what they did with Jaren Jackson was they made him the designated player on the franchise so that they can ultimately give him the full max. And then you ultimately trade him to the Utah Jazz. Again, signaling, signaling a complete rebuild. And yes, they ultimately held on to Ja, but the reason they traded Jaren was because Jaren's, his stock was higher. You know, they were able to get back 3 first round picks, a lot like they got back for Desmond Bane. So with 2 of their top 3 guys and what they have been building over the last 5, 6 years, they got 6 first round picks back for them. That is a rebuild. When you're looking at the success of Oklahoma City, they did the same thing. Took a bunch of picks back and started to build through the draft. Obviously they got Shea and the Paul George trade and a bunch of picks, and that was kind of the start of it. Memphis is now looking to take this same approach as a small market team. Okay. And they're stocking up on the draft picks. The Utah Jazz had been taking that same approach as well. You know, they give up some first round picks to ultimately bring in who could be a cornerstone of their franchise. Perennial All-Star, he could be, Jaren Jackson Jr. I found this move very interesting because it was just, you know, we were sitting on the plane last night, Steph, myself, D'Anthony Melton, And we're laughing because I'm like, damn, Melt, y'all whole core of that team y'all had in Memphis is gone, except Ja. And he like, yeah, our whole core is gone. I'm like, yeah, 'cause y'all was getting y'all ass whooped by us. He's like, we was at y'all. I'm like, yeah, that's the mistake y'all actually made. Y'all came out saying, yo, we at the Warriors, we gonna beat them, we better than them, we good in the West, we this, we that. Towards those guys. I said, then y'all run up against us and you can't beat us, but you've talked all the stuff about how you supposed to beat us or how y'all should have beat us. I said, and it's funny because when it was happening, we would sit back and we would say to each other like, yo, they just like Houston. They calling us out. They saying they gonna beat us. They built to beat us, this, that, and the other. Then once you lose, you can't turn away. Because you can't beat the team that's on top. So they did the same thing. We ultimately going to win a championship, start plucking the pieces away. Melton gone, Dylan Brooks gone, Kyle Anderson gone. And that's just the beginning of how it goes. And so now you look at this team and they're about to go back through a rebuild. They just went through that 6 years ago, 5 years ago. They're about to go back through a full rebuild. In saying that, I do love that in this trade they were able to get Walter Clayton Jr. Taylor Hendricks was a very high draft pick that hasn't quite panned out in Utah since having a very catastrophic leg injury. You got those two young guys to go along with all the young guys that Memphis already has. And I think for Memphis, while about to go through a rebuild, you take a swing on Walter Clayton Jr., who was huge and played great in the NCAA tournament last year, and Taylor Hendricks, who's ultimately a wing with incredible length, incredible size, to see if you can get 'em to pan out and they can become pieces of the rebuild. But that's kind of the thinking behind the Jazz-Grizzlies trade. Vince Williams Jr. was traded to the Jazz. I told y'all last week when he was standing there arguing with Ja, like it's his team and like Ja's messing them over. Brother, they will trade you. And as fast as they could. So like I said, I don't know what their conversation was. I don't know what sparked it. But if it was anything like, yo, Ja, what you doing to this team? That ain't your place. And I said that, and guess what? Vince Williams is with the Utah Jazz. So for you young guys out there, I hope you can understand, take a peek at that and understand, know your role in an organization. It's not Vince Williams Jr.'s job to be checking Ja Morant. It's never gonna be the case. And stuff like this happens when you do that. In other news, the Clippers received Darius Garland and a second round pick. The Cavs received James Harden. I think this is a good move for both teams. I think the Clippers getting a young point guard in Darius Garland, that regard, you know, we'll talk another move by the Clippers, but regardless of what they decide to do, Darius Garland can fit. If they decide to keep trying to win now, Darius Garland can fit. If they decide, We're about to kick the can down the road a couple years. Darius Garland's still young enough to fit, you know? And so I think good move by the Clippers in that aspect. You get a second round pick, whatever. Cavs get James Harden, and I also think they got better. You know, there's just always been a thing with DG and Donovan Mitchell being both smaller guards. It's hard to win at an elite level in this league with two small guards. Yeah. You got one small guard, you can do it. Two small guards, it's tough. And so now you add James Harden. What does James Harden do? James Harden unlocks Jared Allen as a live threat. James Harden is gonna further unlock Evan Mobley. And I think, you know, take some of the pressure off Donovan Mitchell as far as the offense goes. But I like this move a lot. What this move signals to me is, The Cavs are gonna go for it right now in the next year, maybe two. And then as a small market team, you get up against the tax and all those things, you usually have to reset. But going to get James Harden signals to me that they're trying to go for it right now. Maybe they're trying to get a championship this year, championship contention this year, next year. And then you kind of gotta figure it out with this new hard cap that I always talk to you all about. That's what this move signals to me. Like I said, I think it's a good move for both clubs. I think, you know, James Harden, barring that he's still there next year, I think he's an All-Star in the East next year, right? Like the East is not the West. And so, you know, I think there's some great things that come from this move. But like I said, I think this trade for both clubs, I think both clubs get better in theory. Not that the Clippers are going to get so much better than not having James Harden right away, because you gotta change your system a bit. You know, James has the ball a lot. So now with Darius coming in, you gotta kind of tweak your system. And I know T-Lou is capable of doing that. But overall, both teams got better. A very underrated move. Knicks received Jose Alvarado, Pelicans receive Draymond Green and 2 second round picks. Pelicans are just trying to stock up picks. Shockingly, they didn't make any big moves to get picks. I'm not sure what's going on there, but yeah, I don't know. I was a little shocked by that. But Jose Alvarado going to the New York Knicks. You're talking about a Brooklyn-born kid that went to school, high school in Queens, coming back to his roots. Um, the energy that Jose Alvarado plays with, Madison Square Garden and Knicks fans will love and appreciate. Also think this is an underrated move because it's just adding to the depth of a team that ultimately wants to contend. Having a good backup point guard in this league matters. And I think adding Jose, uh, the tenacity that he'll bring, the energy that he'll bring to that building, I think this is an upgrade. For the New York Knicks. And it's when you're up against the cap, but you're trying to compete and you don't wanna make big moves, it's smaller moves like this that can tilt it for you a bit more. It can tilt it one way or the other for you. And I think this will positively tilt the New York Knicks. So I think that's a very underrated move by the New York Knicks and one that I really like. The Washington Wizards receive Anthony Davis, Jaden Hardy, D'Angelo Russell, and Dante Exum. The Mavs receive Khris Middleton, A young AJ Johnson, Malachi Branham, who's been moved on since, Marvin Bagley, 2 first-round picks, 3 second-round picks. So essentially this trade deadline, the Wizards has acquired Trae Young and AD, and largely for next season. I can't foresee either one of those guys playing much at all, if any. Mm-hmm. For AD, it doesn't make much sense to play. Washington record is towards the bottom of the league. AD, if he's coming back from the injury that he sustained, he's probably still another 3 to 4 weeks away. At that point, that puts you in the march for a team that's gonna play another month. Why risk it? You need to lose anyway. Washington own their own draft pick this year. That pick could turn into AJ DeBonsa. That pick could turn into Darren Peterson. That pick, that pick can turn into Kingston Flemmons, that pick can turn into Caleb Wilson. Like, that pick can turn into a great young piece for your franchise. And so I don't think that it would make sense for either one of these guys to play, but you get them for next season. Now, I think when I'm looking at this, a couple things are gonna have to happen. Washington's gonna have to commit to AD. Mm-hmm. AD long-term. Like if you want to keep a player like Anthony Davis in Washington who's struggled to get free agents, you're gonna have to commit to AD long-term. But, you know, when you take a step back and look at it, you're talking a veteran AD, a veteran Trae Young who, depending on who Washington drafts, think the situation could change a bit for Trae Young. Yeah. But you got Trey Johnson there who kind of overlaps a bit with Trae Young, but great young player. Ke'Shawn George there, Alex Sar, Will Riley. You know, these guys got a bunch of young talent. You know, you look at Will Dawkins coming from OKC, he's kind of brought that same thing, stockpile the young talent. Got picks, just brought in a couple veterans. Like this team could look completely different next year. You talking about a team that's at the bottom of the league right now. This team could look completely different next year. And when I say completely different, I mean completely different in a good way. Like with all the young talent, with the AD, with the Draymond Green, you know, or— If you're Washington, based on the pick that you get, you could commit further and say, yo, we're gonna move AD. You know, like the possibilities are endless, but that is the sign of a good front office when you give yourself endless possibilities. And that's what Will Dawkins has done coming over from OKC with a very supportive owner in Ted Leonsis, who's one of the best human beings you'll ever meet. Like Washington's been dying for a star. Dying. DC's been dying for a superstar. AD very much so can go be that. You know, bring some excitement to that building. We've seen guys coming outta there talking about how the building doesn't have energy and where they're looking and dying for a star. And they could possibly have it now or you move on. You know, so there's a lot of things that can happen in this. Washington become a really good team through this. One way or the other. But overall, I think, you know, you bring in Anthony Davis, gonna have to commit long-term in order to keep him there. But if you commit long-term, you look to the young pieces around it, this could get very, very interesting. And Washington could become a team to be reckoned with in the East. We shall see there. Um, the Boston Celtics received Nikola Vucevic and 2027 second round pick. The Bulls received Anfernee Simons and a 2026 second round pick. Uh, we had heard noise about Anfernee Simons possibly being moved from Celtics. Ultimately happens. Uh, Nikola Vucevic becomes kind of the center probably for the next couple years, uh, for the Boston Celtics as they gear up to get Jayson Tatum back more than likely next year. Start trying to make a run at it again. I think, you know, with Vucevic's contract, you know, they'll have to make it fit into their future plans. But I think they'll do that, especially with where Vooch is in his career. For Vooch getting the opportunity to play on a winning organization, I think is a big deal for him. He's been stuck in purgatory for quite a while now. So overall, I think that's a good deal for both teams. Yeah. I don't quite understand what the Bulls are doing, but we'll get into that. Kobe White traded from the Bulls. Bulls receive Ousmane Dieng, Collin Sexton, 2 second round picks. I like this trade for the Bulls. You've been wanting to move Kobe White all this time. You get 2 second round picks back. You get Collin Sexton, who's gonna raise the level of your play on the day to day right now. And then Ousmane Dieng is a flyer. You know, he's been in OKC, a winning culture. Very, what, 6'9" guard. It's a flyer, see if it works out. If it works, great. If not, not the end of the world. But I think it's a great flyer to take. And I don't quite understand what the Bulls are doing. But again, we'll get back to that. The Bulls received Rob Dillingham, Leonard Miller, and 4 second round picks for IU Dosumo and Julian Phillips. Again, I don't understand what the Bulls are doing here, but we'll get to that. The Timberwolves, very underrated move, getting IU Dosunmu, more guard depth for a team that's trying to compete right now. They obviously also brought Mike Conley back. The one thing the Timberwolves have talked about is guard depth. Bringing in IU, I think, really helps that. And you're talking a guard who, 3 and D guy, knock 3 down, can defend at a high level, can also slash a bit too. Think that's a great pickup for the Timberwolves. But again, I don't know what the hell the Bulls are doing. They acquired a ton of guards. Rob Dillingham, Anthony Simons, Jaden Ivey, Collin Sexton, Leonard Miller. I like, like, I don't know, man. If I'm like, what the hell? Yeah. Like if you're Rob, I think this is a situation that Rob Dillingham need. Remember Josh Giddey is also already there. But I think this is a situation that Rob Dillingham needs. He needs to go to a place where he can get the ball in his hands, where he can get on the court and play and show the skillset that he has. That was never really gonna happen in Minnesota. Again, it's one of those situations where when you're trying to win, you just don't quite have time for the mistakes that young guys that don't have experience are gonna make. And so it happens this way. But you know, I hope Rob's able to get a chance there. Again, I don't know what the hell they're doing with all these guards. Just doesn't make sense to me. But hopefully Rob get a chance there to show what he's about. I'd imagine they're gonna give him a chance over these next 30 games to see if they need to pick up the option going into next year. And all of those things. But again, and it's probably been that way for the last 15 years. I don't know what the hell the Chicago Bulls are doing. This was a big move. The Indiana Pacers received Ivica Zubac and Kobe Brown for Benedikt Mathurin, Isaiah Jackson, 2 first round picks, 1 second round pick. Wow. Benedikt Mathurin, a young scorer that can go to— I think the Clippers are having impact right away, kind of in that Norman Powell role that Norman Powell was in last year. The Clippers have been missing that. I think they filled that role. Isaiah Jackson, young athletic big, not quite Zubac, you know, completely different style game, but young athletic big. But more importantly, 2 first round picks, 1 second round pick. And the first round picks have a chance to be really, really, really good picks. This move to me is the Pacers gearing up to get Tyrese Halliburton back next year. Still have Pascal Siakam, still have TJ McConnell, still have Andrew Nembhard, and to try to go make a run at it again. Obviously they lost in the NBA Finals last year with Tyrese going down with an Achilles injury, and they feel like they're still in that window. So you go out, you get your, a prominent center in the league. I feel bad for Zubac. You know, think, you know, he and his wife had announced that they're having a baby soon. And now you been in LA for what, 9 years or 10 years of all of his career. And now you traded. I don't know if they've had their kid, but I saw the announcement a while back. If they haven't, you're gearing up for it. If you have, you're in the thick of it. Um, but in saying that, I think he'll have a chance to go compete. And Zubac in the East may have a chance at All-Star. You know, he produced at a high level like we know he's capable of, may have a chance at All-Star. So, you know, this move, um, I think the Clippers getting back those two first-round picks are huge because they're kind of in that space of like, they still have Kawhi, you know, could still make a little noise, but They gotta get younger. They gotta get away from the tax at some point. Having those two first round picks, I think could be really good for the Clippers. They got younger and they got picks. So I think it's a good deal overall for the Clippers. I also think and understand why the Pacers would do it. I think it's a good deal for them as well. We will see how it plays out. But that is what's going on with the Clippers. Draymond Green. And we'll see, you know, they brought in Darius Garland also, as we know. So this kind of a retool for the Clippers while also giving yourself some future compensation. So overall, good deal. And the last trade we'll get into is Luke Kennard to the Lakers from the Atlanta Hawks, with the Atlanta Hawks receiving Gabe Vincent and one second round pick. I think this is a good move by the Lakers. You add that shooting. I know they need more shooting on the perimeter. I think the one thing that people will question, like, is defensively, how do you survive it? You know, like, what your scheme's gonna be if you're JJ and different things. But one thing's for certain, Luka Dončić can come off pin downs and JJ can run plays for him to come off and shoot. And I think JJ would cherish and enjoy that. And then also just him on the wing with Luka creating for him, Bron creating for him, Austin creating for him. I think this is a very good situation Luke Kinnard. You do worry about how it's gonna be on the defensive end, but offensively, I think this is definitely an upgrade for the Lakers in the shooting that is much needed for them. So ultimately we'll see how they fare. We'll see how it pans out for 'em. But overall, I think a good pick, a good pickup for the Lakers. And if you're the Hawks, you know, you get Gabe Vincent, but more importantly, you get another second round pick that could turn into something. Anze's been doing a great job over there as the GM of the Hawks. Stockpiling picks while stockpiling young players, which is the way of the NBA these days. So that's a wrap from the trade deadline. That is all that I thought really, really mattered. And you know, my first trade deadline being involved in major talks, it was a weird thing. Like I said, I hope ultimately that I can do what I need to do so that that's not a thing every year. Yeah. I know everybody's gonna assume and be like, "Oh man, Draymond's gonna leave." No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying I need to do whatever it is that I need to do so that I'm not in that talk every year. I didn't say I wanted to leave. So before you all run and say that, it's not that. Ain't gonna be that. But I thank you all again for tuning in to the Draymond Green Show. We got the Lakers tomorrow and then we got the Grizzlies. It's a wrap. Peace. If you're rocking with the Draymond Green Show, be sure to click follow on your favorite podcast app. And while you're there, go ahead and drop a 5-star rating and leave a review. I wanna hear what you think, and it would also mean a ton to me if you share it with a friend that you think would enjoy it. Let's keep this thing growing. The Draymond Green Show is presented by Audacy and executive produced in conjunction with The New Media. Our executive producers are Leah Reese Dennis, Danny Friesinger, and Greg Holtzman. 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