Draymond & Baron DISAGREE with Scottie Pippen saying he’d still win 6 rings without Michael Jordan

In a loosely structured, back‑and‑forth YouTube conversation, former NBA players Draymond Green and Baron Davis react to Scottie Pippen’s recent claim that he could have won six championships without Michael Jordan. The pair spend most of the episode defending Pippen’s legacy, interpreting his statement as an emotional outcry about never having a one‑on‑one dinner with Jordan, and lamenting how the comment might tarnish Pippen’s reputation. Their dialogue then shifts to broader player‑comparison analysis: they argue that LeBron James is a hybrid of Magic Johnson’s playmaking, Scottie Pippen’s defensive versatility, and Karl Malone’s size, while repeatedly debating whether Pippen belongs in the same categorical tier as Magic and LeBron. Throughout, the conversation is informal, repetitive, and peppered with colloquial interjections, but it surfaces several high‑signal viewpoints: the significance of Pippen’s claim, the perceived MJ‑Pippen relationship, and a framework for evaluating greatness across NBA eras.
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Recently, Scottie Pippen says he wins 6 rings without Michael Jordan. This is water. You know, that's when you tell your friends, man, take a shot.
What's wrong with Scottie, man? Somebody gotta check on Scottie, man. I, I'm a, I'm a, I grew up watching them teams, man. I'm a, I'm a big Scottie Scottie, I don't know what Scottie going through, man, but I send my love because— Nah, I'm deadass, man, because you start making comments like Scottie been making lately and people start to remember you for those comments and not necessarily for being Scottie Pippen. And I don't like that. You know what I'm saying? Like, people try to downplay who you are and what you've done because of the comments you made lately. And I just don't wanna see people doing that to Scottie. Scottie because Scottie is for damn sure Scottie. And that's why I say, man, I, I like, I just want like to make sure Scottie good, man. Because saying stuff like that, like he said him and Michael Jordan, they never sat down for dinner. Like to me it sound like it's coming from a place of pain. You know what I'm saying? Like MJ, he feeling like MJ kind of never maybe showing him the love that he ultimately think MJ should show. And he's like outwardly looking for that and saying things to like downplay it as opposed to just saying like, Like I feel like he kind of said it like, man, me and Michael Jordan ain't never had sat down, sit down and had dinner one-on-one. Like I feel like he crying out and saying what he really crying out for and about. And like make that happen, man. Like somebody get MJ and Scottie together because if he feel like he need that, like—
It ain't gonna happen, man.
Hey, no, deadass though, BD.
Check this out.
Check this out. Hey, bro.
Hey, bro. Check this out. It ain't gonna happen.
Check this out.
I don't think it's gonna happen.
I'm not saying I'm Scottie Pippen.
Tripping.
But what I am saying is, if somewhere down the line, 20 years from now, I want to have dinner with Steph Curry, I will hope that I can have dinner with Steph Curry. You know what I'm saying? That's true.
That's different.
With all that you've been through with somebody, like you go through these journeys of winning championships, them shit's not easy. And to go on those journeys and not even be able to sit down and have dinner, like I feel like that's Scottie's outcry.
And so, But Michael Jordan don't need dinner.
Michael Jordan do eat dinner, man.
The Black Cat, man. We ain't never heard about Michael Jordan having dinner with nobody.
And that's fine, but he also ain't want— it's Mike and Scottie, man. Like, it don't matter if he having dinner with anybody else.
That's Scottie, man.
He need that.
I know. No, he do.
He do. Scottie need that, man. Scottie crying out for that.
He is crying out for that, but you know, shout out to Michael Jordan, right?
Of course.
Michael Jordan don't give a fly. He ain't tripping at all.
Of course he not.
You feel me? Hey, Michael Jordan is not tripping, okay? Huh? Who? What? Dinner?
Are you kidding me?
Are you kidding me?
I wonder why he didn't go to dinner with Scottie. It's all making sense now when you look at the whole picture. It's all making sense now though.
Man, I'm here to hoop. Michael Jordan was like, "I am here to hoop. I do my job. I'm here to do my job. I'm not here to be friends with you. I'm not here to be friends with you." On this court? Oh man. We family. I love y'all.
Scottie Pippen.
And to Michael Jordan's defense, every time he speaks in an interview, he always say Scottie.
Yeah, he does.
Michael Jordan don't never say Michael Jordan without saying Scottie Pippen.
That's a fact.
Michael Jordan always say Scottie, bro.
He always say—
But Scottie always there. Okay, I get it. He should. Michael Jordan, if you hear me, If you can hear me now, please, bro, go sit down with your dog. You know what I mean? Y'all chop it up. We need to see a Michael Jordan. Maybe we can do a Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen interview, right?
'Cause— Right here on the Draymond Green, The Bear Davis Show.
Right? Come on. Come on, Michael Jordan. Come on, Michael Jordan. Now look, I got my ball head just like Mike. I know, hey, I know how Mike feel 'cause when I cut my hair off, No, I don't wanna have dinner. So these are ball head thoughts.
These are ball head thoughts.
Mike. Dude.
Black Cat.
Yo, Mike.
MJ.
But Scottie Pippin is a legend, bro. He's a legend.
Pip need you. Pip need you, man.
But we gotta do a better, I say this, we gotta do a better job of talking about how great Scottie Pippen was.
For sure, but he ain't gonna get it doing this dumb shit.
No, he gotta chill. Let us do the talking. Let us do the comparing Scottie Pippen to different people.
That man said LeBron James chased his ring. I got my, like bro, you not gonna say you better than LeBron. Come on, Scottie. That's not the way to get people to say you better. That's crazy.
This is what I do say. LeBron is more of a combination of Magic Johnson and Scottie Pippen than he is compared to Michael Jordan.
And that's fine, but he's a combination of Scottie and Magic, which means he, Scottie stopped. Yeah.
Scottie didn't say, "I'm better than Bronson." Maybe he didn't say that, but stop. That's how Scotty got 6 rings, man.
Yeah, no, for sure. Nobody taking that away.
He can pop that.
No, you can, but like some shit at a certain point, like for instance, all right. So pretty much what you're saying is this. You're pretty much saying I can walk around saying I'm better than Kawhi Leonard. Don't do that. No, I'm just saying, like you see, like I got 4 rings.
Don't do that. Exactly.
Don't do that.
Exactly.
Don't do that.
That's not even.
I'm better than Kawhi. Now take that.
Come on, dude. That's not even close.
Take that. I'm better than Kawhi. Take that.
That's not even close.
No, but that's what you're saying.
You and Kawhi don't even play the same position.
I agree, but like, it's not close for LeBron James and Scottie Pippen either.
No.
Not close. Yes, it is.
Stop it. Come on, D. Yes, it is. Now see. What? Yes, it is. Yes, it is.
Man, you tripping.
I'm saying Scottie Pippen is a 3. LeBron is a mold of Scottie Pippen meets Magic.
No, LeBron is a mold of LeBron.
Right, he's a one of one.
For sure.
But when you look at LeBron's game, Magic Johnson, Scottie Pippen, right? And all of the isms that make LeBron LeBron, right?
Mm-hmm.
And so Scottie Pippen, is looking at it like, man, I'm a 3, he a 3, you know? And Scottie Pippen puts himself, as he should, in the upper echelon of 3s.
Here's the thing though, Bron ain't never really even been a 3. He really like a point guard.
Okay.
And he came in as a point guard. But even if you wanna say Bron's a 3, great. Say he a 3, say he a 4, I really don't give a damn. Draymond Green and Scottie Pippen is not in the same category.
They are not in the same category.
That is not the case.
That is just not the case. I did not say, I said Scottie Pippen, he as a 3 has won 6 championships.
No, that's great.
So he's standing on his 6 championships. And I respect that. He's standing on, I killed in the finals, Defensive Player of the Year, All-Stars. He's standing on all that. You know, when he compare himself to Bron, that's just having confidence in himself.
Bron has had Scottie's career minus the rings twice.
For sure.
Like minus the 6 rings, he's had Scottie's career twice.
Scottie messed up.
If not 3 times. This last one. He's had, he's had Scottie.
Scottie messed up with this last.
Hey, come on, Scottie.
You feelin' this, man?
I'm on Scottie's side, by the way. I got nothing but love for Scottie, but come on, Scottie.
You're not winning those 6 rings without MJ.
Come on, that's ridiculous. If that's the case, then when MJ left, you would've kept winning the rings, Scottie.
Like. He would've went back in the game.
You know what I'm saying? Like, come on, Scottie.
He would've went back in the game to play.
And then you tried to justify BD. I can't believe you just tried to justify that.
I didn't try to justify nothing. I was speaking from his point of view. Yeah, I'm pissing you off today. Yeah, I'm pissing him off. Very accurate. Magic, Scottie Pippen, right? That is when you look at LeBron's game, He embodies both of those players.
I ain't rolling.
Very, very not like MJ.
No, him and MJ not the same player.
Not even close, yeah.
They not the same player.
Not even close, yeah.
No, totally different game.
Kobe, MJ.
Yeah, totally different game.
Kobe, MJ, LeBron, Magic, and Scottie Pippen as a high—
No, stop that. Magic, again, I'm a Scottie Pippen fan. Scottie Pippen does not belong in the category with Magic Johnson and LeBron James. I'm sorry. Scottie is the legend. I'm sorry. Scottie just cannot go in that category.
Scottie Pippen.
I love that category, bro. Zero disrespect to Scottie Pippen, but he cannot go in the category with LeBron James and Magic Johnson.
I'm not putting him in the category.
Come on though. He just like—
The greatness of Magic Johnson. The greatness of Scottie Pippen, mix that all together, you get LeBron James.
I don't know, that's too simple. But I'm not saying like those are both special players. But I'm saying like, that ain't gonna get it done. Ah, let me think.
Think about it, bro. And then it's somebody, and then it's, And then it's LeBronism, right? It's his approach and his swag. But if you think about Magic and you think about how Pippen play, right? Like that is the cornerstone of the greatness of LeBron James. I'm just saying. I'm moving my mouth. He's equally as great, right? Like Scottie Pippen's greatness, defense, all the things he did. Then you got Magic with the ooh, ooh, ooh. And just the Magic, Then you add what LeBron got with the hops, the athleticism, the strength. That's like, bro, he the perfect combination of them two and Karl Malone.
That's, I'll tell you what, so I had to just move my mind past them being in the same category. And what I had to allow my mind to do was combine the two players. And combining those two players is like, that's insane.
That's insane. That's LeBron James. That's what I'm saying.
And so I can follow you a little bit. Then you add Karl Malone in there like, That's saying a lot. All right, I rest.
He built like Karl Malone. LeBron James is built like Karl Malone, bro.
I rest.
He the same size as Karl Malone.
Which is crazy.
That's crazy.
That makes no sense, man. That's ridiculous.
That's crazy. I had to guard him. I had to guard LeBron.
Yeah.
Yeah, he like guarding Karl Malone and Magic Johnson all in the same one.
For Bron to be the same size as Karl Malone, for those of y'all that's never seen Karl Malone in person, person, that man is massive. Man.
That's the problem.
Draymond Green. Golly. And Bron, him and Bron actually is the same size, which makes no sense.
That's crazy, bro, I'm telling you.
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