Draymond & Baron REACT to Thunder-Pacers NBA Finals, Game 7 predictions, Lakers $10B sale!

I mean, this is Game 7 of the NBA Finals. Everybody got pressure, everybody wanna win, but all the pressure in this game is on OKC. You at home.

Big time.

You've had the best record all year and it all comes down to one game. What's up everybody? Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show. We got BD back in the building. What's up, my dog?

What's happening? What's up, my guy?

What's going on, man? Excuse me, I got ahead of myself. Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show with Baron Davis. I got excited, we got BD back in the building now.

Oh my God, back in the building. Yeah, all around the world, what's happening? What's happening, man?

Chilling, bro, just chilling, you know. Uh, The best two words in sports. But we'll get into that, man. We will definitely get into that. Before we get into that, what was the coldest moment from Game 6 for you?

The dunk, the Pascal dunk. That was sick. Halliburton with the no-look Pascal. I don't know who he dunked on.

Draymond Green.

Jalen Williams. Yikes, he dunked on him so cold.

He almost broke his back.

Hey, he almost broke him down. That was it. That was a backbreaker.

I don't know if JJ Doe can bounce back from that in game 7. God.

Man, you can't keep falling like that. That's the second time he done fell like that.

I love that he tried to go to the rim and get it, but yeah.

Nah, you gotta respect it.

Gotta respect it.

His footwork. Listen, championship.

His footwork was incredible too. You know what the play reminded me of? He just wasn't able to get the block, but the play actually reminded me of when I ran out to Dame and he threw it to Noah Vonleh and I took that same angle back to the rim and I pinned Noah Vonleh. You know, that was a huge play in that series, but it reminded me of that play. It looked like the same thing. He took the exact route. The ending of it just was a little bit different.

Just got punched on. That's what happened. I mean, that was a, that was just a great play. Indiana was rocking, rolling. Pacers forced a game 7 in incredible fashion. What do each team have to take away for their chance to win? Like, what is, what are the Pacers feeling now that they blew 'em out? What is OKC feeling like now that they got blown out and it looked like, oh, the Pacers may have figured them out?

You know, I think the Pacers, you going in confident like, yo, we know what we got. I think if you're OKC, you may be shook, especially again, they've never been here. It's one thing if you've been there before, but if you OKC, you going in, you a little shaken by it. And if I'm the Pacers, I'm coming out like, yo, I know they a little shaken by what just happened. We gotta come out fire. We gotta come out pounce. We need one of those Pascal Siakam 14-point first quarters. Like we need Halle to come out firing. Like we gotta come out and pounce. If you the Pacers now and saying all of that, as much as that could be the case, game 7, all that other stuff go out the window.

And— Right.

It goes out the window from a standpoint of like they beat us here, we beat them there. Y'all both tied at 3-3. The record go out the window. This is a one-game series. What you could face though is game 7, guys get a little tight. I've seen it. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah.

I played Houston, saw them miss 27 threes in a row. They didn't miss 27 threes in a row. Like our defense was great and our game plan was working, but some of them threes was open, but they had tightened up, you know what I'm saying? And we knew they was gonna tighten up and we, you know, we planned on them tighten up. We couldn't foresee them missing 27 threes in a row, but we knew that they was gonna tighten up. And so going into this game, I think all the pressure, I mean, this is game 7 of the NBA Finals. Everybody got pressure, everybody wanna win, but all the pressure in this game is on OKC.

Right.

You at home.

Big time.

You've had the best record all year and it all comes down to one game. And what can you do to win this one game? But y'all supposed to win the game. You see what I'm saying? Like Indiana not supposed to win.

They have to win that game.

Game 7 on the road against the team that won 68 games, was the number one team. They not supposed to win. But the problem with going to game 7 is the Cleveland Cavaliers was down 3-1 and not supposed to win. Facing a team that won 60, 73 games. And it's a coin flip. All it takes is one Kyrie Irving shot to flip the game. One LeBron James chase-down block, which still haunt me to this day.

To change the whole shit.

To change the whole game. And so that's what OKC is up against. It's like, all it take is a couple plays to change this whole thing, but they are supposed to win. So pressure is all on them. And OKC, I mean, Indiana coming out with a free swing and they coming out playing loose. Like we ain't got nothing to lose. We were never supposed to be here in the first place. We ain't got nothing to lose. It's game 7. Let's go out swinging. And so I think this, like, I wanna see what OKC gonna do.

Yeah, that's a toss-up.

Because I'll tell you this, BD, If OKC don't win this championship Sunday, mm-hmm, they may never win a championship.

All right, so look, I was having a conversation and I won't say his name, but a good buddy, team exec, he was like, if OKC don't win this, they'll get one over the next 3 years. Do you believe that? At the rate the league is going, like it's a new champion, it's gonna be a new champion every year for the last, what, 5, 7 years?

I don't think so. And here's why. I think they get in a tough position if they don't win a championship. And because when you get the opportunity to win a championship, if you win it, you get yourself the opportunity to win more. But if you lose it, now you start tweaking stuff to like, ah, we need to do this, we need to do that. And those tweaks could put you further away from where you were. And now let's talk the money. The money, Shai about to sign for $80 million a year. J Dub about to get paid. He ain't gonna be on no rookie contract no more. Chet about to get paid. He ain't gonna be on no rookie contract no more. So the way the CBA works, just off sheer numbers, you lose the likes of the Lou Dortz, you lose the likes of the, uh, uh, Alice Caruso's, you lose the likes of the Isaiah Hardensteins because right now you can have those guys making the money they make because you got two guys on, on, on rookie contracts. That's, yeah, two, one of, um, two of your top three players. It's the same thing that happened with us in Golden State. Wow. Steph signed for $11 million a year because he's coming off the ankle injuries, allows us to pay Andre Iguodala and Bogut and D. Lee. Meanwhile, me and Clay on rookie deals. Clay making $3 million, I'm making $800,000. You know what I'm saying? So it's fine.

That's how you feel your team, man. And guess what? That's how you feel your team, man.

We won in that window, which then extended it. Because we won in that window. And so I think this is their chance.

And the tweaks were not major, they were minor to upgrade and sustain the run. I got it. OKC, I say the same thing. You have so much talent over there. And you're gonna run outta money, right? Because you have to pay, you know, top 3 dogs. How do you sus— like, and if they— obviously, Shai is dominant. We see what J Dub is doing. You know, the other one was, okay, how dominant is Chet and how much of a unicorn is Chet gonna be to be that third person taking up the, you know, the third lion's share of that capital to make it hard to fill out the pieces that you need that are ultimate complimentary stars. I would say I call all these young dudes stars that round out your 10, right? So how do you, how do you, if you don't win, how do you move forward?

You start looking at—

Without tweaking.

You start looking at those pieces like, ah, it wasn't quite good enough. Tax bills start to creep up. Oh man, we,— and went in, we got a tax bill. You know what I'm saying? And then you also, here's another part of it though, BD. You also then get the likes of the media questioning, can y'all three do it together? You get the likes of the media saying, "Shay need to get a ball to J-Dub more." You get the likes of the media like, "Mark Didenot was the coach that can get them there, but he ain't the coach to get them over the hump." Now you fighting all of that stuff. You know what I'm saying?

You gotta fight narratives.

Absolutely.

You gotta fight those narratives. And they've been a,— a great team, right? I know we talked about them earlier in the year about, man, we ain't never seen nothing like that. It kind of didn't feel right. But that's how they operate, right? They still doing the interviews together. They still doing the postgame. They are a unified team. So when you start tweaking that camaraderie and you start tweaking them pieces, some of those are emotional pieces, right? Some of those are needs. Superstars need certain people, and they look at certain people on the bench, right? Uh, like, there's connective tissue that maybe a GM may not see that thinks that a better player is an upgrade from someone that's probably equally as talented but is willing to sit, right? So that's a fact. It's do or die for— what you're saying is it's do or die for OKC. Their best chances right now. Think about Boston, BD.

Boston had a chance to win a championship. It didn't work out. They got rid of Marcus Smart.

Yep.

Right? They kind of had to wave the white flag. Like, it ain't working. We gotta keep our two guys, but we ain't about to win a championship. And then what happens? Milwaukee trades for Dame Lillard, sends Jrue Holiday to Portland. If you remember, Boston ain't have a point guard going into the season. I mean, going, you know, in that offseason. And, but they trade Jrue Holiday to a place that he don't wanna be, that's just trying to get picks. And boom, they fall into Jrue Holiday and they rejuvenated them. They retweet and then they get Porzingis and they work out, right? And so, but they had kind of, they knew like, Oh, we ain't do it. That's it. And then they kind of lucked up into this situation and it's like, oh, now we can, you know what I'm saying? And so that's where OKC at. Like they gotta win it right now. If not—

They gotta win it right now.

It's way tougher to win next year.

Way tougher.

Because also check this out, B. That's what I'm saying. People are healthy.

Yes.

People are healthy.

It's a different story. It's a way different story. People are healthy. You know, everybody got a fresh start and you don't know who been putting that work in that's gonna take somebody over the hump.

Let's take it a step further, bro. Check this. They won 68 games this year, right? They were the unbeatable team in the league, right? Teams gonna start building to beat y'all next year. You know what I'm saying? So even if they don't win it, teams gonna be building to beat them because they were so dominant during the regular season.

Now what are you, yeah. So what are you chasing now? 'Cause you can't go into the regular season I used to say that about Milwaukee, man. People, when Milwaukee was always in first place beating the shit outta people, I was like, man, Milwaukee is not gonna win the title 'cause they don't, they're never in any close games. I said, in order for Milwaukee to win a championship, they gotta be in 4th, 5th place. So they struggle. They need to know what struggle look like. And then lo and behold, what are they, the 4th, 5th seed? They win the NBA Finals.— it's gonna be hard for OKC. 'Cause now what are you, what you ain't, what are you chasing a record? Are you, now you fighting and fighting for first place 'cause you know I need home court advantage. I need home court advantage. So the whole season is gonna be different than it was this year.

Yep.

Because every team is going to get better. Every team is gonna get better for you and Other people want that number 1 spot. The Warriors want it. Memphis think they deserve it. Denver want it back. Now you got people like, they know the value of home court advantage. Houston, they gonna be back. Everybody gunning, everybody is gunning for the Lakers, you know, maybe.

Yeah.

Clippers. People know that this playoffs has proven that home court advantage is key and clutch. And in order to be a championship team, which both of the teams are, you gotta be able to win on the road, but you gotta be, that home gotta be, hey, we not losing at home.

Mm-hmm. I agree. I agree.

And it's gonna be hard for 'em.

1000%.

Indiana on the other hand, what do you think about them?

I think they free rolling. Like they playing with house money. They was never supposed to be here. Like, and they come in Right. And if I'm Indiana, I'm coming out, I'm playing so loose. And I'm gonna tell you this, if I'm Indiana, I'm coming out, I'm doing all I can to take J Dub out the game because J Dub, I think if they can take him out the game, he the key to that team. Shay gonna do what he do. And you take the second option away. That's what you have to do in order to win a championship.

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Did you see Scottie's quote, or Scottie, um, when he was talking about J Dub in the comparison?

No.

So Scottie made a comparison. Scottie said, "He is pretty special. I'm enjoying watching him. I see a lot of me in him for sure. I see a guy rising to be one of the top players in this league. He's a player capable of leading that franchise to multiple championships, him and Shea, of course." Does J— and so my question is, you know, does J-Dub remind you of Scottie? And, you know, Scottie got his thing against Mike. So did Scottie put J-Dub name before Shea and slide Shea in? Is that still Scottie sliding Mike a little bit?

I mean.

Damn, you know. Oh, and of course Shea.

You know what I feel like it is? Like Scottie Pippen want people to talk about Scottie Pippen like people talk about Mike. You know what I mean? So like, and we need to talk about Scottie Pippen more, about Scottie Pippen, how cold Scottie Pippen is without Mike, right? We know he had Mike, that's cool. But Scottie Pippen, cold.

For sure. Right?

Of course. One of the coldest.

Absolutely.

Top 50, top 25 when you start thinking about it. Game, a whole new, uh, Scottie Pippen is the mold.

Mm-hmm. Right?

He, he is the mold. He is the mold that you can see in developing a youth player. 6'8", 6'9", 6'10". Versatility.

Mm-hmm.

J Dub, I think, is a Scottie Pippen. I think he's of that mold. Right. And he's every, you know, every generation you get to redefine or evolve, right? Somebody who was like a mold of you, right? A one of one. But it's like, man, that was kind of like my sense, like that was my sensei. That dude got a black belt fighting like this, my style. My black belt style is like this. That's kind of like J. JDub was Scottie Pippen, right? Little Scottie Pippen, more Scottie Pippen than anybody else. Not a Grant Hill, you know, not in that mode. It's like when you look at the mode of what Scottie do, what JDub do on the defensive end, how hard he play, right? What he can do offensively where you may get him fucked up and think he can't score or can't make plays. Mm-hmm. Like he is the one, like you just said it, he is the one and it's up to him to be able to like be his own Scottie Pippen, right? Scottie Pippen was Scottie Pippen coming to the game, right? On the board, you playing against the Bulls, you know, on the little chart and on the board, the coach write Michael Jordan, whatever he write, and Scottie Pippen.

Mm-hmm.

We gonna spend 20 on Jordan, we gonna spend 20 on Pippen, right? 'Cause Pippen gonna disrupt, he gonna disrupt everything you got going. And so that's, I think, I think J-Dub needs to be his, man, you need to go and be, you need to go build the name like Scottie Pippen built the name, rocking with Jordan, right? And then you gotta be your own mold, your own one-on-one. Mm-hmm. 'Cause I mean, Scottie Pippen, one of the coldest to ever do it, bro. Let's call a fact a fact. And J-Dub, to your point, he is the one that's going to be the linchpin, right? And the glue and the person to get them over the hump. When you watch the Bulls and when they beat the Lakers, right? Scottie Pippen on Magic Johnson. I watched that game. Mm-hmm. That disrupted the whole game, right? When you watch the Bulls, when they played against Utah, right? Scottie Pippen making big shots, right? Doing the same thing. You may only see the Jordan highlights, but don't forget there's somebody in that game disrupting the entire flow of the game and you have to pay attention to. That's Scottie Pippen.

Yeah. No, I agree. I think obviously Scottie's greatness is not to be debated. Um, yeah.

But he is kind of like throwing, you know, the Mike thing to them.

He doing that for sure. He doing that. I think doing that, he dumbs down how great he is though, because it almost make you get compared to Mike, which like, come on, we can't, like, we can't really compare Scottie to Mike.

Sometimes our ego don't let us articulate, and we gotta articulate how unmatchable that dynamic was.

But I think also, BD, I think Scottie's tailspin has really been since the documentary. You know, his tailspin has really been like that documentary came out and he kind of been tailspinning since. So I try to, I try to, you know, always have some compassion. And when I take a step back and I look at it, I may feel a way too after the documentary if it was like that. And I know I had the impact I had, you know, I, it was suck. If, you know, if Steph sat down and I feel like I didn't get the credit that I deserve, you know what I'm saying? Now, although on the flip side, in the documentary, Mike talk about Scottie and how, you know, great Scottie was.

Mike always— Always how great Scottie is. He don't never say nothing without Scottie. Me and Scottie.

For sure.

Me and Scottie.

But the, but, the documentary was MJ heavy, but it's MJ. Like a Warriors documentary, as much impact as I had, Draymond Green had, a Warriors documentary gonna be heavy Steph Curry. Like that's just what it is. So I don't know, man. I still be wishing well for Scottie, man.

Yeah, let's say this. Michael Jordan is the sun. You know what I'm saying? We wake up as a hooper, you waking up to Michael Jordan. You know what I mean?

For sure.

Like, and that's it, right? So Scottie, you just like, you a moon. You a sun too. Like, but Michael Jordan, you waking up in basketball. So the documentary gonna be about, the most charismatic—

Mike's larger than life.

On-court back. You know, and like, yeah, they following Mike. They following Mike, man. Just don't let the celebrity, don't let the celebrity like tell your side of the story, homie. That's it.

Facts.

'Cause your shit is just compelling and it may be even better because we get a broader perspective. We get more people involved. But that, you know, that's just power of media. Media, media. And that's what you were saying about OKC. Like, OKC, the media can separate Shai and J Dub, right?

Yes, they can.

But it's up to Shai and J Dub to do what Mike and Scottie did. You gotta go win. You gotta do what Steph and Klay and Draymond Green did. You gotta go do what Kobe, like Kobe and Shaq had the most, Most drama, all the drama, all the time.

Yes, they did. But they won.

But they won.

Mm-hmm.

But they won. They figured it out and they say, yo, I know I got Shaq and Shaq got 20 minutes. They gonna go over a review of every which way to guard Shaq. They ain't gonna go over 20 minutes of every which way to guard me. Everybody else gonna get 2 minutes.

Yep. That's a fact. If that.

Yeah, if you could get 5, 6 minutes in somebody's scouting report, you a cold piece of work.

Absolutely. We always on national TV because we're a great team and we've had the success. But by no mistake, make no mistake about it, we're always on national TV because Steph Curry's on our fucking team. And so people be like, yo, "Y'all schedule is crazy. Like y'all travel crazy." And what I try to tell people is, well, the NBA schedule is built off the national TV game. Every year we have the most national TV games. And so our schedule is crazy. And you know what I say to people? You know, Buddy Hill and those guys, right? Like they come in, they ain't never really been on no team that played national TV games like that. And Buddy's like, "Man, y'all schedule crazy." You know what I'm saying, Buddy? It's the Steph Curry effect, brother. You gonna be on national TV all the time, which in turn makes that schedule a little crazy. That is the luck, pleasure of playing with Steph Curry. And so to your point, the camera gonna follow Mike. Get in where you fit in, use it to your benefit, where you can use it to your benefit, ultimately knowing. Of course. —And that's just that. Of course.

Wait, come on, man.

That's just that.

All right, you played in a Game 7 at home. What are your thoughts to, uh, if you're OKC, like, what is your mindset, um, going into a Game 7? And then what was your experience before Game 7 against, uh, the Cavs? Like, what were you going— like, what was the What was your energy coming outta Game 6 going into Game 7? And then, you know, what is that, what is being at home on a Game 7 feel like?

I think the only Game 7 in my career I played at home was 2016 NBA Finals Game 7. And what I'll tell you is, the home court don't mean anything.

Oh, bro.

Because if you can get the crowd involved, great. But you know how loud Oracle was when Kyrie Irving hit that shot?

It was super loud. Like, you know how quiet it was after he hit that shot?

The home court don't mean anything because again, this is a one-game series. So one guy, this March Madness, this is single elimination. One guy can get hot and go berserk. And that's just that, you know what I'm saying? Like, so I don't think game 7 mean anything. So to that point, if I'm OKC, I'm coming into this game and I'm like, yo, fellas, if they hit first, like we gotta come out, we gotta come out swinging, but we may get punched first. We just gotta stay the course, play our game, don't panic, stay the course. Yeah. No matter who hit first, we have to stay the course because if not, it can get the better of them. And again, the emotions is just different. They supposed to win. So that's what I'm saying. For me going into game 7 against the Cavs at home, I'm like, yo, I was suspended for game 5. We really had no chance at winning game 6. Game 7, I gotta come out. I gotta go crazy because we gotta win. And so that was my mindset. That's why I came out firing the way I did. Then you see a couple go through, you like, "Oh man, like let's go." And so I felt like I needed to play great.

It's that desperation.

Absolutely.

It's that desperation. Being at home, it's like you have a little bit more of a desperation to be up when the clock run out.

Mm-hmm, 1000%.

Right? And then being on the road, you're more like the hunter. So you're just trying to get kills in moments where, all right, they have 6, let's get it to 2. You know, they're up 8, let's get it to 4. Like, you looking at smaller kills, whereas the home team is like, man, we gotta grind it. Like, think about all the great game, game 7s, even the Lakers, uh, Celtics, when Rod was talking about hitting that shot. Yeah. Like that, that game was like, man, whoever hit the next bucket is probably gonna win, right?

We didn't score for 4 minutes, BD. No team scored for 4 minutes.

I know, it get tight. And it get tight not because you can't score, because your level, it looks like the level of, Desperation goes into this superpower of like, dude, whatever energy I got left from the whole season, I'm about to give it all in this last 6 minutes.

Mm-hmm.

And everybody is so, everybody is really focused on getting a stop. You've never seen something so beautiful in basketball than a game 7. When both teams going back and forth and can't score. It's like, that's the drama, right? That's the drama because the next bucket could be the bucket. Like, like a 3-pointer could break your back, right? Free throws could break your back. Yes, it can.

So it's—

Listen, I'm glad you was able to—

And one bucket can change everything. If Andre make that layup, Oh, that's over. Changes everything. You know, so that was my mindset. That's how I'm rolling, you know? So I want to see the Pacers come out. I think Rick Carlisle has not showed everything. And I think the Pacers win this game by Rick Carlisle coming out and outcoaching Mark Dagnall. This is, The biggest game in Mark Dagnall's coaching career. This is his first time playing in a game of this magnitude. Rick Carlisle coached the team to a championship. And I think if I'm Rick Carlisle, Rick Carlisle game plan need to be so crazy in order for the Pacers team to come out and win. And I think that's their upper hand is Rick been there. And I think Rick got something in his back pocket. And if I'm Rick, here's my game plan. OKC at times struggle to score. I think we all can agree on that. Every time J Dub come off a pick and roll, I'm all out blitzing him. You're not getting downhill, you're not finishing at the rim, you're not getting comfortable. I'm an all out blitz on him every time he come off a pick and roll. He also not accustomed to getting blitzed. So you can throw something at him for game 7 that they don't really have much time to adjust to. You can throw something at him that ain't seen, and he gotta try to adjust to that in the biggest game of his life with all the money on the line. I'm guarding Shea one-on-one with Andrew Nembhard, and I'm telling Nembhard, don't play in front of him, play on the side of him. If you play on the side of him, he can't get the step back like that to create all the separation. If you sit in front of him, he gonna drive you down, he gonna step back, and he gonna create this much space and he's shooting the wide open. So we not helping, we not in the gaps on Draymond either. You are just guarding him one-on-one. If he give you 50, if he give you 40, and you guarding him one-on-one, fine. Reason being, I'm staying home on Luke Dort.

No assist.

I'm staying home on Aaron Wiggins. I'm staying at home on Isaiah Joe. I'm staying home on Alex Caruso because I think these guys, if they start hitting threes and they at home so they could get feeling good, Jake, Jake getting his 35 anyway. And if you got J Dub getting off and you got, it's too much. So I'm staying at home on all of those guys. Shae, go for 50, beat us with your 50. We not letting these guys get nothing. Because if Caruso gets 16, Lou Dort get 12 to 14, Wiggins get 12 to 14, they stand no chance at winning. So my game plan is we're not overreacting to stay driving them hard. You're gonna force 'em to drive and at the rim, the big need to rotate over late and just get a contest at the rim. Oftentimes when that big come over and shake it to all the way to the rim, he fall down and now I'm Indiana, I want my advance pass. If I'm Rick Carlisle, I'm telling Halliburton, which he does, but I'm telling him, make it a point, advance the ball to Pascal out ahead every time. Pascal can then get to the paint. He penetrates the defense and get to the paint. He's the only player on their team that can draw a double team.

Mm-hmm.

And he even do it in transition where he get get to the paint, he get to the middle of the rim, get to the middle of the lane, front of the rim, and everybody come down. That's what I think they have to do and let Pascal create that double team and then kick it out and they offense flow from there. You know what I'm saying? But you also, when they don't come down to double team, that's how Pascal get the 14 to 16 points in the first quarters. You know what I'm saying? And so that's my game plan in a nutshell. If I'm Indiana, that's what I'm doing. That's how I'm coming in and getting this win. That's what need to be the focus in my opinion.

That's great coaching. So we'll see. Yeah, it's, and then if, you know, if you, okay, see, then it's pack the paint, make them get 3-point happy. Don't let Indiana get points in the paint, 'cause that's kind of how they've been beating you. That's how they've been staying in games. That's how they've been getting back in games. Make them 3-point happy. Make them jump shooters. Don't let TJ McConnell probe, right? No more probing.

Mm-hmm.

No more probing. I'm staying in the lane. I'm making them kick out. And then as soon as I close out, if they don't shoot the 3, Draymond Green and I close out, I'm in man. 'Cause you see they get paralyzed if their offense is not in flow and they gotta play one-on-one basketball. So you start making every player a one-on-one player, but not a play— not a, not an offensive playmaker. 'Cause they wanna draw and kick. Gets an elbow, kick out. Mm-hmm. I don't have nothing, kick out. And they move well. So just, stay tight, give them the 3, contest. And then if they don't, if they don't shoot the 3, one-on-one. Because Miles, Miles Turner just sitting at the 3-point line, and I gotta live with that today. Yeah, and I'm about to live with that on Game 7 on the road, right? Like you saying, it's tight, man. Go, go, go get, go get 40 hitting 7 threes.

T-Lou did it to me. We was at home, we still lost. Yeah.

So. 'Cause after a while, like, you know, it's a volume thing at that point.

For sure.

Yeah, but that was a great take, man. Come on, Rick Carlisle, the Yoda, the Yoda, the Mr. Miyagi.

Yes, sir.

Right? Versus Danielson. This is the oldest NBA coach, right? Versus one of the youngest NBA coaches. And it's gonna be a battle of the minds. So that's great analysis, my bro. Appreciate it.

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All right, this is what I'm saying. If Indiana is anywhere down 6 with 6 minutes to go, I'm tanking Indiana.

Mm.

Mm. I just think the basketball gods may favor history Indiana has been at it longer. The story, you know, the underdog. This reminds me of the year Golden State won the championship. There's always Seattle. There's always those underdog teams that the Warriors' first title, right? There was these underdog type of storylines that, that happened in the league.

So.

Yep.

I mean, some of the shots they hit this playoffs does seem like they have destiny on their side. So.

Man, like the angels in the outfield, right?

It does feel like they have destiny on their side. So we shall see. Move around this league a little bit. We gotta start one of the biggest stories of the week. Bron recently said ring culture has hurt the game. It's basically that judging greatness only by championships disrespect legends like Iverson and Barkley. Do you agree with that?

I definitely agree with him. You know, I think that, you know, our narrative has, and our stories have been in the hands of, you know, media or reporters and it's like their opinion, right? And not to disrespect, you know, them in the game because they play a big part of the game. But the stories should be told from the players themselves, right? The perspective of who they are and what we mean. And so when you think about ring culture, it's, you know, it's becoming, you know, something that's kind of like corporatizing or stealing the conversation about really what this game is about. It's, you know, you as a kid, play basketball to fit in on a team, right? And develop a game and a style that ultimately evolves into, you know, Draymond Green, Hall of Fame, right? So your accolades is one thing, but it's more so like your story, your journey, right? What you did, how you get there, how you overcame. Right. And so as overachievers, right, people who don't necessarily understand that can paint whatever picture that they want to paint for you in your time in the league. So, you know, for me, I think when you just talk about dudes who get rings or you just say like, oh, these dudes who, these dudes who got rings are the only ones capable of running teams and things like that, then you really mess up the culture because as you know, not everybody on the team is qualified and capable. And if they were not, some of them, if they were not on that team, right, they are replaceable. And then it limits the capacity for new rings and new people, right? We have so many great basketball players, great basketball minds in this game that they get underserved.

Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Underappreciated. Their stories are undertold. Their highlights are, you know, undersubscribed to, right?

Mm-hmm.

So like that ring culture, it is, it's kind of like a disease because depending on who you are, you can just jump out there and use your decorations and your merit, you know, as something for media or fans to be like, oh, this dude is, you know, what a— you know, not saying you're not an expert because we all experts, but like you can paint whatever narrative you want. And that's, that's what I don't like.

Oh, I think, I think green culture took a big turn and came into play in large part due to the success of the Golden State Warriors.

I agree.

What I would say about what Bron said is this. I think ultimately what Bron was saying is, what I took away from it is you get guys like a Stephen A. Here's what I took away from it verbatim. To me, it felt like Stephen A is someone who talks a lot about rings and you don't know what it takes to win a ring. Because you've never won a ring and you've never gone through it. And you don't understand because you've never gone through it that sometimes when, when you get an opportunity to win and you don't kick that door down, it can change everything. And because you don't know how hard it is because you've never gone through it, then you start using it to lessen the greatness of some of the greats. Yeah. And is having a ring important? Of course. Like, does it add to legacy? Does it stamp legacies? Absolutely. Not gonna sit here and act like having rings or a ring don't matter. It does matter. But it doesn't make Barkley less great as he was. It doesn't make Allen Iverson less great than what they were. And I think when people use it, they use it to kind of dim the greatness, dim the light, on guys. And that's what I felt like Bron was getting at. Like verbatim, I think, you know, Stephen A and him been having their thing. And to me, as soon as I heard it, I watched it, I was like, that's what I came away with it. It felt like he's talking directly to Stephen A and those type of guys. And if you've never done it, you don't know how hard it is. So in turn—

You don't even know how hard it is to try and get there, man. There are more great players than great players that won rings. Yes, 1000%. Right? So there are more great players who haven't won rings than the great players that have won rings. And like, that's the way we gotta look at it, is like, that's what— like, I was looking at, uh, Magic, right? You know, I was, uh, on the little History of the Game site and I was going through Magic and I was like, man, Magic had 5.

Mm-hmm.

That means in an entire decade, right? There were only 5 other winners. Well, Bird had what, 3?

Mm-hmm.

So that leaves 2 for damn near your career, right?

You got, you got, you got a shot.

At being a champion in 2 of the 10 years that every 10 years you play.

Mm-hmm. That's a fact though. That's a fact.

That's wild.

Like CP and James Harden.

That's wild.

If they don't run into us, they probably do win a championship.

Or at least have a chance.

You know? And so it, when no, sometimes that's just how the cookie crumbles. But that don't mean— them guys aren't great. And that don't mean—

Totally.

Chris Paul not a winner. Chris Paul is a winner. He just couldn't quite— it's so many things that have to go right for you to win a champ. It's not just like, oh, I played good and we— it's not like objective.

Praise the Lord.

Like it's not an objective. It's very subjective. There's so many things that have to fall into place for it to happen. And so to just lessen someone's greatness because of it, I think that's wrong. I'm not saying again that having the rings don't matter. It fucking matter. When I walk in a room, I feel great about the 4 rings. It's a different energy.

It's a different energy. Of course. It's a difference. It's a difference.

But that does not lessen someone else's greatness because all of those things didn't fall in place for them to get the ring. And that's what I took away from it. That's what I felt like Bron was saying.

I hate when they talk about dudes as they get older, right? And as you get older, I, you know, I didn't get that chance to experience that, but I think as I got older in my career, I would've wanna play for championship teams, right? But I think also like a big thing about the media is that we need to be celebrating these dudes on their way out. Yeah. Talking about who they were and they picked, showing the storyline because obviously, you know, Chris Paul today is definitely not the Chris Paul that I played against, right? And that was like, golly, you know what I mean? Like, yo, you wanna watch, you know, you tapping all the way in.

Absolutely.

We gotta understand like, and I would say this happened in the past a lot, we gotta appreciate the evolution And it's like a fine wine.

Yeah.

You know, it's like classic hip hop, right? Like these dudes came into the game as renegade painters, painted they style, and then on they exit, you know, they became more of a, you know, more of like capsulizing they masterpiece in different forms.

That's a fact.

Right? And more so like what they leaving to the game, so. I just don't like that because it, it, it, that should be pissing me off because you can talk about, oh, you can like, uh, you know, even Oscar Robinson said Draymond Green just passed the ball to Steph Curry. Like, what pissed me off about that is like, bro, like, you gotta watch the body of work, homie. You have to watch the body of work, right? Yep. Or shut the fuck up, right? And you don't just look at towards the end of somebody career and say, oh, that is like the way we seen them. No, we gotta paint the picture of like, this is what they evolved into. This is the artist they evolved into. This is the statue. This is why D-Wade get a statue.

Yep.

Right? Like we gotta like start speaking more and you know, in people's, like, in present day and not just making, like, bold and wild-ass statements without doing no research. Because then, you know, I feel your sentiment now, right? I feel your sentiment now because we gotta start highlighting the greatness. That's all. Because the media gonna talk to say what the fuck they gonna want to say about Draymond, or Draymond is this, or Chris Paul is that, or LeBron is this, or like, we got to do a— KD is this. We got to do a better but like speaking on their greatness.

That's a fact. Well, one thing's for certain, just because you were a great basketball player don't make you smart and it don't make you know basketball. So, you know, those two things can be mutually exclusive. And I think in that case it was very mutually exclusive.

For Portis too.

So that's my little single shot. Big news. That's my little single shot for the day. Just because you were a great basketball player, I see this all the time. I see people say stuff and I'll be like, somebody gonna listen to that because they like, oh, that person was a great basketball player. They know. Listen, a lot of them be dumb too, and that was just a dumb statement and it showed colors, and I'll leave that at that, you know? So—

And then to bring it full circle, people with rings are the same, in the same category. So you gotta just respect great basketball minds. In big news, Desmond Bane gets traded.

Wait, talk about Petey. I wanna move on to that too, but I got something for you I wanna go to here real quick with that. All right, so to your point on as you age in this, and it's like this in sports, but I'm gonna tell you where else it's prevalent like this. People don't allow athletes to age and appreciate, to your point, appreciate what they've done.

Right.

They try to make where they are then all of what they've done. You know where else that happened at? And I hate it. And I think it actually ruins the industry. In a major way because you're not allowed— the industry essentially ends up always starting over because you don't allow the greats to age and like appreciate just the aging process of it.

Right.

You wanna always take it back to where it was. You know the other industry that's like that? Music. Bingo. Rap bingo. Rap bingo.

All day.

There's no OG game in the rap game because we kick all the OGs out. And it's the same thing that's happened in basketball as media has grown more prevalent in basketball and has gotten bigger and bigger. It's the same exact thing that happens in basketball and in sports in general. But really in basketball, and it's that—

It's like, do you want an influencer taking pictures at a basketball game? Courtside, talking about they got floor seats and you got a fucking legend sitting at home that you can tell a story around. But I mean, and it— rap is the same way. Like, people, uh, you know, rap is now down to like 30 seconds. If you can have a 30-second hit, you know, you can make a lot of money as a rapper, and that can be it. So one-hit wonders, 8 seconds of fame, social media. At the, like, who gives a fuck?

I agree. I agree 100%.

Who's on? Social media people are sitting, and not all of them, some of them are a lot of, are very cool and entertaining and have talent and personalities. But I wanna see legends. That's another problem with the All-Star Game. Put all the legends. Man, fill up the first 3 rows with any legend who wanna come to the All-Star Game. And watch the energy be crazy in the building. Watch your favorite star who comes at every All-Star weekend, sits on the floor, watch how that person turns into a kid.

Yep. That's when the All-Star game was great.

That's when it was great.

When it got too corporate.

When it was a family reunion.

It's too corporate now.

Right? When it felt like a family union. And to your point, the same thing in rap. But I think for, you know, rap, rap, has its ebbs and flows and rap is coming back, but there is not a great appreciation for OGs. It's just, it's, I don't know what it is. It's a cultural thing.

Mm-hmm.

Or it's a corporate thing, but the stories are getting lost. And so talent is getting underdeveloped, right? And so when you do actually have someone that's talent, they're getting overexposed. And by the time they get there, it's like, damn, they corny as shit, or like they stale, right? And so we just kind of like creating more carbon copies to like what our essence is. That's a big part of our album, you know, Bar Oatmeal, live from the swap meet coming soon.

Let's get it. Bar Oatmeal back in the booth.

I got the album dropping. Let's get it. It's all about that.

That's good.

I'm gonna send it to you. All right, check that out. Desmond Bane gets traded to the Orlando Magic for KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 unprotected first-round picks, and a pick swap. What do you think about the Magic move, and how does Bane fit with the current Magic team? Okay, potential lineup: Suggs, Bane, uh, Paolo, uh Franz Wagner and Carter Jr. Oh, um, that's, did somebody get fleeced?

4 unprotected first round picks in a pick swap. That's a lot.

That's wild. That's wild.

So when I saw the trade, I was like, man, that's a lot. And I like Bain.

Yeah.

That's a lot. And then I saw what Orlando's general manager said. I saw a quote he made and it made complete sense to me why they would make that deal.

Yeah.

He said something along the lines of, if you went into a lab and created a basketball player, You go into the lab and create Desmond Bane. And I said, oh, okay. That's why he gave up so much. All right, cool. Well, the reality is, I think Desmond Bane's done great. I think he's a very good player. But if I go in the lab and create a basketball player, I'm gonna create Kevin Durant or LeBron James or like a 6'6" dude with Steph Curry's jump shot. Desmond Bane is 6'5" with a 6'4" wingspan or 6'2" wingspan or something of that nature. I'm not going in the lab and creating Desmond Bane. No dis— with all due respect to Desmond Bane, I'm not going to create a basketball player with short arms. It's— So when he said that, I would, I, that, those are the things that went in my mind. Like, wait, he got short arms. You gonna go create a basketball player with short arms? I don't quite understand that. And so I was a bit surprised by the statement, but I understood what he was trying to get at. Like, Bane played both sides of the ball, but like, you gotta find a better way to articulate that. You can't like be like, you go in the lab.

Yeah, that's sick.

When you go create a player on, when you go create a player on 2K, You ain't creating Desmond Bane size. You creating like 6'9", 6'10" with a handle and shoot. You not creating Desmond Bane. But it made complete sense to me on why they made that move. And I'll take it a step further. I don't know this to be factual. This is just my guess. My guess is, They've been looking for a point guard. My guess is they called on Ja and Memphis somehow formed it and curved the ball back around and it was Desmond Bane in the trade. 4 first round picks and an unprotected pick swap is insane. So. It's obviously a move that says they believe in Paulo, they believe in Franz Wagner, and we're gonna put someone around them, some shooting that can add, you know what I'm saying? That can take some pressure off of them.

Bane is nice though. Bane nice.

And he more than just a shooter. Like he can get to a bucket, you know? And so—

Yeah, he a bucket.

What the move signals to me is that they believe in those guys and they want to try to go for it with those guys. And also what that move says to me is, which I agree with, they think the league is wide open and right now is to take your shot. I just don't know if that's the shot I would have taken with 4 first-round picks unprotected and a pick swap. I'm not sure that's the shot I would have taken. Just, it seems like a lot, but I do understand where they at. I understand what they're, what they're doing, what they're thinking is. And I respect anybody who's willing to go for it.

All right, where does the Bane trade leave the Memphis Grizzlies?

I think it leaves Memphis sorta in the same position that they were in. Not that Desmond Bane is just easily replaceable, but they still got Jaren, they still got Ja. They got a young Zach Eaddy. They got a young Jalen Wells. They got a young G. Jackson. They got a young Scottie Pippen. So I think it leaves them like, again, I always say this, I don't think, and I try to tell people this, all organizations ain't trying to win championships. Here they are, that's essentially a shred salary cap move for Memphis. Take all the picks back, shred some salary cap, see what we can do with these young guys. But if we can't really, and it don't matter, we got all these picks to, for the future, right? That's a salary cap move. So where does it leave them? I think it should be clear as day to Jah. You gotta understand how this business work. Clear as day is that, is that organization really trying to win a championship? When I see the move, I say, no, you're worried about other things and you're pulling away, but y'all just pulling back the taxes. Y'all pulling back. Y'all don't wanna get the tax. So. Yeah. You let, you know, but this has been a thing with them. This has been a thing with Memphis. They've been doing it over and over again. They had a team where it seemed like they had a chance. They let De'Anthony Melton, they sent De'Anthony Melton away to Philly. They let Kyle Anderson walk, right? Now you fast forward, it's Bain. So this is a thing for them. I think they're a team that don't want to get to the tax and they make moves based on that. That's why I think this leaves Memphis.

All right, you know, there's been also, I would say, a lot of sayings or a lot of chatter about Memphis players being reluctant to play in Memphis because it's a dangerous place to live. Do you think that also adds to it? I think Memphis is a great place. I think that we should be one, trying to uplift and highlight like all the positive things. And so when you hear statements like that from people, like they don't necessarily be tapped in.

Mm-hmm.

Right? And I don't like statements like that because it undermines, you know, the goodness, the positivity, the true essence of, you know, a city that needs to be uplifted. You watching First 48 and shit like that, And then you make an assessment off that. That's television, that's entertainment, right? We talking about people who blood, sweat, and tears, you know, come and support, you know, the Grizzlies, right?

Yep.

Talking about people who, you know, support kids and Memphis basketball on all levels, the work, you know, Penny doing. So you can't, you can't, it's just buster comments to me, you know?

I got a lot of love for the city of Memphis. I got people from Memphis too. People from Memphis has always shown me love. Even they staff, when we in they building, they show love. Everybody in Memphis has always shown love. So, and I was about to go to Memphis 2 years ago. So I wholeheartedly disagree because the last thing that was on my mind was, this is a dangerous place to live, I can't go. Every city in the world has a dangerous part. Every city in the world has a dangerous part to it. So yeah, I'm not going to sit here and single out that city and be like, yo, a player can't go to that city because it's too dangerous. Come on, man.

That's a wild statement.

There's a dangerous part of Los Angeles. There's a dangerous part of Detroit. There's a dangerous part of Miami. There's a dangerous part of New York. There's a dangerous part of Dallas. There's a dangerous part of Houston. There's a dangerous part of Indianapolis. There's a dangerous part of Charlotte.

Philadelphia.

You name it. There's a dangerous part of every city. You name it. So to single out that city, that franchise, and try to make it like nobody wanna go there 'cause that place is dangerous. Don't do that to that city. I disagree with that wholeheartedly. Like I said, I was about to go there 2 years ago. And the last thing that was on my mind was, I'm not gonna go play with that team 'cause that's dangerous.

This is who? This is who?

We're here to play basketball, raise our families. Come on, man.

And be great, great pillars in the community, man.

How can I help that community? Stop it, man. That's wild to me.

We should've called that one Buzz Off or something like that. All right, so the Lakers just sold for $10 billion. That's not a basketball team, bro. That's like Apple stock. Damn. Timbilly. Shout out to the Lakers, you know, LA home team. Damn, I need a job, Lakers, shit. Yeah, just so, bring your boy in.

You better chill out before Steve Ballmer don't give you no tickets next year.

Oh man, you know, I ride with the Clippers.

I know you do.

I ride with the Clippers. All right. You know, Lakers is, people got tattoos of Lakers.

It's a Laker town.

Lakers is my childhood, bro. You ain't gonna take my childhood.

No, the Lakers gonna always.

Just 'cause I played.

Yeah. LA gonna always be a Laker town. That's a fact. It always be a Laker town. But.

Nah, but the Clippers, the Clippers got space. Don't get that twisted. The Clippers got, you know, the new energy. They got new legacy. And so.

Yeah, they got, they got, they got.

Clippers got.

They got new energy. They don't got legacy. Ain't no legacy there, champ. They trying to build it, but ain't no legacy there.

Yeah, you gotta start somewhere, Draymond Green.

Oh yeah, but you said they got legacy and I disagree. Yeah, you gotta build something up. All right, so then they're building it, but they don't have legacy.

They got pedigree, they got something. They got pedigree, like they're building a pedigree. They're building the essence. They're building a chance to get, to break down the wall to get to the championship. Yeah, but they ain't got legacy. You are an entitled, you're speaking from entitlement and a position of privilege.

What's the privilege?

That is your only.

What is the entitlement and where's the privilege? Because if it comes because I'm a champion, I earned that. So it can't be an entitlement and it definitely can't be a privilege 'cause I wouldn't took that.

No, you earned it, right?

Privilege is like, yo, somebody gave you something and that's your privilege. I took the ability to be able to do it. To say that.

Okay, you did. Yes. But—

And they ain't got no legacy.

From the Warriors' perspective—

You saw how Staples looked when the Clippers was playing and when the Lakers was playing. BD, they put posters over the banners. They ain't had—

come on, BD. Okay, but what I'm saying, you trying to build pedigree. They put posters of players over the battlers, BD.

Posters of players, meaning you gonna tell me they got legacy?

You have to, they're building. I said they're building a legacy.

Okay, I'm sorry.

Right, they have some legacy players, like players that people identify with in LA that have been like, yo, I grew up watching Blake Griffin. I grew up watching Chris Paul. I grew up watching Jamal Crawford. So like those dudes, like, so what I'm saying is, the imprint on the city, they got an opportunity. Not saying that they got a legacy of winning championships, but until you win a championship, you gotta have the vision, the momentum, and somebody that's saying like, hey, I'm in this shit to win a championship. Like, if you didn't have the Lakams as owners and you had our same owners, you would not win a championship, bro.

I can agree with that.

Yes. So it has to be, okay, when they got there, they were like, yo, we're gonna start building legacy. We're gonna start or building a pedigree or a system.

For sure.

That's all I'm saying. Yeah, for sure. Shout out to the Clippers, All-Star Weekend. Into it though.

Hey, but I'll tell you this though, BD, and speaking of that, in ownership, right? And the Lakers.

Yeah.

Like I never had the previous regime, so I can't speak to them, but I do know the impact that our ownership group has had on our organization. I can't argue that. And speaking of ownership, When you talk about teams selling for $10 billion and the hands that it went into and Mark Walter.

Come on, man.

I think when I look at this, when I look at this move and the Lakers selling for $10 billion to Mark Walter, you know what I say? I said, ooh, man, that makes the Lakers dangerous because—

Pat agreed.

Here's why it makes them dangerous, D.D. The only thing ever, ever stopping the Lakers was that, take this with a grain of salt because they got way more than most, way more than me and they're just a lot of people. But by terms of NBA ownership standards, Jeanie Buss and the Buss family were one of the least wealthiest families as far as money goes. They had the big asset in which they just sold, but that was, that's kind of the source of their income. And so—

Yeah, big.

And so when that is the source of your income, it's a, it's a, you gonna run it a little differently. You gonna be more mindful. What this does is the Lakers in 2020, not many, only a couple teams made money that year. If you remember COVID, all the stuff, only a couple teams made, The Lakers made a bunch of money and due to the Lakers regional TV deal is insane. They get so much money from their regional TV deal, meaning their Spectrum deal. And so that puts them in a position to still profit even when people couldn't get in the stands. It was either 2020 or 2021. I could be confusing the years where nobody make no money, but the Lakers did. And in large part due to their regional TV deal. So now, You gotta own it with the deep pockets. He gonna say, well, no, I don't need that money. Take all of that money and put it back into the team and go get me this guy and go get me that guy. And let's, let's, let's boot, do whatever we wanna do with this roster. We'll pay the tax, we'll do this. And so I think with getting this new ownership group, it makes the Lakers so dangerous because now not only are they the, Are they one of the most recognizable franchises in the history of sports?

Firepower.

But now they got the pockets to match and act like that.

They got the—

And that's dangerous, man. That is dangerous.

Well, I think it's another thing. I think it's another thing. Okay, look at the greatest baseball team. Right now. The Dodgers. Right, the Dodgers.

Who own that team.

Oh man, thank you. Thank you, same person.

I'm telling you, man. Watch out.

So for the Dodgers, right? Legacy, pedigree, culture, man, that's baked in the DNA. When them players run out, man, they running out for legacy, pedigree, culture. When the fans show up, legacy, pedigree, culture. Old school dudes come back. Old school players come back. It is really like they run it like a family organization with deep roots in the culture, in the legacy, in the former players. And then on top of that, man, they going, they not playing around. They trying to win.

Yeah.

And so looking at the Lakers, it's like, man, you gonna see Robert Horry's, you gonna see, you know, the Byron Scott's, the Draymond Green's around like even more.

Mm-hmm.

Right? Because they know how to capture LA. And to your point, like the Lakers, I would say, you know, has been falling off.

Mm-hmm.

You know, the Lakers gonna always be the Lakers, You know, just like the Essence has been falling off. You got a bubble title over the last, what, 10 years?

15, 'cause Kobe's last one was in 2010.

15 years. So all you got is a bubble title, right? You got a title in the bubble. And ever since then, you just been pshh. You ain't figured it out yet. So now you got some stability.— you're gonna have some more incredible— like, it's just gonna upgrade the basketball culture and, like, the winning culture and the winning pedigree and the care about winning. Like, it ain't gonna be a bunch of shenanigans. There's gonna be some people getting up out of there, right? And they gonna figure out, okay, this is how we go— this is how we gonna start, and this is how we gonna get to where we need to get to. And money ain't gonna be a problem. I mean, you see what the Dodgers is doing. Ohtani, Betts, Freeman, Smith, man, we loaded.

Yeah, the pitcher who just came over, I'm drawing a blank on his name, Japanese pitcher, the other Japanese pitcher that just came over last year.

Who is that, Kim?

Nope, his name is, I'm drawing a blank on his name right now. As you know, I am a Yankee fan. Oh, the new dude. His name is—

Are you a Yankee fan? You better know it.

Let me see.

I'm gonna tell you, give me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yamamoto.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yosh, Yosh. Yamamoto.

Right, so you got, you got, they doing it. And you can't defer contracts like that in the NBA. So they can't necessarily take that approach, but they telling you we got the power.

You never know. You never know.

We got the power. You never know.

Yeah, they got, man, they got the sophistication and the pockets. You never know. And they gonna put that, the thing is they gonna, the Lakers miss Jerry West so much, bro.

Mm-hmm.

I think a lot of teams do. You miss, you need basketball legacy or basketball intelligence and old, like you need that old school vibe. 'Cause it's at the end of the day, basketball is an old school sport.

Fact, man.

Damn, $10 billion though.

That's crazy. Man.

Come on, man, we need an investment in the Draymond Green with Baron Davis show. If they handing out that, they gonna shit. We can cover the games.

Man, that part.

Listen. We can cover the games from right here.

$10 billion.

Goddamn. That's, that's wild. Which, I mean, I mean, the Warriors in a good position. The Warriors in a great position. I mean, the New York Knicks in a great position. It's a great position for the league.

Absolutely.

Man, I'm just excited, man. I'm excited for this Game 7. You got Indiana?

Hmm. I'm rolling with Indiana.

Me too.

We shall see. If we right or if they right. But until next time, that's a wrap from this episode of the Draymond Green Show with Baron Davis. It's great to have you back, my brother. Always— Appreciate you, bro. Great to chop it up, banter a little bit, get your perspective, which is always a unique one. And listen—

My dog.

Congratulations to Mark Walter. That's incredible. And also congratulations to Mark Lore and, Alex Rodriguez. I think, uh, they are finally at that point where they're like a step where it's actually Minnesota is all there. So congratulations to those guys. Um, incredible to see what they've done. A-Rod, as a former athlete, um, excuse me, as an athlete— once you're an athlete, always an athlete. Um, always. But to do that, amazing. So congrats to those guys. Job well done. Until next time we talk to y'all, there will be a champion crowned in the NBA. There will be a new champion, a bunch of new champions crowned in the NBA. We shall see who it is. Till next time. Peace.