Draymond Green on Warriors-Grizzlies scuffle & Taylor Jenkins "taking a dive" | Draymond Green Show

In this episode of the Draymond Green Show, host Draymond Green (joined by co‑host Jackson and sponsor voice Speaker C) recaps the Golden Warriors' 135‑118 victory over the Memphis Grizzlies, focusing on a on‑court scuffle involving Santi Aldama, Desmond Bane and a controversial moment where Grizzlies coach Taylor Jenkins appeared to "take a dive" after a collision. Green breaks down individual performances—Jonathan Kuminga’s 26‑point night, Andrew Wiggins, Klay Thompson, and Chris Paul’s 14‑assist, zero‑turnover effort—while highlighting the importance of basketball IQ, citing LeBron James, Rajon Rondo, and Steve Kerr as exemplars. He expands the discussion to the concept of IQ in basketball, debating innate talent versus learned skill, and references his own early coaching influences. The conversation shifts to March Madness, where Green shares his limited but passionate view of college basketball, his admiration for Tom Izzo’s “One Shining Moment,” and his personal bracket picks. The episode closes with a giveaway announcement, naming the two Twitter winners. The tone is conversational, enthusiastic, and occasionally critical, offering personal anecdotes, statistical observations, and opinionated analysis of the game and broader basketball culture.
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Dubs beat the Grizzlies 135 to 118. Was a fun game. It was a very fun game to play in after a while. It picked up a little bit after, The little thing with Santi Aldama and Desmond Bane. Let me walk y'all through that real quick. So Santi Aldama, by the way, Santi Aldama always like go at me like some type of way. By the way, those threes weren't on me, so don't try. I'm not talking about the points. He always talking some shit to me and you know, he got the put back and he just like walked straight to my chest. Like it's always something like that with Santi Aldama.
Yeah.
I know y'all like, oh, I don't know. Like, number one, I really like his game. I was watching him shoot during warmups, like right before the warmups ended, maybe like a minute left in warmup, minute and a half. I stand there once the clock get to a minute and I'm just looking the other way until the clock hit 8 seconds. I turn, make my layup before the buzzer. That's my routine for I don't know how many years. And I was standing there just looking the other side and I saw him shooting and he hit like 7 in a row. And they were just like, "So bounce, pure money, money." And I was like, "Wow, he's shooting the lights off the ball." And you know, in hopes that that would translate to the game. And he started getting off. But Santi Aldama always go at me. From the very first time I seen him get in the game for the Memphis Grizzlies, he starts talking crazy to me. And so when he walked into my chest, like that's already knowing like, he'd go there every single time, which I respect. A young guy in this league who's trying to make his name for himself, to go at me every single time like that, I got nothing but love and respect for that. I'm not gonna just let you walk through my chest, which is why I put my hand out and stopped him. But I got nothing but love for that. And he competes like crazy. He play hard as hell every time. He impact the game in a positive way. Mm-hmm. Every time we play the Grizzlies, regardless of who is out there on the floor, Santi Aldama plays. And then I was just standing there listening to the referee and Bane came grabbing my arms. I hate when people come from behind me and grab my arms because you, number one, I can't see anything. Don't grab my arms because you never know what's gonna happen. I need my arms, so don't grab my arms. And so I just got, he started grabbing my arm and I just like, nah, don't grab my arm. I pushed back. And then GP grabbed my arms from the other side and I'm like, "Gee." I didn't know that was GP. And so I was pulling my arms away from GP. And then Taylor Jenkins took a dive and Taylor Jenkins milked it. And I could not believe that he milked it like that. And he's walking, he's laying on the court milking it. Their trainer comes up to him and one of our players, I'm not gonna name the player because it's pretty irrelevant to name the player and like, But he's walking back to our bench and the trainer asks Taylor Jenkins like, "You okay?" Like, "Hey, what's going on?" And he's like, "I'm okay, I'm okay." Like trying to milk it. And that to me is absolutely insane. Like I told y'all, it'd be players like trying stuff and I know they be trying to get me kicked out the game, which to me is kind of like, eh, like it says a lot about you as I said before. So I see that all the time. But like a coach, like taking a dive and then milking it is crazy. You cannot milk it. You can't milk it that long and then get up and like coach the rest of the game intensely. You gotta go to the locker room for a second or something, bro. Like you just can't, you can't milk it like that. Like that was, that was crazy. And you have to be very careful, you know, 'cause he tends to get a little emotional at times. I know y'all be talking about me, but I play basketball. You gotta play with some, but he tends to get a little emotional at times. I think sometimes his teams follow that. You know, when you look at them in like the playoffs and different situations, like as a coach, you have to be really careful with your emotions because your team take on your demeanor. Like, you know, you've seen us in games over the course of these years where, or in playoff series down and have to come back and it's like, oh, they're never rattled. Well, part of the reason we're never rattled is because Steve Kerr's never rattled. Like, so Steve Curtin never loses like his composure. Like we could be down 20 points in the second quarter every game against the last 4 games of the series against the Houston Rockets. And he's like, "All right, like just keep playing defense and stick to the game plan. And James Harden's gonna get tired and they'll start missing those threes and we'll make our run." Clockwork, you know? And so that's what we followed. And leads to championships, you know? So have to be very careful with that. So when he took that dive, I was a little, I mean, I can't say I was surprised, but it's just like, at what lengths do you go to, man? Like, and you can't just milk it and then lay there and be like, "I'm okay, I'm okay." Like, come on, bro. That's what players do sometimes when they trying to get a flag on foul. They just lay there, the trainer come up, they whisper to the trainer, "I'm good." Like, that happens. Like, you can't do that as the coach. I'm just sorry. Like, that was crazy to me. And yeah, man, bro took a dive. Anyway, Jonathan Kuminga last night was insane. 26 points, 12 for 17 from the field, 2 for 3 from 3, 5 boards and 4 assists. Um, the 5 boards is what I love the most, although I think that still should be around 7 or 8. Yeah. Boards. A few games ago, Kaminga had like 24 and he had 2 rebounds. And I let him live. I didn't say much to him about it, but I wanted to really go at him about it. Like, bro, you had 2 rebounds. I remember my mom did that to me when I was playing at Michigan State. I had maybe 33 at Gonzaga or something like that. 31, 34, something like that I scored at Gonzaga. And we played at the Pit, which if you know, When big teams go to Spokane, Washington to play Gonzaga, they don't play at the Pit. They actually play at the downtown Gonzaga Arena. No one really go, well, I played for Tom Izzo, shout out to Michigan State. And Tom Izzo is going, he, as Ja Morant used to say, Tom Izzo running up your chimney. He coming to your gym, he playing you wherever, it don't matter. His thing is anytime, any place. We'll play you. And so we go to the pit and they're yelling, "Oh, overrated, Draymond, you overrated, my son, you overrated, you suck." Okay, gave them boys 30-something. You could look it up. I had 2 or 3 rebounds and I got, you know, my mom at the time, my mom was my biggest critic. Like she'd go crazy after every game just like, "Oh, that was terrible, you did this bad." Like biggest critic. And so I'm like, Yes. Like, I just went off. Like, what's she gonna say now? And I called her right after the game, like, hello, Ma, what's up? She like, you had 2 rebounds. What, what were you doing out there? And at the time, my mom cursed. She didn't— she don't curse anymore. She's a totally different person than she used to be. She's like, what the hell were you doing out there? Like, you had 2 rebounds. Hey, were you sleepwalking out there? And I'm just sitting there on the phone like— I just had 30-something points on a big road game at Gonzaga. Like, what are we talking about? That's how my mind— I wanted to hit J.K. with one of those the other day, but I let him live. But 5 rebounds last night, 4 assists, couple steals as well. I'll take the 5 rebounds over the 2. But we gonna make sure J.K. get the rebound more and more because he's more than capable. And if he's rebounding and then pushing the ball on the break, did y'all see a couple of those breakaways? He ran right by Jake LaRavie on one of those plays. He ran right by somebody else on a couple. Like, he, JK, is shot out of a cannon when he decides to run. So with him getting more rebounds and just starting to break and pushing the break, then you have to account for a totally different thing. So we definitely will be chopping it up about that. But like I told y'all before, the young boy is a star. So buy your stakes now. As if there's a stock market, buy your stock now. Buy low. Buy low. Because the stock will be high. So when he's playing downhill with that type of force, we're a very tough team to beat. I don't care who we play against because it just brings a different dimension to our team. And not everybody can provide that dimension because not everybody has that freak athleticism, has that skill.
Yeah.
One thing J.K., no one ever talks about is his handle. He has a very underrated handle and it suits him well and it allows him to do more with the basketball, which a lot of guys that jump and leap like that can't handle the ball like that and it limits them. J.K. can handle the lights out, I mean handle the ball. He can shoot the mid-range very well, which again, when you gonna be an elite scorer and you can get to your spot and raise up over people, à la Kawhi Leonard, And Kawhi is the latest, you know, you go back to Kobe and MJ, like those guys, Melo, they get you to a spot, they just raising up and it's money. And I think Jonathan Kaminga has the potential to master that shot as well. So it's good to see him have that game last night, especially against a young team like that. You need them young legs and Kaminga had it going for us and it was great. Wiggs, 22 points, 10 rebounds. And Wiggs has been shooting the lights out the ball. I think he was 4 for 6 from 3 last night. But he's been shooting the ball really well. And again, when we have an aggressive Andrew Wiggins, let's face it, the proof is in the pudding, we win championship. That's what Andrew Wiggins can bring to a team when we have an aggressive Andrew Wiggins. On both sides of the ball. We compete for championships. So it's great to see Wiggs playing that way. And like I said, it just wasn't last night. He's been playing extremely well over the last month or so. And you know, you gotta keep him going. That comes at the right time for us. Klay with 23 off the bench, 5 for 11 from 3. Klay, there's obviously been a thing with Memphis for years and Klay loves to play against that team. It just brings a certain competitive nature out of him. And when it does, you know, you get the Klay we had last night. And the point guard, CP, with 12 points and 14 assists. But make no mistake about it, what's more impressive is the 14 assists. But what's really more impressive about the 14 assists is zero turnovers. And Chris Paul is more than capable of doing that. He actually does that often. I cannot confirm this, it's just randomly off the top of my mind, but I'm pretty sure he's the guy with like a certain amount of assists and zero turnovers with the most of 'em in league history. I don't know what number of assists that is. I don't know how many times he's done it, but I know he's done it quite a bit.
Ready?
Yep, I am ready.
He has the most games with 10 assists and 0 turnovers in NBA history. 59 games. The next closest is Muggsy Bogues with 46.
Boom. There it is. Chris Paul, absolutely incredible playmaker. We know that he's been that his entire career. And when he's playing that aggressive and making plays that way, we're also a tough team to beat. And people have not seen much of that because I think You know, he's worked his way into being more aggressive. But if you watch these games as of late, he been a lot more aggressive and I love it because that opens up a different dimension. That gives you something that you don't see a ton with us. And I think it opens up different lineups. Chris Paul is a lineup connector. He make any lineup work. You can put him on the court with anybody and he can make it work. He's that smart. He's that elite of a point guard and it's great for us. And for us last night, the defense definitely picked up and really took control of the game for us. They was hitting a lot of threes. They shot a lot of threes. I think they shot 30 threes in the first half. They were 12 for 30. So they were shooting the ball really well. And then, you know, our defense picked up. And I'd like to say our defense picked up after the little thing. That's kind of when everything changed, when little, thing with Taylor Jenkins and Desmond Bane, which was nothing, by the way. But when that little thing happened, our defense went to another level and we never looked back from there. You know, we've had these games where we get a big lead and we get a lead back. Not last night. We controlled the game pretty much the entire way after that. And it was our game for the taking. We have to do that more consistently. And I think that's a big You know, that was a huge step in the right direction for us. That's the level of growth that, you know, at this time of year you wanna see. So, you know, it's important that we continue to put that together. I think we have 14 games left.
Yeah.
Yeah, 14 games left in this season. And we all know what's at stake. We all know all the situations. So it'll be important for us to continue that. In other news, LeBron James on the Mind the Game podcast with JJ Redick spoke about a plethora of different things, but one being, um, Lakers— uh, excuse me, the Warriors beat the Celtics in the Finals because of basketball IQ. And of course you all know this is on the rundown of things because Jackson is always gonna find a way to insert the Celtics into—
That's exactly right.
Anything that he can possibly do. So let's talk about the Celtics because they're weird fans like Jackson get off by listening to how they lost to us. So let's talk about this. That to a certain, Um, degree is very true. Um, I think we definitely had a higher IQ at the time, but I think we also— it's more than just a higher IQ though. Like, we had a higher IQ for sure, but it's also IQ in the moment, you know? Like, in these situations, like, you get in these, you know, people— somebody can have a high IQ and get in those moments and completely lose it. Like, because the moment gets too big. You know, we saw Jared Allen a couple, maybe that was last year. He said, "Man, those lights were brighter than we thought." I was very surprised when he came out and said that publicly. But it was as real as anybody could be. Like you get in these playoffs sometimes and this is the NBA Finals we're talking about. Sometimes those lights can get a little bit brighter than you expected. And so, and then, you know, they were much younger and, you know, had never been there. They had been to the Eastern Conference Finals, but had never been there.— they were much younger. And so I think our basketball IQ was higher. I think at that time also our coaching staff's basketball IQ was higher. The adjustments that we made throughout that series, it made all the difference in the series. But again, we had been there before. Steve had been there, Mike had been there, Mike Brown, you know, they had been there. And so they knew the adjustments to make like that. But I definitely think our IQ was better. Like I remember when we switched and start guarding and sending all those guys left, like that kind of came, that came from the players of like, yo, they can't go with their left hand, like go, you know, like let's send them left everywhere. Because as a coach, you're hesitant to do something like that as a coach because if you're on the right side of the floor and you're sending left, that means you sending left. I mean, that means you're sending it to the middle. Go watch the NBA and tell me how many times guys intentionally send a pick and roll to the middle. Your defense ain't really built for that. And so we're telling guys like, yo, we gonna send them left and like spray out. Like don't even stay in help, just spray out to shooters so they can't hit the shooters. And like it changed the entire series. That is an IQ thing.
And so—
I think that's definitely crazy. And you know, for those of you out there that don't quite understand what I mean by IQ, it's like what level are you processing this game and how are you processing these pictures? You know, in the course of a game, like pictures develop in every 20 seconds, every 15 seconds a different picture is developing. How fast can you process those pictures? Take IQ to another step. Can you process those pictures before the picture even come— become clear? That's taking IQ to another level. And by the way, there's not many guys in the NBA— and when I say many, you're talking probably, I'ma be generous and say less than 20— that can literally see the pictures. And that's being very generous, by the way. That can see the picture before it even develops. That's a whole nother level of IQ. Chris Paul can see that. LeBron James can see that. I always go back to Rajon Rondo. I know Rondo is retired, but when it comes to basketball IQ, I've never in my life got an opportunity to talk the game of basketball with Rajon Rondo. I have the utmost respect for Rajon Rondo's basketball IQ. So anytime I mention IQ, you always hear me— Talk. Bring up Rajon Rondo, and I always will. Because to me, when it comes to IQ in the game of basketball, he is one of the GOATs. And I say that, and I mean it like nobody's tomorrow. Rajon Rondo is one of the GOATs when it comes to basketball IQ. So, there's not a lot of guys that see those pictures before they happen. And quite frankly, you know, there's always the discussion of, is IQ Is that an innate thing? Like, is it inherited? Like, is that like, like do you, like how does that come about? I wouldn't necessarily say inherited, that's crazy. But like, is it an innate thing or is it learned? And the reality is I think it is partly learned. Like my uncle taught me the game of basketball when I was young. When all these coaches was like rolling out a basketball, telling guys go play, my uncle didn't roll out no basketball. He's like, "All right, first I'm gonna teach y'all this game." Yeah. I learned help side defense when I was in the first or second grade. Most guys don't learn that till high school. Some guys don't learn that till college. Some of these guys don't learn until they get to the NBA. I learned that in first, second grade. So imagine the head start that I had with that, right? Like my uncle has always watched the games with me and like, look at this, see, you see this? My uncle still send me stuff about the game and— Draymond Green. My uncle ain't never coached past the elementary school level. Maybe he was like an assistant coach for my aunt at the high school level. And I don't think he went to games, he just go to practice. Like my uncle is a basketball teacher, like savant level teacher. And the base that he builds for a basketball player, It's outta this world. And so the foundation, it's outta this world. And so number one, when I first started playing, I was taught the game of basketball, but then I also think like there's some part of it that's innate. Like that's my gift, you know? Like Steph Curry's gift is his shot. Like I can go shoot the ball a million times, and like get a million extra shots up, I would not be as good a shooter as Steph Curry. It just won't happen. Like Steph Curry has an innate ability to shoot the basketball. Not saying that you can't become a better shooter, but Steph Curry, like that's a gift. And then he worked his butt off to enhance that gift. And so you see some guys with gifts and they don't work and like— Yeah. It don't work, you know? But like, so, but Steph Curry has a gift of shooting the basketball and then you work your tail off and enhance it, right? Like, so that is a part of my gift. Like my basketball IQ, no matter what level I've played at, I've always been a savvy player. And, you know, that's— So back to the original. Yes, that was part of the reason that we beat the Celtics was because of our basketball IQ. Before we get outta here, let's talk a little bit of March Madness and then we'll have a couple giveaway winners for you guys as promised. But my March Madness, man, March Madness is such a fun time of year. It's quite frankly, if I'm honest,— it's really the only time I can watch college basketball because I can't really get into college basketball. Um, it just never makes sense to me how in college basketball you're guarding every player the same. Like, if I— if, if, if we got Steph Curry coming off a screen and roll in college basketball and me coming off a screen and roll in college basketball and— BP. Brandon Podziemski coming off. In college, they gonna guard that ball screen the same exact way no matter which one. And you can't possibly tell me that best suits your defense. Like, guarding a screen and roll with Steph Curry the same way that you guard a screen and roll with me, like, you just can't tell me that that puts you in the best position to be successful. And so you watch like these college games, And like, these coaches make no adjustments. Like, if you start off with something that work, it works till the end of the game. Like, they don't want to make any adjustments. It just, it doesn't make sense to me. The basketball be so bad. Like, you watch most of these games, the basketball be awful. Like, again, I am someone that pride myself on basketball IQ, and sometimes I'm watching some of these games just trying to figure out the type of offense they running. You can't even make it out. Yeah. Like you can't even make out what style of offense they run. So I only watched during March Madness. And in saying that, you know, for me as someone who went through it, I'm not sure I have like crazy favorite moments of March Madness. Like everybody loves the upsets. That's great. Like fine. But like, I don't, I'm not one that kind of has this, These all like these favorite moments. My favorite moment would be winning the championship. I never fucking done it. I lost in the championship. And so I'm just not gifted with that moment. I think the one moment I love the most, if I had to point to any moment, is seeing the one shining moment at the end of the game, at the end of the NCAA final. Because Coach Izzo preached that to us. Like he made you have such a strong appreciation for that song. Because that's all he talked about every year, all year. It's like, yo, like, you just want to be like— you want to be the last one standing. You want to hear that One Shining Moment playing while you're standing on the court. Like, and so he would just talk that to us all the time. So I have such a large appreciation for that moment because that's the moment that was kind of embedded in us. That's the moment that was sold to us. And obviously I never got a chance to live it, but I always enjoy seeing it because it was something that I strived for. And it's one of few goals that I never reached. But if I had to pick, that would be one of my favorite moments. Today we got my Spartans, Michigan State versus Mississippi State. And when we win, we will play North Carolina. And I am telling y'all, Izzo don't lose the second game in a weekend. You give me the first game, this is Tom Izzo talking to you. You give me the first game, I will get you the second game. You give me the first, I'll get you the second game of the weekend. Not often does he fail when he say that. And he say that every time. So I'm rolling with my Spartans to beat Mississippi State. I'm rolling with my Spartans to beat North Carolina. I hope for your bracket's sake that you roll with the same thing. 'Cause if not, you will be like Quindary Weatherspoon, who called me talking about he wants to bet on Mississippi State, which is a football school, and he wanna bet on them against my Spartans. Mm-hmm. If you see this episode before the end of that game, this will be taken off the episode if we lose. And if you see this episode at the end of the game, you will not see this part. So don't even worry about it. It'll be a social media, behind the scenes, edited scenes, and I'll just give it to y'all that way. But. Go Spartans. Tom Izzo, Mr. March. This is his time of year. Lock in. This is gonna be a fun one. But Jackson, who is our, who is our winners for the giveaway? We said we would do 2 giveaways. Who are they?
We did.
Our winners are, these are both from Twitter. Thank you guys for subscribing to the show. The winners are Raider Azteca @Oakland510 and Luke Stevens @luker0517. So if you guys are still listening to the show, we hope you're still subscribed even after the giveaway. Check your Twitter DMs. I will be there and we will get you guys your signed jerseys and we will be doing more giveaways in the future. So make sure to lock in.
Fire. That's what we got. Raider Azteca at Oakland 510. Well, I'm happy you won anyway because I love Oakland. I got nothing but love for Oakland. So I'm very happy you won. And then Luke Stevens at Luker. 0517. Make sure y'all check y'all DMs. Jackson will be there making sure you get your giveaway items. Till next time, that's a wrap from the Draymond Green Show. Peace.
Peace.
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