Draymond Green Reacts To Steve Kerr’s Comments, Kawhi Leonard Fine Drama & Taj Gibson's Retirement

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Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show. On today's show, I'll get into my time back at Michigan State for Grind Week. Also, Kaitlin Lucas Hall of Fame induction, which was super dope. Steve Kerr's comments on my role for this season. Gallo, Danilo Gallinari, has some feelings that he's apparently been sitting on for years. About Kawhi Leonard, who's also traded back to the Raptors. Has been finalized after learning about it a couple months ago. It is now finalized, so we'll get into all of that in this episode. And why not get right into it? As mentioned, Steve Kerr discussed what he wants to see out of me this season on the Tom Tober Show. A couple things he mentioned: he said we have to reduce the turnovers. I want him to shoot from three. When he's open, when he shoots from 3, he might not be a high percentage shooter, but the possessions turn out well for us when he shoots because first, it's worth 3 points. Second, we can get offensive rebounds. And third, it generates a flow in the game that if someone is open and shoots, the game keeps moving. So I will get into these comments. Well, number one, reduced turnovers is actually something that we've been talking about quite a bit. Amongst our teams. You know, we used to be a team that turned the ball over a bunch and it kind of didn't matter. One, due to the talent level, the skill level that we had on our team. And 2, teams weren't running the way they run now. Like, if you turn the ball over in the NBA now, you can forget about it. Like, it's gonna be 2 or 3 points. Like, with the athleticism, with the speed of the game, it's gonna be 2 or 3 points. And so not having the margin for error coupled with what the NBA game has turned into today, turnovers are just a recipe for disaster. And when you can't make that up, it's tough. And so, you know, one thing Steve used to always tell us is like, Steph and Draymond gonna turn the ball over more than everybody else.

Mmhmm.

And I'm gonna give them room to turn the ball over more than everybody else because they have the ball so much. They're making plays for everyone. So I wanna give them kind of a, not a green light, but like, wanna give them more of a pass, if you will, in their turnovers as opposed to someone else, because you're not gonna have the ball as much. You're not gonna be making plays for any. And so he's always spoke like that to us, whether it's in film, whether it's in practice. He would always let our teams know, like, these 2 guys are going to turn the ball over more than everyone else. And you know, you look at it like like like a quarterback, right? Like quarterback is going to throw more interceptions than a running back. That's just the nature of the beast. Is an interception great? No, but quarterback's going to throw more interceptions than a running back. So with that being said, that's you know when you talk about reducing. The turnovers, that's kind of where that comes from. And he and he said to me, said to us, like, just FYI, I'm no longer giving you guys a pass to turn the ball over more than everyone else. Noted. Gotcha, Coach.

Cool.

That was part of the offseason talks. As far as shooting the threes, you know, for the first time in my career, Coach Kurt told me towards the end of last year, he pulled me to the side. He's like, Draymond. I want you shooting 3. And I was like, oh shit. Like, it was like a— it was like an out-of-body experience because I had never really heard him like confidently look me in my eyes and say to me like, yo, I want you shooting the basketball. Even when I was shooting the ball great, it was just something that I had never heard, you know? And so When he told me, like, the confidence level raised immediately. Like, oh man, like, coach want me to shoot. You know? And so that was great for me. And now, you know, being able to go into the mind— go into the season with that mindset of like, yo, I catch, I'm open, I'm firing. I think for me, ultimately, it's gonna help my shooting, my shooting percentages, because it's a lot different shooting a 3 when you catching, you're not sure if you should shoot the 3 or, When you catching, you're like looking for the next action because that's kind of your role in the offense. It's a lot different shooting that 3 because then it's no longer a rhythm 3. You know, if you catching, you look for the pass, oh man, I'm open. All right, I'm gonna shoot it. It's no longer a rhythm 3. That's like a, oh shit, I'm open.

Okay, cool.

I'm gonna shoot it. And once you lose your rhythm, especially at the NBA 3-point line, it's so far. Once you don't, once you're not in rhythm. It becomes a much tougher shot. It becomes much tougher to make that shot all in one motion. You know, you ever learn about shooting a basketball, the first thing they teach you is like, yo, we want this shot to be one motion. We don't want it to be a bunch of different motions to where you're getting into your shot. And so, you know, being— having the opportunity to go into a season knowing like, yo, coach want me shooting the open 3s when I'm open and I can take more rhythm 3s. I think that's going to help my shooting a ton from a percentage standpoint, help me from a confidence standpoint, you know, and so I'm looking forward to that and I'm excited about that. You know, he named off a few reasons, you know, and when he told me this last year towards the end of the year, he was like, yo, do you know what your, what your, what our points per possession is when you shoot a 3? And I'm like, no. And he, it was some outrageous number. It was like, I don't know, maybe like 1.13 or something like that. It was something outrageous. But for those of y'all who don't understand what that is, if we're scoring 1.13 points per possession, that essentially means over the course of 100 possessions, you're scoring 113 points. Which isn't awful in the NBA. And it could have been even higher than that. But regardless of whatever the points per possession was, it was like right up there at the top of the NBA with points per possession. And he was like, yeah, man, like, you know, the ones you're making, but obviously, you know, if you don't make them, we're crashing. Because another thing new to the NBA these days is Everyone's crashing their wings. Everyone's sent— some teams are sending 5 to the offensive board. Some teams are sending 4 to the offensive board. When I was younger in the league, team— and when I say younger, I mean even at the 10-year mark, teams were sending maybe 2 guys, your center, maybe another guy. And everybody was focused on getting back in transition. Well, what teams have decided and learned over the course of the last couple years is that— If you're crashing and guys have to box you out, that is also a way to keep teams outta transition. So everyone in the NBA is doing it. Everyone's crashing their wings. Everyone's crashing their guards. Like, you have a free will to crash. And not only do you have a free will to crash, they want you crashing. So there's that. When Steve said, yo, like when he goes until we get offensive rebounds, That's what everyone's doing. Everyone's crashing the boards. And if you keep the game in flow, you keep the game in rhythm, you shoot when the game says shoot, there's just a much better flow to it. And if there's a much better flow to it, there will be less turnovers. There will be some quicker possessions, right? Like the way everyone wants to play faster, getting 3s up, you know, you take it, you know, where he said it's worth 3 points.

Yeah.

That's the analytics of it, right? I think there's some— there's some— you look at the analytics. If you shoot 67% from 2, so say I go 2 for 3 from 2 and I hit one 3. The analytics, the way it shapes up, they're quite even. And so, and by the way, I'm explaining this to y'all with, I'm not a huge analytics guy. So I kind of get the gist of it. I understand what the coaching staff and front office people be looking at, but I'm not a huge analytics guy. Like I am a very big eye test guy. But the analytics on shooting a 3 and shooting multiple 2s, You know, people are going to favor the three when you're when you're going off the analytics, and so you know him saying it's worth three points. That's that's where that's that that's coming from. And so I think just ultimately standing the floor of the game, you know, like I said, shooting when the game say shoot, pass when the game say pass, not becoming a robot and just going to one thing. I'm extremely excited about this because the last time I shot threes in rhythm. Where I could just go up and, you know what, I'm letting that thing fly was probably 2007— '16. '16, '17 was probably the last time I shot, like actually was shooting in rhythm and just letting it ride no matter what. So I'm looking forward to that. Not that I'm just gonna come out casting 3s, but I definitely am gonna look to get more of them up when I'm open. And, you know, that's exciting to hear from your coach. That's exciting because it's not necessarily something that I've always heard.

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Went back to Michigan State this past, uh, last weekend, And I went back for our annual Grind Week, which we now was in the 6th year of our annual Spartan Dawg Grind Week. And then also Kalen Lucas, Michigan State Hall of Fame induction. Number one, congrats to Kalen Lucas. Kalen Lucas was my point guard my freshman through junior year. Kalen Lucas, one of the better point guards to ever play at Michigan State. A guy who finished his career With 1,996 points, four points away from 2,000 points scored. One of Michigan State top five all-time leading scorers. Big Ten Player of the Year as a sophomore. You know the the list of accolades goes on and on, and I think long overdue him going into the Hall of Fame, and hopefully we'll see his his jersey retired. Soon come because it is well deserved. The work that Kaitlin Lucas put in, all of that is deserved. And so, you know, in taking the floor with Kaitlin Lucas, man, Kaitlin was one of those smaller guards who obviously can score the basketball, but had that chip on his shoulder where, you know, K's 6 feet, 6'1.

6'1.

but has the presence of somebody 6'6. You know, he's one of those guys, you walk on the court and like, he making— like, you just look over at him and you feel like you got a chance to win any game. And that's such a special, special, special trait to have. You know, his career did not end the way it should have ended or the way he thought it would end due to the Achilles injury. Caitlin's junior year, during the NCAA tournament, where I think, you know, he's preparing to go to the NBA. Darrell Summers is preparing to go to the NBA. Tears his Achilles in the NCAA tournament. And when he tears his Achilles, now to Kalen's credit, I think he came back from that Achilles injury, this second round of tournament. So maybe third, fourth week of March. He never missed, like outside of the next 2 games, 2 or 3 games he missed. Throughout that tournament, he never missed a regular season game. So the game starting back, like he was back in practice in October. You're talking about eight-month rehab process. Like and he was back before that plan pickup. You know, so just to watch him and T-Mac go through the rehab process, I had never seen anyone go through an Achilles injury rehab. To watch him go through that rehab process and do it so swiftly was just a testament to his hard work and who he was as a player. So to be back there. To hand him his jacket going into the Hall of Fame and walk him into the Hall of Fame was a special moment for me. When I got the call a few— about a month ago, month and a half ago, of him telling me like, yo, like, I want you to walk me into the Hall of Fame. It was such a special moment because as for most teammates, you don't always see eye to eye. And when you leave college, everyone's journeys go their separate way, you know? My journey went my way. Caitlin's journey went this way. And you kind of do your own thing. You're building your family. And for me to get that call, regardless of where our journeys were, to get that call like, yo, I want you to walk me into the Hall of Fame. It was such a special moment for me. I'm getting chills now talking about it. It's like every time I speak about this, I get chills because I just know the shit that we went through, man. Like Spartan Dawg, Michigan State grind week is so special and so important because you got a group of people Who all went through so much shit together, and we all came out of it on the other side. And there's been guys that it didn't go so great for throughout the tenure of their career. Some guys who left and transferred, all of these things. And grind week, what we've been able to do is pull no matter what you played here, you went through the shit with us. We've been able to pull just about everyone back in, and it's been such a special thing, man. So shout out to Kayla Lucas on the Hall of Fame.

But Michigan State.

Michigan State Grind Week, like we say, man, it ain't— there's no other program in the country like Michigan State's. The program that Coach Izzo built. You know, we have Grind Week. This year we had Scott Skiles back.

Yeah.

And Scott Skiles, one of the baddest white boys to ever play at Michigan State. Scott Skiles used to come in there and destroy everybody. One of the best players to ever play at Michigan State. I know you all remember Scott Skiles as head coach of the Bucks, head coach, I think, the Orlando Magic. Magic, the different teams that he was the head coach for. What we remember Scott Skiles as is the dog that he was in that Spartan uniform. Scott Skiles was an extremely special player and hasn't been back to campus in many, many, many years. I think they said it's been over 35. I'm 36 years old. And I think they said it's been over 35 years since Scott Skiles had been back to campus. I can't confirm that. But that's what I was told. But anyway, we had Scott Skiles back on campus. We had a guy back with us that played in the '60s. That's so special. We had last year when we played the Pistons, Greg Kelser. Greg Kelser, who does the color commentating for the Pistons on— for the Detroit Pistons organization with their TV partner. He's a legend. Jersey hung up. I'll never forget a couple things about Greg Kelser. I wore number 32 in college. Excuse me, I wore number 32 in high school. And I know everybody remembers Magic Johnson as number 32, but Magic actually does not have number 32 retired at Michigan State. What Magic does have retired at Michigan State is the number 33. Number 32 is retired by Mr. Gregory Kelser. And I'll never forget, he was doing for FSN Detroit. So that's the, our, State championship games used to play on that channel, and I'll never forget. I was 32 at Saginaw High, winning my second back-to-back state championship, and you know he's presenting me my medal for winning championship, and I go, "Hey, you might you know could I possibly wear 32 here at Michigan State?" And he was like, "Go create your own number, son." And I was like, "All right, I got you." You know, as history states, I went and did that. And I actually appreciate him telling me that. You know, you take those things one of two ways. You take that and you'd be like, oh man, he screwed me over. Or you take that and be like, you know what? He right. I'm gonna go do that. And I went and did exactly that. So I'm forever grateful for Mr. Kelser for saying that to me, to a young 17-year-old kid who had no clue what was in front of him and what The possibilities ahead may hold for me. My 23 jersey is retired at Michigan State because I went and created my own number. Well, last year he was obviously doing our Pistons game, and I walked up to him and I said, "Hey, Mr. Kelser, I need you at Grind Week." And he was like, "Okay, what? What?" And he's like, "Tell me." And I was like, "Well, you know we do our Grind Week every year. Everybody come back, and we haven't had you back. I need you there." And he was like, all right, say no more. I'll be there. And I didn't talk to him a single time since, like not one single time since. And he was there every day of Grind Week. And so it's just to have that type of commitment from players in the past, Current pros today, like you just don't get that. You're talking. We had over 150 former players back, 500 people in total, including managers, coaches. That's just it's so rare. Like that's not it's not a real thing. You know, you start talking about it and we huddle up and Steve Smith, who's always back like myself, loved loved Smitty to death, man. Like Mateen Cleaves, you know, to have all these legends back. Shawn Respert, all-time leading scorer in Michigan State history. It's so special. You know, when you start, you bring guys together, you start talking about it. And Coach Izzo, just to put it out there for y'all, Coach Izzo soft as hell. He cry every time we start talking. He cry every time he see us in the gym. He stand there crying. As soon as you open your mouth to say something, he start crying. It's such a beautiful thing. It's a beautiful thing though. I'm just joking about Coach Izzo being soft, but I can only imagine the feeling that he feels to know like, man, look at this program. And he's been a part of it since the '70s. Head coach since '95. Look at this program. Look at this. Like, it's so special. And I wish there was a way for me to help y'all really understand how special it is. But I go back every year because, and I look forward to going back. You know, you spend all this time with these guys. You know, we spend time with our current players, obviously, you know, which is a special thing. You know, you come back, you spend time with them, you get them game, you make sure you're giving them confidence, like letting them know what's ahead, what's in store for this season. They're playing for all of us. And for them to understand that, you know, that one day, Somebody will be playing for them too. And that's how we keep this thing rolling. It's the respect for each other. It's the respect for the guys that came before you. But it's such a special thing, man. I love it. You know, we work out, we kick it together, we have dinner together, we watch football. Like, we do everything together. We go to football game, we play open gym. Like, it grind week, but it's also breaking bread. You know, continuing to build that lineage that is Michigan State basketball. Such a special thing. One of the best decisions I ever made was going to Michigan State. I remember on my official visit, oh, we had Z-Bo back. Like, Z-Bo, unbelievable. So fucking excited that Z-Bo was back, man. And I remember on my official visit, Z-Bo was there, Jason Richardson was there, Mateen Cleaves was there, Charlie Bell was there, Morris Peterson was there, Antonio Smith was there, Steve Smith was there. I remember my official visit and seeing all those guys like, damn, man, this is really a family. I wanna be a part of this family. And that was one of the main drivers in me going to Michigan State. It's like, look at this family. And to see it 20 years after I took my official visit damn near in '07, to see it thriving like never before and to do my part in making sure it's thriving. Travis Walton, Austin Thornton, what they do every year to make sure Ground Week is a success. 2 Spartan players. You know, it's not the coaches running this. It's the players. You know, Austin is obviously a coach.

Yeah.

He's a coach now, but he's not running Grind Week. He's in constant communication with Travis on the things that we need to have to make this great. But it's so special. Extremely special. I'm forever grateful to be a Spartan. Always grateful to go back to Grind Week every year because there's just nothing else like it in the world. There's no better place. There's no better way. To be than to be a Spartan. So shout out to my Spartan dogs. Hell of a grind week. Uh, can't wait to do it next year. And if you don't know, now you know my Spartan dogs winning that, that natty this year. Book it.

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Now we'll move around the association. Gallinari has some strong feelings towards Kawhi Leonard and his minimal punishment. He should pay all of that $50 million. He changed the trajectory of my career and put me in a difficult situation by sending me away from Los Angeles. What happened to my NBA career wasn't decided by a general manager or an owner, but by a player who decided that team wasn't good enough and wanted something else. So, number one, I think wishing that the NBA took $50 million from a player is disgusting. I think it's purely disgusting. I like Gallo. I like Gallo a lot, actually. But this is disgusting to me. And the reason this is disgusting, because number one, I don't want anyone getting fined. I think that shit is whack. You can go back and look where I said if this is true, I hope the punishment is they dismantle the CBA, not take $50 million out of Kawhi Leonard's pocket. That's so whack, and I can't believe he said that. To hold that vendetta again, this is something that this guy's been holding now for like 6 or 7 years since Kawhi made that decision. To walk around with this type of vendetta because you got traded is number one, not understanding the business. But number two, like, all right, you got traded. And by the way, I say this as someone who's never been traded, but I also say this as someone who's been in the NBA for many years and seen many people get traded. It's a part of the business we're in. That also wasn't Danilo Gallinari's first time being traded. Gallinari got traded from the New York Knicks to the Denver Nuggets in the Kawhi Leonard trade. So for him to sit and act as if, like, Kawhi Leonard ruined his career, That's bullshit. Gallinari is one of those guys who was extremely talented, who would give you fits but was a little lazy. Uh, one of those guys who was not known as someone who give their all to the game of basketball. Uh, one of those guys who come in with a random back injury. Uh, one of those guys who isn't always in tip-top basketball shape because the word around him is he don't really care. To put your career mishaps on Kawhi Leonard coming to the Clippers and then you getting traded, like, I'm not sure what, like— What's the word? Gallinari was on the, on the Lou Williams, uh, Clippers teams that Lou Williams was the guy coming off as the 6th man. So they clearly didn't have a team that was going to win at the highest level. You have an organization that sits in Los Angeles trying to compete with the Lakers. They have to try to win at the highest level. To say that man should lose $50 million, I, I can't agree with that. And to say that it— he didn't say it ruined his career, but he said it's what happened to his career. Now, you were well into your career at that point. You were well into the possibilities of being a perennial All-Star, the possibilities of being a centerpiece of an organization. You were well into that stage of your career to throw the the mishaps, if you will, of your career, or the lack thereof of his career on Kawhi Leonard, because Kawhi said, I want Paul George. By the way, again, this is business of basketball, and but more importantly, being real. I think Gallinari would choose Paul George over himself. And if you won't, That's crazy. That's ridiculous. Now, you know, that's the whole Shea trade and all of that. So we can all debate or, you know, say what we want to say about how good it wasn't. But to act like Kawhi Leonard should not want Paul George over Gallinari is crazy. And so, you know, he said the team— at the end of the day, Kawhi Leonard can't walk into that front office and say, I'm trading Gallinari for Paul George. He can't walk in, he can't pick up his phone and call Sam Presti and say, hey, we're trying to get a trade done with Paul George. Oh, and by the way, we're sending you a future MVP in Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. Kawhi Leonard can't do that. So I'm here to tell him that no, there was a general manager and owner who traded you because players aren't able to do that. So now all of a sudden we want to give players power that they don't have when it's beneficial for a statement you're making. Bullshit. Kawhi Leonard does not have the power to trade a player. He can request, hey, I want y'all to go out there and get this guy, but he don't have the ability to make that trade. That franchise have to agree, just like they had to agree that they were going to circumvent the cap. He can't make them do that. These are decisions that that franchise made. So in turn, You must hadn't left a big enough impact on that franchise. But to blame another player and say he should have to pay all $50 million back, that shit is whack. Taj Gibson announced his retirement from the NBA and is returning to the Bulls as an assistant coach on Tiago Splitter's staff. Uh, Taj Gibson is one of the very few players in my career that I asked to switch off of. I told Jermaine O'Neal my second year in the league, see, Me and Taj Gibson had history prior to the NBA. Taj Gibson, along with DeMar DeRozan, I ended their college careers. They were at USC. I was at Michigan State. I was a freshman. Goran Sutan was our starting center. Goran Sutan went on to be the 50th or 52nd pick of the Utah Jazz. He got in foul trouble that game. And so in turn, I had to guard Taj more than I probably would have in that game. And I don't know if y'all remember, but Taj Gibson was a fucking beast. animal at USC. And I had to guard him. And you can go watch them clips. I gave that brother fits. I talk to my brother, DeMar DeRozan, about this all the time, about how I ended his college career and sent him on his way. But Taj Gibson, I think once that happened, once I got to the NBA, he had like this inside anger vendetta towards me. And if you know Taj, Taj is one of the nicest people you'll ever meet. Great, great, great person. So it's not like an angry vendetta, but I think something within him was like, every time he played against me, he wanted to destroy me. And he did. He's one of my toughest guards that I've ever had to deal with in my career. And I know you all are like, oh man, you say you're a great defender, or they say you're a great defender. Taj Gibson wasn't this, wasn't that. Number one, Taj Gibson played 17 years for a fucking reason. Number two, everybody in the NBA got something to their game. And Taj Gibson was an elite, power forward in this league. He was a starting power forward for a while, 6th man, all of that. Tosh Gibson was a hell of a player. I think he just had that inner burn within. Like, so for instance, I'll give an example of what I mean by that. So I came into Michigan State as a freshman playing with a guy named Delvon Rowe. Delvon Rowe was a top 5 recruit in my class and he played the same position. And my dumbass decided, you know what? I'm gonna go to Michigan State. Even though Delvon Rose is going there, he played my position. Why? I don't know. But I also thought I was better than him. So I'm like, if that's where I want to go, I'm going. I don't care who's going. In turn, Delvon came into Michigan State with a knee injury. He had surgery on his knee. And when he had surgery on his knee, there's Spartan initiation things that you must go through as a rookie. Excuse me, as a freshman. In the weight room, there's different things that you have to do with sandbags. I'm not going to give away all our Spartan initiation stuff, but Delvon Rowe during that and during open gyms and different things we have to do, he used to sit on the sideline and talk shit to me all the time. That's my brother, my teammate, but he'd just sit there and talk shit. And in turn, once he started back playing, I had this burning passion inside of me that it could be a day where I absolutely don't have it in practice. The moment he end up on me, it's like a switch flips and I'm at him. And I think that's what Taj Gibson had with me. I asked Jermaine O'Neal, J-O, please switch with me. I'm gonna go guard Joakim Noah. You please guard Taj Gibson. And if you remember, Joakim was an All-Star. Joakim was all thing, man. You go guard Taj. I cannot get a stop. So needless to say, uh, Taj, congrats on a great career. Uh, job well done. Happy to see him with the Bulls as an assistant coach. Um, but had a hell of a career, and it was a pleasure to compete against you. Um, I wish you didn't have that little vendetta against me from college and bust my ass in the NBA, but happens to the best of them, big dog. Appreciate you, man. Cheers to an incredible retirement, brother. Chandler Fry on the Road Tripper Show says Giannis is just a 7-foot running back and doesn't have the same skill set as Joel Embiid. If his ankle, knee, hip, or shoulder are injured, he can't play his style. He does not have the skill set, meaning shooting, middy, post-ups, or 3s to balance it out like Joel Embiid does. Joel can be injured, shoot fadeaways, and still get you 30 points per game. I think this is a dumb statement. I think this is a dumb statement for several reasons. To call One of the greats in this game, Giannis Antetokounmpo, a 7-foot running back, is pathetic. It takes a lot of skill to dribble the ball from rim to rim and dunk the ball in 2 dribbles. That's actually a skill set. It takes a lot of skill to penetrate and get into the paint and get finishes or kickouts. That's an incredible skill set. I've seen Giannis take people to the post and put them in the rim. That is a skill set. Giannis, if I'm not mistaken, is a 2-time Defensive Player of the Year. Could be wrong on that. Could be one. I don't really give a damn which one it is because that's beside the point. But to then throw the skill set of Joel Embiid in there to try to validate this terrible-ass point is actually where I disagree. Because I'm here to tell you, there's not many people in the entire NBA with the skill set of Joel Embiid. So to act as if, oh, he's a running back because he don't have the same skill set as Joel Embiid. Okay, cool. Well, Shaq was a running back because he also didn't have the same skill set as Joel Embiid. Not saying Joel Embiid is better because you all know Shaq is my favorite player of all time, and I do not think Joel Embiid is better than Shaquille O'Neal, but To make this comparison as oh, he don't have that skill set. Okay, so a lot of the greats Kevin Garnett did not have the skill set of a Joel Embiid. So is Kevin Garnett not great? So to try to throw in Joel Embiid's skill set because we all know how elite that is to make this point is ridiculous. If anybody's ankle, knee, hip, or shoulder is messed up, they can't really do exactly what it is that they do. So this is dumb. This is middle of the summer, nothing to talk about. Let's try to create some ratings. That's whack. Calling somebody that great a 7-foot running back, like, come on, that's clickbait. Jaylen Brown made his boxing debut in Nigeria. Jalen Brown has been on a lot of side quests this summer. And I must say, I thought his boxing level was pretty decent. You see a lot of these guys go out there and showing you how they box and you like, man, this dude can't fight. Which I must say to you all, boxing is a sport. It's not fighting. So just because someone can box don't mean they can't fight. It is an actual skill set. It is a sport that people practice. And so, however, I thought Jaylen Brown was decent. Super decent. However, I think a lot of people are trying to find things to go against Jaylen Brown on. And with all his different side quests, I think he went skydiving. I think he's done some different things. I will be surprised if these teams don't try to use that against him in contract negotiations because they're looking for any reason to try to get at Jaylen Brown. That's been the case. I don't see that not being the case moving forward. The NBA unveiled the new Spectra Edition for 8 of the most historic franchises in the league, and they've gotten awful reviews. They did it for the Kings, Pistons, Hawks, Warriors, Knicks, 76ers, Lakers, and Celtics. And I must say, I thought the jerseys were Pretty bad. Um, they're just a little random and like a little boring and like I get it a little bit, but I just don't know like who was like, yeah, this is it. Like we've had some incredible jerseys. Uh, I love that Nike and NBA switches up the jersey. I just don't know, uh, what these are. They are a bit shit, in my opinion. I don't know. The earliest— okay, I guess they're coming from the earliest chapters in the league. But I don't know if you all remember, I don't know, maybe like 7 years ago or so, we played a game at Madison Square Garden. In the second half, they didn't use anything. No music, no sounds, no It was just like, oh, we want to take the game back to its essence and not have all the things that we have today. And I thought that was one of the dumbest ideas ever because things evolve for a reason. And it was one of the weirdest games I've ever played in. And these jerseys— jerseys evolve for a reason. Some things are left better in the past, and I think these jerseys are one of them. Extremely surprised by these jerseys and just not sure that, um, It's something that I myself agrees with. I think it's they're pretty bad. Very shocked that these got approved. Needless to say, they're here, and that's what we'll be rocking at some point throughout this season. But I don't know how the sales of those gonna go.

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