Draymond Green Sets the Record Straight On His Spurs Comments + NBA Draft Preview

What's up, everybody? Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show. On today's show, it's time that we preview the NBA draft because the NBA season is over and it's draft time. We're about a week away from these guys' lives changing forever. So let's get right into that. [MUSIC] However, before I go into the draft talk, there's— clearly everyone now has an opinion on whether you should shake hands after a series or not. And you know, the problem I have, well, I don't have a problem because people's opinions are what they are. Everybody's entitled to one. Everybody has one. However, the issue with what I see people saying is I just feel like people are picking and choosing and splitting hairs so much on what's what. Like what's great in the NBA, what's not great in the NBA. I feel like people are just splitting hairs because number one, actually, I never said anything about sportsmanship. So everybody's like, "Oh man, sportsmanship is overrated." Or, "Sportsmanship, who cares? I just lost." I'm mad, I don't wanna talk to you. That's actually the issue I have is I'm mad, I don't wanna talk to you right now because I just lost. That's actually like, everybody's trying to point to sportsmanship, but that wasn't the point. The point was actually what everyone's saying, which is I'm mad, I don't wanna talk. And that's okay. Except what I said was— I'm mad. "Look your killer in his eyes and say whatever it is that you wanna say, but look your killer in his eyes." Is what I said. So what I said is more about a competitive advantage. What I said is more about a competitive edge, not sportsmanship. I don't give a shit about sportsmanship. I am the same guy that said the unwritten rules of not scoring a basketball because you're ahead is ridiculous. I am the same guy who's been ejected a million times and suspended, and I'm the same guy. You think I give a damn about sportsmanship? I don't care about sportsmanship. What I care about is we just played a series. It's the only time in the NBA where I can play you up to 7 times in a row. Barely 7 times in a year for that matter, unless you start me. But it's the only time that I can play you 7 times in a row. Because I can play you 7 games in a row, usually the best man wins. Usually. Draymond Green. Every now and then some things happen, but usually the best man, best team wins. You know why? Because I'm playing you 7 games in a row. And at some point within game 3 or game 4, you know me and I know you. Now what? And that's what the playoffs come down to. That's what the NBA Finals comes down to is you know me And I know you. Now what? Now who's gonna do the extra to get us over hump? Now who's gonna do everything it takes in regards of, you know what play I'm running. I know what play you running. You know how we guarding this. I know how you're guarding it. Like these things happens during playoff series. And when you get to the NBA Finals, it happens at the highest level. One thing I can assure you is a guy who's never played in the NBA Finals, but has played in the playoffs, even the conference finals, has no clue the level that is taking place within the NBA Finals, during the NBA Finals. Have no idea. Within that, I just went mano a mano with this man for 7 games, or up to 7 games, 4 games, 5 games in a row, whatever it is that the series goes, we just went at it. If I'm mad because I lost, do something about it. But the time to do something about it actually isn't to walk off the court. Because you had a chance to do something about it and you lost. So to walk off the court, to me, that ain't about sportsmanship. That's about we just looked each other in the eyes 5, 6, 7 games in a row. And now that I beat you, you're afraid to look me in my eyes. Remember what I said, if you leave, I own you. I own you. Because you're afraid, you looked me in my eyes for 5 games, 6 games, 7 games straight. And then once you realize, damn, you couldn't beat me, you ran off. You couldn't even look me in my eyes anymore. I own you. That ain't got nothing to do with sportsmanship. That has everything to do with winning. That's what that has to do with, winning. Because when you run off the court, it exposes a certain character when you can't look your killer in his eyes. Because what if you run into that killer again? What if you run into him again? Don't be playing against me, 'cause you know what I'ma say? Oh, you can look me in my eyes again. Oh, so you got a chance to win, now you can look me in my eyes, but when you lost, you couldn't, okay. Mind games. Trust me, play 'em at the highest level. They're important. Mind games. Yo. Hey. So now you know what that guy's thinking? Oh man. Damn. We lost last time. Gotta try to get him this time. Now you adding pressure to yourself. Oh man. You get uptight. People deal with pressure different. You get loose. People deal with, handle pressure differently. But not all of those things come into play, and let me tell you, when you're at the highest level, you need the least amount of those things to come into play. The least amount. You need those— the least amount of those things to come into play. When you start adding extra uphill battles, extra battles on your uphill incline, it get tough. And guess what I said? You start to see teams go the wrong way. Because what that says to me is when you run off and you can't face me, it's front runner behavior. That's what it says to me. When we were playing the Clippers all those years, we always thought we owned them because we thought they had front runner behavior. When we was playing the Rockets, we thought we owned them. Because we thought they had front-runner behavior. When it's going great, it's going great. When it's going bad, splinter. That's front-runner behavior. And once we know you got front-runner behavior, you ain't beating us. You're not beating us. Ain't happening. You look at the teams we lost to, lost in the finals. Toronto, zero front-runner behavior. Yeah. Cleveland, zero front-runner behavior. Front-runner behavior always gets exposed at one point or another. You can't have front-runner behavior. It does not win in this league. And running off the court after you lose in a series is front-runner behavior. And here's why it's front-runner behavior. And who gives a fuck about sportsmanship? I don't care about sportsmanship. Here's why it's front-runner behavior. It's frontrunner behavior because if you won and those guys that lost try to shake your hand, you're going to stand there and shake that hand proudly. You're going to stand there and shake the hand proudly. You're going to look the guy you killed in his eyes proudly. I killed you. I'm your killer. I'mma look you in your eyes. I'mma look you in your eyes. Proudly. I've never seen anyone win the championship and someone go to shake their hand and they like, "I don't wanna shake your hand, I'm upset." Hmm? Nope. We ain't seen that, huh? Nope. What we did see is, fuck it, happy motherfucker, I'm shaking the hand. Oh man, thank you, bro. It's great. But when you lose, It's now considered sportsmanship and you don't have to have it. Well, I agree, you don't have to have sportsmanship. Who gives a shit? However, these same very people that are talking all of this about how sportsmanship don't matter are the same very people that when I do something unsportsmanlike, it's, "Yo, he should get thrown under the jail." He should get suspended indefinitely. He should get suspended for 25 games. I've seen one of them say he should be suspended at least 25 games for doing something unsportsmanlike. But then these very people say sportsmanship is overrated. It don't matter. In the '90s, they ain't shake nobody hand. In the '90s, they also would fucking clothesline you in the game. Go on. Let me clothesline somebody. In the 2010s, '20s, let me clothesline somebody. Guess what we gonna do? Call for Draymond head. That's so unsportsmanlike. But now when the young guys walk off the court, when the French men walk off the court, you ain't gotta show no sportsmanship. But when you do something unsportsmanlike, They calling for your head. By the way, Wimby came into these playoffs as the darling. He left these playoffs as the villain. Why? Because he done some unsportsmanlike things. Oh shit. Whoa. Hey, you know, the league gave Wimby a break. They did this. Why they give him a break? Because he did some unsportsmanlike thing. Oh, sportsmanship don't matter. Oh, we hate Wimby because he did it. Well, goddamn it. Can we pick a side? Can we pick a path? Unsportsmanlike, sportsmanlike. Can we pick one? Or can they all just be okay? But if they all gonna be okay, when I fucking clothesline someone next year, don't say, "Hey, Draymond up to it again. He gotta get suspended." Because remember, sportsmanship is overrated. Except I wasn't talking sportsmanship, but if that's what y'all wanna talk, then let's really talk sportsmanship. But we can't say sportsmanship is overrated if in fact when I lay somebody down, y'all gonna call for my head. You can't be the same people saying sportsmanship is overrated. I don't have to shake. You can't be those same people. You got to live somewhere. Can't be a nomad on these things. So, I'm kind of sick of it because the goalpost just moves and moves and moves like— there's no structure to anything. There's no— Yeah. Like, how does it just move like that? I kid you not. If you think I'll clothesline somebody first game next year, I guarantee you they'd be on TV the next day like, "Oh, he need to be suspended. He never learned his lesson." He in year 15 and never learned his lesson. No, but sportsmanship is so— it's overrated. Well, that's sportsmanship. It's overrated. So let's not talk sportsmanship because we know how all of you really feel about that. Y'all have shown me, so we know. So we'll go back to looking your killer in his eyes. And if you can't look his— your killer in his eyes, that ain't got nothing to do with sportsmanship. That got something to do with I embarrassed you, I own you, and you can't see me. Well, I've seen guys turn into that and never win, never get back, never get back. I've seen guys do it. So, a lot of people talking, they never won. If you talking and you never won, then your opinion is one-sided because you don't know how it feel to win. You only know how it feel to lose. You only know, I was a little upset because I lost. I didn't want to talk to anybody because they beat me. So I was a little upset, but you never experienced winning. And I guarantee you, if you experience winning, you ain't turning down that handshake. You ain't turning down the handshake. So let's not promote front running. That ain't good. Front runners lose. Let's not promote front running. Draymond Green. It'll never work. Now let's get into the NBA draft. Hopefully these young guys listening and know that the one thing you don't wanna do is you don't wanna come into the NBA and be labeled a fucking front runner. You do not wanna come into this league and be labeled a front runner, period. So now we'll get into the NBA draft. If you're a dad like me, or if you're single, or if you're at any stage or age in your life You have probably been worried about healthcare, figuring out insurance, finding the right doctors, making appointments. It can make you feel stuck. When I learned about Solace, it felt like the resource I wish I'd had from the start. Solace matches you with a dedicated healthcare advocate who steps into the mess with you. 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Before we get into the draft, the actual draft, I saw that Thomas Ho, a young fella from Florida, talked about me helping him with his draft decision. I can't take that credit. However, one thing I've always appreciated is trying to help young guys see the bigger picture, trying to help young guys see the business for what it is. Just overall trying to share my experience with the younger guys. And Will Richard, my rook, he reached out to me. You know, Thomas is his young fella. And he reached out to me and he said, "Man, Draymond Green, my young fella wants some draft advice." And Will come to me for a lot of things. Will, I think Will keep a notebook of like, things you tell him, which is incredible. He's a sponge. He came to me, he's like, you know, my young fella gonna call me. He wants some draft advice. What are you thinking? And he was, and you know, we start talking about like the number he could possibly get if he went back. And when he told me the number that he would get, meaning the number in millions that he'd make if he stayed at Florida, I was like, oh, no question, you should go back. Once we got on the phone with Thomas, the number was actually higher than Will actually thought or had told me it was. Once he told me the number was higher, my answer was already like, "Yeah, bro, go back to school." But once he told me the number was higher, it was even more of a no-brainer to go back to school. But number one, Thomas grew up a Florida Gator fan. Family are— Gators. Big time Gator fans. And so Florida's his dream school. He's won a national championship there. Gonna come back next year and have an opportunity to win a second national championship possibly. Possibly compete for a National Player of the Year. And a much weaker draft. And he's gonna make really good money. That's 1099 income as opposed to W-2 income that NBA players make. And he's gonna solidify himself as one of the greatest Gators ever. For a guy who grew up in a family of Gator fans, I just don't know how it gets much better than that. Again, in a much weaker draft where he could possibly even raise his draft stock even more next year. One thing I told him, all right, now, but you gotta go do the work. You have to come back next year better than you are right now. So you gotta go do the work. But I think it's the right decision to go back to school. Like, I can't tell you what's the right decision, but— Yeah. And just listen to everything you saying, the amount of money, all the circumstances around it, I think going back to school is a great decision. And we had that conversation. Ultimately, I don't think I was the reason that he went back to school, but I'm always happy to try to help any young guy I can help. Yeah. Whether it's decision-making, some advice, whatever it is, I'm always happy to do it. So I was happy to talk to Thomas and kind of share some thoughts with him and happy that Will trusted me with his, you know, his young fella. It's fun. It's a fun process, but definitely wanna wish Thomas good luck this year as he, you know, as he— it's a big decision to make. I don't think people realize, you know, or recognize how big those decisions are, but it's a very big decision to make. Yeah. You know, he, he went back. I hope he have a great year. Praying for his health. Incredible. And, and build that draft stock up even higher because I think he's more than capable of doing that. Now we will get into the NBA draft. First 4 picks, Washington, Utah, Memphis, and Chicago. Consensus top 4 all year, all along has been AJ DeVonta, Darren Peterson, Cam Boozer, and Caleb Wilson. Incredible. Absolutely incredible. Top 4. It's one of those drafts where Washington, you're lucky, but you're a bit unlucky. And the reason you're a bit unlucky but lucky is because the draft's so great. that the 2, 3, or 4— the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th pick, the 2 or 3 teams behind you are essentially going to get to draft a player by default based on what Washington get. And then Memphis will get to draft one of the players by default or based on what Utah does. And Chicago will be drafting one of the guys on default based on what the top 3 does. And sometimes— Yeah. It just works better for the person that drafts by default. We've seen it over the years. Saw it with Greg Oden and Kevin Durant. We've seen this now on several different occasions of, man, they took that guy, all right, well, I'm gonna go with this one. And the this one pans out to be more than that one. It happens. There's been a consensus that, or not a consensus, but a lot of people think AJ DuBose is going number 1. And a lot of people have said Darren Peterson's going number 2. Now there's been an interesting monkey wrench thrown in the mix, which is Darren Peterson decided he wasn't working out for Utah. He only worked out for Washington and Memphis. Let me tell you all something. The Utah Jazz know everything they want and need to know about Darren Peterson. They don't give a shit whether he come in there and work out or not. Ask Steph Curry. Steph Curry did not work out for the Golden State Warriors, did not want to go to Golden State, worked out for the teams around Golden State and asked them not to draft him. 18 years later, he's been with that same team the whole time. So it don't really matter if he work out for them or not. If they want to draft Darren Peterson when it comes to their— comes time for their pick, they're going to draft Darren Peterson. They don't give a shit how he works out. They know enough. So however, I think people are making a little bit more of that of what necessarily it means. It really doesn't mean anything. Now, of these top 4 guys, I think they're all special talents. I think AJ Dubonca Is the man-child. He is the one that's like everything ready physically. Seems like he has the mental, he's been prepared for this for so long. Like that's AJ DeBonsai. Darren Peterson has this skill level that you only see every so often. Only a few guys have. A very, very special skill level. Elite shot maker. Tough shot taker and tough shot maker, however you want it, he can get you a bucket. Smooth as hell. Like super silky smooth. Cam Boozer is probably a 2010 guy from the time he walk in. But does he have the potential that everyone looks for in the number 1 pick? I don't know that he doesn't. He wins. He wins. And he's fundamentally sound. Tim Duncan never had to blow you through the roof, yet he was so great. He's one of the greatest players we've ever seen, but it wasn't like gonna jump off the page at you from a, from a, um, entertainment standpoint. To call it low on the entertainment value of it. But very high on the production value of it. And I think that was Tim Duncan. And you look at Cam Boozer, he has a similar thing. Not saying Cam Boozer's gonna be Tim Duncan. I don't know that. Tim Duncan's the greatest power forward we've ever seen play. But what I'm saying, it's not like, there's no wow to it. It's just results after results after results after results. And then you got Caleb Wilson. Yeah. And I actually think Caleb Wilson may be the most special of the group. Caleb Wilson is so good, and I think he's still clumsy. Like, I think he's still clumsy and can't really walk and chew gum at the same time, and yet he's already that good right now. So if this guy is still clumsy and he's that good right now, Already, man. What happens when he continue to grow into this body and he ain't clumsy no more? He don't even, you watch him play, some of the stuff he be doing, he don't even realize, it don't even seem like he realize what he's doing. He just doing it. I think Caleb Wilson could potentially be the best player in this draft. Saw people saying like, his floor was Paul Millsap and his ceiling was Kevin Garnett. And no disrespect to KG, KG's probably top 3 Power 4 we've ever seen in our lifetime. KG is, man, what tenacity, all of that. I think Caleb Wilson, now obviously you gotta do the work and he ain't gonna walk in like this. But the type of talent he is, barring that he goes to do the work, the type of talent— I actually think his floor is Kevin Garnett. And man, if that's your floor, oh my God, you know how great KG was? I actually think Caleb Wilson— Kevin Garnett could be his floor. Yeah. That's how special I think Caleb Wilson is. So that top 4, someone's gonna get a great guy, great player, transcendent by default because of who someone else drafted. And those are always fun to do the redrafts and look back and be like, man, they went with this guy. Needless to say, very pleased with the top of this class. It's incredible. I'll never forget going to see Braden Burries play. Against Tyrus Stokes a couple years ago. And Travis Walden said to me, he said, "Man, he, you know, he the number 10, 11 player in the country." I said, "Tribe, I watched Draymond Green play." I said, "Man, you telling me it's 10 guys better than him?" Now I see why class, especially at the top, is insane. You know traditional old banks love charging you monthly fees and hit you with crazy overdraft penalties. But Chime is changing the way people bank. They offer fee-free banking built for you, not the 1%, with thousands of fee-free ATMs because you shouldn't have to pay to access your own money. Honestly, my younger self would have benefited so much from this. 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That's just the nature of this business we in. All of them won't make it. And I'm very big on Darius Acuff Jr., as you all know. I think he— Yeah. With his shot-making ability, his playmaking ability, his temperament, change of speed. Like, I think size, strength, all that— I think all of that bodes well for him being a starting point guard in this league for a long time. Um, so I'm very high on him, and I'm also very high on Brayden Burries. I think Brayden Burries at Arizona— and this is no disrespect to Arizona, this is just how it happens in college— when you go on better teams. I think, I think Braden Burries didn't, as good of a year as he ultimately end up having, I don't think he even scratched the surface of showing people what he's actually capable of. Like, I think if you've only seen Braden Burries at Arizona, you actually have no idea how good this kid is. I think this kid is special. Yeah. And so, Braden Burries, you know, he's been a late riser into the top 10 conversation, but I think he's special. I truly in my heart believe Braden Burries is special. Ademar, over the last couple years we've seen the Zach Eadys, you know, where they're starting back drafting big men high. You know, I think Ademar, we see him go off the board top 15. I don't think he gets past the 12th or 13th pick. Jaxel Landenborg, I don't think he gets past 12. You know, he's been great, having some great workouts, shooting the ball really well. Nate Emmitt seems to be the guy that everyone's like, yo, you gotta take a swing on this kid. He's either gonna be boom or bust. And you know, I think, you know, with his length skillset, he could be one of the players that are better in the NBA than they are at the college game. The college game is a different game. And there are some guys that just leave college and they're better, their game is better suited in the NBA than it is in college. I think that's what's, I think that has to be some innate immense deal. Like I think, The NBA may be a better game for him than college was. College is extremely physical. The NBA isn't as physical. At times it is, but throughout the course of the season, it's not as physical, you know? And so I think for him, you know, college could possibly be tougher for him than the NBA. His skill may be able to shine through more in the NBA. So I think Nate Emens, a very interesting prospect. Mm-hmm. Moraz Johnson Jr., you know, a guy who really benefited a ton from the combine, had a great year at Michigan. A lot of teams have grown comfortable with him coming in and contributing right away, especially on the defensive end. You know, I think a lot of people feel like he can move well enough to where they're not hell-bent or overly worried that he's a 6'9" center. Because if you develop that jump shot and develop his game with the way he defends, you can slide him over to the 4. And so, you know, he's benefited himself really, really well throughout this pre-draft process. Then you got New Zealand Breakers' Karim Lopez, likely the first foreign player off the board. I mean, excluding Ademar, who, but he played in, the States, but Karim Lopez is probably the first-born player off the board. He averaged 17, 16.7 points a game last year for the New Zealand Breakers. Listen, I think when you go European, when you go Australia, I think you're always taking a risk on does the game translate? I've watched Karim Lopez play and I definitely think his game translates, but that's That's ultimately usually the worry, and it's subsided a bit with the success of the Europeans. But early on, years ago, it used to be as such, like, if you kind of on the fence, um, people didn't know which way to go because it was just like Europeans, they are, you know, some people say, oh, they soft, or they don't, they're not fast enough, not strong enough, it doesn't translate. I think a lot of guys have shown it, that it does translate and that view is a little different, but there's still some skepticism at times. One of the most surprised names that stayed in the draft was Core Pete, who said he was bypassing the rest of his eligibility at Arizona and heading into the NBA draft. And a lot of people are down on his shooting ability. They say that it will drop him out of the top 10. Out of the lottery. Listen, one thing you can do is I think you can, you can work on the jump shot. The things that Koa Pete does, I don't know that you can teach. Being that size, being that explosive, being able to, you know, play different multiple positions. He can be a great dunker finisher in the NBA with his explosiveness and a great great defender, um, you know, so, and most importantly, I think a winner. Koa Pete is a winner, plays winning basketball, makes winning basketball plays. So he may slide out the lottery, he may drop in the 20s. It, it would actually be better for him if he did, because if he goes 27, that's a good team. If he goes 24, it's a good team. And for Koa Pete to talents to shine through. You want to see him on a good team. So ultimately I think this was one of the more interesting ones of standing in the draft, but I do understand why he did it. Jaden Quantance, who hasn't played a bunch over the last couple years due to ACL injury, played just 4 games this year due to that knee injury and just taking some precautions. He's one of the guys that, you know, I've seen the physical traits and all of that, but I just haven't seen him play enough basketball for me to be comfortable saying he should be drafted or should— I just don't know enough about him because he's been hurt a lot and I just haven't had the opportunity to see him play much. And then lastly, you know, shout out to my seniors, UConn's Alex Karaban, Purdue's Braden Smith, Arkansas, Draymond Green, they're all projected to go in the second round. Let me tell y'all something, fellas, ain't nothing wrong with it. You get to the money faster. You just gotta go grind and take it. Figure out where it is where you can add value the most, add the most value on a team and do that. Lock in on that, focus on that, get better and better at that. That will ultimately allow you to— Yeah. Ability or opportunity to then go show what it is that you think you're great at. And I think that that's all a part of buy-in. And sometimes that's why you see some guys struggling, necessarily can't get over the hump, because they don't necessarily take part in the buy-in. And so, um, I think that's what, you know, guys have to do. And so shout out to the guys projecting the second round that are seniors. You're going to get overlooked. But you are who you are for a reason. And I'm in your corner. I know how it go. You know, all the time, everybody wanna say, "Oh man, like that guy's too old. He been in college too long." So you saying I got some good experience, but they don't honor it most times. So hopefully, you know, they honor these guys and the work that they put in. 'Cause I respect it and it ain't go so bad for me. I wanna thank you all again for tuning into the Draymond Green Show. Until next time, deuces. If you're rocking with the Draymond Green Show, be sure to click follow on your favorite podcast app. And while you're there, go ahead and drop a 5-star rating and leave a review. I wanna hear what you think. And it would also mean a ton to me if you share it share it with a friend that you think would enjoy it. Let's keep this thing growing. The Draymond Green Show is presented by Audacy and executive produced in conjunction with The New Media. Our executive producers are Leah Reese Dennis, Danny Friesinger, and Greg Holtzman. 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