Jokic vs Lu Dort Scuffle?! Giannis is BACK, and My Response to Stephen A Smith

What's up everybody? Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show. Today's show, I'll get into some of the headlines that I've taken note of over the past few days, including Giannis' return to the court, First Take's thoughts on my Nico take, and yet another NBA altercation. These things are becoming quite common and I don't see anyone saying, "Oh man, these guys need therapy." Let's get right into it.

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Steph's reaction has gone quite viral to me talking to our guys on the bench, and I see a lot of people's reaction like, oh man, Steph tired of Draymond. And quite honestly, what I saw in the video and what I've taken away from the video and be that, you know, I kind of talk to Steph every day, was that he was in agreeance of what I said. We were getting our ass kicked, so you're not gonna be sitting there smiling or enthused. And yeah, I love how everyone tries to project their energy on about me. Onto Steph when quite honestly their energy really doesn't fucking matter when it comes to me. So I really enjoy seeing all the takes online and everybody like, oh man, he's so sick of Draymond Green. Like, I'm sick of Draymond Green. And it's like, the reality is you being sick of me, you could either not watch Or you can shut the hell up because it don't matter and you ain't changing nothing. So that moment I thought was pretty, I'd say the reaction to it was pretty hilarious because quite honestly, if I was just looking at the video, I wouldn't think nothing of it because I, you know, I live this and I know the real life feelings and how you'd feel in the huddle. So I wouldn't have thought anything of it, but the reaction to the video I found quite amusing and funny. Speaking of Steph, it was announced that he will still be out or will be reevaluated in the next 10 days, which puts him out for at least the next 5 games. And you know, I see a lot of people saying, oh man, they should just tank and not bring Steph back the rest of the year and all these things. One thing I will tell y'all is this, shutting Steph down for a year, for the rest of the year, is not something that is just gonna happen barring that he can play. And the reason I know that is because In 2020, 2019-20 season is the year after KD left with a torn Achilles, Klay torn ACL. Steph ultimately ended up breaking his hand and we get the third or fourth game of the season. And so he was out for quite a while. He was actually out for what was the rest of our season. If you remember, that season was shortened for a bit because of COVID Ultimately, I think they ended up playing 72 games and not 82, but it went into the bubble. That's the bubble season. And Steph, who missed the most of the year, we were getting crushed every night. Our team was god-awful. And I remember towards, this is maybe like February, you know, I had some knicks and nacks, back stuff, and I wasn't, I hadn't been playing for a while, maybe a few weeks, and he pulled me to the side and he was like, yo, what kind of shape you in? Like, I'm in okay shape, like, I ain't out of shape. I ain't in tip-top game shape because I ain't really been playing, but I'm not out of shape. And he's like, how much time you need? Like, I'm coming back to play. Like, I know if you remember, we finished that season 15-50. So at the time he asked me this, we were probably 15-47, 14-58, I don't know, or something. He's like, how long you need? Like, I'm ramping up to come back. Like, and I want you to play, uh, I want you to play with me. So like, how long you need to— And I was like, I need a week max, like, just to get it. Like, I'm, I'm in pretty good shape. I just— a couple days of playing and I'm good to go. Like, just give me a week. He like, oh, bet, that's perfect. So I said all of that to say, he was preparing to come back in the season where we had won 15 games. Because, you know, love to play basketball. So he was preparing to come back, and then COVID happened and the season got shut down. And so he was never able to make the return, but he was coming back. So I say that from experience when I say he's not just going to shut it down just to shut it down. It's not who he is, you know. So everybody like, oh man, you should shut stuff down. And complete the tank. I can also assure you Joe Lacob isn't gonna tank. You know, I saw Matt Ischier say, it's never gonna be in my DNA to tank. You know, you get better and if we end up bad and get a good draft pick, we get a good draft pick, but we're not gonna tank. That's Joe Lacob for sure. Um, You could have just changed the face, wiped Matt's face off that comment and plastered it on the wall. And I would have guessed it was Joe Lacob as well. You know, so he's never going to take that approach. If it's hard to win games when you don't have Steph Curry, when you don't have Jimmy Butler, you know, you think of an entire offense is built around Steph Curry. Draymond Green and Jimmy Butler. You don't have those two guys, you're essentially trying to, on the fly, completely change your offense. It's a very tough thing to do. You know, when you've built a training camp, spent a lot of time during the season, all your film sessions built around these 2 people, you're essentially your entire offensive flow. And then you don't have those 2 people. You kind of have your— You kind of have your moments like we did last night versus the Clippers where you get off and it's going good. Where the game gets harder is once the game stops and you don't have those guys and you need to get into your sets. Now you're really trying to, on the fly, put a completely different offense together. And so I said, I'd say, if we were to naturally just lose, then that happens. But it won't be because this organization is going to be like, oh man, we're throwing in the towel, let's tank situation. That ain't going to happen.

Yeah.

I don't foresee that happening. So, you know, Jimmy goes out with an ACL, a large, you know, that shaves off a part of our offense. You know, things that you've incorporated in the offense to fit Jimmy's style of play. Kind of shaves that off. You have Steph for a few more games and then he's gone. That saves off a large chunk of offense. Right? And so there is no Steph Curry. There is no Jimmy Butler to just insert into those roles. That's why they make $60 million a year. That's why they are who they are. You don't just, you can't just insert someone into what they do. And so, It's difficult to win those games. The one thing you're gonna do is you're gonna go out, compete hard every night, and try to give yourself a chance to win. Moses Moody went down last night. Hopefully that's nothing too serious. Will Richard went down the game before. Porzingis has been out. You know, so we've been— GP's out. So we've been, we've been hit with quite the injury bug. But like I said, all you can do is continue to fight, make sure you're maintaining and building good habits. Try to win, give yourself a chance to win these games. It's ultimately what it comes down to. Hopefully Steph's back soon. That obviously won't be any time in the next week or two. So we'll see, but we'll just keep fighting and plugging away. A bright spot last night was Nate Williams. Came out with 18, great defense he was playing. It's good to see the young fella get his opportunity and take advantage of it. So shout out to Nate.

Yeah.

We gonna need more people to keep stepping up. I need to try to play better. I think for myself is you run a whole, you run an offense for 12 years and then just on the fly, you're trying to switch it. It's an adjustment, you know, but I take that adjustment head on. I take it on the chin. Continue to try to bring energy and life to the floor guidance while trying to figure this style out and and play better. Uh, but it's a part of it. It happens. It is what it is. I will keep pushing. And may the results fall where they may. After the break, I'll go around the association, react to Lou Dort and Joker's altercation, uh, Lou Cornett's latest blog post, Stephen A. Smith's thoughts on MyNikoharrison's comments, and much, much more. Be back right after this. Sports and pizza have a lot in common.

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What's up, welcome back to the show. As promised, we'll move around the association. First up, we got Stephen A. Smith. He commented on my quote about Nico Harrison, where I called out the media because all of those people who said, Nico, you're crazy. And I made very clear that I think Luka Dončić is a special of a player. As there is. And there was a statement made from Zach Lowe saying Luka Dončić is unwatchable. I don't think that could ever be possible. Maybe when Luka's on his last leg and like can't get by you anymore, or, you know, it's a little too slow to make you bite on the hesi, or, you know, like Father Time, I'm speaking of, then maybe Luka Dončić becomes unwatchable.

But—

But I just didn't agree with that take. And so what I did was I gave a take on that, but on the Nico Harrison situation as a whole, which is a year ago when Luka Dončić was traded and Nico did multiple press conferences because everyone has had a million questions. Everyone said you can't trade a player like Luka Dončić, this, that, and the other. That's what all the media said. That was the consensus. And due to that, had a very, very, very huge impact on Nico Harrison ultimately getting fired, losing his livelihood. Stephen A., in his statement that I'm gonna read to y'all that he made, actually says it in so many words. So be that all the media members said, "Oh man, this guy, how dare him trade Luka Dončić." and he gave all his reasons why and still got crucified. And for a year later, those various, those very same media members saying he's unwatchable. Luka Dončić is unwatchable. You can't win with a player like that. All of these guys now have been crushing Luka Dončić. And see, it's a problem in overall media in itself. But all of these guys, all of these media members this year, especially last year, crushing Luka Dončić, like crushing him so much so to the point to where it's said that he's unwatchable. I don't agree that Luka Dončić is unwatchable, but that he's unwatchable. All these very same people saying that were the very same people saying Nico Harrison should be fired for trading Luka Dončić. In my statement, I said the only thing, I said, now I can see where you say, yo, Nico Harrison, how did you not get Austin Reeves? How did you not get both first round picks? Yes. Great. You could throw those things out there. And I said that.

Yeah.

But you all can't say he shouldn't have traded Luka, he shouldn't have traded Luka, and then follow that up within a year's time and say he's unwatchable, you can't win with him, this, that, and the other. Because if I go back and watch Nico Harrison's comments, his comments were, I think defense wins championships. I think we're able to put a team out there that can compete defensively that'll ultimately help us win. His comments were all along those lines, which are the very lines that all of you guys, or ladies, are crushing Luka about. But when he said that, everyone wanted him fired, and ultimately he did get fired. So let me read his take. He's very wrong. I think Draymond is being incredibly unfair. Unfair to who? Draymond Green? The media? Technically, I mean, I'm not being unfair, but when is the media ever fair? So to call for fairness in a world where they're extremely unfair, it's a little—

Yeah.

Just a little— It's, I don't know, like, it's kind of a pot calling the kettle black. The reality of the situation is, getting back to his quote, the reality of the situation is Draymond is saying that because he's fond of Nico Harris. Stephen A kind of got fond of Jerry Jones and changed his whole tune when it comes to talking about Jerry. But I also see you, you know, you criticize the Dallas Cowboys. So I don't understand why I can't have a fondness or relationship somewhere to make a fair assessment. Where does that stop for me that I can't be fond of someone or know someone or have a, and make a fair assessment? I don't quite No, again, there's another double standard in this. He said you got Anthony Davis and Max Christie and a pick to show for Luka Dončić. That was the crime. Okay. I said that in my statement. I didn't say it was a crime. It's not a crime. It's not a crime. But, okay. He said, we talk about this one deal, which was egregious and forever stain him, so much so that it is highly unlikely he will ever get a job as a basketball executive in the NBA again.

Probably right.

Nico Harrison is highly touted, human being and his life will be just fine. Maybe not in the NBA, his life will be just fine. The problem that I have is we're calling for all this accountability, but all these guys just get to say things and there's zero accountability. There's zero accountability when it comes to me. Just literally get to throw shit at a wall and see if it sticks. Zero accountability, but always want to hold others accountable. I don't understand. Like, these guys don't have to answer for these awful-ass takes they make, how wrong they be in most situations. But these are all experts. I don't understand it. I don't understand it. I just don't understand it. It's the only thing you can become an expert in and never have any experience with the game. But no one's held accountable. But we want to hold everyone else accountable. That was my take about Nico Harrison. Everyone wanted to hold him accountable. Those same very people get to come out and now crush Luka Dončić. Yeah. So we're just crushing everyone that's doing something, that's done something. We're just crushing everyone. Because initially it was, "Nika," about Luka. Now we're destroying Luka. But you people crushed Hill for Hill. Now you crushed Hill. Where's the accountability? I have not seen one person come out and say, Well, Nico said X, Y, and Z. I agree with it.

You don't have to agree that Luke is a bad player because he never said that.

But you're saying he's unwatchable. So my entire point was, where is the accountability? And how long does everyone just get to throw shit out of Wallace and see if it sticks and be called experts?

Yeah.

That was my take.

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Moving forward, like I said, there's another altercation in the NBA. These things are becoming quite common. Lou Dort and Nikola Jokic. It was viewed that Lou Dort made a dirty play and Joker reacted. A lot of people I saw said the play was dirty. That was— Joker had a left knee injury. He stuck his butt out and right into Joker's knee. Fortunately, he was not hurt. Was it a dirty play or not? Um, listen, I'm not, I'm not one to— one thing I respect about Shaquille O'Neal, um, of the many things that I respect about Shaquille O'Neal, Is when things go on, as a guy who played, when things go on with players, he's not one to shoot guys down and act like he didn't do such. He'll actually follow it up with, well, I did X, Y, and Z. And I got so much respect for that, 'cause I have very little respect when guys go act like they didn't play, like they didn't do things. And so in saying that, was it a dirty play? I think it was definitely intentional, but I'm not one to get into dirty, not, I'll give you my opinion on what I think, but I'm not one to get into condemning. And because you know what I don't wanna do? I don't wanna call, be the pot calling the kettle black. I've had my fair share of things to happen in the NBA. If you wanted to walk through them, I could walk you through all of them because a lot of people don't see things how I see them. They can't process, just like last week when I, the thing with DeAndre Jordan would've never crossed any of my mind. Like, oh shit, this man just saved 7 seconds in the game. They gonna need those 7 seconds. Yeah. Don't cross somebody's minds, don't think like that, which I don't expect you to. So we could walk through them. But anyway, I'm not gonna be the pot calling the kettle black. I think it was intentional, sure, because what other time do you do it? But is it an overreaction? Is Lou Dort dirty? This, that, and the other. That's for y'all to debate and y'all to decide. I think I would've had the same reaction Joker had. I will say that.

Yeah.

I definitely think I would have had the same reaction. And I will say I'm happy Joker didn't get kicked out. I saw a lot of people like, oh man, if that was Draymond, he would have got— and probably so, but two wrongs don't make a right. And I always think it's wrong when they try to toss the guy out because something got did to him and then he does something back. I think that's bullshit. So regardless of if it was me or not, we already know what goes on with me. That's neither here nor there. I was happy to see that Joker didn't get kicked out the game because he didn't deserve to get kicked out the game because he should have a reaction. What do you do? Just get up and walk away? By the way, also, if he just get up and walk away, here's how NBA referees work. If he just gets up and walk away, they may not even review it. If you don't have a reaction, they may not even review it. So I'm happy to see that Joker didn't get kicked out the game for that.

Yeah.

In other news, Giannis returned to the court for the Bucks after missing 5 weeks. Bucks got blown out by the Celtics, 108 to 81. And the question is, are the Bucks now playoff contenders with Giannis' return and additions of Ousmane Dieng and Cam Thomas on the bench, or is Doc Rivers holding them back? I don't think Doc Rivers is holding anyone back. I think, um, The reason Giannis is asking, you know, or been throwing his trade stuff around is because he didn't ultimately feel like the roster is good enough. That's not a Doc Rivers issue. That's a front office issue. So I don't think Doc Rivers is holding anyone back. As I told y'all before, I think Cam Thomas, the best coach he could possibly play for is Doc Rivers. A la Lou Williams, a la Jamal Crawford. Best coach he can play for, Montrezl Harrell, is Lou Williams, especially if he's gonna be in a 6-man role. Cam Thomas, with the way he plays and the way Giannis plays, probably best suited for that team in a 6-minute role to where, you know, he's getting 16 minutes a game without Giannis on the court. Yeah. Where the ball is just in his hand. I think that's sometimes how coaches look at rotations, right? Like, and then what he could do with Giannis out there, you see. But at least he has some time with the ball in his hands that gives him the best possible chance to be of value to this ball club. Uh, Ousmane Dieng, I think, you know, he's had some good games, but I think he still is going to require a lot of time to grow. Uh, yes, he won a championship in OKC. Sparingly played, has the championship experience, doesn't necessarily have the playing experience though. And so it's gonna take time to even see if he's gonna pan out like everyone assume. I really like his game. I think, you know, he shoots the ball well, great length, you know, so we'll see, but I don't think he just makes them playoff contenders right now. No. Like I think that's more of a play over the next year or two. Cam Thomas can help that, but again, like I said, I think Giannis's biggest issue, you're usually not getting someone off the buyout market that's just making you a playoff contender like that. And so I don't know that the moves necessarily make them a playoff contender right away. But Draymond Green long term. Cam Thomas is still very young. They could be plays for later, but I don't know that they make them contenders right now, be that both of them have very little playoff experience. Dwight Howard wants a retirement tour. As one once said, you ain't Kobe, they don't love you like that. Facing that farewell tour. However, Dwight, And the problem with the retirement tour, and Dwight tweeted, people like Taj Gibson, Al Horford is the reason I ain't retired. I want a farewell tour. Dwight Howard last played in the NBA during the 2021-2022 Golden State Warriors championship season. Much love to Dwight, man. Got the Orange Jacket Hall of Famer. You did it, brother. You beat the game. You beat the game, bro. Ain't no retirement tour, no farewell tour. You got it. You got the tour, brother. It was to Springfield, Massachusetts. That was the tour. That's the end of the game, Dwight. I see Todd still doing it. Al still doing it. Dwight, they haven't beat the game, brother. You beat the game, man. Congratulations. We are all trying to beat the game, Dwight. Congrats, my man. You beat the game. You gonna do? Start back at stage 1, Mortal Kombat, and see if you can beat the game again? You gonna go back to the hood, see if you can get to the top again? I don't think Dwight came from the hood, but you get my point. Maybe from his pop's church. You gonna go back there and see if you, like, you beat the game, man. Enjoy it, brother. Go have you another Hall of Fame party. You can have a Hall of Fame party for the rest of your life. And every time you had that Hall of Fame party, when you type on that flyer, Dwight Howard Hall of Fame party.

Yeah. There's not one per—

you can do that once a year. There's not a person in the world that can say, why Dwight Howard having a Hall of Fame party? Cause you beat the game, brother. Enjoy it, my man. Hope to pray to join you one day. But job well done and well deserved. You beat the game. Luke Cornett calls on the Hawks to cancel their upcoming Magic City night on March 16th. He said, the NBA should desire to protect and esteem women, many of whom work diligently every day to make this the best basketball league in the world. We should promote an atmosphere that is protective and respectful of the daughters, wives, sisters, mothers, and partners that we know and love. Allowing this night to go forward without protest will reflect poorly on us as a community, an NBA community specifically, in being complicit in the potential objectification and mistreatment of women in our society. Um, I object to what Luke Cornett is saying. And the reason I object, as a man with a wife, as a man with daughters, as a man with sisters, and as a man with an amazing mother and an amazing grandmother, an incredible aunts and nieces. Um, Magic City is an establishment that was built by Mr. Magic, um, a business that he has had for over 30 years now, extreme success, um, with an option for females to work there.

Mm-hmm.

To point to protecting women or their esteem, you also have an option to go to that establishment. And people have been making that choice for 30 years, from the workers to the customers, making that choice for 30 years. I think to point out that they have esteem issues because that's the line of work they chose, I actually think is less protective of women. Because you're condemning something as if it's actually an art. Like, I don't know if you've ever been, but like, if you see it in action, it's actually a form of art that some choose to indulge in and some choose not to indulge in.

Mm-hmm.

But to say that because a woman decides that that's the art that they want to partake in and that the customer wants to take in, I think is reflective on society's thoughts and how they once viewed things. But I don't necessarily think it's a hit on the esteem of women. When you talk about the esteem of these women, might I mention that Cardi B is currently on a world tour selling out stadiums and it is quite the entertaining show. I actually went at Chase Center a few days ago. Yeah. Selling out stadiums and, and her background would be that. I don't think Cardi B has esteem issues. So I think that's actually a negative vantage point on these women that are in this line of work, that because they choose this line of work, that they have esteem issues. I actually wholeheartedly disagree. Wholeheartedly disagree. Magic is also a big part of Atlanta culture. Huge, huge, huge part of Atlanta culture. To say that a huge part of Atlanta culture reflects poorly on the NBA as a community, I completely disagree. Yeah. Because the NBA as a community is a very inclusive community. So why this particular night is bad for the community, I don't quite understand it in a very inclusive community. By the way, if you don't agree to partake in what happens at the establishment, Quite honestly, this is marketing. What happens at that establishment won't be happening at the Hawks game. There won't be pictures of it on the Hawks jumbo truck. Because that's a choice that one must make to go to that establishment and see. But that's not quite how this would be marketed. So I completely and wholeheartedly disagree with Luke Cornett. Mm-hmm. I respect how Luke Kornet feels. I respect that he made his feelings known. But I disagree with them wholeheartedly. And March 16th, shout out to the Atlanta Hawks and Magic City Night and Mr. Magic. What a big deal for Atlanta. Shout out to them and kudos. 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So I really like those moments, but shout out to Cardi. That was an incredible, incredible performance. Great show. If it has not been to a city that you live in and it does come to a city, you should check it out. I was gonna actually take my girls. They love Cardi B and we listened to the edited version, but you know, the concert isn't edited. However, the first two segments isn't quite the segment that's going around on Instagram. So I actually probably could have taken them to the first two segments because they was pretty tame and chill. But the show was incredible. Incredible show. So shout out to Cardi putting out a dope product like that. I've seen quite a bit of performers. You name them, I've seen everybody. And that was one of the more entertaining shows. That I've seen. So that was a fun moment for me this week. And as you know, I always have fun hanging with my kids and just learning more and more about them each day. It is pretty amazing. Next up, what stopped my scroll this week was the K-pop group Blackpink name dropped me in their new song, "Me My." And it's in verse 2 where it goes, "Just me and my day ones, pretty girls walking." Pretty girls walking. Gold like we Draymond, they pay us for a walk-in. Shout out to them. Blackpink, I think they will be doing a show at Chase Center at some point. I'd imagine they're huge and I can't imagine that they would not come to Chase Center. So if they do, hopefully I'm in town and able to see that. But it's always dope to get referenced in a song. And you know, most commonly basketball players are usually referenced in rap songs, which is great, incredible, fun experience. It's always like a badge of honor when you're a basketball player and you get referenced in a rap song. This right here is a completely different badge of honor. You're talking BLACKPINK, K-pop. Like, my daughters love K-pop. My oldest is definitely—

I love K-pop.

Listens to some BLACKPINK. So to be dropped in like a BLACKPINK song, like, I actually haven't listened to the song yet because I want to sit down and listen to it, which I'll do today with my children and see their reaction. Because that's going to make me a cool dad. So shout out to BLACKPINK. I really appreciate them. Super dope. Congrats on all the success in the past and moving forward. You gained a fan in me. Lastly, each week I'll share something I saw on the court, in the real world, or on the news that demonstrated real toughness to me. And this week I got two people, former teammates. Kyrie Irving, one year since he tore his ACL. And the reason I mentioned Kyrie Irving, it's one year today, he stood at that free throw line and thanked God just to, for the opportunity to shoot the free throws. And that to me was a real moment because we all go through trials.— and tribulations in life. And in one of his toughest moments, he stood there and said, thank God I get to shoot these free throws. We haven't seen Kyrie play since, but to see him in his faith in that moment, know that God doesn't make mistakes, and all the way bought into that. Kudos and shout out to Kyrie. Hope the recovery is going really well. Looking forward to seeing him back out on the floor next year. Jason Tatum is next up. Jason Tatum started releasing different snippets or, you know, segments, clips, videos from his injury recovery. And there's rumors that Jason Tatum will be back on the floor later this week. They have not been confirmed, but I hope so because man, the game is Jason Tatum. And all that he gives to this game. And so, But more importantly, happy birthday to JT. Today is JT's birthday. And just to be in a position to where he could possibly come back, not even, it's actually just been 10 full months from an Achilles surgery. A guy who has every reason to sit out as long as he want to. That's real toughness. That's real love for the game. Happy birthday to JT. Shout out to JT. I wanna thank you all again for tuning in to the Draymond Green Show. Next up, we got a tough one against the Rockets. Uh, go try to figure it out. Till next time, deuce.

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