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I think he should use it if they win in Game 2. I think he should use it if they win in Game 3, Game 4, Game 5.

Yeah, just be the villain.

What's up everybody? Welcome back to the Draymond Green Show with my brother BD. What's happening, my dog?

What's up, big dog?

Playoffs is crazy, bro. I know you was at that game the other night.

I know.

Obviously I was there. How you feeling after your mixtape fell off, bro? Oh man.

Defeated, depleted. You know, just kind of like punched in the— like, you know how you get the wind knocked out of you?

Mm-hmm.

When you standing in front of somebody when you was a kid and you don't know if you really about to fight that person, but they take off on you and give you one in the gut and knock the wind out of you. You like, "Ah, damn. Okay, this may probably be a fight." Like, how am I gonna hit this fool back? I gotta get my wind back. But that's how I felt, bro. That's, that's how I felt. I think, you know, the Knicks played great for, you know, 45 minutes of, of, of the basketball they wanted to play. The last 3 minutes of those 48, you know, they kind of just start unraveling. And I, I don't think it was the pressure of, oh, the Eastern Conference Finals or this and that. I just think that they kind of like lost focus.

Right.

You know, sometimes you get up and shit is going well, you the aggressor, and then all of a sudden a couple things don't go your way and then you get in panic mode. And then I, that's what I think. I think the turnovers, I think the not the ability not to handle Indiana's pressure down the stretch. You know, we didn't show a lot of poise. That was my takeaway. It was a gut punch, right? It was like we got the wind knocked out of us big time. The whole city.

It's tough, man, when you win a game in the playoff series, like you literally win the game and you look up and your record has one more loss. It's one thing to get outplayed and lose a game. You know what I'm saying? It's one thing for the ball not to go in. Like all of these things happen. But when you won the game and you lose in a playoff series. Yeah. Like completely just give the game away. It's hard to come back from that because A, again, it's one thing if you're just the superior team and you lost focus and you like, oh man, we'll get it together, we about to, guys. But when you're remotely close teams, you gonna have one bad game throughout the series where the ball just don't go in. And so you're fighting an uphill battle for the rest of the series to try to make this game up. And when I look at this, at that, the collapse the other day, you look at KAT, you know, I watch, you know, I watch interviews, like interviews tell you a lot. You look at KAT in the postgame, he could barely get through a sentence. Him and Draymond Green sat up there together. Draymond did most of the talking. Like you could just tell they were crushed. And you gotta come back from that.

Like—

Yep. And I just don't know if they can recover from that gut punch. Like, end of the day, series is 1-0, but all wins aren't created equal.

No, for sure.

Yeah, the series is just 1-0, but now they have to fight to win the game. They also have to fight this feeling that anytime they get a lead in the rest of this series, It's gonna be like, "Oh man, oh my God, like don't do it. Like we can't do that again. We know what's gonna happen." You know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah.

All that shit. So you're fighting that too now.

Yep.

We were sitting up there by the Billy Joel sign. Like we was up there with the guy that go to, the dude that play the organ.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We was sitting up there with him.

He called, he called.

He crazy. We was sitting up there with him. I had a bird's eye view. And one thing I noticed, and I was really shocked because you like to think that Knicks fan would wanna take all of it in, like win in, they like, they wanna winning in the conference finals for the Knicks. Like they wanna feel every emotion they could feel throughout. And so I was shocked to see about 4 or 5 minutes to go, a few fans leaving. Were you one of those fans that was leaving?

Man, that's jacked up because we up 14. We drove to the game, so we parked in the parking structure.

I didn't even know there was parking in New York City.

Yeah, man, it's a parking structure right across the street from the Garden. So me and my homie, we go to the parking structure, And if you ever been in a parking lot in New York City, it give me anxiety, man. They park on the side, up the ramp.

I'm like, how the hell you get outta here?

How they get all these cars in here? First of all, how they gonna get all these cars outta here? So I'm thinking like, damn, bro, we on the 4th floor, right? It's gonna take us about an hour and a half if we don't be the first people to walk outta here and be in our car and start moving down the ramp. You know what I mean? Before— Yeah. Everybody start coming out. About 2 minutes to go, we up 14. Me and Omri sitting there. I'm like, "Damn, bro." He like, "Man." He feeling good. He a Knicks fan. He like, "Yeah, we got this." I'm like, "Yeah." I'm like, "Damn, I'm thinking about this parking." So we sitting there talking for like the next 30 seconds. I'm like, "Man, let's just shoot to the parking lot. You feel me? Let's shoot to the parking lot." So good thing I don't know where I'm going, I was kind of disoriented. So I walk to leave, I run into JR, Swish, he on the other side. He like, "Boom, come sit with me and Melo." I'm like, "Ah man, you know the game over, Swish." He was like, "Man, come sit with us." I go over there, sit on the floor, say what's up to LJ, all the Nick alum. You know, next thing you know, Indiana down 8, right? We talking Indiana down 5.

Now we over there panicking. Now we over there panicking. Yo, close out the game. Like, come on, man.

I mean, like, you know, everybody said something. Everybody like, come on, man, shit. You know, all we gotta do is protect the ball, make some free throws. And then when Halliburton shot the ball, I was like, "Man, there's no way this shit gonna go in," right? Man, when the ball bounced, I started walking out the arena, dude. I was like, "Damn, it's over." I thought he hit a 3. Then somebody was like, "Oh, it was a 2." I came back, I said, "Spree, is it a 2?" He was like, "Yeah, it was a 2." I was like, "Damn." Shiz, the homie, was already at the parking lot. He kept mobbin'. He kept mobbin' to the parking lot. I call him, I'm like, "Yo, where you at?" He was like, "Man, we beat the traffic. I'm about to pick you up." I'm like, "Nah, dog, it's overtime.

You may need to get back in here." He like, "What?" Damn.

Like, you shouldn't have left that game.

That part.

And it was some big Knick fans that was leaving on my side too. That was like, "Whoo, man." Like, I was like, "How you feeling?" He was like, "Man, it's gonna depend on how the outcome of this game." And he left. Like a minute. So I don't know if that dude even made it home safe. He probably crashed something. He probably crashed something.

Listen, bro, the energy in this city is crazy. I saw people last night, I know guys who own different restaurants and social clubs, where they said the vibe was so crazy in the place.

Oh my God, it was crazy.

And then once the game ended, it was just like—

Silence.

Yep. Everybody started going home. Like the night was over. It's crazy because me and Chuck was standing up there 5 minutes before with the end game. We like, "Ooh man, New York City is about to be great tonight." And it just fell apart. I couldn't believe it. Like, I couldn't believe—

It just went silent.

What I was watching. And now I'm so excited to go to the game tonight because as a player in these moments, one of the things that Steve talks about oftentimes in these hot pressure moments is, yo, let's make that crowd nervous. "Let's go in here." 3-3, game 7. And I've obviously been in this situation a bunch of times with Steve Kerr. "Let's go in here, play our game, let it fly. We letting it rip. You open, let it rip. We ain't got nothing to lose. Like, we good, we here, we already know how this is gonna go." And then he say, "Let's make that crowd nervous." Yeah. Let's put some doubt in that crowd. We wanna hear the angst that, you wanna hear that from the crowd. I'm looking forward to tonight and just seeing the angst of the crowd because if they miss them first few shots, it's gonna be like, ugh.

Ugh. Ugh. Oh.

Oh.

Oh.

Oh. It's gonna be, so much angst. And that's what I'm here to see, man. You gotta make the crowd nervous. And if I'm Indiana, I'm coming in here to make this crowd so nervous. If Indiana start the game how they started game 1, they hit like their first 8 or 9 shots in game 1.

Yeah, they hit a bunch of shots.

You looked up, they were up 4 points. I was like, man, that's not good. But if they start off hitting shots like they did in game 1, ooh. I'm just telling you, uh, it's gonna be tough, BD.

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You gotta play the game, right? And so it's a new game. So at some point, you gotta put game one behind. You gotta come out and know that you played great basketball, you had control, You know, for 45 minutes, that's all you gotta do is close. Then you gotta get to Indiana and you can steal one. Cause the matchups is there. I still think the Knicks have the superior matchups. I still think that they will beat Indiana and will beat Indiana in Indiana. And you know, the playoffs, you know, the Eastern Conference Finals starts when somebody wins on the road.

So it started there.

Yeah, it did. It's on and cracking. Yeah, it's on and cracking. I mean, you talk about stealing one, right? That was thievery at its finest, man. What do you think about Tyrese Halliburton? He hit the Reggie Miller choke celebration. Oh, that was cold-blooded, man.

Hey, as much as I love the choke celebration, and I pray to God I hope the NBA don't fine him. We take so many things so literal and like in today's day and age, you can't act like you're choking someone.

And like, let's face it. Come on, guys. Let's face it. Come on.

The guy is not really about to choke someone. And so I hope the NBA don't fine him because that's what we paying to see. Like you talk about entertainers being entertainers, you talk about stars being stars on the biggest stage at the Mecca. Like the stars showing up. I pray the NBA don't find him. But I will tell you this about the choke. My favorite thing about the choke was Tyrese after the game saying, "Ah, I don't know if I should have used it in game one." That was—

that's what I'm saying.

That's my favorite part.

That shit may come back to haunt you, Killer.

Ooh, hey, I'm telling you, that was my favorite part of the choke. He said, "Ah." I don't know if I should have used it in game 1, but I'm here to say I think he should use it if they win in game 2. I think he should use it if they win in game 3, game 4, game 5. Yeah, just be the villain. Like just lean into it at this point now. 'Cause Draymond Green back down the court with Reggie Miller himself in the building.

Yeah, that was crazy.

With Spike Lee in the building.

Spike wasn't there.

Spike wasn't in the building?

Nah, Spike wasn't in the building.

Oh, I thought Spike was in the building. Okay.

Dave Chappelle was in the building.

That's shocking Spike wasn't in the building. I told you, listen, from where we were sitting, you couldn't see who. You couldn't see it.

They look like magnets.

Yeah, you couldn't. But I thought Spike was, but to run down the court like this, man.

That's ill, bro.

That's crazy. I can't believe you did that.

That's ill. Tyrese Halliburton made 4 game-tying or go-ahead field goals in the final 5 seconds. Of the fourth quarter. That's third behind Reggie Miller with 5 and LeBron James with 8 since 1997, the year I graduated from high school. You weren't even born yet, bro.

That's crazy, don't do me like that. I was 7. You was a young Junior Deacon, you feel me? Yeah, absolutely, I was 7, you know what I'm saying?

Exactly.

Still in Sunday school every Sunday. Didn't go to church. Exactly. You know what I'm saying, for sure. I was still in church choir at that age. You better believe.

Me too, bro.

You know what I'm saying? You have to. I got out the church choir, BD. We was singing, you know, Kirk Franklin, "There's a Man." Yeah. I had the first part. There's a man standing. And I was almost talking it. And my family talked about me so bad. They said I said, "There's a man." Oh yeah. And that was the end of my choir days when they talked about, How I let out with the song. But yeah, bro, I was 7 at that time. That's crazy though.

We gotta put you at the alto. We gotta put you in the back, the alto.

They had me the leadoff batter. I set the tone. It wasn't a good tone.

He was done after that.

I remember my outfit though. It was for Easter Sunday. I had some new black jeans my mom had bought me and a red, Number 1 Maryland Terrapins jersey. I don't know why. It was a football jersey.

At church?

Yeah, bro. I ain't had no money like that. I ain't had no extra outfit. I had to wear that outfit to school on Monday.

Damn.

I had to wear that outfit to school on Monday, BD.

Damn.

That was my Easter Sunday outfit. And the last name on the back of the number 1 Maryland Terrapins jersey, It just said, "Terrapins." Oh. So that was my choir days, '97. That's what I had going on, baby.

That's so killer.

Man, bro, Brunson obviously clutch player of the year. When I'm looking at this Pacers team though, teams all year has watched Jalen Brunson dominate the fourth quarter. And I thought Rick Carlisle did one good thing. And it was alarming to me. Rick Carlisle in the fourth, late in the fourth quarter in overtime, start trapping Jaylen Russ. And I don't think he's seen traps all year. Yes. And one of the alarming things to me about that, BD, was you're always in game one looking for the adjustment for game two. And unfortunately for the Knicks, the Pacers get to make all the adjustments that they know lost them the game. But they won the game. And so I think Rick Carlisle was like, yeah, we gonna start blitzing them next game. And then like you said, 14 turned 11, 11 turned into 8, 8 turned to 5, 5 turned to 2. And all of a sudden, Rick Carlisle, maybe we got a chance to win this game. We gonna start blitzing now. And they start blitzing. And one of the alarming things to me was Jalen Brunson in the blitz. As soon as the— Yeah. The trap start to converge on him. He had a problem. He never looked up. He, every time the blitz came, two guys, he like— He tried to split. He tried to split. Yeah, and then he threw some of the passes, he jumped out of bounds. Even if you don't blitz him the whole game, if Indiana feel like they don't blitz him the whole game, I think you have to give Jalen Brunson a different coverage in the fourth quarter than you do the rest of the game. And if I'm them, every fourth quarter, I'm trapping the hell outta him because OG Anunoby, none of those guys have been in these positions much to take over the game down the stretch. OG had a couple game winners and that's fine, but they haven't consistently had to make the plays down the stretch because Jalen makes 'em and he's made 'em all year.

Yep.

And I wanna put them guys in that position. So in the fourth quarter, I need to see a totally different game plan.

Yeah, I think the Knicks need to work on a press break. Right? If Jalen Brunson is your primary ball handler, your primary score, and Carlisle starts to trap him, you gotta figure out who else can bring the ball up and settle us down.

Yep.

And I think putting that pressure on Jalen Brunson to try and beat two people every time, and that, and him putting that pressure on himself, right, is really, you ain't worked on a press break. You gotta work on some pressure releases, get Mikal Bridges in the middle of the floor, or OG, you gotta put pressure you gotta put pressure on pressure. And I think the Knicks, what they did was they, they kind of like allowed the pressure to happen and then tried to force. That's what pressure does. It, it, it creates force.

Mm-hmm.

And it forces you to do things instead of creating more pressure on the, their defense. If it's a two-man trap, then it should be a three on, three on two on the back end. And the Knicks never, like, they never got a wide open shot. A layup, a foul, or even let the shot clock expire.

Right?

That was my issue. We need a press break and we need to figure out a way of Jalen Brunson gonna start getting double-teamed and trapped at the end of the game. He gotta get off the rock and then he gotta get the rock back with 8, 7 seconds on the shot clock. So if they double again, at least we go get a wide open shot.

Mm-hmm.

Get him out the front of the defense.

Who you got winning this series?

Man, I wanna believe the Knicks gonna win this series, but I just don't see it happening, BD. Oh my gosh. I wanna believe they gonna win it. Pascal Siakam played not that good and they won this game, man. That's trouble. Myles Turner effectively got benched.

Yeah.

And they won game 1. And BD, that's trouble, man. I know trouble when I see it. I grew up in Saginaw like you grew up in South Central. You know trouble when you see it coming from a mile away. That's trouble, boy.

All right, Dov Nation, what up? We gotta start this segment by congratulating you. Named First Team All-Defensive for the 5th time in your career. 9 All-Defensive teams in a 13-year career. Bro, congratulations.

Appreciate it.

Well deserved. I also wanna add in, which I have been saying all year on the podcast, Steve Kerr said at the end of the season, he mentioned that starting you as center, I think is doable for the last 30 games like we did this year. But as you see, it takes a toll on him. One, congratulations.

Appreciate you, bro.

What do you think about, you know, those comments? 'Cause I agree. I've been saying that all year. When Draymond Green does not have to, assume all of the defensive responsibilities, then it makes the engine turn, right?

First off, thank you. For me to be on All-Defense First Team and look at the guys next to me, 26 years old, 23 years old, 22 years old, 22 years old. I'm sitting there looking at that like, wow, man. Like, I remember being a young guy in the league and like still seeing Tim Duncan making All-Defensive teams. You know what I'm saying? Like, dang, yo, he's still there. Doing it. And to be just finished, completed year 13 and still up there with those young guys and like, like it's such an honor to be up there with those guys because I remember being that young guy and I know that grind of like, yo, what you striving for? And so to understand their mindset of where they are in their careers and how every day looks like for them. Yeah. And knowing how every day look for me and where I am in my career and to still be up there, bro, it's such an honor. And I'm ecstatic to have 5 first teams is a big deal to me. And I'll tell you why.

That's huge.

Because it's one thing to be on all defensive team. I love it. But I had the pleasure and honor of having Chris Paul as a teammate last year. And bro, I think CP got like 7 first teams. So it actually inspired me. I said it to CP last year, like, see, you got 7 first teams. And so I want that, you know, and man, to be on that list is incredible. And as far as Steve, what Steve said, God bless his heart. Yeah, it was real. It is because playing the 5, it's hard. Like it's hard. And I'm always down to do it, as you know, bro. Like any challenge you throw my way, I'll take on the challenge. But it's hard battling every night guys who outweigh me by 60 to 80 pounds and they—

Or 4 inches.

4, 5, 6, 7 inches taller than me.

Right.

Yeah. It does take a toll. And in most situations for me where I notice it's taking a toll, like I come out in the first half because I still got my legs and like the J ball is fire. You know what I'm saying? Then I come out in the second half, where you've been battling.

You can't even feel it.

You anchoring the defense, you know what I'm saying? I don't think people understand the toll of and what anchoring the defense requires. Like that mean every possession I have to put myself in a position to stop a fire, you know what I'm saying? To like help stop something. It takes a lot, you know what I'm saying? But like I always say, I'm cut out for whenever our organization need to go to it, I'm right here, let's do it. I ain't gonna never complain about it. But I agree with, with Steve, if, if we can have a, a different starting center and at some point if we need to go to that, cool. But it, it's a lot. And as I get older and older in this league, it, it, it, it becomes tougher and tougher. These guys get younger, more athletic. And like I said, I, I think I'm more than capable of hanging with the young guys and the athleticism, but it does take its toll. So I agree. Yeah.

Yeah, you need a matchup. You can't be matched up with everybody. And, and you know, looking at, you know, the time now is you switching out to a one, you switching out to Anthony Edwards, you switching out to Julius Randle, you switching out to Nas Reid, you got Rudy Gobert, you gotta stand him up. You got Sagoon, you got Adams, you trying to stand them up. You trying to switch off to Draymond Green. You know, it becomes the toll Right? Because all— now all you thinking about is defense, defense, defense, defense, defense. Because that's the only real energy that you have to get that rebound or to stop that pick and roll. So on the offensive end, I always say this, is it takes away from, you know, from you because you are more of a— you're an offensive playmaker. For the team. So if you don't feel like you can make a play, you can finish a play, you can shoot the ball to keep the defense honest, then it kind of disrupts the offensive flow. But if you can come in and say, hey, I'm going to guard the power forward all game, and then I'm gonna wind up on Sagoon at the end of the game, then it, it makes your job easier, right? And it makes anchoring easy, but it also saves a lot of legs, your intellect, You know, and you can get more outta Draymond Green on the offensive end. And you know, that's what I've been saying all year, but I've been seeing it taking a toll. That's why I asked, how you feel, man? 'Cause I can see like you wearing down, right? You wearing down because at every game you gotta push, you gotta push some big dudes around.

You know what I mean? 1000%. Nah, I can feel that. So I agree. When I look back at 2022, when we won that championship, bro, and specifically I go back to that Denver series, just about every game we would start Looney on Joker. And then I switched to Joker. And even if it's for the first 6 minutes, bro, again, it makes such a big difference. Even if it's for 6 minutes, Looney battle with him, and then I go battle with him. You know what I'm saying? It makes all the difference in the world. So I'm definitely, I'm rolling. I think I can use that. So I love it.

Congrats, my bro.

Congrats. Appreciate it, my dog. Hey, so we all make mistakes, but owning up is the right thing to do.

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So, yeah, I'm definitely rocking with Steve on that. I agree 100%. Uh, and also, speaking of Steve comments, I know there's a big fuss about, uh, his statement on Jonathan Kuminga yesterday. And for our fans out there that haven't seen the statement, I'll give you some context. Uh, I think he was on with Tim Kawakami, and they were talking about JK, and Steve's answer was, it's a tricky one because Jonathan obviously is gifted and wants to play a bigger role and wants to play more. And for me, I've been asked to win. And right now he's not a guy who I can say I'm going to play 38 minutes with the roster that we have, Steph, Jimmy, and Draymond, and put the puzzle together that way and expect to win. And so I think, you know, when I look at that statement, uh, I think I, I take a couple things away from that statement. Uh, one being he said with this roster that we have, I'm not sure. He didn't say that Jonathan Kuminga can't play 38 minutes anywhere and be a successful player and be an impactful player and possibly reach his promise. That's not what he said. He said, with this roster, I don't see how that piece fits. Now, do I agree with that? I don't know. I don't know that I necessarily agree because you just haven't seen it. And so I'm not of the mindset that something just doesn't work that you haven't had the chance to see much of. But in saying, but also in saying that, I think when you look at Steve, one thing that he's shown as a coach is he gonna make the decision that he think is best regardless of what it comes with. We're talking about the same man, the same legend that didn't play Jason Tatum in the Olympics and dealt with— Yeah. All flat that came with that. But at the end, to his point, his ultimate goal is to win. And they won the gold medal. And, and that's what he set out to do. So here, I understand what he's saying. I'm, I'm not, I don't necessarily agree because we just haven't seen it and seen much of it. So to, to actually know if it does work, but If you JK, you gotta make the best decision for you. You gotta try to put yourself in the best position that you can possibly put yourself in. And so I wouldn't get caught up into Steve said this or Steve said that. I think if you're Jonathan Kamiga in this moment, Steve Kerr is Steve Kerr. He's a legend. He will be a Hall of Famer. These are just the facts. And so in saying that, I'm not sure it's worth getting caught up into the, man, he said this, my next interview, whenever that may be, I need to respond. Quite frankly, I don't think JK should have a next interview until after free agency because for what? And I think in this position where JK has to be careful, is Steve Kerr is the legend. Steve Kerr is one of the greatest coaches we've seen. JK can only lose here. Like, he can say something back, it could be the wrong thing, but he can only lose here. He has nothing to gain from trying to say something back, trying to respond to that, and he can only lose and hurt himself here. So don't say nothing. Like, free agency is happening. You gotta go into free agency, whether that's, you know, he's a restricted free agent. You gotta figure out what's gonna work for you. And that's gonna happen anyway. So I would just say, man, Steve, Steve, Steve gonna believe what he believe. And his beliefs has worked. He won 4 championships. So not gonna sit here and argue or go back and forth about his beliefs. And I don't think JK should either. Mm-hmm. But at the same time, if I'm J.K. and I'm in them shoes, I heard it, I need to move accordingly, figure out what's for me. But Steve, sit here and question him why? He got 4 championships. And I'll remind you, last time I said that to him, I said, "Wow, Coach, we got 4 of them things." Yeah. He said, "I ain't got 4, I got 9. You got 4." So that man know how to win. And there's no point in sitting here trying to question what he knows. It's been proven that he knows how to win. He knows what it takes to win. I think JK is gonna be a great player, whether he show that with the Warriors or show that somewhere else, that's on him to figure that out and his team to figure that out. Yeah. But what's been proven is Steve Kerr know how to win and JK is an incredible talent. Those things are mutually exclusive. Both things can be true and they cannot work together. And that happens in this league all the time. It is what it is. I wouldn't make too much of it. I don't think he should make too much of it. I know Steve won't make too much of it. I don't— I think, JK, you heard it. It is what it is. I'm not sure that him saying that in words is any different than, A, any conversation he's had with JK, or, B, what you kind of thought anyway. So it's been said in words. It's been put in front of you. But I don't think it's really much different than what you already thought. It just put it in words. So moving on, I don't think it's that big of a deal. Free agency is happening. You gotta figure that out. You gotta navigate. In passing, before we get outta here, I know we haven't talked about the OKC-Minnesota series much. It's obviously Minnesota's down 0-2. So to your point of a road team not winning, it just don't feel like the series is even going on. Who you got winning that series? Like, can Minnesota put it together? Do you think they can come back? And if not, how long it's taking OKC to end that series?

I don't know. I just, I go to a quote by a legend, a young legend, Draymond Green. And he says, "Role players do what?" They play better at home. They play better at home. So we'll see what happens when OKC steal one in Minnesota. Then that's when the series happen.

That part.

Until then, we gotta wait till game 3 to see what Minnesota is really gonna bring to the table. But you know, you look at that 13, you know, the big blowout, then they lost last night by like 13, 14 or whatnot. Can the role players be 13, 15, 16 points better? Can Anthony Edwards be 10 points better? Julius Randle, right? So they have room for improvement, but you gotta, you gotta go serve on your home court.

You definitely gotta go home. They gotta get some home cooking. You need Dante to play better. You're gonna need Nas Reid to be better, right? Like to your point of the role players and I think Minnesota's getting a little caught up in the whole Shai foul bait conversation because I can see some of their reactions to Shai when he get fouled, right? Like Ant-Man throwing the ball at him in game 1, Jaden McDaniels just pushing you down in game 2. I love Jaden McDaniels' answer. He stood on, he said, I just, I just wanted to foul him. Like, and he ended up getting a flag on 1 for it. But to me,— that looked like frustration.

Mm-hmm.

And OKC can possibly be feeding on that. So, you know, I think, you know, we need to see them guys regather, you know, recalibrate, get home, gather themselves, you know, make a couple adjustments. But the number one adjustment gonna be like the stars gotta play better. Like Julius had a really good game 1, and I think starting, they had 20 at halftime, and then he didn't touch the ball the first 9 minutes of the second half. And it changed everything. So you gonna need those guys to be great. But in saying that, OKC look like they gonna be too much for these boys. They rolling. We'll see, man. But we gonna get outta here. We'll be back. We'll talk more about these Conference Finals as they go. We'll see if Minnesota able to make it a series. And if your Knicks take, if they can bounce back. Till next time, that's a wrap from the Draymond Green Show with my brother, Baron Davis.

Yeah.

Peace.