Two NBA Champs, One Honest Conversation | The Richard Show with Draymond Green

In this episode of The Richard Show, former NBA champion and four‑time winner Draymond Green sits down with former teammate and host Richard Jefferson for a candid, humor‑filled interview. The conversation opens with playful banter about Green’s early career, including his first NBA basket that earned a taunting technical and the financial hardships he faced as a rookie. The hosts then move into a rapid‑fire “Icebreakers” segment where Green reveals his favorite emoji, music preferences (Jay‑Z, Chris Brown, Drake, Kendrick), and nostalgic Bay Area references. They discuss the Warriors’ championship runs, Green’s reputation as a frequent technical‑foul recipient (18 ejections, 5 suspensions), and his role in the team’s dynamics, especially after Kevin Durant’s arrival. The dialogue shifts to Green’s own podcast, his critique of “old media” versus “new media,” and his belief that modern basketball is becoming a “rich kid’s game” due to increased reliance on trainers. Throughout, Green balances self‑deprecating humor with reflections on his legacy, describing himself as a disruptive force that blends chaos and discipline. The episode concludes with a light‑hearted “That’s a Foul” game and a hypothetical billboard message for the Bay Bridge, where Green declares he’d “do it my way.”
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Can you at least tell America that I reach out to you every once in a while? I'm like, "Dray, come on, my guy. You're too important." You do. Okay, so America, I apologize for all, but I've also tried to keep him—
Yeah.
Somewhat.
Unfortunately, you had already ruined it.
I'd already ruined it.
All right. Richard! Richard! Richard!
Our next guest might be the only man who could start a fight, mediate it, and podcast about it before halftime. Stop laughing. 4-time champion, Olympic gold medalist, podcaster, and part-time philosopher of what he calls the new media.
Well, number one, I won 2 gold medals.
Did we count both of them?
Yeah. Fuck right.
Can I have one?
Can I have one? Can I have one, bro? Draymond Green trying to make the Hall of Fame, bro.
He's trying. You're almost there. Just, can I get through my intro?
Sorry.
He's the heartbeat and the occasional heartburn of the Golden State Warriors.
Fucked up. Wow. It's your fault. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Draymond Green.
Is it messed up 'cause it's accurate?
All good jokes are a little bit of a trash can. Just a tad.
You wanna roll the first clip of what I said? No, no, Draymond's first basket, ladies and gentlemen. We're gonna jump in here real quickly. We're talking about your first basket ever.
Boom!
And then this happened. And he gets a taunting technical after he makes the shot. You got a taunting technical after your first NBA bucket. If that is not a look into the future, what happened there?
What happened there is you ruined me after that fucking play. How about that? You know what? I had 2 technical fouls in college, maybe 5.
I had 2, maybe 5? How are we doing this math? Is that the Michigan State math?
You went to Arizona, bro. Our school ain't like that much better.
But we did beat y'all twice while I was there.
After that basket, I was crushed because if you remember, it cost me $2,000 and I hadn't got my first check yet. And all I had was my $31,000 advance that I had to buy furniture with. And I had to rent a car 'cause I couldn't afford a car. And you told me— wait, wait, wait.
To Jefferson.
Yeah. Y'all did have RJ, OK. When you look at my demeanor on the basketball court, When I first came into the league, like, I was me, but I'm like, "Man, I can't get texts.
I can't do this." And RJ was like, "Yes, you can." America, this is my official apology for what we have witnessed in all the championships and Defensive Player of the Years and technicals and suspensions and ejections. I apologize. It is my fault. I created Draymond Green, and I am responsible for all of his success, knowing that in 2012, everything I told him would help me win a championship in 2006.
That is so fucked up.
See, it's the early game. You gotta play, you gotta slow walk it, right? It's like, oh listen, this is how we gonna get 'em.
You also cost me a Finals MVP.
We're gonna get to that later. We're gonna start off. We're finally starting the show. It's called Icebreakers. Are you ready?
Let's go.
All right, all right, Icebreakers. Let me see. All right, what's your favorite emoji?
My favorite emoji is that little smile that do this.
The little smirk?
Yeah, sideways.
Sideways, like, yeah, okay, that's fair. What's your favorite go-to karaoke song?
Anything Jay-Z.
If you could take 3 artists' music for the rest of your life, who would they be?
Jay-Z.
Okay, we already got that.
Chris Brown.
Okay. It's supposed to be quick hitters.
Oh, fuck, you right.
Yeah.
Drake.
Drake, okay. Okay, so you're not a Kendrick guy?
Nah, I'm actually a big Kendrick fan, but you said the rest of my life. I need like someone that touches like every mood I could possibly be in.
Okay.
You know?
Okay. Touches every mood.
I like Kendrick music too. It ain't my beef. I ain't—
I know where you're going with that.
I don't get in no other man's beef.
All right. Start, bench, cut. Okay. All-time Bay Area runs. 2017 Warriors. Run TMC. Or the original cast of Full House?
You know the answer to that question. Dubs.
Okay.
Full House. Love Run TMC.
Okay.
Absolutely love those guys.
Oh, we're cutting Run TMC?
They won absolutely nothing. I love them too. Oh man, I love those guys.
Oh no, legends.
Absolute legends.
No, like 3 Hall of Famers.
Money's my guy.
Yeah. Full House had a hell of a run.
Full House was fresh.
Full House had a hell of a run.
You can vouch for the team.
For what?
They gotta be the best.
The '17?
Yeah.
You guys were probably, I would probably say the second or third best team I ever played for.
How bad did y'all shit yourselves when KD came? Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo!
Probably as bad as you shit yourself when we won and you had to go get 'em. Segment 2, the game. Nicknames and acting. This, I don't want this segment. We don't want that. But I act.
What? But I'm an actor.
You really?
Did you not just see me on "St. Dennis"?
What's "St. Dennis"?
It's a TV show on NBC.
No, no, no, I work for—
You ever seen "The Office"?
I have seen "The Office." Actually, Craig T. Robinson sang the intro for this.
It's like that, but it's in a like hospital, it's like medical.
Did you send somebody to the hospital? How'd you get in?
I got struck by lightning. So God finally got you back.
That's not funny.
God finally said enough is enough.
You recently said basketball is no longer a poor man's game. It's a rich kid's game.
That is fact. Draymond Green discusses how the next generation are relying more on basketball trainers instead of just playing the game. And I agree with that. I didn't learn how to do a proper individual workout till I got to college. Oh wow. What the fuck is that? What?
Stay with me here. I'm sweating. What the hell, Emma?
What the fuck is that about?
Okay, can you get back to the video? That was it. That was all?
That was it?
Okay. Oh, what? What you said is what?
My jump shot went to hell the moment that meme came out.
What meme are you talking about?
I mean that thing.
What thing? What meme? Can we show that meme? What?
I'm sorry.
What meme are you referencing?
The moment that shit— remember I used to shoot that shit.
I know you did. That's why I understood when you stopped shooting is when KD showed up. 'Cause you were like, yo, I'm just gonna swing it around and pass.
For sure.
Do you think you look like you shoot with a backpack on?
No, but have you ever heard the old saying, you use it or you lose it?
Yes.
Yeah?
Yeah, you lost it. All right, you've been ejected 18 times, suspended 5, and find almost $1 million?
I've been findin' more than $1 million.
Those are rookie numbers in this racket. I need you to up those numbers.
I've been findin' way more than $1 million.
So we're counting the suspension games and how much you missed in those games, right? Not what you're losing—
Oh, no, no, no, not the games.
Not the games.
Not a game. Not a game.
What do you remember about the Christmas Day game in 2016?
Oh, man.
Do you think I fouled Kevin Durant at the end of the play?
Yeah.
That's when Kyrie hit you. That's when I was the best player on the court. It's when I dunked on Klay, Kevin Durant.
Is that the game you dunked on Klay?
And Kevin, and Kevin.
You both of them?
Yeah, I got Kevin with the left, Klay with the right.
You did?
I remember being the best player on the court. How many times this season do you think Steve Kerr has wanted to quit?
We haven't gotten into it this year.
Oh really? Is this a record number?
No, we've been going strong now last year.
Oh, you guys went to some couples counseling?
We just figured it out. So how many years did it take? I learned to shut the fuck up. How many years did it take? We got a thing now, one of our assistant coaches, we got, it's called take a walk.
Yeah.
We take a walk.
Did you take a walk?
No, I just— Now sit down.
I'm so proud of you. All right, we have a new segment. We have a game here.
What? Why you got your chest hairs up?
Why are you looking there, bro? This my swag. No? You think I should go one more button down? Up.
Up?
We have a game called That's a Foul, specifically for Draymond Green. You're gonna tell us if this is a personal foul or if this is a flagrant foul.
Okay.
Not putting the shopping cart back.
That's a flagrant foul.
That's flagrant. That's foul. That's foul.
But I got plenty flagrant.
Talking on speakerphone in public.
And loud. Oh, it's a flagrant foul.
Okay. Playing for the Lakers.
Personal foul.
Yeah, you keeping your options open? Someone grabbing your leg and you trying to get them off them.
Apparently it's a flagrant. Apparently it's a suspension.
Flagrant 2.
Suspension, flagrant 2.
You've named your show after mine. You have the Draymond Green Show. This is the Richard Show. Another thing that you can thank me for, you know, doing the in-season podcast. Absolutely. Tell me what you love most about it and give me an explanation of your view of the new media.
So my podcast, whoo, I go off. That to me is very fun. I also love that everybody gets so upset.
So upset.
Oh my God.
They're so upset.
Could you imagine if they really had to deal with me?
No, no, I have. You were ready to fight on a plane in a card game one time.
Oh, that was you.
Do you edit anything in your podcast? Barely.
Barely? You know the interesting thing about the new media? It's not you.
Yeah, I agree.
You're like old media, but you should be new. What the new media is, is like, you old farts, you Stephen A, Skip, Perk, you old farts. Y'all don't show no love. You do.
Let's just—
No, fuck that. Y'all don't show no love. And you know, we tell the truth.
Yeah.
Y'all be making shit.
Let me push back. I can only defend myself.
True.
Perk likes to stir the pot. Very sorry, you. That is not true. He stir the pot. I only say things that I would say to a player on the bench. The problem is I say a lot of wild things to people on the bench.
My Mount Rushmore of the Draymond Green Show episodes.
Steph. Uh-huh.
Steph episode was—
Steph, we're really excited to have you on here. Wait, hold on a second. We're really excited to have you come on, Steph. We really like to hear your side of the story. You know, we go back.
I don't think Steph really fuck with you.
I don't think he does either. I had him as a shooting guard. Everyone makes it a point guard, and I love Steph.
You remember what Tim said?
What Tim say?
You were with Steph after you were you. Before he was him. Before Steph was him. That's what I'm saying. We got one for you.
This is a great line, but like Steph is literally one of my favorite players of all time. One of my favorite teammates. Top 5. —teammate I've ever— Again, Steph is one of my top 5 teammates I've ever had. Ever.
Am I in the top 5?
You are definitely top 5 people.
I can take that. I can respect that. I can respect that.
I'll tell you what, I'd go to war with you any day. I'd go to war with you any day. I'd have you on my team any single day.
Mount Rushmore is 4 people. Steph.
Good man.
The KD Show.
Okay.
Jamal Crawford.
Jamal, he's a good— he's one of the best in the new media.
Yeah. Patrick Beverley was amazing.
Draymond, we joke, we roast, but truth is you're the guy every team hates to play against and every team wishes they had.
Thank you.
Nah, I didn't write this. You're probably—
But do you agree?
Ah, I agree with this. You're basically kale. Nobody likes you, but everyone knows that you're good for them. That part I wrote. I was like, yeah. Thanks for not getting ejected mid-interview and kicking it with me. You spent your entire career balancing control and chaos and proved that order doesn't always win. Sometimes the storm does.
Oh, for sure.
Yeah. You're living proof that disruption can be discipline in disguise. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, Draymond Green.
That was amazing. Thank you.
That was so much fun. Because you are an old man and you are very close to retirement, the morning after your retirement, what billboard message would you put on the Bay Bridge? Say anything you want.
I did it my way.
Oh, let's go. He did it his way. Fair, fair. A little Frank Sinatra for you.
I did it my way.
What is a man? What has he got if not himself? He has not.
You remember that line?
Oh, I have it tattooed on me. Fuck.
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