Will Wemby impact NBA like Steph? Draymond & Baron have HEATED debate over Spurs & Warriors stars

Does Wemby have the capacity to change the game with the same impact as Steph?

Hell yeah. I mean, when, when I listen to you and how you talk about like defenses change for Steph, right?

And like coverages and a whole different style. I look at Wemby and say like, yo, this, this dude is still a kid, right? And you know, he has every opportunity different than Steph coming in, you know what I mean? To like be a superstar from the get-go. Mm-hmm.

And so Steph is iconic 'cause he is self-made. He is a self-made superstar and a self-made iconic upper echelon player and a game changer. Wimby came in the game as a game changer, you know what I mean? And so I think from an impact perspective, you're not, one, he's a rarity, you know what I mean? Yeah. And so there could be, as it has already become a trend of highly skilled, big guys. You know what I mean? Like we seen Joker and was like, damn dude, like a point center, that's crazy. Now you see a Wemby and it's like a 7'6 shooting guard. You know what I mean? And you saw KD and it was like, damn, a 7-foot shooting guard. You know what I mean? And so like this dude is, he got a little KD, you know what I mean? He learning how to be a little Giannis this year. You know what I mean? He's just, he's, he's just looks like a sponge that's having the best time out there. You know what I mean? And he ain't afraid to go for the greatest, you know what I mean? The greatest title, the great, you know what I mean? The greatest thing. So that's my thought.

I think hell no, there's a 0% chance Wemby's impact can be the same or even remotely close to Steph. And here's why. Wemby is as special of a player as we've seen coming probably and possibly in the history of the NBA. And that's why he can't have the impact because you just can't be 7'6" or 7'5" or whatever. And be relatable. Tall he is. Like nobody's just gonna be 7'6" and wanna do, and like wanna do what Wemby do. One of the reasons Steph has had such a large impact on the game that he had is because he looked like he everybody's size. And so, for sure, because he looked like he everybody's size, everybody think, I can be Steph.

I can do this.

Yes. Regardless of how athletic I am, I can learn to shoot the ball. And if I could shoot the lights out the ball and I can run all day, I, and I can work on my handle, I can be Steph. The reality is Where they failed to realize is no, you can't. Because his shot is like God-given with a God-given work ethic that tops, is topped by maybe 2 people ever. Like, so—

You know what I mean?

You know, his ball handling, like Steph has an uncanny ability with his hands in general. Like we go bowling, he gonna bowl 200. Even if he ain't bowling in 5 years, if we go golf, y'all obviously all know he's great at that. If we go to the batting cages, he's gonna hit home runs. If we go to a ping pong tournament, he gonna be at the final table. Like he has this uncanny ability with his hands and his hand-eye coordination, which is another thing. And so again, like yes, you can practice these things. Once somebody wants to ask me like, yo, why you don't shoot with the same arc as Steph? I said, what? Why you don't shoot with the same arc as Steph? So why would you ask me that? Like, do you think I wouldn't want to shoot with the same arc as Steph? Yeah. Like, do you think it's that simple to shoot with that type of arc every time you shoot the ball? Do you know what goes into a jump shot? Do you know how every part of your body gotta be on one accord at the same time to get that rhythm every time. Do you know how hard it is to master a shot to where it looked the same every time? I said, so I don't even understand why you asked me that. Nonetheless, I said all of that to say no. Like, so I, I just don't think— because people aren't going to see Wimby and be like, oh, I can be that.

Like, no, but I don't, I don't— I— that, no. But I gotta challenge you on this because Wemby comes from the Steph tree, right? So shooting threes. Yeah.

Right?

For sure. Handle. And what makes him different is he's the actual first player you've ever seen in your life that was created on 2K. You thought KD. You thought KD. Yeah, we came with Wemby. Right, so like the kids is like charging up they 2K characters to be set. Like this was stuff we would do when we would do our MyPlayer. Oh yeah, I want my dude 7'6" with a handle, could dunk, block shots, you know? And now it's like, oh shit, it's a real, it's a real like 2K MyPlayer. Like in the NBA. You feel what I'm saying?

Listen, I, I can agree with that, BD.

And so tracking, tracking his stats because of this era, this era is based on, you know, stats and analytics and his pace. He's on pace to transcend a lot of categories from if he stays healthy and have the longevity and you know, career and if they can build around him. But individually from like getting off, getting off the blocks, like bro, he, he on pace to like be a game changer.

I think, I think all of that is, I think I agree with all of that and all of those things are true. But like right now he kind of the center, but he kind of the 2.

Yeah.

And I just think like, Even if you look at KD's game, KD, when he, when KD came into the league, KD was a 2. He was a shooting guard when he came into the league in Seattle. He was the starting shooting guard. As KD career went on, he became a 3, then he became a 4, and nobody gonna wanna admit it, but KD had his most dominant and most successful years at the 3 and 4.

Mm-hmm.

Right? And it's not a knock to KD that he had his most successful years at the 3 and 4. What happened was it allowed everybody else to form their roles once he moved to those positions.

Mm-hmm.

And with Wimby, where Wimby is going to, where I don't think it's gonna happen is, How long can he play that way and not win at a high level? Like, and not— they're winning more this year, but in order to win at a high level, meaning in the playoffs, as you know, you need everybody to be clicking on all cylinders. That's right. Like, you need everybody to be filling their role when you're trying to win at a high level. And so for Wemby, I think at some point, he's going to have to learn when to move out of the way. And I can't just trail into this 3, or I can't just come down. Like right now, Wemby's also— and no one really talks about this— Wemby's benefiting right now off of his naiveness, you know.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

He's benefiting off of not knowing how to play basketball right now and just playing off of sheer talent. And sureability. Right now that's cool because he in year 2. No one's accepting that in year 6. And so then you're in year 6.

Yeah, but he got—

No one's accepting you doing that in year 6.

He got 4 years to— he got— look what he doing in year 2.

That's fine, so it's just gonna be—

Look what he doing in year 2.

That's fine, but it's just gonna be—

Next year, next year he gonna put up even better numbers. And that's fine.

And next year he gonna put— But if they don't win, if they don't win, then it's gonna become—

That's the part of the game.

When they— if they don't win because everybody else can't really fill their roles the way them roles need to be filled, and they don't win, then people gonna start attacking you for doing that. And then it's an issue that you're doing that. And, and a whole other thing comes with it. It ain't just like, oh, you just get to play as long as you can and figure it out. No, that pressure start to mount. You supposed to be that dude. Oh, you ain't won it yet. Oh, now you trying to figure that out. So then it becomes less about Oh my God, look how he just came across half court. And in his mind it's gonna become, so I have to do what I gotta do to win. And that may mean I need to slide to this block a little more. I just don't see it happening.

I do. And here's my thesis.

He gonna be as special as they come, but I don't see it happening.

Here's my thesis around this.

I got Wimby on my team. I better hurry up and figure out a role if I wanna stay around.

That's fine.

You know what I mean?

Draymond Green gonna be saying the opposite. Yeah, but, but, but it, it, yeah, he got a league, but it's also, it take a team. So, but somebody else gotta step up, right? And somebody, or, or they gotta go build a team around him to build winners and build a winning system. 'Cause San Antonio gotta win an ecosystem. They gotta go get, they gotta go, those dudes in San Antonio, Right now, like the problem with Wemby is he don't have a Ja Morant type of personality. You know what I mean? And he don't—

Oh, nah, he got Chris Paul.

Yeah, but Chris Paul is not a young dude that's ready to bark up your chest. You know what I mean? Like San Antonio, they ain't barking at y'all. They just out there playing basketball. But San Antonio never gonna be that.

And they not gonna bring in a guy that's like that. That's not their culture.

San Antonio was cocky. Arrogant, you know what I mean?

Yeah, but it was quiet arrogance though. They weren't just barking up the chimney.

No, they never talked.

Draymond Green up the chimney.

They wasn't on that. Nah, but they had, they had a, it was, it was, they had a championship pedigree.

Yeah, arrogance.

You feel what I'm saying? Championship arrogance about 'em for sure. Yeah, like y'all not gonna beat us. Y'all not smart enough. You know what I mean? Like, haha, y'all winning right now. We gonna walk y'all down. They had all, Yes. All of that ism.

1000%.

That is, right? Or Detroit Pistons, or like with these young dudes now, they got like a little fight. Like, hold on, Draymond, you ain't gonna punk us. You feel what I'm saying? What I'm saying for San Antonio is they don't have no young dudes yet that I seen, not even Wimby, you know what I mean? Or somebody to ride with Wimby to be like, hold on, bro. Like we barking up y'all tree too. We on our way back, you know what I mean? And so right now it's just like, okay, we showcasing talent to your point. But I think for him, because he's so naive and he's watching everybody, bro, you know what I mean? He's a sponge in the game. He's going to push himself to win. That's the only way that he's going to exist as a phenomenon. And I think he actually has the personality. Yeah. And the game to want that. You feel what I'm saying? For sure. So like, but they gotta get some dogs around them, and they gotta start standing up for they self. 'Cause if you relying on Chris Paul to do that, like Chris Paul is supposed to be the dude that calm y'all down and make sure y'all playing basketball. Y'all should be doing everything else, you know what I mean? And just playing off of sheer force. Sheer energy, you know what I mean? And like trying to be somebody, everybody trying to claim a name as something and not going off a highlight or a good game or some shit like that. You feel what I'm saying?

Oh yeah, I feel it. And you can see that they don't have that. You know why?

They don't.

Because Russ is standing there doing wimpy like this. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Russ a wild dude. He's sitting there. He said, "Hey, don't touch my hair." Russ say, "What you gonna do?" "Man, come on, dude." Like, you know what I mean?

Like, right, right. And then, you know, it's like, ain't a vet over there. And you know what I mean? Like, Chris Paul can tell him, hey, you know, Chris Paul gonna give him the ism. "Hey, bro, don't ever let nobody sign you like that." You feel what I'm saying? Like, I don't give a shit. So he gotta develop a meanness.

Yes.

Right? He's gotta be me. Right now he just talent. Having fun, naive. But soon, like, soon as it click and it's like, oh, I gotta be a cold assassin, a killer. I gotta be thinking about every aspect of the game. So then I'm the show, not just like, oh, I'm going to the guard, I'm gonna put up 40 and, you know, if we win, we win. If we don't, it's like, nah, you gotta go now become, I mean, Giannis did it, you know what I mean? Yes, he did. Giannis did it and I think, you know, this kid got talent too to do it.

JT did it.

Yeah.

JT did it where he came in, he was young, talented, battled with Bron in the conference finals, right? But like didn't quite have it, couldn't get over the hump.

Yeah.

Couple more times, couldn't get over Jimmy Butler, right? Then he played us, couldn't get over the hump.

Yep, yep.

He developed that, right? But you have to develop that. You have to.

You have to. Yeah. You have to, you got, you like, and for him, he, as a young dude, he had a lot of success early.

Yes, he did.

But like to keep, you know what I mean? He keep knocking at the door. He may not be saying nothing, but like now when you look at him, you know what I mean? It's like, there's some fire there. You know what I mean? Because he want it so bad, bro. He want it so bad. And now they won the championship. He know what that feel like. It's a different level to his game this year where he like, I'm a finisher, I'm a closer. You know what I mean? Like now they starting to sync up. And so I think Wemby, he is sponge. He got, you know what I mean? He gotta absorb that.

Yes he is.

And so he can be the personality that the San Antonio Spurs never was.

Yes.

You know what I mean?

I agree.

So he has the freedom to do that.

Yeah.

Right? And with a little bit of meanness with his personality, takes San Antonio and now it's like, okay, now, you know, it's a wild, wild west. And you know, Wimby is whatever nickname people gonna give him that don't sound like Wimby. You know what I mean?

Yeah, for sure. Listen, I agree with you 100%. I think Wimby does have, that level of talent. I think he has that aura around him that people can, you know, feed off of and that can become a larger than life personality, which he already is larger than life. I think he has all of that. I just go back to the original question of can he change the game like Steph? And I still stand by my answer. The reason I think no is because in order for him to eventually win, He's not gonna be as able to play as random. And then you just become, if you're not able to play as random as he is right now, you become one of the most special players we've ever seen. But as far as changing the game, we can't change the B-Wimby. Like we, we can't.

No, but he can change the game as far as, all right, ain't gonna be no little dudes running around here shooting threes. You gonna have to stock up. On some 7-footers. Like, if he developed that trait, you stock up on 7-footers. Now people are drafting different because they like, well, shit, we got 6 fouls and Wemby fouling people. You know what I mean? He fouling people out. He playing in the block.

In order for him to do that though, he gonna have to get put on more weight because right now, like for instance, Russ was guarding him in that game. It's no knock to Wimby. It's just that Russ gonna get underneath you. He gonna get physical. He's stronger than you already for sure. And so he like—

He gotta learn.

But no, but what I'm saying is in order to do what you're saying also, he gonna have to get way stronger because if you're saying that he's gonna make you have to go draft more 7-footers that can shoot, that's not necessarily gonna be the case if you can guard him with a 6'6" guy because they're gonna try to be physical and get underneath him. You see what I'm saying?

So—

Right.

Gotta get stronger so that you then have to put a 7-footer on me because the 6-foot guy can't do nothing. So it now has to be a 7-footer. And the only way he can match me is if he can shoot the 3-ball as well. Then that starts to take form. Hey, when, because— It's just a lot of things that gotta happen.

When they call me, I give you that post. I give you a whole little post. "Post package, you'll never have to worry about a little dude standing you up in the post, man. Call 1-800-BART-O-MILL. I got you, man." You know what I mean? That's all he need. Once he get, once he learn how to take it, like he don't even know he's 7'6", bro. You know what I mean? Like he don't know he's 7'6" in the NBA. Yeah. Talented, he's young, he's enthusiastic. But once he start figuring out, wait, hold on, bro, I'm this close to the basket, I ain't even gotta jump. I'm blocking everything, getting every rebound, every putback. Okay, this is how I'm gonna get my 40, 20, and 12.

Mm-hmm, no doubt, no doubt.

And then I'm gonna shoot my threes and all that to show like, okay, you know, this is outta flow. But man, I'm gonna lead the— when he decide he wants to lead the league in points in the paint, I think he can do it.

Mm-hmm.