Narratives of Everything: Pilot Wave Episodes

But, uh, to be maximally recursive here, uh, Brett, where can I like test out where I'm looking for your StreamYard? What do I look around for across all the— I'll just look at them all. Yep, I got this. Yeah, yeah, Victor, please carry on. Oh, I think Victor's connection just kind of went sideways, but he'll come back to us. Carrie, how are you today? I missed that introductory part, by the way. You're still on mute, my friend.

Yeah, no, I'm good. I'm just busy, and so I only have till noon, but it's all good. I mean, it's good. I'm good.

You?

Yeah, better today for sure, at least in flow. Again, we're all talking about navigating flow, and you have a music background too, is what I'm understanding, or at least a production background. Uh, you don't have to tell your whole story.

No, no, I'm not going to. I'm trying to figure that out. No, I mean, I've made a bunch of music videos and stuff, and I have ties to it. I had a little record label way back in the day, but I never produced any music. So I've been involved in a lot of music stuff, mostly the video side, but even shooting in while there's music production going on. Yeah.

I—

like I told Victor, I, I know how to do some of this stuff, but I just don't do it because I don't like the technical aspects of it. But some of that stuff, like the Timecode is— yeah, just makes— it just makes workflow easier, you know. That's the whole thing, because you can timecode it out and then you just pull that piece out. But whatever, we will—

it'll all work.

Yeah, it'll figure There was some overlap, yeah.

Cool. All right, there's actually several here that I really liked. Can I, can I like see that and add this? I can. Cool, that's better.

I can hear you, sir.

So you can turn down the audio on this if you want to, so it doesn't bother you.

Hyper-individualism, which is where consumerism is coming from. But the universal doesn't— any true structure according to this universal logic stuff that we follow has to have 3 moments in it. the universal, the particular, and the individual. And right now it seems like in one sense we have a lot of hyper-individualism, which is where consumerism is coming from, but the universal doesn't respect that properly. So you got like the worst of the universal and the worst of the individual. It's spiraling out of control.

I hate to speak.

So I thought, well, how do you make a global structure that doesn't do that? It protects the individual but doesn't lead to this hyper-consumerism. consumerism, it leads to this sort of spirit, community belonging, which is the real value— having experiences together. Which is what this room is about, Victor. You're bringing us together right now. And then we're supposed to create ideas, because ideas are what create this sort of novelty of life. And you're supposed to make that a quality of life thing. And, and so I thought, well, if you don't go global, you're— somebody will come in and do it anyway. And I thought, okay, Cooperated us like they're using AI. But being in you know for like forty years, firm by the people we make a long story on marginalized community. Oh, you're part of this poverty in Canada.

Am I?

So my friends are all indigenous and you know marginalized communities and solution. They're like you're then Hawaii. What's this?

Holo Holo rideshare.

Um, we use their.

And do it anywhere earlier.

And I thought, okay, you're welcome. Well, thanks for inviting us.

Ideology or power structure from— yeah, to prevent any one ideology or power structure.

Yeah, which is kind of a paradox, right? Going in the wrong class, seeing the individual, this universal, the universal, and a lot of hyper, um, worst. Well, how do you do it, right? Has to be there. Like they're using AI to map and predict. You can't escape. The unions have been eroding, and I can't add them because system.

You can turn down the volume on my screen.

I was born in poverty. Kids, no solution. But you have right now.

But it was, it was. Share is like the core Uber, and that's because make our own app small, and and you know there's there's enough solidarity there, and it's. small enough that they were able to work together to make it happen. I think it's still owned by only one, one or a few people in Hawaii, but since its purpose was there for— and it did do very well— segmented and spread out and hyper-individualized and afraid to ask for help in larger groups, which is why that doesn't work. So that's why the, the solution is it has to be like Like the village marketplace can't be just for everybody. It has to be just for one segment of the population. And because otherwise we're not gonna be able to work together because our perspectives are too different, which you really articulated there. But I didn't know if you knew about Holo Holo, that it's sort of, there's a precedent and it's been done.

Wow.

In these groups, or like get, what we ended up saying is, well, can't you? So we said, well, it has to be a global— you have to make these Hawaiian one big conglomerates in the global thing. We need to sort of do this octopus movement.

I'm in their Facebook group, but I don't really know anyone from, from there.

Um, might be what the point of this is, because inviting them into this bigger project because the perspective is just the Canadian— all guarantee the people on the local— that guaranteeing that, like, represent missing, right?

Time coding sucks.

And I really do feel like the money is a problem. Some perspectives aren't helpful, like some people to heal that.

Victor, that's, that's why I was bringing up the whole idea of time coding.

You know, but yeah, compassionate person, which is everything.

Break it down.

Traumatized childhood, even in healing. Okay, so there is even in healing, um, people who— I had a really traumatized childhood, poverty, like in a very, very mixed neighborhood. And that I attribute that to me being able to see and empathize with multiple perspectives. Because I also have, I have a cousin who's private jet rich.

Wow.

On the other hand.

Breaker's heart.

And so I, you know, I can actually empathize believe it or not, with people like Elon Musk. And most of the people I'm around can't believe—

is that better?

They just don't have that perspective. So what I've seen is the importance of healing coming from your direct people who most directly align with you, whether they're healthy.

I, I don't know how that works over what Victor's doing, but I can. Yeah.

No, you can switch between them. Oh, I'm looking at the wrong damn one. That's what's going on.

Yeah, let's see what happens.

Okay, awesome. All right, cool. I can't hear anything now.

Well, I haven't gone there yet. Hold on. No, I have not yet. I will in a heartbeat.

Okay, yeah, um, I, I, okay, I think that was actually everything from this one. Oops.

All right, here we go. Can you see this now, Brett?

So global cooperative.

I can just press play and it plays, right? I can turn my mic off and it's fine, Victor?

Uh, you know, I think you need to keep your mic on.

Sure.

Okay.

According to this universal logic stuff that we've Follow a lot of hyper-individualism, individuals going in the— yeah, which is kind of a paradox, right? Because it could go really well, or expecting individualism, belonging, national justice, and, you know, poverty eradication. And then when we—

places can't be just for everybody, it has to be just for one segment of the—

This is why I asked about the mic, so I don't think it's good.

Um, that it's sort of— there's a precedent, it's been done.

Ended up saying is, well, I can't— also one in Canada that's kind of budding, but it's really about prediction, divergent kind of community.

Oh yeah, yeah, I've heard of that.

Do you know about it? That might be what the point of this is, is maybe I'm supposed to connect your crew with his grassroots, would make destructive other people, you know, tidal reset people who—

I had a really traumatized childhood, um, Recover that to me being able to see and empathize with multiple rich and actually empathize, believe it. So what I've seen is the importance of healing coming forward. Have you heard of the—

I'm not seeing the share sound, sir.

So the whole, the whole thing is right now you have the most opportunity in history To get attention on you, and people have seen there are universal patterns. There are universal tools to the way people work.

Attention on you. I know that I saw that one.

Okay, you ready?

Ah, totally like just.

Your timestamp is 114, Brett.

Regardless, on you and to get attention on you. Most opportunities— you have the most opport— um, you have the most opportunity in human history.

Now, these experiments started not on tape recorders but on paper. In 1959, Brian Guison said that writing is 50 years behind painting and applied the montage technique to words on a page. And this technique had already been used in painting at that time for 50 years, was in fact kind of old hat in painting. Brian copied out phrases from newspapers and magazines, then took his scissors and cut these selections into pieces and rearranged the fragments at random. And these cut-up experiments appeared in Minutes to Go in 1959. When you experiment with cut-ups over a period of time, you find that some of the cut-ups and rearranged texts seem to refer to future events. I cut up an article written by John Paul Getty and got It's a bad thing to sue your— and a year later, one of his sons did sue it. We had no explanation for this at the time, just suggesting to the press, when you cut into the present, the future leaks out.

For themselves.

But we simply accepted it and continued the experiments.

So there's that.

The next step was cut-ups on the tape recorder, and Brian was the first to take this obvious step. Now here are some tapes which Brian made with all the technical facilities of the BBC in London, and they show, I think, what can be done with a human voice and one phrase.

All active calling all reactive agents. Calling all active agents re. Calling all active agents re. Calling all active reagents calling all agents reactive. Calling all reagents active. All agents active. Calling all agents reactive calling. Calling reall active agents.

Calling reall agents active.

Calling reagents active. All calling reactive. All agents calling all reactive agents. Calling active all reagents. Calling agents all reactive. Calling agents. All agents calling, calling, calling, calling, calling. We all calling active agents. We all active agents calling. We all agents active calling. We all calling active agents. Agents calling all reactive. Agents calling. We all active. Agents calling active, all 3. Agents calling all active 3. Agents calling reactive, all agents calling active, we all—

This is B-4.

Reactive agents all calling. Reactive agents all calling. Reactive calling agents all. Recalling all active agents. Recalling.

It's pretty dope, dude.

Which is what Buckminster Fuller called the Bucky, you know. Yeah, he calls that process— we need to ephemeralize. Oh, awesome, thank you for the recommendation. I'll check him out. I just debated a Hegelian, uh, 2 days ago. So yeah, he calls that— which is what Buckminster Fuller called the Bucky, you know. In a bad way, but you're growing more in the good way. That's called ephemeralization. And do it wisely is we have to have growth and degrowth at the same time. And so I thought, well, how do you go from complex to simple without losing— And so I thought, well, how do you go from complex to simple without losing the efficaciousness? Like when you said the degrowth, right? Really what degrowth means, if we're going to do it wisely, is we have to have growth and degrowth at the same time. Another contradiction. Well, there's a word for that. If you do more with less, right, you're growing less in the bad way, but you're growing more in the good way. That's called ephemeralization, which is what Buckminster Fuller called the Bucky, you know.

Fuller!

Yeah, he calls that process— we need to ephemeralize.

The neurodivergent community is doing this. You have the most opportunity in human history to get attention on you. And people have seen that there are universal patterns, there are universal tools to the way people work regardless of their perspective, right?

Yeah.

And so the thing that they have found that has worked is to solve a problem for themselves, productize that problem, and consistently, consistently show up and tell people about it on social media. I think I'm trying to take that essentially and make a community brand.

And so I thought, well, how do you go from complex to simple without I can take that for a second.

You know, it's really funny that Burroughs kind of had this already in his, you know, cognizance at that point in time because he was actually— at a disadvantage from where we're at now, or maybe not, I don't know. Uh, but I feel like we have better access and, and better, um, you know, we just have better access or more pervasive access, let's say. Um, no, I, again, I want to reiterate what Brett said, like, um, it's very important that if you Are resonating with kind of a, I don't know, as I would say, a panarchy or whatever. But this is a high-level conversation. Oh, here we go. It's about to get very recursive. But yeah, this is a high-level conversation in terms of, so let's say Brett's asking how that video calls to me. That video calls to me especially in the second half because we're doing it right now. I mean, our future selves might be involved, you know, other kind of amalgamations.

I was doing all this stuff.

And I know that, uh, maybe I'm— I hope I'm not pandering, but sorry, sorry, I will yield to myself or to Brett or Bobby talking about myself, but you know what I'm talking about.

I was doing all this stuff that I considered magic. Like, you know, people have like chaos magic and stuff like that. I was calling it causal magic because it's like mechanistic magic. I was kind of trying to emphasize Magic, but also so it's like scientific. But creating my space, designing my niche. So there's like a theory, you know, niche construction is idea like beavers build dams and, you know, we construct our—

We sparkle here. Thanks very much.

Where you design your space to be maximally, like, supportive for your creative or productive endeavors. Absolutely insane. What we need to do is explain this new worldview with these new sciences that you map everything thing from that's adapted because all the religious practices, all the New Age stuff that's stuck around.

This is, this is going to be really interesting. Um, to be just personal again, so what's the— do you want to link me the Together Way on YouTube so I can test that out?

It's doing like— it's still having a beneficial effect, and it's time we explained that and like get like completely destroy that, that war against like science and spirituality.

Are you guys asking if it's playing live?

Yeah, yeah, hold on, hold on. We got 2 levels. Go ahead, Gary, you can ask the question. We got now 2 levels of recursion, but please.

Are you asking if if on Brett's YouTube it's we're streaming live? We are. I've been following.

Yeah, okay. So I've got I've got the YouTube up. I've got the Facebook up. Victor's clipping in real time or cutting up in real time. And what was the last one you wanted us to check, Brett?

As the road to Omega is like it's like fucking like Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy just met fucking like Tesla and had a baby with Gandhi and Richard Branson. And then fucking had sex with Mother Teresa and Marie Curie, and then they fucking made a movie about it.

It's like peak, peak recursion, hyperplexity.

Yeah, there we go.

I think from— that's adapted because all the religious practices, all the New Age stuff that's stuck around, most of it's adaptive.

He dressed up for today, right?

It's doing like— it's still having a beneficial effect, and that it's not like a waste of time to have like a room with lots of books. I was doing all this stuff that I considered—

Wait, hold on, that's actually a funny one. So Terence McKenna actually did talk about peak novelty as well, Brett, right? I think that we're setting something very interesting. It's like, um, what's the avalanche metaphor or something, right? Or like, uh, you know, throw a rock and all of a sudden the mountain comes down or something. Yeah, snowball effect. Thank you. But we're, we're We're building up, we're building the snowman, we're building our pyramid, right? And by the way, I have to mention this out for posterity in case any of my friends catch this, which some of them do. I used to work in a kitchen with a bunch of guys, and kitchens, when you have a good team, or well, especially in the back of the house, but you get into flow state. Like, flow state is— that's, that's a weapons factory for flow state because there's fire and there's knives, right? So we used to call it riding the lightning. We just call it riding the lightning, literally. When— and we dance together, right? Like, I wouldn't even have to do anything but nod at someone and then they're like, you know, set me another pan or whatever it is. And it's in open kitchens especially. Sorry, go ahead, Victor. Ride the lightning, Bret. Ride the lightning.

The post, it's like, this is coming, this is coming, this is coming. Now it's time to deliver. But the only thing really that—

It's literally a dance. It's literally a dance. And it involves, you know, it's like a circus, like Busters or something, right? Like, uh, or Buskers, sorry. It's, it's literally a dance in terms of movement.

Okay, well, Victor, get them into the challenge and we're gonna stream it with your cafe. This is great.

I'm—

I don't mean I don't know what they're doing. I'm kind of making a statement that I don't see them doing anything. I don't see— I don't see anything spreading with people.

Bingo.

And to be fair, I mean You know, I'm I the road.

Well, I'll try something. Really big. I'm not as good at words as you are, but if this is the UFO or USS now UFO, if this is the UFO novelty, Victor's trying to yeah.

When you deliver on, we have to. I'm just gonna turn it was viral, but also these challenges like getting people to square off, like making this an event. Let's make it a sport. Let's make philosophy of mind. Emergence, like, and, and we need to build like characters and gimmicks around it. And, you know, like, it's okay, mate, I just turned you guys down. Feel free.

Oh, he's, he's literally augmenting us for the show. This is amazing, Victor.

30, 40, 30, 40.

That's what's—

and with, with— this is with all love. Hold on, this is with all love to Bobby as well. But literally, you, you involved yourself.

You're probably going to end up doing some version.

Yes, just do it. Just start.

All I'm saying is we're losing time. If you don't want to get under New World Spirit because It's too intense.

Hmm, you, you, you literally just embodied— you literally embodied yourself. You literally just like— I watched a Bobby-ception.

That's what's gonna happen here is for some reason people aren't vouching for me because it's really out there. So yeah, I'm the idea guy. All the stuff that I'm doing is 70,000 hours.

Bravo, sir.

I'm gonna end up doing some version of it. Just start doing it. Just do it. Just start. All I'm saying is we're losing time. If you don't want to be again under New World Spirit because it's too intense. Take it to World Omega, take it to Together, and just start doing something, guys. Get your plans down.

I just— I want to optimize it, and I believe in the power of a collective mind. The people I brought together, the real— we need to start showing that we can create stuff like this. But that is fucking awesome.

So I've got to go now, guys.

Understand, I'm checking out.

Honestly, okay, the way I—

thank you, guys. Um, you're gonna be around for a I am—

so myself, I'm here in this meeting for the next, you know, 50 minutes, and then I've got 2— like, pretty much I'm done for like the rest of the day. I'll probably be back like this, you know, this evening, like, on this. I don't know if you, if you have any I don't know if you have shit going on this evening, but like, if you feel like, you know, poking at me, like, when you, when you free up, like, after dinner, like, feel free. I'll probably be, probably be here.

Okay.

And then what's the deal? What's the thing tomorrow? Is there a—

Yeah, so like, I mean, I've got a couple of people going. Uh, y'all gotta—

right, you guys will post.

I think that's the right thing to do. But, but it's on at 1 PM Pacific. What's the—

I need any info?

Be here. Cafe.

Yep.

All right, thank you.

All right, see you guys.

Hey, good to see you.

Good to see y'all. Oh, you're seeing something in here, right? What is that?

Is that what we're doing here?

I think. And then I think that was it that he had so far, whatever. But yeah, we were, we were kind of doing some kind of in-the-moment, uh, it wasn't on purpose, by the way, Gavin. It was just totally— yeah, this is totally kind of synchronous, synchronous.

What's the download for y'all this morning?

One sec, Bret, are you able to hear me? I just wanted to drop this link to you. Is well, I'm and I'm going like the video clips, and I the last one. So, you know, that we could draw from if we want to. I haven't touched like, uh, 3 different videos, but let's, uh, let's see what, what came out of what I would just say.

Future me.

Those are the 2 clips. Yep. All right, so let's just like drop these all into a row. Where are you? There you are. And pull that one up, pull that one up. And like, that's 4 minutes. There's actually another video that I kind of liked. Let's see if I can't just drag that on in here or find it. Which one is it? Yeah, sure. Let's go ahead and do it.

Wait, what's VLC again?

It's a media player. Free. It's amazing.

Nice noise. Grimes is— oh yeah, Grimes has come up with a few dope words.

Homotechnicus or something, I think.

Hmm. Oh yeah, I did like that one. Because I dig the music.

Fuck it, dude. You should just claim that you you coined the term that you were just talking about, like fully own it.

Um, did anyone see about the? I know this is off topic, but I do want to kind of throw something in here as we're listening to some videos, whatever. But Gavin or Brett, when you brought up a So he's launching xAI to a small select group of people. I just wondered if you knew about that or had any thoughts.

I saw it. I didn't know the headline.

That's the inference and plan views.

What is it? What's the word?

xAI? What is xAI?

Are we going to get a digital twin or what? Where's my Jarvis? Where's—

Hey, we're, we're each other's Jarvises. We're each other's Jarvises. Totally.

All right, are you, uh, you ready to— what, you ready to listen?

Yeah.

Okay, I got— we've got, uh, 4, like 4 and a half minutes of clip here. All right.

I was doing all this stuff that I considered magic. Like, you know, people have like chaos magic and stuff like that. I was calling it causal magic because it's like mechanistic magic. I was kind of trying to emphasize magic, but also that this is mechanistic, so it's like scientific. But, um, creating my space, designing my niche— because so there's like, um, a theory, you know, niche construction is idea, like beavers build dams and, you know, we construct our niches. But I was using it in a way where you design your space to be maximally, like, supportive for your creative or productive endeavors. Religious practices, all the New Age stuff that's stuck around, most of it's adaptive. Even if it's not doing what they think they're doing, it's doing, like, it's still having a beneficial effect. And it's time we explain that and like get like completely destroy that war against like science and spirituality.

R-U-S-P as the Road to Omega is like, it's like fucking like Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy just met fucking like Tesla and had a baby with Gandhi and Richard Branson and then fucking had sex with Mother Teresa and Marie Curie and then they fucking made a movie about it.

It's like, okay, well, Victor, get them into the challenge and we're gonna stream it with your cafe. This is great.

I, I'm— I don't mean I don't know what they're doing. I'm kind of making a statement that I don't see them doing anything. I don't see— I don't see anything spreading with people.

Bingo.

And to be fair, I mean, you know, I'm— I— the Road to Omega Project hasn't like really been doing that because it's been a lot of talk. Like in the post, it's like, this is coming, this is coming, this is coming. Now it's time to deliver. But the only thing really that people see when you deliver on— we have to create content that goes viral, but also these challenges, like getting people to square off, like making this an event. Let's make it a sport. Let's make philosophy of mind emergence, like— and, and we need to build like characters and gimmicks around it. And, you know, like, me and Bret have already memefied a lot of all this.

Stuff.

And like, if you don't have a plan, copy me. That's what's going to happen here is for some reason people aren't vouching for me because it's really out there. So yeah, I'm the idea guy. All the stuff that I'm doing is 70,000 hours of research. You're probably gonna end up doing some version of it. Just start doing it. Just do it. Just start. All I'm saying is we're losing time. If you don't want to get under New World Spirit because it's too intense, take it to World Omega. Take it to Together and just start doing something, guys. Get your plans down.

I just, I want to optimize it, and I believe in the power of a collective mind. The people I brought together, the real— we need to start showing that we can create stuff like this, but that it's fucking awesome. So when you want to rush, I understand. I, I'm honestly like, the way I am, the way I have this theory of mind that I've developed so much, I—

You have the most opportunity in human history to get attention on you is to solve a problem for themselves, productize that problem, and consistently, consistently show up and tell people about it on social media. I'm trying to take that essentially and make a community brand.

And so I thought, well, how do you go from complex to simple without losing the efficaciousness? Like when you said the degrowth, right? Really what degrowth means, if we're going to do it wisely, is we have to have growth and degrowth at the same time. Another contradiction. Well, there's a word for that. If you do more with less, right, you're growing less in the bad way, but you're growing more in the good way. That's called ephemeralization, which is what Buckminster Fuller called the Bucky, you know.

Fuller!

Yeah, he calls that process. We need to ephemeralize.

2, 1, and I make up a point.

There's a movement happening. The Movement, capital T, capital M, is already happening.

Scientific and it's religious, it's art and it's science. It's male and it's female. It's capitalism and it's communism. It's metaphysical and it's not. It's like all of them are happening in the word spirit.

All right, so this is the clips we got so far, and we've got like, I don't know, 3 more on deck we could go through. But what are you— what are you seeing? What are you feeling?

Dude, But, uh, I, I think we should send those.

They're perfect. Although, sorry, Gavin, go ahead, then I'll raise my hand.

Sorry, I was done.

Um, no, like, uh, and Brett brought this up earlier and reminded me of that. This— so When I was, um, editing Baker's books, uh, and really at some point— I don't know if it's going to be today, guys, but we should talk about, uh, the novel too, or like Bobby's whatever, uh, not here nor there. But so I look at, uh, books and chapters and video editing very like lyrically, I suppose. Um, so I mean, I think all the clips are amazing. I think that maybe we now— I don't know, I know this is a lot of work, Victor. I don't know if it's just a suggestion, but you can find a flow in terms of like maybe something that someone's saying flows right into the next something that someone— so I don't know if we have to mix and match the— but the quips are all amazing. Yeah, go on. Sorry.

No, I hear you. And like, yeah, that's, that's the goal, man. That's, that's what we're We're— that is, that is the phase we are at, sir. So let's, uh, um, A, like, I feel like we want to get this down to like, I don't know, just a minute that fucking pops, right? I don't know if we can— I don't know if we can get down— we can, which we can totally do. So, uh, one way to go about that would be to like take the clips that we got and make sure that we just got like the fucking nugs, you know. So let's maybe start there. Yeah, so like, you know, speak up, like, if you feel like, you know, like, we'll like just land on the nugs. Yeah.

I was doing all this stuff that I considered magic. Like, you know, people have like chaos magic and stuff like that. I was calling it causal magic because it's like mechanistic magic.

I was kind of trying to emphasize By the way, like, if, if something like it doesn't sparkle, then just be like, yeah, fuck this, or whatever. Like, that's, that's totally a valid move.

Magic, but also that this is mechanistic, so it's like scientific. But, um, creating my space, designing my niche, because so there's like, um, a theory, you know, niche construction is idea, like beavers build dams and You know, we construct our niches, but I was using it in a way where you design your space to be maximally, like, supportive for your creative or productive endeavors.

That kind of resonated for me because, like, that's what we're doing here in a way, like the niche optimization. Go ahead. Yeah, exactly right.

Um, creating my space, designing my niche, because so there's like I mean, the creating my space, designing my niche, maybe.

Yeah.

Creating my space, designing my niche. So there's like a theory, you know, niche construction is the idea like beavers build dams and, you know, we construct our niches, but I was using it in a way Where you design your space to be maximally, like, supportive for your creative or productive endeavors.

Yeah.

Magic, magic, magic.

Yep.

Where you design your—

yep.

Literally everything that he was worried about.

I was doing all this stuff that I considered magic. Like, you know, people have like chaos magic and stuff like that. I was calling it causal magic because it's like mechanistic magic. I was kind of trying to emphasize magic but also that this is mechanistic, so it's like scientific.

But, um, okay, fuck it.

You guys are— yeah, go ahead, Brett.

No, we— I mean, I mean, dude, like, dude, so at one level, like, I kind of want to take that and do like clip out the magic bits and then just like intersperse them throughout the entire video. Effectively, yeah.

I was doing all this stuff that I considered magic.

You know that song? You know that song that goes like, oh, oh, oh, it's magic.

Uh-huh.

Yeah, we could just cut it with Bobby's like magic.

Considered magic.

Like drop the beat, drop the bass.

People have like chaos magic and stuff.

Stuff.

You know, people have like chaos magic and stuff. You know, people have like chaos magic and stuff. Chaos magic and stuff.

Okay, wait, wait, wait, hold on.

Stuff like that. I was calling it causal magic because it's like mechanistic magic. Causal magic because it's—

I'm right here with you. I didn't think that— in fact, I think With self-reflective self-embodiment, we're actually kind of making fun of ourselves, to be honest. That's all I was gonna add. But yeah, especially if— especially if you're right. Go ahead, Gavin. Sorry.

Even better if we're making fun of ourselves.

Whatever. Well, no, because through the recursive embodiment, and as Bret and Bobby did himself beforehand. You missed the moment, Gavin. It was really beautiful. He embodied himself. Yeah, no, it's amazing. Yeah, you got it.

I was kind of trying to emphasize magic but also Magic, but magic, but all, but also that this is mechanistic, so it's like scientific, but He he had mountains of cocaine too to help Brett. I was doing all this stuff that I considered magic.

Victor, what are you trying to figure out? I'm about to like.

I was doing all this stuff that I considered magic.

Considered magic.

Not much, my first day off work for— in a long time, so I'm stoked.

Magic.

I am gonna dream— I'm gonna dream this sentence over and over again by Bobby all night long now.

I was doing all this stuff that I considered magic Like, you know, people have like chaos magic and stuff like, you know, people have like chaos magic and stuff like that.

You know what the really sad part about that is? That I don't even have to take drugs anymore to have the synesthesia affected like that.

Or like, well, Brett and I have talked about this, but I was doing all this stuff that I considered magic. You know, people have like magic and stuff like that. I was calling it causal magic because it's like mechanistic.

Uh, boys, I do apologize. Oh, sorry, I do, I do have to dip out.

I was doing all this stuff that I considered magic. Designing my niche, you design your space to be maximally like supportive for your creative or productive endeavors, really, your space to be maximally, like, supportive, your space to be maximally supportive for your creative or productive endeavors. Religious practices, all the New Age stuff that's stuck around, most of it's adaptive. Even if it's not doing what they think they're do— it's doing, like, it's still having a beneficial effect. And it's time we explain that and like, like, completely destroy that war against like science and spirituality.

One second.

Like completely destroy that.

Okay, go ahead. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yep. Cool. Yeah, I'm into it. We can figure out how to weave that shit in. And I think that— I mean, that could look like— yeah, with you.

Uh, Okay.

Completely destroy that war against like science and spirituality.

Yep. Oh, well, hey, I'm not recording at the moment, by the way.

Maybe I should.

Maybe I should be Victor.

There he is.

Cool. For the for for that for that for that bit. Nice, nice, nice, nice. All right. I'm gonna keep jamming here because I am.

Are you as key as the road to Omega? Is like it's like fucking like Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. It's like fucking.

It's like fucking.

It's like fucking.

It's like fucking like hitchhiking.

People who don't people who don't curse fucking suck.

It's like fucking like.

Me too, dude.

Yeah, it's like fucking like Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy just met fucking like Tesla and had a baby with Gandhi and Richard Branson and then fucking had sex with Mother Teresa and Marie Curie and then they fucking made a movie about it.

It's like, okay, well, Victor. Okay, well, Victor, get them into the challenge and we're gonna stream it with your cafe. This is great.

I'm—

I don't mean I don't know what they're doing. I'm kind of making a statement that I don't see them doing anything. I don't see— I don't see anything spreading with people.

Bing.

Okay, well, I mean Basically, we just have to listen to Gavin, and Gavin's gonna tell us because he'll fucking say like, "Oh, bingo!" And we laugh. We're like, "You know, Gavin catches this shit, this all this shit." I don't see anything spreading with people.

Bingo.

And to be fair, I mean, you know, I'm I the road. I don't see anything spreading with people.

Bingo!

And to be—

you know how to double-click, yo.

You know, I'm—

I—

the Road to America.

Bingo! And to be fair, I mean, dude, we've—

bingo! The fucking memes are stacking up. Oh my God, bro. Bingo! Bingo!

Oh, this is a good fuck. This is a fucking good time.

Against like science and spirituality.

It's like fucking like hitch.

Yeah, grab that too. Yeah. All right. Where were we?

I don't see anything spreading with people.

Bingo.

And to be fair, I mean, you know, I'm—

I—

the Road to Omega Project hasn't like really been doing that because it's been a lot of talk. Like in the post, it's like, this is coming, this is coming, this is coming, coming, coming, coming. You know, I'm—

I—

the Road to Omega Project hasn't Like really been doing that because it's been a lot of talk. Like in the post, it's like this is coming, this is coming, this is. It's like this is coming.

This is coming.

This is coming.

This is coming.

Oh man, dude, I've gotta— dude, I should get my homie to, to make like a mix, like an actual like beat, and we'll just drop like all these singular phrases like Bobby saying magic and like this is coming and like bingo.

I'm on it.

Live cafe, uh, fucking beats, dude.

I don't know what all that is, but I'm gonna delete it. What all that is, probably want to delete that. I just gotta check this shit out.

Magic, cosmic magic, big magic.

No, it's like magic fucking coming.

This is coming. This is coming. Magic. Absolute chaos doing all this stuff that I. considered magic. You know, people have like chaos magic and stuff like that. I was calling it causal magic because it's like mechanistic magic. I was kind of trying to emphasize magic, but also that this is mechanistic, so it's like scientific. Creating my space, designing my niche— you design your space to be maximally supportive for your creative or productive endeavors— completely destroy that war against like science and spirituality.

It's like fucking like Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy just met fucking like Tesla and had a baby with Gandhi and Richard Branson and then fucking had sex with Mother Teresa and Marie Curie, and then they fucking made a movie about it.

That goes at the end. No.

Doing all this stuff that I considered magic, you know, people have like chaos magic and stuff like that. I was calling it causal magic because it's like mechanistic magic. I was kind of trying to emphasize magic, but also that this is mechanistic, so it's like scientific. Creating my space, designing my niche, you design your space to be maximally Supportive for your creative or productive endeavors. Scientific.

I feel like this goes somewhere around here. Uh, That there's, there's a movement happening. The Movement, capital T, capital M, is already happening.

Scientific and it's religious, it's art and it's science, it's male and it's female, it's capitalist and it's communist, it's metaphysical and it's not. It's like all of them are happening in the word spirit.

Yes.

Go ahead.

Great clip.

Same time, another contradiction. Well, there's a word for that. If you do more with less, right, you're growing less in the bad way, but you're growing more in the good way. And so I thought, well, how do you go from complex to simple without losing the efficaciousness. And so I thought, well, how do you go from— how do you go from— how do you go from complex without losing the efficaciousness. Like when you said the degrowth, right? Um, really what degrowth means, if we're going to do it wisely, is we have to have growth and degrowth at the same time. And contradiction— there's a word for that. If you do more with less, you're a magician.

Yeah.

How do you go from complex to simple without losing the application? If you do more with less, right, you're growing less in a bad way, but you're growing in a way that's called parameterization. How do you go from complex without losing the efficaciousness? If you do more with less, that's called ephemeralization, which is what Buckminster Fuller called the Bucky—

You know.

Sup, Bret? Hard enough.

Big magic.

Big magic?

No, it's like magic.

Fucking—

I mean, this is coming magic. Always all the stuff that I considered magic, people have like chaos magic and stuff like—

yeah, what is it?

Big magic.

What's that?

All right, magic. Pause.

Magic. Magic.

Bingo.

It's—

what the fuck? Uh, I think it like got a wee bit fucked here and there.

Magic, magic.

Is that it? Can't tell.

Magic, magic. Magic, magic. Magic, magic.

Bingo!

Bingo!

It's like magic fucking coming.

This is coming. This is coming. Magic. I was doing all this stuff that I considered magic. You know, people have like chaos magic and stuff like that. I was calling it causal magic. Because it's like mechanistic magic. I was kind of trying to emphasize magic, but also that this is mechanistic, so it's like scientific.

It's like fucking—

I don't see anything spreading with people.

Bingo.

Coming, this is coming, this is coming. Now it's time to deliver. But the only thing really that people see when you deliver on— we have to create content that goes viral, but also these challenges, like getting people to square off, like making this an event. Let's make it a sport. Let's make philosophy of Mind of emergence.

Like, all right, I got it here.

Now it's time to deliver.

But the only—

what's that thing really that people see when you deliver on? We have to create content that goes viral, but also these challenges, like getting people to square off, like making this an event. Let's make it a sport. Let's make An event.

Let's make it a sport.

Let's—

Is this it?

Making this an event. Let's make it a sport.

Let's— Go ahead.

Making this an event. Let's make it a sport. Let's make Mind of emergence, like—

One more time, man. I just wanted to make sure that I got that clip. And, uh, heads down. I'm back. Oh, gotcha, mate. I'm, uh, so I've got— yeah, let's, let's mix it up for a second. It'll be awesome to like just kind of get out of that headspace for a moment. Thank you. Bring screen. I haven't.

Nope, I haven't.

I'll check it out right here.

It's—

I know they can download.

All right, let's check it out.

Here, the US film industry is saying about online piracy. The US film industry is saying that online piracy is costing the US film industry $20 billion a year. Can you believe that? Online piracy is costing the US film industry $20 billion a year. Like, don't they know they can download that shit for free? You're being ripped off. Okay, use BitTorrent. For the love of God, does anyone here use BitTorrent?

Yeah.

We got a couple of guys. One of the hardest things to do in life Is explain to your mother where to find a legitimate download off the internet. How do you explain to your mom what links to click on? You just know, right? It's the intangibles. You know, it just comes through years and years of internet corporate law abuse. You just know. You look at how the link is phrased, right? You look at the context of the page. Look at the banner ads, how dirty they are, right? Look at the comments. Nine out of nine. You know what's legit? It's like Malcolm Gladwell. Blink, right? You just know what's legit, what's not legit. How do you pass that information to your mom? How do you transfer that expertise to your mom? Your mom doesn't know, right? Because anytime your mom clicks on anything, anything your mom clicks on, it's a virus, all right? As soon as your mom touches that mouse, it's just a virus that compromises the entire system. Your mom could find a virus on the Google homepage, all right? How, how are you Under attack by spyware on the Google home page.

Blank.

I feel like the internet's becoming Angry place, just full troll leader. Know what you're doing? People want suck how much you're wrong. You stay. You sucking your wrong. Generation of youth like what used to by now.

Not doing its job. It's empty, so I need to go inside.

Right on that kind of global, personal, day-to-day basis. Okay, sure, they had their own challenges, right? Like Hitler and the Depression and the bubonic plague. But online trolling, okay, they never had to deal with online trolling on that scale. My mom, she lives in Singapore right now, okay? And she really loves the Singapore government, okay? For whatever reason, probably because of propaganda, all right? All right, so there was like a YouTube video about the Singapore government, and I can't remember whether the video was positive or negative or propaganda. Doesn't even matter, okay? Because the comments were negative. That's my point. No matter what you do online, people just say nasty things about it. So for some reason, my mom scrolls through these comments. She reads all these derogatory comments about the Singapore government. She gets angry, right? So now she needs to do something about it. So like a vigilante, she registers a YouTube account just to respond to every hateful comment on this video, okay? But worse still, she registers her YouTube account using her real name, right? And she's been a response like a three-page dissent. How dare you say this about the Singapore government? Don't know what you're talking about. You're spoiled. You're ignorant. Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah post. Five minutes after posting, regrets posting it because she used her real name. Calls me up from Singapore all the way to Australia where I live right now on the phone. Ask me, Ronnie, Ronnie, how you did comment off YouTube? Let me tell you something. Explain to your mom over the phone how to fix a computer. Computer problem. When you can't see the screen.

I have a very important question for you, Brad. Does your Wi-Fi router have an Ethernet port?

And you catch the information. You don't even—

I, I am gonna like make the recommendation that you experiment with like getting your shit connected via like, you know, Ethernet cable as opposed to Wi-Fi. Cool, cool, cool. Maybe that'll help. All right, now we're home. Let's get this charging so it don't shut down. And get this charging. It's not working. Come on, we're not going up there. Good girl, Bailey. So I got Am I back? Oh, I see what's going on here. And now I think I'm back. Can you hear me? Cool. All right. So I got a dude coming in. I haven't met him before. Like, he responded to a tweet from Richard Bartlett, I think, mentioning me. Which is kind of fun. Oh yeah, the conversation went well with him, and he had some ideas for like events and whatnot, and was kind enough to like mention me in a tweet. And so if I was coming in to say hello, what's that guy's name? Nick Redmark. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm good with that. Actually, that's probably a good idea. I'll just dip on over to a different table. That way I won't have to explain.

Ouch.

Cool, cool, cool. Awesome.

Right.

Sounds like fun to me, man. All right. Well, we need to get you like, uh, you know, we need to unleash the Bret with, with more firepower.

You bet.

Sounds like fun to me, dude. All right, I'm gonna— I'm gonna bounce on— what happened with the— oh, I see. Yeah, yeah, I'll dip out, man.