Ep #216: We’ve Been Learning the Wrong Skills! 3 Top Skills to Focus On

Hello and welcome to the Get a Six Figure Job You Love and Thrive podcast. This is Natalie Fisher and this is episode 216. We've been learning the wrong skills and the top 3 to learn right now. Stay tuned. Welcome to the Get a Six Figure Job You Love and Thrive podcast, where I, Natalie Fisher, am teaching you weekly how to land your premium role that you love and thrive in it. Let's go. Hello. Hello. So I just had a revelation of how to talk about this. So a big thing that I teach in my program are skills beyond the resume, cover letter, LinkedIn profile. When I started this whole endeavor, I really didn't want to be reviewing resumes, writing resumes. That wasn't my goal at all. I was like, leave that to people who know better. And I've done a lot of that now, and I have a lot of examples of what's worked because it's just the nature of what I do. But it's not my favorite place to be working. And I'll tell you why it's not. Because we're told we need all these skills when we start out in our career. We're told we need stuff like a degree or a certification or a great resume, right? We're told we need those things, and we need some of those things sometimes. But what's most important is not those things, because even with those things, a lot of people are still failing. A lot of people are still not getting the jobs they want to get. Have we noticed this? Have we noticed that people with great resumes, people who write great cover letters, people who have Great degrees and certifications, and people who have maybe a huge long list of certifications are still not landing the jobs they want to land. Have we noticed this? Can we pause for a moment and say, okay, if that's the case, then it's obvious that those are not the things that actually get us the job, right? Yes, sometimes they can help. Yes, sometimes we need them. Is there anything wrong with those things? No, those things are great, but they're not all we need. So why I think we think like this as a society is because of what we're told. It's a story that's really, really old. It's been passed down generations, generations, right? It's like, you need to get a degree, you need to go to college, you need to get certain grades to be successful, right? You need to study, you need to gain knowledge, right? It's like read, read, read, and then regurgitate the information back onto a page. Of questions somebody asked you. That's the process we've been taught. That's how we've been taught to learn, right? And that's how we've been taught to be successful. So it goes back a lot because we have been taught that in, in school, that's what we need to do, right? And we are successful in school when we do that really well, right? But then when we get out into the real world and we're trying to influence people to hire us, we're trying to create opportunity for ourselves, we're trying to share value that we can create, we're trying to start a business, do things that are, that's, that are different than, you know, writing a test. We have to apply different strategies and different mindsets to this, totally different approaches. And those are not what we're taught. We're never taught about these things. So I think that's why we have this problem as a society, is thinking that we need all these hard skills and that's the only answer. And we don't often have the perspective that we have other Other options, other things we can learn. Like, there's so many other things we can learn that will help us way more than learning another hard skill, for example. So what I see normally happen is people just wanna get more, more, right? It's like submit more resumes, submit more things into the black hole, apply more. And statistics are showing that right now the majority of people are actually Submitting their job applications through the old-fashioned way. That's what most people are doing. And it's just, it doesn't make any statistical sense that you would stand out that way. Right? So it's like, if you wanna do something you never have done before, you need to do something that you've never done, right? Or if you wanna, you need to take some emotional risks, you need to do some different things, right? And that is a skill because It's scary to do those things, and we might not even know what those things are, right? So how we cope with not getting the results is we think, oh, we'll just do more. We'll just submit more resumes. Instead of submitting 10, I need to submit like 100. And then setting ourselves these unrealistic goals of not actually doing them, and then feeling like we're losing because we're in this cycle of promising ourselves we're gonna do more and then not doing as much. And it's not fun because we're not getting the results anyway. So why would we keep doing it? Why would we want to? Right? Yeah. And it's like, people just don't know that there's other ways, other options. So why this doesn't work is because it's never a skill someone can put their finger on as to why they didn't hire you. I mean, they'll use the hard skills as an excuse. So oftentimes they'll say, oh, you didn't have enough Scrum Master experience, or you didn't have enough Salesforce experience. But if they interviewed you, they already knew that. Right? And they interviewed you anyway. So that wasn't the reason. And I'm going to explain in a minute further down in the podcast why this happens. And it's not because you didn't have the skill. It's because, it's not because you didn't have that hard skill. It's because you were missing some other skills in the process, and that's why you weren't able to close that deal. Okay. So, A lot of the times, interviewers, people who are making a decision, people who are making a hiring decision that involves budget and money, they don't even know exactly why they didn't go with you, right? Because it was a subconscious decision. And this is how humans work. We make decisions subconsciously based on emotion first, and then we support those decisions with logic. Then it's easy to find all the logic that backs up our emotional decision. So What the subconscious does is it makes the decision quickly based on some kind of gut reaction, some sort of vibe, some sort of feeling, right? So have you ever heard that they make their decision within the first 3 minutes of meeting you like that? And sometimes that's true, not for everybody, but a lot of the times that can be true. They make their decision emotionally because at that point they don't have enough information to make a logical decision. They might have resume information, but they don't have actual conversations or history with you. So They make their decision about how they feel about you fairly quickly, and then they support every— like, everything you say is then filtered through that lens of that initial decision, right? And so then it's supported with logic, whether or not they like your answers or they don't. They'll be looking for things they like about what you're saying versus looking for things they don't like about what you're saying, based on that initial reaction that they had, that initial feeling that they first got about you. Okay. And sometimes you can totally change that opinion. Like sometimes you can turn that around for sure. And that's, that's, I've definitely got examples of that happening, but generally this is how it happens. And that's why people always say, you know, they're gonna understand how they feel about you within those first 3 minutes of meeting you. So does that sound familiar? So for example, this is an example scenario. So when I was in the hiring room and I would do the interviewing, if somebody really liked a candidate, they would defend the fact that they didn't have a lot of experience. So if somebody would say, yeah, but she doesn't have the SQL skills that we're really looking for. But if somebody really wanted to hire her, cuz they felt that emotional pull and they liked her and they felt they could work with her, they would say things like, yeah, but she's got experience in Microsoft and she's used Postgres before, so I think she could totally pick it up quickly. Right? Just imagine these discussions in the back, and they're happening because somebody had an emotional pull towards you, and they don't even know why. They don't know why that happened. They just know that it did. And so, they're now defending you in the room when you're not there because they had that emotional pull. So, I'm just saying, it doesn't have to do with your skills, your hard skills, because they wouldn't interview you if it did. If they saw on your resume that you only had a certification in something, but that you didn't have experience in it that you had highlighted, then they probably wouldn't even bring you in for an interview. So that's what I always see happening. And having been in the back room of these discussions, I know how this works. It's a subconscious thing. If someone's decided they like a candidate, they're going to defend the candidate no matter what experience they do or don't have. So that's one of the skills we're missing, and I'm going to talk to you about that. Later on in this episode when I talk about the 3 skills. But anyways, what ultimately happens is when we don't learn to create the other skills, like one of them is how to appeal to the subconscious mind, then we keep trying to fix ourselves with the logical, right? So we keep trying to fix ourselves with more certifications, more experience, working for less money, Working for free to try to gain experience, taking unpaid internships, doing things like that. We will try to do that to support the logic of you should hire us, but we're not addressing the emotional subconscious component, and we don't know what else to do to do this. So that we so we just keep on doing the logical, right? So someone comes and tells you, oh. You don't have enough SQL experience and you think, okay, yeah, that's true. I'll go get a SQL certification. Great. That'll solve my problem. Right? I've had a client do this before she started working with me. And then we saw this pattern and I'm sure this is a pattern for so many people. I know it is. So then she would say, okay, great. So I went and got my SQL certification. I put it on my resume. I'm like, okay, I'm ready to go. Go out there. And they say, oh, but you know what? You don't have your Scrum Masters, and that's something we really require is a Scrum Master certification. But they interviewed her and they knew she didn't have it. So then what? So she's like, okay, I'll go get my Scrum Master certification. Okay, so that's done. And then she's like, okay, so I got that. I put that on my resume. I'm ready to go. And then I go for the interview and they say, oh, but you don't have your PMP. We just can't hire someone without a PMP. We're sorry. And it's like, again, they knew that. They still They saw what she did have, they met her, and then they supported with the logic, right? So, and the thing that ended up being with her, she was just giving off these very defensive vibes, kind of frustrated defensive vibes, because she was frustrated that she felt like she had to explain herself when she was like, I can do this already, just gimme the job. Like, that was her internal dialogue, right? So these frustrated defensive vibes were repelling people, right? It had nothing to do with her skills, but yet if she had continued to believe that, Which is what they were telling her. So it's like, oh, that makes sense. It's because of my skills, right? It's not. It's not those skills. So she would be like, okay, I'll go get my PMP. Okay, then I'll go. It's like, where does it end? Where do you stop? Where do you realize that's not actually the problem? So that's why people come to me because I'm trained to identify this. Okay. I'm trained to help you find this in yourself. Okay. So, and it's kind of like that yeah, but syndrome. It's like, yeah, but you know, you did this, but this doesn't really count because you didn't really do it here, even though obviously if you're in the job, you could totally transfer that skill over, right? Like, it's— people will logically find excuses not to hire you because they subconsciously have felt something is off. They haven't connected. They don't like you maybe, or like they would never say that, but like they— something in this because of the subconscious is off, right? They have detected something that they don't feel fully comfortable with, and so they're saying no. And then they're supporting it with these logical decisions or these logical reasons, even though those reasons are BS because they interviewed you. So they knew that already. Well, keep coming back to that because you're— if you're getting interviews, your problem is not your hard skills. Okay? And like I said in the beginning, if someone likes you, they are— if someone has made that subconscious decision about you, they are going to hire you because they're going to make excuses for you in other areas. They're going to be like, yeah, but she's got this. Oh, but she's got 3 years doing this. Like, if she could do that, she could totally do this, right? They're going to totally like make all the reasons up why they need to hire you, even like, even if you don't have the skills, right? And I've seen it happen over and over again. So this is why I fight so hard for like, you don't need another certification. Okay. Even though a lot of people are spending a lot of money on certifications and they're not spending any time and focus on the skills where they really need to be. The most, okay? And that's where my program comes in. That's why people come to me and they always say, "I wish I heard about this sooner. I wish I knew about the work that you're teaching sooner because this is ultimately what has helped me figure this out." So that's what happens. We ultimately end up trying to appeal to the logical mind when the logical mind was never making the decision in the first place. It was always the emotional and the subconscious mind, okay? And there's lots of studies on this. One in particular that comes to mind is. A Harvard Business Review study that I may have talked about previously. So if you're a longtime listener of the podcast, you might recognize this. If you are one of my clients, you probably will, but it's called The Competent Jerk versus The Lovable Fool. And so the premise is that there can be a bunch of people who are very, very competent, but they're, they're kind of jerky pants. And then there can be people who are not amazing at their job. Like maybe they just know enough to get by. They're not very good, But they're wonderful people and they're so lovely and pleasant. And maybe they bring you coffee in the morning and they just, they make you feel so good by being around them. And so the study shows that people will do everything they can to make excuses for these people who are like, the lovable fool will win the majority of the time. Like, I think it's, it was hands down, no contest for the lovable fool. They will win. Against the competent jerk, because who wants to work with a competent jerk? That's who I was with for 10 years, by the way, in my 10-year-long relationship. He was incredibly competent, incredibly smart, but he was not a good human and he made me feel like crap. And you know what? Emotionally, that was worth no amount of money. So no thank you. I can see why this study is so accurate, right? So That's another example, but it really goes to show that it's not about your skills. It's not about how smart you are. It's emotional decisions supported by logic, right? And then, and the logic that people find about you, they can pick and choose, right? And they will pick depending on what that emotional reaction is to you. So, that happens every day. It's happening every day. Okay? So, Let's not make that mistake. Like, I feel like we need to stop. We need to be real with ourselves, and when you get it, you'll get it, and everything will change for you. You can stop spending money on certifications. You can start using and being proud of the certifications and the education that you already have, knowing you don't need more, knowing that the lessons you need to learn are in another realm altogether. Okay, so. The first skill you need is understanding the subconscious mind, their subconscious and how it works, and your own subconscious and how it works. So learning the skill of influence, subconscious influence. And I know this can sound a little weird and woo-woo, but it's when we use it for good, right? We're not trying to trick anybody into doing things they don't want to do. We're not trying to deceive or manipulate. We're just using what is for the greater good, right? So the greater good of you and what you deserve and the greater good of what they're going to get when they hire you and have you working there with them. So it's not anything bad. It can maybe sound a little bit manipulative to say this, we're gonna teach you the tricks of the subconscious mind, but ultimately this is what's happening anyway, right? So we might as well use it. To our advantage. And the people who listen to my podcast, I know you're good people. I know you're smart. I know a lot of you listening. Hi, shout out to all my clients. And I want to say that we need— we can use these skills for good and you can succeed, and it will be much easier for you to succeed than going to get more certifications, even though you think more certifications is going to be what you need, right? So I hope I've made the case for that's not true. Right? I mean, if you don't have any and you wanna get one, go for it. I was saying I have my life coach master certification from the Life Coach School, and I freaking love that I did that. I love that certification. I've learned so much from it. I love the Life Coach School. I would not take that back. I don't regret that. However, I don't think I need to now go get 5 more certifications in life coaching because that's not gonna get me anywhere. I know the skills that I need to refine. I know what I need to do next, and it has Nothing to do with more certifications, right? So that's the difference, right? So I'm not saying don't ever get a certification. Get one, but don't go down that rabbit hole like I talked about with my client, right? So that's the first skill is understanding the subconscious mind, yours and theirs. Okay? And using that for the greater good. And you might think if you think, oh, I'm introverted, or oh, I'm just not that person who people like right away, or I'm just not this, or I'm just not that. Stop yourself right there. Put that aside. That is not an issue. Okay? You are a good person. If you're a good person, I can help you. I can help you use the subconscious mind for the greater good. Okay? And it, yeah, I go into a lot of detail on this inside my program. Skill number 2 is learning to think on purpose. Okay? And so this might seem simplistic. I run the risk of having you think, oh yeah, yeah, this is easy. I already know. I already do this. But it's really a lot deeper than that, right? We are programmed and primed on default thinking most of the time. Okay? If you're one of my clients, you've been with me for a while, you might be more used to thinking on purpose, right? You might have more, more experience with this, but most people don't think on purpose and it's not their fault. And even I at 40 years old still have old pre-programmed preconditioned beliefs that I'm working on deconditioning. I'm still doing that. So I know that you have some too. Right? So thinking on purpose is essentially making clear decisions in the moment about how you want to think about a situation so that you can respond in the best possible way. So I'll give you an example. So a lot of the times when somebody's in an interview and they get a question that they don't know the answer to, their immediate thought is very important there because that thought is gonna either derail the rest of the interview or it's gonna potentially get you the job because you, you, you got through that in a way that they really appreciated and respected. Okay, so for example, they ask you a question you don't know the answer to. So if you think your default thought might be, oh crap, I don't know this, shoot, I'm SOL, how am I going to recover from this, I don't know the answer, I should know the answer, oh my God, why are they even interviewing me, I should know the answer, how could I not know the answer, right? If you could go down a rabbit hole like that, which I know a lot of people have, you're gonna start to automatically from those thoughts feel doubtful. You're gonna start to feel doubtful, maybe discouraged, maybe like very uncertain. Maybe you're starting to become uncertain if you can even do the job if you don't know this answer, and you just kind of go down this rabbit hole, right? And so with that, you're gonna give a certain vibe and a certain response. Right? And that isn't going to be a very powerful one if you're thinking like that. So you might think, uh, yeah, I don't really know. Um, can we maybe come back to that? And then you don't want to come back to it because you don't know the answer, or you'll just kind of fudge something, maybe try to pretend you know the answer, but you don't, and it's very obvious that you don't. Okay. Or you might get defensive and be like, that's not even important. Why are they even asking me that? Why does that even matter? Right? Not to say, like, different people respond different ways, no judgment, right? Just an awareness of like, if you're thinking like that, you might start feeling discouraged, not happy with yourself. Maybe you beat yourself up a little bit and you allow that interview to get derailed. And then for the rest of the interview, even if you know all the answers after that and you're excited to answer them, you're already in that state of like, ah, I should have known that. I've blown it. Ah, this is not going well. Right? Whereas if you were thinking on purpose and you got that question and you were like, oh, I have a choice what I can think here. And you were like, well, I don't have to get 100% on the test to win, so it's not like school. And you honestly, this is how I recommend people say it. You honestly say, you know what? I don't actually know the answer to that question. However, if I was in the position, Mm-hmm. This is how I would go about finding the answer because I know I can always find answers. I'm really good at research and I'm really good at discovering new things. And of course I'm not going to know all the answers. This is a new role, but I'm really excited to learn them. And this is— these are some of the strategies that I use to find answers that I don't have on the job, right? So if you were to answer like that, now you're not feeling bad about yourself, right? Because your thoughts aren't, oh my God, I should know this. Oh crap, this— I'm screwed. Now you're thinking, yeah, I don't have to know everything. I like— I know I can do the job. I know I can figure it out. I don't have to know everything. So I'm just going to be honest with them. I'm just going to tell them. And you're not making it a big deal. You're still a human. You don't know everything and you're owning it and you're totally cool with it. And you've now showcased a skill of how you find answers. Right. And I'll also add that interviews are so unrealistic to the real events. When you get hired, you're never going to be in a situation where they're like, if you don't answer that right now, you're fired. That's never going to happen. When you're in the role, you're always going to have the opportunity to go find the answer, to go ask somebody, to Google it, to go look at a resource, to go look at past policies or procedures, or you're, you're going to have a bazillion different ways to find this answer. But in the interview, you're on the spot and you don't have that. What you do have is the ability to think on purpose, and that's all you need, my friend. So there we have it. That's an example of thinking on purpose, okay? And when you don't know how to think on purpose, your default thinking will take over and you'll just get swept up into whatever usually negative spiral your brain offers you, okay? And it's honestly the easiest one. The easiest one is the negative one because our brain tends to have a bias towards the negative. And I think it's from that survival mechanism. It wants us to survive, and it thinks that if we're scared and we're startled, then we'll be more effective. That only really works when a tiger's chasing us, not when we're in an interview. So, we have evolved past that. So, we need to learn to think on purpose. That is the skill of being evolved past caveman days where the tiger's chasing us. So, that's an example. And then, skill number 3 is taking emotional risks and getting out of your comfort zone. So, this is something that most people don't do. And like I said, if you want something you've never had before, you need to do things you've never done before. I would take it further and say, if you want something you've never had before, you're going to need to think in a different way than you've ever thought before. And that is a good example of the last example that I just used is, you know, if you're thinking on purpose, you're thinking differently, right? Because the default thinking is normally going to be negative. So taking emotional risks Getting out of your comfort zone. So most people don't know how to do that. A lot of people are just applying more, applying more, tweaking my resume, applying more, applying more. Taking an emotional risk is going to be different for one person than it is for another. Okay, so for one person, it might just be reaching out to someone that they don't know. For another person, it might be reaching out to somebody that they know that they could reach out to, but they haven't talked to in months, and they're afraid they're just going to think they want something. Or an emotional risk is showing up to an event and maybe pitching yourself as a speaker if you're farther along in your career. So I have the different phases of career. This would be if you're in a farther phase, right? It's going to be different for you than it is going to be for somebody else, but taking emotional risk is going to be necessary to get to where you're going. Okay? And the good news is here is most people are not taking emotional risks. Most people are not even thinking about how to take emotional risks. They're just doing the same thing over and over and they're repeating it and they're thinking they have to do it more, 5 times harder. They're not getting the results, and they're posting on LinkedIn and complaining about how they have tried everything and nothing is working. Okay, so it's actually not difficult to do this. Inside my program, I am the expert on emotional risks. I will, I will get you out of your comfort zone if you care to join, and that's where you will start seeing the results. Okay, so I have classes on the different emotional risks that each person in each phase of their career needs to take. And of course, you decide which ones ultimately are right for you, but you will feel differently than you have been feeling. Okay? And I always like to say, it's your choice of discomfort, right? It's discomfort of not getting results because that's happening anyway. You're not getting the results you want, so you're not happy, you're frustrated. Or it's the discomfort of doing something big and scary that you don't know if it's going to work, but at least that has a possibility to open up a door, move you forward. And get your result you have never gotten before, right? And then getting better at doing that, that's skill number 3, is building that skill of taking emotional risk over and over so that you can see success faster. So why it works better. Why does it work better to work on these skills? So these are 3 that I came up with: understanding the subconscious mind, thinking on purpose, and taking emotional risks, all of which we cover in detail, in depth, That's inside the Six Figure Curriculum. And it's a lifetime access program and it's full of content and information and weekly coaching. So you don't have to worry about getting through it or getting it done in a certain amount of time. It is a lifetime of work. Well, I don't wanna overwhelm you, but it is a lifetime of my work basically put into one place. So why it works better to work on these skills is because If you have some degree of hard skills already, then these skills are actually gonna take you much farther than your hard skills. Because think about it, if you know how to appeal to the subconscious mind, if you know how to think on purpose, if you know how to take emotional risks to get to your next level and see success more consistently, if you know how to take those risks, the opportunity to learn hard skills will be very, very easy to find. Right? You get hired into a job, you'll be thrown in, you'll be learning hard skills. They might even pay for your training programs. It's a tax benefit to them to pay for education for employees. So that's something most companies will do. If you are able to think on purpose, you're going to be able to create more results in that job, which is going to allow you to rise to the top faster. It's going to allow you to have a more enjoyable career. It's going to allow you so many more possibilities when you know how to think on purpose. Choose your thoughts for the situation on purpose ahead of time. And taking emotional risks, that's going to be a lifetime skill that's going to help you to create things in your life that you want, and it's going to just be a new way of being for you. So that is a transferable skill across the board, and so are all of these, right? So these skills are far more important than the hard skills. I would even say somebody without any hard skills at all and with these 3 skills would be able to make it much farther. They'd be able to start at an entry-level position. They'd be able to make their way through. They would be able to move their way up a ladder more successfully than somebody with just a bunch of degrees and none of these skills, or a whole bag of education, but none of these skills. So I always say, it's like, yes, that education is great. But like I said at the beginning, there's so many people with a ton of education, a ton of certifications, Still not landing the job offers. Why is that then? A bunch of people with great, amazing resumes and great LinkedIn profiles still not landing the job. Why? It's because of this. So one thing that I have have really learned to do with taking emotional risks—a little side note—is when something doesn't go the way that I want it to or the way that I plan to, I used to immediately get frustrated and go into self-pity. And now I like when I'm thinking on purpose, I'm not doing that anymore. I'm getting into curiosity and learning. So I'm immediately questioning, huh, why is this happening? This is happening for me. I'm curious, why did this happen? What was my role in it? And what's what? What is there here for me to learn? What is my lesson? Right? And it's a habit that I get myself into instead of going into that self-doubt of. Like, oh, this didn't work. I'm frustrated. I put in all this work and it didn't work. That's what I used to do. So with that thinking on purpose, that particular thought process pattern skill that I've now created as a habit, that has allowed me to just keep going. I don't have to stop. I don't have to— like, I can take breaks if I want to. I don't shame myself for it. I'm just like, I know that I'm going to get the new ideas and I'm going to get those lessons. And I know that that happened for a reason. So That's another example of thinking on purpose, right? The thought of when something doesn't go right or you get rejected or you don't get the result you wanted, most people are going to think, ah, I'm frustrated. I'm putting on all this work. This isn't working. What am I doing wrong? Ah. And they're creating that emotional cocktail of emotions inside them of self-doubt, self-pity, uncertainty, and frustration. And That is something that can be avoidable, right? I'm speaking from my own experience. So if I do get into that, it's not for very long. And it's just like a wave that I ride. I'm like riding. I'm like, okay, we're just going on to the next wave. Like, it's okay. And then I, I get right into that learning of it. And that is a huge skill. And again, one that most, most people don't have, and 70 certifications won't teach you that. So what you're going to need to do in order to adopt these skills is to shift your energy and focus and become a student of the new skills. So these are just 3 skills as examples that I teach inside my program. I teach a lot more skills than this, but like, I can't— when we come on the coaching calls on Tuesdays, I kind of share— I think I share the skill that the person needs to hear at that time. But But these are 3 examples of really good ones to get you started. Okay? So I always say, if you become a student of this work, you will go far. I'm becoming a student of the work that my teachers have laid out for me, and I've been studying their work for years, and I'm still going back and mastering it and getting my roots from it. And it's not just like a, oh, I studied it, I know it, I'm done. It's like, it's a mastery of work that has to, that I do. And mastering this work, so much more valuable than spending my time going to get 5 more life coaching certifications. And trust me, there are a lot more life coaching certifications that I can get. I get advertisements for them all the time and I'm like, no, I don't need that. I need to go back and study the work of, of the people that I've already, that have already helped me, you know? So. I have had several different mentors, but the ones that have really stuck with me are actually the ones that have the lifetime programs like the one I do, and the ones that keep evolving and keep putting more into those lifetime programs and keep giving. It's like the gifts that keep on giving. So that's why I like to do mine that way too, because I so appreciate that they did it that way for me so that I could continue to learn. So it's really a mastery. It's a mastery of— The work, and it's not the work that most people are doing. So the results that are created from doing this, you will notice things shifting, new opportunities you hadn't noticed before. You'll start to see the way things are changing as far as your results goes. You'll start to see opportunities and things you couldn't originally see. You'll start seeing the universe kind of talking back to you. So when you start taking those emotional risks, you will be met with different responses. You'll get different opportunities. You'll see different doors opening up for you, and you'll start to kind of become that person who just notices and sees opportunity and starts seeing things, right? And this is a beautiful thing because this is not something that a certification, a degree, or a resume is going to get you. That's being kind of stuck in the same old pattern. So if you're ready to break out of that pattern, I'm ready for you. The program is open. It's www.nataliefisher.ca/waitlist. I believe we're on a waitlist right now. The program is opening again in October, and I will take you through a 3-day series that will show you how to implement these skills and then how I show you how to do it inside the program. So if you'd like to go deeper on this, click the link in the show notes and we will get you registered for the next 3-day training. So I do this 3-day training and It's very indicative of helping you to set that foundation. So setting a foundation that, that you can then build on, okay? And then I want to help you build as high as you want to go, okay? So that's it for today's podcast. I will see you next week. Thanks very much. Hey, have you left me a review yet? If not, leaving me one now comes with an awesome bonus perk. I'm going to give you access to my $97 course. It's titled 8 Reasons Why You Get Interviews But No Job Offers. This course is normally $97, but when you leave me a review, as a thank you, I will give you access to it for free. And it's helped many professionals like you land their premium job offers and make more money just by simply going through this 4-day training that I did. I received so much feedback on so many of the results just from $97 training, and I'd love to gift you that for free. So all you have to do is leave me a review on your favorite podcast platform, preferably iTunes, screenshot the review, email it to me. 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