Creating Social Impact through Exercise with Vizer

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And welcome back to the Tacos in Tech podcast. I'm your host, Neil Bloom, and I am joined by two co hosts today. Caitlin Wege of Moodoose Investments and TCA and Alison Long of Crescent Ridge Partners. Hey, guys. Thanks for joining me.

Thank you for having us. It's always fun to be on this podcast. I'm an avid listener.

Yes, thanks for having us.

Allison, it's your first time on the pod.

I know. I was just going to say been.

Too long and I'm glad we're doing it. Now. We're going to talk about one of our favorite crazes right now from the wellness space. Just a favorite company in San Diego, Visor, the Visor app team. We're going to bring them on in a second. Allison, you actually got to introduce Us to them. Do you want to actually give us a little background of how you got to meet them?

Sure. Well, I was fortunate enough to meet them through my partner Sylvia, who has known Sam and Dylan since, I don't know how many years since they were first thinking about this idea. I don't know, three or four years ago, probably. We, our paths crossed. They were coming into the office, but I never spoke to them until, you know, a year or two later and, you know, have just been super impressed by their tenacity, their vision, what they've been able to accomplish. Also the mission that they're on, which is, you know, very, I think, unique these days to have someone who's equally as passionate about growing and scaling a really huge business, but also staying true to, you know, what they actually want to accomplish, which is to improve people's health and wellness and quality of life.

That's awesome.

Well, I just want to bring them on.

I just want to talk to them.

So let's bring on Sam and Dylan. Adviser. Guys, welcome to the podcast.

Hey, thank you. We're excited to be here.

Do you want to give us a quick one minute overview of what Pfizer is?

Yeah. So Vysor is a free app, so it's on the app store on iOS and Android, but the whole goal of it is to help people develop healthier habits. So what we do is set a goal each day, whether you want to get 10,000 steps, 30 minutes of exercise, you have a Fitbit or an Apple watch, or take a class at a studio that we partner with. You'll be able to unlock a meal donation. So all you have to do is come into the app before midnight each night and click Donate. And each time you donate a meal, you get points, and you can use those for free items in our marketplace. So we partner with a ton of restaurants across the country. You can work out, donate meals, get a free drink at True Food Kitchen.

How did you two connect to do this?

So Sam and I. Sam and I are cousins. And so she had the original idea, you know, what, four years ago, five years ago, and came back from abroad. And Sam can. You can cut me off whenever. And kind of told me about the idea. She wasn't like, offering to work together or anything. She's like, yes, is what I'm doing. I was like, cool, I'm going to quit and work with you. So then I did that, quit my job, moved to San Diego, and then we kind of just like hit the ground running. That's the abbreviated version.

Yeah, I Think the important part is Dylan and I are cousins, so we wouldn't just meet through this. We've known each other for a long time now, it seems, but we were always very close. So when I came back from abroad, I told him about the idea. We just clicked on it right away. Like, we spent hours going back and forth and kind of talking through it from every side. And I feel like since then, we've been, aside from his reality TV stunt, very, very, like, heavily side by side on it.

I would love Sam just to talk us through the journey of, you know, the early days where you kind of had an idea and you were thinking about kind of pairing wellness with philanthropy. And I think you went through several iterations before you kind of settled on the business model currently as it is. But I don't think it's actually that different from where you started from. So just take us kind of through that journey. And, you know, now that you guys are at a million meals donated, you know, how do you. How did you get that there? And how did you get to scale quickly once you did get it?

Yeah, definitely. So the idea started in a social venture incubator, and the whole question was, how could we use business to solve social problems? And for me, I had always really struggled with working out, like, wanted to be healthy, really wanted to hit those goals, but I could just never find the personal motivation to do it. And we were participating in this program, and. And the whole question was, you know, how can you come at that from a different angle? And how can you build something that's sustainable and would grow? And the idea was, if you could make your workout bigger than you, or if there was, like, another motivation that would get you to show up every day, then that could be the motivation that would push you forward. So that core concept was you would work out and you would have the opportunity to do something tangible every day in donating a meal. And that hasn't changed at all from that first pitch back abroad to today. I think once Dylan and I started working on it full time in 2018, that's where the business model really got solidified around it of, okay, how are we going to truly make something sustainable that can scale and grow? Because the more sustainable the business model is, the more impact we could deliver. And we really just spent that first year just kind of meeting with local businesses and figuring out what value we could offer and how we could build the platform to really be helpful.

And while you were building that, the question is, for the scale, you had kind of this or at least other companies in similar positions with the two sided marketplace. It was a bit of a chicken or an egg problem to start. So who did you get on first? The brands, the people working out? How did you make those connections?

We spent the first year in San Diego meeting with quite literally anyone that would sit down and have coffee with us. And I feel like we Met maybe like 400 people that year. That was like super crucial because I think like, especially starting when, when what we were like 23, 24, something like that, it's, it's kind of hard to be taken seriously right out of the gate. And so I think like our, the best trait that we had was just tell people what we were going to do and then we'd come back in a month and be like, yeah, we did it. So initially we kind of just had this clickable prototype. So it was like a PowerPoint essentially on your phone that you could click through, but it looked like the app. So we would take it to like local restaurants and be like, hey, this is kind of what we're doing. This is how it would work. It'll be ready in two weeks, we promise. It was always going to be ready in two weeks, you know, six months later. And then they kind of were just like, all right, I like what you're doing. You guys seem like you'll figure it out. And so we got like 10 local spots on. I know in Contra was our, our first one. Then like Babe, Kombucha, Empanada, Kitchen native, Poppy. And then we kind of just like did everything we could to get to chosen foods. Chosen foods and shout out Kate. And so they're local and they were like them Bird Rock Coffee and the Patio group I think were like our first kind of like sponsors. And you know, it's $500 here or $1,000 here. And then we kind of just, just opened up the app to a small group in San Diego. We donated 40 something meals our first day. And then from there it's just kind of been people, you know, more so believing in the cause and that Sam and I are going to do what we say. And here we are a million meals later.

So, so those sponsors are the ones when you complete your exercise goal and then they, then you can donate a meal. But then you have the other part of the platform where you can earn points to, to use at local businesses. And so tell me a little bit about that aspect. Cause I love that because it's like you're giving back twice, you're donating a meal and then you're being drawn into local business. So you're helping local business as well.

Yeah. And we always say there's kind of three levels of impact to the platform. And I think people focus really heavily obviously on the donations because that's something super tangible and what you're working towards. But the first level is how are we helping people get healthier? So the 50% of the population that wants to be active but struggles, how do we help them move more? The second is obviously increasing access to healthy food. So how are we getting more healthy food into the hands of the people who need it? But the third is really that supporting local businesses. So how are we finding aligned businesses in the community who are offering health Forward items who could be a part of that lifestyle for you? And introducing somebody who we know via our platform would actually really care about the work they're doing and where they're sourcing their ingredients and what they chose to put on their menu. So that third part of it, supporting local and kind of connecting conscious consumers and conscious brands, is really the concept of the market. A motivation for it was that my dad had a restaurant that failed. You know, we have a family of restaurateurs, I'm Greek, but he opens it up. They had great food, great ambiance, but they just couldn't get the word out. So we really want to be an ally for those businesses where they have somewhere to promote and really spread their message and then hopefully help them find long term loyalty with their customers.

Well, one of the things I think you touched on, which I believe is a huge hallmark and strength of your company, is how carefully you curate all of your partners. I think that it would be great to hear kind of your take on what you look for because I know one of the things that we talked about early on, Sam, is just you're not afraid to say no to people. And I think if there are brands that don't align with what the two of you hold dear, then it's not a problem to not have them on there. And that's such a different perspective, I think, than the typical startup where it's a very skilled, more scarcity, like anyone who will give me money or anyone who will be a customer, anyone who will be a partner if they have a big name, like, I'll take them. So I'd love to just hear more on that and, you know, what are the values that you guys have and look for?

Yeah, I think when it comes to that starting out, it's definitely a hard thing. To do because you have to just be like so confident in what you're doing when you hear no almost every day. And so I always think that there's like a huge portion of starting a company that you have to be just like, so either extremely naive or you have to be just willfully kind of like ignorant at the end of the day. And that's kind of how things will get kicked off. Or both. Yeah, but I think when it comes to like building out, you know, the partnership structure and really like community, that's what it is at the end of the day, like when we're talking to these companies, you're like, this isn't just like a one off, you know, give us this, we'll give you this. We shake hands and go our separate way. Like we want you to be in the boat with us. It's kind of like our saying. And when it comes to values, like first starts with the people at the end of the day that we're dealing with and if they can like really, you know, resonate with what we're working on, it's just such a great way to kind of kick off a working relationship. And then two, just in terms of values like caring about health, you know, wanting to give back, wanting to be more kind of like just ingrained in the community is something that we really look for. But I mean, it really comes down to the health aspect at the end of the day. And being healthy, you know, is the definition that we've been trying to figure out. It's not working out seven days a week for, you know, an hour a day. In our mind. We really feel like it's having a balanced diet, it's having a healthy social life, it's getting some sleep. It's just like kind of just being in balance and so finding companies who kind of believe that and that being healthy is more than just, you know, working out super, super hard every single day is kind of like where our values, I would say align related to.

That kind of holistic values, but also growth. I think you've largely bootstrapped minus some grant, like non dilutive grant funding to date. Got to imagine funding has been offered. Has there been kind of this approach to grow slow and grow with the right people before kind of growing too fast and taking too much outside capital?

Yeah, we've already always said that we really wanted to prove the infrastructure in our backyard, figure out what works, what doesn't, what do we like, what could we take to other parts of the company and other parts of the Business. And then once we had that model, grow out of San Diego in a really significant way, when we launched, we were only available here. We had local businesses involved. We directly work with the Jacobsen Cushman San Diego Food Bank. When Covid hit and you saw this mass increase in need for meals, we expanded overnight to try to help support that. But we're still kind of filling out the marketplaces in other cities. And I think part of that journey, we were very fortunate to win the competition with the Alliance Healthcare foundation because that afforded us the opportunity to grow this way. But we were very careful, I think, about keeping agency and how do we keep this kind of in our control, figure out exactly what we want to do. So by the time we did take in outside capital, it was really building the vision that we had set, and that wasn't getting deviated earlier on than we would have wanted it to. So I think a lot of waiting to look for outside funding was really trying to figure out, how are we going to take what Dylan and I really believe in, CN make that a reality, and then get traction behind that proven concept, rather than just the idea of it.

And then just dovetailing off of that is when did you really feel like you had something catching on? When did you feel like you had that product market fit and then allowed you to start seeking out outside capital?

I'm sure we have different moments, so I'm curious still, what was yours?

I would honestly say at least one of the things that stood out to me was when we did the meal madness thing and we ran this competition with local studios, and the whole idea was that, you know, whatever studio donates the most meals, you move on to the next round, and we'll throw a party for you at the end of the month. And we had, like, 1500 people download the app in, like, four days. And just in San Diego. And I was like, whoa, that's. That's kind of a big deal. And, like, and then we just started donating more and more and more, and. And, like, 14 days, we had already passed what we did in, like, two months or something like that. Like, something was something like, super, super quick. And then Covid happened and everything shut down. And that was just, like, such a gut punch. But even after that, it just kept going. And that's when I was kind of like, oh, this is like a. I feel like there's moments throughout where you kind of, like, exhale a little bit and you're like, okay, we're good now. This was the right move. And I feel like that one, even amidst kind of, like, everything shutting down and the uncertainty for it to just continue to keep growing and people to stay on it and keep using it, just that, like, is a moment that stood out for me for sure. What's yours, Sam?

I think of two, and ironically, they both kind of centralize around Thanksgiving. Two Thanksgivings ago, we launched the app in 2019. It was only in San Diego. I was at the Run for the Hungry in the Morning, and it was the first time I'd ever been at a 5K on Thanksgiving morning in my entire life, because I was just not a person who worked out. And it clicked for me, like, oh, wow, this really worked for me. Like, I'm somebody who never worked out, and now I work out. And this platform really made that possible. And that same day, we passed 20,000 workouts converted into meals, which I just thought was the wildest thing ever. Kind of watching it tick up over. It took, I think, 11 months to get to that 20,000 number. And then this Thanksgiving, we announced our national partnership with SoulCycle, and we were doing 20,000 workouts converted into meals a week. So just kind of the growth of that the first year and the growth that the second year, it just makes you wonder, like, where's it going to be next Thanksgiving and the Thanksgiving after that, and that trajectory, I think that will always be a special day when.

It was your birthday and it was my birthday.

And then that just kind of segues into the question of, like, what does growth look like going forward for you guys?

In which capacity? Like, in growth, like, let's get users on board or growth in features or growth in partnership?

Well, yeah, I'm not sure what features you want, what you want to add. That would be exciting to understand, too. Like, what do you have in store for us? But in terms of just growth in general, what are you thinking in terms of users on the app and meals donated? Do you have any goals, any metrics you're trying to hit this year?

I think the million was a big one for us just because we were at 100,000 last June. So that. That was a really big one. I think we're doing, like, around 100.

And so do you think the pandemic had a big part of that?

I think it definitely did. It was kind of like a perfect storm. I feel like you hear people talk about, like, timing being an interesting factor, and now we've got this app that all you have to do is kind of like, get 10,000 steps at home and you can Donate a meal kind of just fit perfectly with what I think people were looking for. Our growth to date's really just been organic, right? It's just been friends telling friends. It's been kind of like partnerships that we've been doing. I think we want to introduce some, like, acquisition strategies at the end of the year. But our number one thing is, like, we never want to. We never sell anything. Like, that's kind of like our thing. We don't sell anything. We just. We tell you what we're doing, we tell you what it is, and we want you to just, like, fall in love with it. And I think, like, if we can just replicate that in other cities and build out kind of like what we did in San Diego and do it in Birmingham, Alabama, do it in Manhattan, do it in, you know, Chicago, it's going to catch fire. And so I think that's really just kind of like what we're looking to do moving forward. Like, I just got back from Birmingham and we think we signed up like five or six studios. We got a few restaurants coming on board now and so doing that and, you know, the 10 top metro areas that we have on our platform I think will get us, you know, growing pretty quickly and all things considered, pretty inexpensively.

Very cool.

Yeah. And I'll add on to that, I think, kind of growing the lens of the impact. So the way that we've built the platform, we have a few opportunities. Like, we can help people with their, their own activity. We can help educate through our advisor, explore. We can once, like, events reopen, we can do local, on the ground, impact events. So when we go into a new community, figuring out what are the unique challenges here that may be different than what we know in San Diego? And how do we use our platform as a tool to make that a broader conversation in this community where we can activate our users and say, hey, why don't you come participate in this that you may not have known about before, but is right here in your backyard. And it's something that you probably should know of if it's something that you care about. So I think over the next 18 months, really localizing the impact is something that we want to do as well outside of San Diego.

And is that a feature that you have now within the app? I know that there's, there is a feature that you can pick up exercises or like local influencers. Right.

So Visor Explorer, we launched that Q4 of last year and that's just our, our response to social media growing increasingly toxic and There's a lot of, like, issues with body positivity and a lot of misinformation. And I think what we want to do is create a social media experience that is exclusively good for you content. So healthy recipes, mental health, financial wellness, that impact lens. So what are the systemic challenges impacting health and how do we start a conversation around that and just really have this full content aggregator that's all about living well and health happiness?

I love that.

That's great.

Well, and I think the community you talked about in terms of just prioritizing health and holistic health is really something that is going to be a thread and a theme as you guys continue to grow and scale. So many companies who try and get lots of users have to pay for user acquisition and you have been really able to do it. A lot of just heavy word of mouth, you know, very, very little customer acquisition cost. So can you talk a little bit about how to do that? I'm sure entrepreneurs listening to this are wondering, you know, how do you. How do you get to a million meals donated with bootstrapping? Like, it seems kind of like an oxymoron.

It's a combination of what we're doing and like, our, and the brand, like, you know, Sam specifically has a really, really, really smart when it comes to like, just branding in general. But I do think there's just a consumer sentiment that is like, looking for something like what we're doing and, and people are incentivized. The more friends I can get on, the more impact we can create. And people just like, want community. And in a time when just like, community is probably the most valued thing, this just kind of fits that hole. It's, it's easy, super simple, and it's fun at the end of the day. And I, and I think, like, when you have something like that, people want to use your product. They want to, like, be a part of it and they want to help also. I think people really resonate with just kind of like, what we're doing. And they want to help Sam and I. They want to help the people who are, you know, dedicating their lives to doing this. And so we've just been like, super thankful for that. At the end of the day, it's probably unique, right? Like, I don't know a lot of things that could get to like, the stage we're at just with, you know, word of mouth and just like some really cool partnerships and friends and family always talking about it, but that's kind of what I'm saying. It's just a combination of like the sentiment out right now. People are just really looking for something like this.

And as far as advice, because you had asked if somebody else was trying to do something similar, I think we're very product obsessed. I think that's kind of what Dylan's talking about with the branding piece of it, the app. I won't say it has always worked perfectly. There have been some syncing issues and some tech and a lot of that comes with bootstrapping, where you are facing some tech challenges. But we've always been, I think, laser focused on what we want that experience to be and how we want people to feel when they use it. And I mean everything from the colors to the word choices to the imagery, it's just very thoughtful. And I think that kind of curates that experience where people want to share it, they want to participate with it. So I think if somebody wanted to do something similar, having a similar thoughtfulness to the product they put out and just the Power of Moments I think is a really good book that talks about it. But what are areas where you can deliver customer joy or that end user experience even if you don't have a lot of money? There are actually a million. So being cognizant of that, and I.

Think one of the other things is the two of you, even though you're young and I know Sam, you kind of talked a lot about age bias and a lot of the things that you've had to overcome, but I do think that understanding your demographic is a huge advantage. And so the two of you have been able to take something that maybe people think is a disadvantage and really use it to your advantage. Because I think the people who are frequent users of your app are also very heavy on sharing on social media. And that's kind of already an action that they do. And so for the two of you to understand that world and to use it for something that benefits society, where I think a lot of times social media can be something that is destructive, is really, really smart. And you're turning these behaviors into like worthwhile behaviors instead of destructive behaviors. So working out and kind of getting. Using gamification and it's kind of a lot of these concepts that have come out over the last decade because of the Internet and apps and you're using those for good, which is really cool too.

It's definitely worked on me. I mean, I've just been using a few months. I'm up to almost 70 meals donated. But I gotta imagine there's some pretty Interesting numbers there. Like do you have some numbers around the most meals donated by one person and the longest streak as well. I'd love to hear that.

Has to be Sam or Dylan, right? I mean.

No, not at all.

No. We have two people that are. That are awesome and they live in San Diego too, Right.

There are over 400.

Wow.

But I think someone's higher. There's a gentleman that I believe total meals donated. But there is a gentleman who I don't think has missed like a day since we went live, maybe outside of like a few sinking issues. And it's just so impressive to me. I am nowhere near the top leaderboards. I remember I got to 100 the first year and the fact that I worked out like every three days was massive to me. One of our employees though, he's over. I think he just passed 300 and he heard about it a year ago yesterday. So people are very, very consistent when they're active and it's very impressive to me.

Amazing.

I'm at 362. No big deal.

360 meals donated, not streak, right?

Definitely not a streak. Now I left my Fitbit at home, so I have to take my phone with me to go do 10,000 steps, which as a segue into that is one thing we are definitely adding is like more ways to donate, making it accessible, which I'm excited for.

I have a friend outside of the app who has done, you know, more than 30 minutes of exercise now for like 400 days in a row. And I'm like, wow, you should have had this app. You know, it's just, it's. There are people out there and you really got to get the app in front of them.

We try to make it as big of a no brainer as possible. So just have the lowest barrier to entry for somebody to just come use the app. And so whether that's making it so you can just watch a workout in the app and you can take it at home, not needing like a wearable or something like that, as simple as downloading and you can donate your first meal. So it's like things like that that we because like working out as hard as is. I think one thing that we used to say is like sometimes it kind of sucks, but it's fun like when you can gamify it a little bit like this. And so we want to just make it as easy as possible.

Well, I love the accessibility. Right. I didn't even think about that, about the Explorer. For me, when I open it up, I'm like Oh, here's a cool new ab workout I didn't think about, like, oh, it's here, ready for me. I'm going to use this and this qualifies as my 30 minutes or whatever it is.

Coming soon.

Coming soon. Yes. Well, we have workouts in there already, but it will count towards being able to donate soon.

Well, it goes into my wearable and then. But that's great that it will go directly from the videos you watch within the app to your qualifying minutes. I think it's great.

I know you guys also do like corporate competitions and stuff like that, right? I think you do kind of a private leaderboard for companies that want to do it where you want to launch one for our listeners here. So we're going to do a 30 day challenge starting today when this podcast goes live. We'll do more of a self reporting with everyone. So people will put a leaderboard in the show notes where people can put in every day that they hit their meals and the top three people will get gift cards to our favorite local taco spots. Since this is Tacos and tech podcast. So we're excited to launch the Tacos and Tech 30 Day Advisor Challenge as of today.

I love it. I'm all for it. Does today count like this morning I did a workout. Does that count?

Yeah.

All right.

You got till midnight till 11:59, I think I have walked around my house at 11:00 at night being like, oh, gotta hit my 300 more steps. So I know my. I got a loop that does 100 steps. So I do that loop three times. I'm in. So I am guilty of that late night hitting the visor. But this being the talkers and tech podcast and you have so many great local food partners, we got to know everyone's here's favorite taco spots and maybe you got to do some brand shout outs. That's okay. You know, this is taco city. What's Sam starting with you? What's your favorite taco spot?

This is going to sound sponsored, but it's really not an ad. I just love Takaya, I have to say. So when we got them on and they offered a taco, that was a personal win for me, but I would say Takea is where I'd go.

So since Sam already said Takaya, which I was also going to say shout out Don Bravo's Bird Rock. So good. You get the, you get. You can get tacos or you can do a lobster burrito. They got the whole and they have Don Julio margaritas.

I Love that spot.

We're a big fan of Don Bravo's. Yeah, big fan.

I used to live down the street from there, and I miss it. It's great.

Is that your favorite too, then, Caitlin, or do you have another one?

No, actually. Well, because I'm a vegan, I'm a little more limited, but the taco shop in Encinitas, and I believe there's one down in La Jolla, which is the one that we use for regular. They have a grilled cactus taco, which is really, really, really delicious. If you have had not had grilled cactus, it's delicious. And then I just discovered this last weekend. There's a place called Death by Tequila in Carmel Valley. I don't know if you guys have heard of it. Great marketing. And actually the margaritas were amazing. But they have another vegan taco, and it's a. It's like a fried mushroom taco, and it's unlike any fried mushroom taco or mushroom taco I've ever had. It was very surprising in a good way. So it's. It's now my favorite taco for now.

So there's a taco truck that one of my friends always gets for parties, and the tortillas are handmade, and that just makes the taco phenomenal. So I'm. I'm a big tortilla fan. I don't. I actually don't even know what the. What the taco truck is called, but if I find out, I'll let you know, Neil, you can post it in the comments. And then I have to take a shout out to my cousin. Spotfish101. They've got a great fish taco.

It's a good spot.

But always the unnamed ones are the. Definitely legit. You know that. That one that sets up in the Target parking lot that only. Only shows up on Saturday afternoons. We know you. We love you. Well, thanks, guys. This was great to have you on. Love what you're doing. I'm about to go hit my steps and go donate a meal so I can catch up to Caitlin. And we hope all of you will join us in donating meals by using this great app from two local founders, Sam and Dylan. Thanks for being on.

Yeah. Thanks for having us.

Thank you.

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