Paige Finn Doherty of Behind Genius Ventures: Bringing People Together Through Investments

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Welcome to the Tacos and Tech Podcast. I'm your host, Neil Bloom, and I'm thrilled to have you here. On the Tacos and Tech podcast, we interview builders of technologies, of companies, of communities, and we do it weekly, so thanks for tuning in. Every Tuesday, a new interview, and on Fridays, we talk about what's new in the San Diego tech ecosystem from a news perspective. So make sure you join us there as well too. We also have a tech newsletter that comes out every other week@freshbroodtech.com you can subscribe to listen to it without further ado. Enjoy this episode and welcome back to the Tacos in Tech Podcast. I'm your host, Neal Bloom, and I am so thrilled to have on longtime community compatriot Paige Dougherty, the founding partner behind Genius Ventures. Hey, Paige, thanks for being on the pod.

Hey, long time listener, first time caller. Thanks for having me on, Neil.

Absolutely. I'm so stoked to have you on. My first memory is working on a database project with you and Alex.

Yeah, Alex Bates.

Alex Bates on figuring out where are all the AI investments in Southern California.

I know, which is so funny because, like, now I make, like, a decent amount of, like, AI investments across the US And Canada. So it's been cool to see how, like, different things I've done in the past have applied. And also such a fun way to get to know each Other?

Yeah, yeah, four or five years ago at least for sure was pre coat.

So yeah, I think I was a junior. Junior or senior in college?

Oh yeah, senior.

I had a car. I didn't think I got a car until my senior year, the year of senior year.

Well, you were SDSU student then, but you were doing obviously a lot then as well too, which we're going to talk about. But now you've got your own fund. Do you want to quickly tell us an overview of what Behind Genius Ventures is?

Sure, yeah. So behind Genius Ventures is an early stage venture firm focused on investing in the future of work and the future of play. As one of the youngest fund managers in the world, I seek to combine my like Gen Z insights with institutional capital and introductions to downstream capital in Silicon Valley and New York. And I love investing in things that I'm seeing come across as demographic shifts. So a lot of the things that we look at are creator tools. I'm a creator, I wrote a book and I run a podcast and I've been on Twitter and I used to run like Python bots on Instagram and so the Internet, like growing up digitally native. I think creator tools are an incredible way for people to have like more bandwidth and build businesses as creators, which we're seeing like more and more. We think a lot about holistic health and fintech. So what are the different applications that we see happening within health? I think there's a lot of opportunity within women's health specifically. Traditionally been an area underserved by capital, but in recent years we've seen many unicorns like Maiming Clinic and then also do some gaming and developer tools. Since my background's in computer science and I worked at an API startup before this.

Awesome. Really excited for what you're investing in. So I hope we get to do a deal together soon.

Yeah. Oh yeah. And then we're based in San Diego. I'm like San Diego girl through and through.

So are you born. Raised San Diego?

No, I was born in New Hampshire but we moved when I was six and I grew up in Rancho Bernardo, went to sdsu, stayed in pb, moved to north pb. Cause that's what you do as an adult, I guess.

But yeah, yeah, you try to get out of the gravitational pull of.

Once you're north of Garnett, you're good. Yeah, that's what I've heard. But I, I don't know, I teach my friends, a bunch of them live like south of Garnett, so. No, it's still nice there yeah.

You know, then at some point, crown height. Crown point. And like, oh, you really moved up there on the south side. But at sdsu, you were already involved in the VC club, weren't you?

Yeah, so I. I don't know. I did a lot at sdsu. I actually just recently got, like, a Passion Planner again, which is a planner that I had when I was at sdsu. And I think at one point I was on the board of, like, seven clubs, like Society of Women Engineers, Associate Students, Green Fest. I also really wanted to manage rappers. I thought that's what I was gonna do. I was, like, booking shows. We had this organization called Creative State that I was one of the founding members of. And so we plan, like, local music festivals. But ultimately I was like, okay, this is not really, like, the lifestyle that I wanna have super late nights, like, a lot of people party in the industry, and it's just, like, kind of challenging to sustain and, like, compound your wealth in that industry from my perspective. So I had no idea what I was going to do. And then I watched Binge Watch Silk Valley over my junior year break, and I was like, oh, whoa. I didn't realize you could do, like, venture if you weren't, like, old and rich, basically, because I saw two really strong female role models in the show. And then my friend Ryan Cohen, who was on the board of Entrepreneur Society with me, told me about this. This really cool club called vcic, which is the Venture Capital Investment Competition team, ended up being on that team. And we basically trained for the fall leading up to competition, which is in February, and took second place, the reigning national champs. And I was just, like, sold at that point. I was like, I want to do this. I want to be in this room. I want to be making investment decisions. I love talking to entrepreneurs. So then I was just kind of relentless in the pursuit of building my own firm. I had kind of set like a timeline of, like, 10 years. I was like, I want to be on Forbes under 30, I want to write a book, and I want to launch an investment firm. It ended up happening a bit faster than 10 years, but those are kind of like my three goals that I put once I decided that venture was the path I wanted to pursue. So.

Okay, well, we'll get back to what's in your current Passion Planner shortly. But so sounds like obviously one serially curious to get to know and learn what's going on. Did you get a taste of venture at all before you tried it yourself, like, on your own? Did you get into the industry A little bit. Or what was. How did you.

Yeah, I worked at a growth equity firm which was a very humbling experience. My job was basically like cold calling people that were doing between 3 and 5 million in revenue and asking them if they wanted to take capital. Like growth equity, I would say is a much more conservative investing style than early stage. And so oftentimes it's very like spreadsheet oriented. And like I would say early stage venture investing is much more. It's a blend of like art and science. But I would say growth is like a lot more science of a science than it is an art. We can chat about whether or not it's a debatable statement, but I worked at TBC Capital, so that was where I cut my teeth. I did a lot of cold calling market research. I actually researched authentication, which was really interesting because the startup I ended up working out right after school is WorkWest, which was a company that I hadn't evaluated. But it was an opportunity that I saw in terms of there was a lot of providers in the enterprise identity space, but there weren't a lot of providers. And like enterprise single sign on, which is something that's required if you're an early stage startup selling to larger B2B clients. They'll often require that you have single sign on and role based access control and directory sync. And so I did some market research there and then I also learned vba which was really fun. I made like a macro to track recurring revenue. So I worked there from. It's like August of 2019. I actually got the job through VCIC. I was like applying and getting rejected to all these firms in the Valley. And then Michael Sprinkles from TVC reached out and at first I thought it was like a spam email because I was like, what? Who is this? And then he was like, oh, I did vcic. Like would love to chat with you about any opportunities that you're looking at this summer. Ended up working there until around the new year and that was like the new year of 2020. And by that point I was like super interested in ventures, applying for positions. I ended up getting a, an analyst position at a Boston based firm called Open View that specializes in products like growth B2B SaaS companies. And I ended up getting down to the wire deciding I was gonna do it. And then I was like, you know what, I'm gonna wait one more day. Like if there's gonna be a sign that maybe this is the right position, you know, I'm like open to that and the next day Kobe died. And all of social media was like out, like just an outpour of like how much he had meant to his family and his legacy. And I was. It just like gave me a really good time of reflection where I was like, oh, actually like I really want to value my family and be close them and build, you know, a career that reflects my values in that way. And so I ended up deciding to stay in San Diego. I have no job offers on the table. It was like February of my senior year and I was like, frick, like what am I going to do? All my friends are like getting these massive six figure jobs like Google. I was like computer science. So everyone was like comparing equity packages in class. And I was like, oh frick. I just turned down my one job offer I got and then Covid hit, which was crazy in the midst of my senior year. And then I ended up just being at home in my like childhood home and being on Twitter. Cause that was kind of my only outlet for learning about venture. And just like being young, for lack of a better term, like young and dumb. I was like, oh, I can ask all these dumb questions because like I have the right to like I'm new to this industry. So that was really fun. And that led to me meeting, meeting great folks that ended up becoming like early investors in our fund and, and started to write the children's book. So I was kind of my senior year of college.

It was a busy, busy pandemic for you for sure, emotionally and then personally for sure. When did you actually write your first check as an investor?

I wrote my first check as an investor in November of 2020 in a company called Pallet. I met the founder through this company, Community. There's a company called Community. Com and it allows you to do like text, text based marketing. And I was like texting people updates on Seed to Harvest, which is the children's book that I wrote about venture. And he just messaged me and he was like, hey, I would love to like pick your brain on community and content. And it's funny now because those are like the two cornerstones of our find and like what we support founders most often on. And I was like, yeah, sure would love to chat about those things. I was working at the startup at the time and I just remember like our first call, I was working remotely in Tulum and there was like a hurricane going on. So my Internet was, was like so spotty and he was cutting in and out. And I just remember getting so excited about this company that they wanted to build that would be like the next LinkedIn and orients around job boards and online creators. And I was like, oh, yeah, like, this is it. This is like where I want to put my name on. I had, like, no connections in Silicon Valley, really. Like, before that point, I had like, the folks that followed me on Twitter. And so I sent a message out to, like, some of the Twitter folks that I talked to, like, really often. I was like, hey, I have this really interesting opportunity. I'd love to invest in it. You know, would you be interested in putting some money into a round? I, like, didn't even know what an SVP was at that point. And so I ended up raising around 60k in under 2 weeks. That was like my first check that I wrote as a syndicate lead. And then it's been pretty insane since then. But guys, we ended up reinvesting into his seed. That was his pre seed that I let us indicate into. He ended up reinvesting through our first find in his seed and then led like an LP only SPV into his latest equity round with Valor, and now he's an LP in my fund too. So.

Awesome. Great story.

Yeah, it's been really cool to see that relationship develop. And I have such fond memories of how we kind of have grown up within this industry together because he graduated from college the same year I had as well. So.

Wow, that's really cool. Really, for me to see it come full circle too.

Definitely.

And I just got an update with Pallet, I think, a few weeks ago. It's pretty cool to see where their product has gone as well, in terms of running communities for influencers or brands.

Yeah, they've been like, crushing it. And I think especially since they pivoted to talent collectives, which in my eyes is like more anonymous. And you don't necessarily have to be an online creator to have a really talented community of folks who might be looking to make a switch in like six to six months to a year has really opened up their market. So, yeah, I'm stoked about what they're building.

Yeah, really cool. Well, that's syndicate you had. Did you even have the idea of your own fund, like, in mind when you did that, or.

I was kind of noodling on it. I didn't know what an SPV was. I wanted to start my own investment firm. That was a goal that I had written down in August of 2019. And so I was kind of like working towards that. I was like, asking more people about how they did it. And it was around the same time that I met my partner in my first fund, Josh. I actually got introduced to him around the same time of the Palad sbv, because he was working on a recruitment recruiting company. And then he had run a couple SPVs as well. So someone who ended up becoming an LP of ours introduced us and we just got along famously. And he pitched me on joining bgv. He had, like, a few initial investors. And we sat down six feet away from each other with masks on at the, like, sitting at, like, Heisler park in Laguna and, like, chatted through, because he's in la, so it's like halfway and chatted through what it would look like to run a venture firm together. And then from that point on, just executed on that vision for the next year, which was probably one of the craziest years of my life, for sure.

Really, what was going on.

I mean, it was like I hadn't raised money before that first syndicate. So to go from that to raising $5 million for a venture fund and investing in 30 companies was just such a dramatic change in pace. And then also making the transition to leaving my job, going full time on the fund, like, truly being an entrepreneur for the first time, it was scary. Like, it was good, but it was, like, definitely scary. And I think as human beings, we're used to being in a state, or our bodies are kind of like, they want to stay in a state of homeostasis. So, like, any change that you have, you can have adjustment shock where you'll feel feelings of, like, anxiety and tension, even if there are really positive changes going on within your life. So I think that. And it was also, like, really scary to take other people's. Like, I remember we had raised, like, 1.6 million for our first close. And I remember just, like, being, like, on the floor in my apartment, like, oh, my God, this is so much responsibility. Like, what did I just do? And I think, like, I'm really happy that I had that when I. When we had just raised 1.6 million. And I got some really good advice from a mentor of mine that the way that you manage, you know, whatever amount of money it is, like a thousand dollars, $10,000 is the same way that you'll manage, you know, millions one day. And so it's. It's just really about finding an investing style that works for you and. And, like, having faith in yourself. And I think that's, like, challenging as a young person because, you know, still trying to, like, find yourself and all that.

True.

Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, everything was kind of learned by doing it seemed like, you know, talk about.

Yeah, it was definitely trial by fire.

Yeah.

Yeah. I definitely consider myself like a community top venture capitalist. And I was like reading everything. I still am reading everything I can get my hands on. So. Yeah. And I always love helping like other emerging fund managers as well, going through that. I think there's like so many things where you get into it and you're like, I've literally never heard of this before. And you're like, I don't want to pay my lawyers like hundreds of dollars an hour to explain it to me. So I'm just going to try and find another fund manager who's been through this before. So I've really enjoyed giving back because I got so much from this community when I was starting out.

Yeah. And it turns out fund managers are really open to sharing.

Yeah, definitely. I would say. I think this industry is very inclusive. As you say, start to get started and then you're like, you have like, questions where you're like, no, actually I need to know this right now. Cause I have to make this decision like yesterday.

Yeah. Do you have a go to blog either post you wrote or one you read or share with people who are like, you're about to go on this journey. Here's the first few blogs you should read right now.

Yeah. I wrote an emerging managers FAQ doc that I've shared and I. I liked it. Cause it was like a. It's a collaborative Google Doc. So like, people are also filling in what their experiences were with fund managers. And it can be like radically different. Like if you have a single LP who's like funding your entire commitment, but might have a lot of input on what you choose to invest in, versus if you have no connections starting out like me, and you're raising money from like 120 investors from scratch, it's like you're gonna face like a very different set of challenges. And then it's kind of like thinking about, like, people tell you that you have to have all these things, but what do you like actually need to get to first close on a venture fund? So that doc walks through. Through folks different experiences and that. And then I wrote a cold email post. It's called the. I think it's an essential guide to cold outreach on my blog that I feel like I wrote in 2020 and it still rings true today on how to write really thoughtful cold outreach emails. Because the bar's super low. People send like really bad cold emails. And like, I'VE definitely sent like a few formulaic ones, so I. I can't like, touch too hard, but I think like a thoughtful, cold email goes a really long way. So I. I go back to that one a lot.

Awesome. We will link to both in the show notes for sure, as well as your social which you've mentioned.

Paige finn with 3ns on Twitter and then seed to harvest on TikTok. I've been doing TikTok a lot more because I feel like I can be myself. Slash. I don't know. Twitter got very professional for me once I got past like 10k followers. I'm not like 32,000 and it just feels like I don't know everyone anymore. So I get kind of nervous posting there. But TikTok, I have like 45 followers and I'm just like posting fun videos about what it's like to open an office and the locksmith's not there and like, or just like how we make our merch. Like sweatshirts that I'm wearing right now, like how I think about making those and just like adding delight into my work.

So I love it.

Yeah.

Well, we'll make sure we give it a follow as well. For your 46. You wrote a book. What was it like writing a book?

Hard. Everyone tells you it's going to be hard, but it was honestly such a fabulous experience. I've been thinking about writing my next one actually, a lot. And I've been curious to, like, explore, you know, going the more traditional route of getting an agent and going through a publisher. I ended up self publishing my first book. So kind of the process was I had an idea. I was like, I think this is an awesome idea. And then I ended up crowdfunding to raise money for an illustrator. My brother ended up illustrating the book. I did a bunch of test pages, people on Fiverr. And then my brothers ended up being better than all of theirs. So I worked with him. The process took about six months to write. And so this was like, I would write, like, I wrote like 20 pages and then I sent it to like 80 people. They sent me back paragraphs and paragraphs of feedback. Like, I so deeply appreciate the amount of time and effort that other people put into building Seed to Harvest. It was like, for sure a community effort. And then my friend, who is actually like an LP of mine in, in this most recent fund, ended up helping me with the formatting for it. It's a pain in the butt to format things for Amazon, like Kindle Direct Publishing. It's like really Annoying. But he helped me through that, and then I ended up publishing it, and now it sold, like, over 1250 copies. Yeah, it's been crazy. It's in, like, all sorts of different countries and continents. And I still, to this day, I'm, like, so surprised by the amount of people that have it. They'll, like, hop on a call and, like, hold up the book. I'm like, oh, it's so cool. Like, I've given them to a bunch of our LPs, and I'll go visit their offices and, like, see the book. I'm like, oh, that's so cute. Love that. But, yeah, I think it was, like, one of those things where I just continued to take the next step. And similar to, like, any other project, there's a lot of moving parts. And so I was just trying to unblock myself on, like, every next part, whether that was getting a barcode or whether that was, you know, figuring out the formatting or, like, and then reaching out to my community for help in areas where I was like, I'm totally in over my head on this one. But, yeah, it's been, like, such an incredible project to release. And I know I always wanted to write a book when I was younger. I didn't foresee it being a children's book about venture capital for sure, but I've been a writer for that. You know, that's. That's, like, really what I see myself as.

Yeah. I mean, it seems like what you do is you learn, and as soon as you learn something, you synthesize it and put it back out as content.

Which, yeah, pretty much that's been, like, my whole thing. I was always, like, the girl in my computer science. I was started out as mechanical engineering, but I was always the girl asking, like, dumb questions, and everyone would kind of laugh me. I'd be like, joke's on you guys. Because I understand understand it now, even though I embarrass myself. So I feel like I've just taken that attitude to anything that I've done, whether it's, like, publishing a book or running a venture fund.

I love that. That's awesome. Well, shout out to mechanical engineer. That's where I started as well, too. Sdsu, as in freshman year and mechanical engineer, too.

Oh, yeah. That's awesome. Did you take Terry's ME101 class?

Yes, I did. I'm pretty sure I remember that.

Shout Out Terry.

Yep. It was cad and it was Terry for sure are my memories.

I love that.

Yep. Well, obviously, we're both not doing as much engineering these days, but I know you still find you're drawn to that engineer as a founder or where do you look?

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think a lot about, like, systems engineering. I think that's definitely still the framework that I think about things. My dad is a mechanical engineer, and I feel like I've always appreciated. And then my mom's an artist, so I always, like, blended that engineer and art combination. I feel like that comes through really strongly in the work that I do. Yeah, I work in a technical field, but I want to translate that from an artistic perspective. And I also think a lot about storytelling, and so much of storytelling is about, like, how do you engineer the narrative to fit the hero's journey and resonate most with folks? So, yeah, I would say, like, I still feel like. I know I've been doing a lot of DIY projects around the house, which is making me feel like a lot like engineer. I'm like, oh, here's how we do the putty. The drywall anchors. And then you got to do the trim like this. And I was like, oh, shit has come back. Yeah, drywall anchors are still my nemesis.

Is though, you'll master. There'll be a new blog post or book a page on how to.

How to use drywall anchors.

Maybe more for, like, how to set up your first office. Maybe there'll be book two, which.

Oh, my God, I just want to say it. Shout out to my broker, first of all, like, use a broker if you're looking for an office space. I didn't the first time, and I literally, like, submitted the whole thing by myself. And then my broker, who I started working with. Fabulous. I loved working with Sam, but he was just like. He just started laughing when I told him that, and I was like, this is not a good reaction. And it ended up taking, like, a round. I remember I'm like, very much like a manifestation. Like, write goes down, they'll happen person. I had sent myself an email reminder from April 16th. It was like, office with Breville espresso maker. And I like, always add really specific things to them. And so I got a reminder last week, and I was like, oh, shit, I'm getting my keys this week. Just need the reville. So anyone has a used reville, they want to please slide into my Twitter dms. But, yeah, I think that's been, like, a big learning process and something I can take to founders as well when they're, like, thinking about that process. Because, yeah, I am super excited. I think, like, physical things have Spiritual weight. So I'm stoked to build out physical roots in San Diego.

Yes. Well, we're excited to come co work alongside you.

Yeah.

Share some deal flow, maybe bring some founders and do some office hours. All the above would be great to do together.

I would love.

How did you know you were ready for fun too? And was it immediate or just to talk yourself into doing another one?

I mean it is pretty immediate. If you are an investor and you have no money to invest, that's pretty, that's a pretty immediate one. But now, I mean I just, I loved fun one. Like I loved investing. I love seeing the progress that founders made. I loved being like the person that they would like text or call when they had questions about like community and content and like helping them through tough times. And I think even more so as I've grown bgb, I've resonated strongly with the struggles that an entrepreneur goes through in building their business as I've encountered different, you know, situations or hard things. And I think I've just like really enjoyed the journey and I'm excited to continue doing that and building out the team. So I, I coach the VCIC team at SDSU now and I hired Riley Jennings as my chief staff at bgb and so I've really enjoyed growing my team. And I don't know, I think like a lot about legacy and I think that I didn't really see like the early stage venture firm that I wanted to see in San Diego and I really wanted to have strong state school sdsu. Like I really wanted, want our school to become like a powerhouse for venture and I just wish that I had had the opportunity when I was in school to have a stronger alumni base because I do think it makes like a difference. So just like putting down roots in San Diego, making sure the local community is integrated into the work that we're doing and providing really great returns for lp. So I don't know, I'm like, I'm loving the ride. So it was like it's, it was too fun to stop.

I love it. That's awesome. Well, I've been hanging out at Zip Launchpad every other Friday. If you want to come hang out, we can do some co working at zips on Fridays.

Oh, cool.

Together. Yeah, I do. I give like two hours of office hours to the current zip teams in either L1 or L2.

Oh, that's awesome.

Yeah, so it's been fun to see SDSU and now they're have tech stars this year coming up, which is amazing. And A whole new like innovation campus over by Snapdragon.

So yeah, I think it's going to be crazy. I still remember like voting on the Snapdragon station, which is, oh yeah, pretty crazy to see it come to life now for sure.

What are you manifesting this year? You said you brought out the book to write out.

Yeah, I'm manifesting delight, I think. I spent so much time like trying to live up to others expectations and I really wanted to light our founders, our investors, our co investors, my team, but most importantly like my inner child and my future self. I really want to like delight those two entities and I think that'll like resonate with my present self. So I think delight and then yeah, I've been noodling on my next book. Okay, so we'll see. Well, yeah, we'll see about that one. Excited?

Very cool. Well, yeah, we're excited that you've planted roots here, obviously besides having an office. You got to eat, you got to have tacos.

You got a favorite taco spot Oscars immediately.

Absolutely. Npb Best of each.

Yeah, the OG one.

Yes. Where there's always a line. Also, what's your order?

My order is the ceviche, of course, guac and chips. Depending on if I'm eating with friends, I'll get guac and chips. If not, two battered fish tacos. If you go between like two and four, I think they're like 99 cents extra green sauce.

Oh yeah. Nice. Yeah, that's what the smart people order. I love it. Well, Oscars is already in our taco database because as you know, it is.

Because it should be exactly. Yeah.

Probably in our top five most, most mentioned place easily.

Wait, what are the other five? The taco stand.

I'm assuming number one is taco stand.

Has Rigoberto's made it in?

No, not. But if you add up all the different Bertos, you know, then yes, you'll.

Get one in there.

City tacos is a constant favorite as well too.

Honestly. Puesto slaps in La Jolla. I feel like that's going to be working its way. It's a bit more bougie. Like I feel like Oscars is like down to earth taco. Puesto is like, ooh, I'm a dress up a little bit taco.

Exactly. Going out taco as opposed to the any time of day taco for sure. I think you get a lot of the classic. More of like the tacos. El Gordo gets mentioned a lot. So yeah, the, you know, my. The one that has never been mentioned that I've been waiting for is sombreros, which was. I got into the day my first day at sdsu. It's over.

Yeah. No one said ponchos or trujillos.

Nope. We haven't had Aztecs on. No. We've had Cody. We've had Luke.

Disrespectful.

I know. Or the original ponchos, for sure. Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

But no, I was a true heel girl. Okay.

They were creative. All right, I hear you.

Well, I was a sombreros guy. That was my first love of the California burrito. Understanding that you can put French fries in your burrito was just mind blowing. Day one, freshman year.

That's the chef's kiss. I haven't had a California burrito in so long. That sounds so good.

All right, well, we're meeting up for that, and it's great to have you on the podcast page and really excited for you to continue investing here in town.

Thank you. I so appreciate it. Thanks so much for having me on, Neil. This was a pleasure.

Likewise. Cheers. Take care.

All right, take care.

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