
In a brief interview, Speaker A answers a question about how a person in their 20s who wants to leave engineering can find direction. He explains that the common phrase “follow your passion” is often misunderstood; the word “passion” originates from the Latin for suffering, as in the Passion of Christ. He reframes the question to ask, “What are you willing to suffer for?” suggesting that the activities you’re prepared to endure hardship for are the ones worth investing energy in, because that willingness predicts greater effort and success. He then advises aligning one’s personal ideology and worldview with the work or brand they choose, noting that congruence between how you see the world and how a brand or organization sees it increases the likelihood of a meaningful connection. He references his own writing on the topic, indicating that these ideas are elaborated in his book.










