It took me a long time to learn that there is an art to conversation! #communication #conversation

When I was younger, not only was I not a reader, but I also had very poor communication skills. I mean, I had diagnosed anxiety. I would leave the classroom if I had to read a paragraph in front of everybody. I would stay home sick from school and present to the teacher after school. I mean, I had a lot of social anxiety. Books like this can really help somebody understand there is an art to conversation. It's not just this gray area, something that you can learn.

But so it's funny, Nicholas, because I speak to college students twice a year up at a university in New York, and I actually do a lecture for different classes. And these are communication classes. And a lot of it is how you need to be within the workplace and a lot of the ways and how you could work on communicating. So there are actual things that were written in Speakeasy that came from a bunch of those lectures in helping students know how they could have better conversations. And what I wanted to make it about was, look, you cannot map out the perfect conversation. You can't plan it and, you know, get from the beginning A to Z on a straight line. There's so many different ways that every conversation can go, but what you can control