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11 Dec 2025 · 4 min

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This is a short podcast episode by Nir Eyal (Near & Far) discussing the challenge of designing products and experiences that encourage people to perform behaviors they know are good for them but avoid (e.g., recycling, exercise, voting). The episode uses a Stanford cafeteria recycling anecdote to show how confusing interfaces can shame users and create a form of learned helplessness the host calls the “it's me, not you” effect. Eyal contrasts harmful design that reduces users' agency with empowering design (example: iPad apps that enable simple, singular tasks) and argues designers share responsibility when users fail to act; designers should instead increase users' ability to accomplish desired actions.

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