Health & Wellness: Your Relationship With Yourself To Attract Love with Dr. Paul Savage
7 Dec 2025 · 41 min
This podcast episode (recorded Dec 20, 2024) features host Kim Seltzer interviewing Dr. Paul Savage MD about how physical health, hormones and environmental toxins affect self-esteem, dating and overall well-being. Dr. Savage shares his personal transformation from an overweight, overworked ER trauma physician with low testosterone to an integrative-medicine advocate who founded BodyLogic MD (built ~50 centers), developed health software, and now runs MDLifespan. He describes using testosterone therapy (reported drop from 98 ng/dL to clinical improvement; 70 lb fat loss and 30 lb muscle gain over seven months), and a multi-step detoxification protocol centered on therapeutic plasma exchange plus lifestyle, supplements and chelation to remove persistent toxins and reduce chronic inflammation. Practical takeaways: test toxins, improve home air/water/cleaning-product choices, address hormones and nutrition, and seek social/support resources for behavioral change.
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December 20, 2024.
BodyLogic MD — about 50 centers (built in ~four years).
mdlifespan.com (promo code/landing: Kimmy).
Reported losing 70 pounds of fat and gaining 30 pounds of muscle in seven months; baseline testosterone reported as 98 ng/dL.
A health software system with ~1.6 million lines of code and about 6 million users by sale (~8 years later).
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Hey. Hey, everyone. This is the charisma Quotient. I'm your host, Kim Seltzer, a dating and makeover expert, where I will help you build confidence, make connections, and find love from the outside in.
There is a quote we hear all the time by Deion Sanders. If you look good, you feel good. And I actually didn't know the second part of this quote actually, which is if you feel good, you play good, and if you play good, they pay good. And I would add, and you, if you flirt good, you date good. And I love this on so many levels, especially with how it relates to dating. And think about it, when you feel physically great, your confidence naturally improves and you project more positivity. You have better energy and you feel more attractive and all the essential factors in how you connect with others. But on the flip side, when your health is suffering, it can take a serious toll on your self esteem, leading to insecurities. That many, many of that stuff holds you back in your love life. And moreover, toxins disrupt health, particularly hormone imbalance and mental clarity, which are cruc maintaining confidence and positive self image in individuals, especially over 40. But quite honestly, everybody, now I remember I was working with a client and, you know, I did my quintessential makeover. She definitely needed, you know, to gain her sexy confidence. We did a makeover with her clothes. I worked on her body language. I helped develop a dating plan to put herself out there. We really got her flirt on. Like everything was great, yet she found that she was really low energy a lot of times. And then, you know, in a lot of our coaching calls come to find out that she's really, she has been suffering through menopause a lot and it was affecting weight gain, her body image, her energy levels, all of that. So I referred her obviously to a naturopath and just to see if she could get a little bit more information about it. And lo and behold, as she started like working on some of this stuff, it all started synthesizing. Her energy went up, she started feeling better. She was, you know, excited to date because it was so hard for her. She's like, I don't understand. Like, I'm excited intellectually, but my body's not. And it wasn't just mental. So, you know, the, the mind, body connection obviously is huge. And I'm happy to report she's dating up a storm and happy as can be. I think I created a monster out of her. She's like a flirt queen now. But dating can be a source of stress and energy and anxiety and affect your physical, mental well being. So it's important to look at the connection. So with me today, I'm so excited about this amazing gu. He is going to help me explain how taking control of your health, whether that's through balancing hormones, improving sleep or enhancing nutrition, can elevate your self image and empower you to date with more confidence and authenticity. I can't wait for you to hear more about his story. I'll just tell you a little bit about him. At 37 years old, he was a successful ER trauma physician, but he was unhealthy. He's going to tell a story a little bit. He weighed like 270 pounds, he smoked cigarettes, blah blah, blah. Have him tell you the rest and, and rejecting the conventional approach of more medication that he was told to do as curiosity and determination led him to explore various treatments and lifestyle changes and transform his life and career through the precision of medicine. And 25 years later, he's an advocate for combining traditional and integrative medicine, focusing on an evidence based approach that treats patients as partners. I love that. And he embraces a continuous pursuit of knowledge and integration of the latest medical advancements into the practice. And he's built over 50 clinics and, and, and he keep, he keeps on going. He's just doing so much and he was the founder of CEO of MD Lifespan. You can look him up. I'm sure you've heard of him and I'm just going to have him tell you the rest because he's just a ball of information, energy and he's just awesome. Welcome. Dr. Savage, are you there?
Thank you, Kimmy. Yep, I'm all here.
Hello. Well, you know, I felt weird telling your story because like we started talking off air about your story. I'm like, wait, hold on. And wait till the podcast because you have, there's so many layers. So, I mean, I would love for you to start with kind of what I started with in your bio about your story and what got you into all this?
Well, you know what got me into all this is growing up. I mean, grew up in a small Midwest town, gay, got kicked out by my family, went to college, put myself through college and alcoholism runs through my family. And as I got more stressed and alcoholics started rearing its face. But you're just a heavy drinker at that point. My point of this is then I went on to become a trauma doctor and one of the largest trauma centers in the world at that time. And I was the nighttime guy and I had that position for many Many different years in various different ers as well. And one day I woke up and I wasn't feeling well. I went back to my doctor for the umpteenth time and not feeling well. And he was putting me on my seventh pill. Now, because at this point, I'm overweight, I can't sleep, I have depression, I have high cholesterol, I'm pre diabetic, you know, all these checklists. And he's like, well, you know, here's your seventh medicine I want you to start taking. And I said, I don't want to do that anymore. I said, it's not making me better. He goes, paul, seriously, you're the most unhealthy patient I have. You're overweight, you smoke, you drink, you work too much, you don't play enough. Why don't you just go get healthy? Why don't you just eat better and exercise and drop some of the weight? I went out of this office and walking down the. And I did show you this. This is a picture of me. That's my last year picture in the East. Now, if it looks like it's creased and folded, because as I walked out of the er, I was so disgusted, I folded it and threw it in the trash. And one of my nurses pulled it out, ironed it out, and said, I know you're going to want that someday, because I don't have any pictures of me from back in that day. And later on, 20 years later, she sent it to me after I'd built some centers. But I went home and my background is mathematics, computers, actuarian. I did theology before I became a doctor. But I say I can figure this out because I realized I had no idea where to start. We are not taught anything about health and wellness or about prevention. We're just talk, okay, they have hypertension. Give them this medicine. And that's very, very true. Everybody says no. We're also taught about these other things. 2%, maybe the other 95% is all pharmacology and, you know, all those different things. And I went home and I got a trainer, and he was the gold junior Olympic winner. And I got a nutritionist who was very well known, and I followed their instructions for six months, and I gained 13 pounds of fat in that six months. And I went, this is. This is impossible. So I went back to my doctor and talked to him again. He goes, you just need to eat better and exercise more. And that's where the bell went off, where I said, you know what? I've Been saying that to people in the emergency room for 10 years. Just go eat. You just need to eat better and do more. And then I realized I'm doing that. I know I'm doing it right. There's something else going on here. So I'm working in the gym with my trainer and this bodybuilder comes by and I'm moaning about I can't get this way. And the guy looks up to me and this is 1998. And he looks at me, goes, you need testosterone. You know, I was like, oh, dude, that's dangerous. Gives you prostate cancer and heart disease and, you know, all these blood clots and, oh, we don't do that. But I thought more about it and then I realized I had all the symptoms. I couldn't put on muscle, I couldn't lose fat, I had no energy. I. I hadn't even thought about sex or dating for five years. It didn't even occur to me that I hadn't had an erection in five years. I mean, that's how consumed I was. All this. And just. And I was like, I got low testosterone. So I ordered the test, I got it back, and you know what? I had no idea how to interpret it. I'd never been trained on how to interpret a testosterone level. I was like, what's normal? I was at 98, which I can tell you now this, like, I love to get in 90 year olds and I'm 38. I didn't even know about pretestosterone or Epstein cortisol, all these different things. I went to my endocrinologist, I said, you got to give me testosterone. He goes, we can't do that. That's illegal. I said, what do you mean it's illegal? He goes, it's been banned by the doctors. It's in the Anti Steroid act because that's how they catch bodybuilders and throw them in jail. Because nobody's supposed to have prescription. The only way you can have a testosterone prescription is if you had an orchectomy, your testicles removed because you had a cancer, or you had a severe head injury where you couldn't make any more, otherwise you can't have it. I walked out of his office. I was like, excuse me if I said, bullshit, I'm going to find it because there's a black market, right? Because I was desperate. I was desperate. I was going to do whatever I had to do. And I was. That's that medical intuitism or intuition. When you suddenly hear something, you realize something you're like, that's what's going on here. That's what's going on here. Long story short, there is some people who are doing testosterone they were getting around to. And eventually we all actually got the testosterone out of the anti steroid act. But back then, there was a conference. I went to it, I learned about it, I started giving myself testosterone. Seven months later, I'm down 70 pounds of fat. I'm up 30 pounds of muscle. The lights have come back on. My depression has gone away, my blood pressure has gone away, my diabetes has gone away, my weight has gone down. I mean, it was just all of a sudden I was like, what the hell? This is crazy. I'm going to go do this. There must be a lot of other guys out there like me that need this. And I decided in 2000 that I was going to leave the emergency room and head out and open up a clinic. And I opened up a clinic. And on six weeks into it, Suzanne Summers, who you may remember from Three's Company, and she's a wonderful, awesome woman, walked in my office. My. My office manager goes, suzanne Summers here. I was like, the thigh. The thigh master woman. I'll have her come in. And she sat down and she was very nice. And she goes, listen, I know you're doing men and men hormone. I said, am. She goes, but the women need it for their menopause, including testosterone. She goes, you're doing it wrong. I said, how so? She goes, you take care of the women, they'll bring their husbands. And I say, you know what? You're absolutely right. It's probably the single best piece of advice, business advice I had. Anyway, I learned about the female hormones from some of the other mentors that I've had through the years. And I built that into 50 centers in about four years. And it was called Body Logic MD. And then at that point, I wanted to go build a software system because I wanted to collect the data. The only way to get stuff into traditional medicine, they wanted to know the numbers. And that's my thing, right? That's my thing. So I went out and talked to my business partner. He didn't want to do it. So I left that company and I went out and programmed my own computer program with 1.6 million lines of code, and then launched that on the market. And by the time I sold that about eight years later, we had about 6 million people on it, all looking at their health. And also, so during this whole spree, my eyes were opened in such a way because I Learned there's a whole bunch of testing companies out there that do amazing things that you can't get through insurance. And there's all these therapies. I mean, supplements do work. Now, 95% of the supplements on the open market are crap and you shouldn't buy them. But there are those that actually do work. And they do work well, because every drug is based on a vitamin, pretty much, or herb. And there are hormones at work and people are like, oh, they're dangerous. And now 20 years later, we're vindicated by guess what? The women who got the natural estrogens and progesterone had lower rates of breast cancer, lower rates of Alzheimer's, lower rates of osteoporosis, and the guys who got testosterone had lower rate of prostate cancer, lower. I mean, it's like we were right. Because how can something that your body makes naturally to energize and build your body up end up being bad for you? And when you lose it, it's kind of like you lose oil pressure and, and the engine doesn't run as well. I always tell people your health, including dating and interacting with life, is like a 12 wheeled semi. Every wheel has to be moving in the same direction at the same speed, otherwise it doesn't go well. And when you lose your hormones, everything starts bumping. When your nutrition goes bad because either A, we've lost the nutrition in our food, or B, you have a stomach issue where you're not absorbing, or C, you have microbiome that isn't working, or D, you have things in your body that are preventing those things from working. There are so many different ways that nutrition can go wrong, but we can fix every single one of them if we know what's going on. But that's not something traditional medicine do. I always laugh when people tell me I have bad problems with my gut. It's microbiome and it's my leaky gut. So I went to my gastroenterologist. They don't do that. They're the gut guys. But they don't know that you have this whole organ in there. They do, but they don't treat it. But that's what the napripacid taught me in 20 years. So, you know, you come to see me and we're going to talk about your hormones, but we're also going to talk about your nutrition and your stress management and your sleep and your nutrients and your microbiome, because all those wheels have to be addressed. And then on top of all of that, there is science out there that is available today that we can predict or we can actually measure cancer in people today with just a blood test. There's a test that you can do now to see if you have Alzheimer's, confirm you have Alzheimer's. There's a cardiac test that you can do that's very easy, very slow money that shows you if you have heart disease. I'm an ODR doctor, trust me. I can't tell you how many times in three o' clock in the morning the 40 year old came out, came through and he might have been a little overweight, usually definitely smoking, but not always clutching his chest, having a big heart attack. And I'm just sitting there going, he's going to lose 30%, 40% of the muscle function if we, you know, and even I was just angry because why aren't people out there waving the flags in front of these guys? Because if you did a calcium scan and you had a high calcium score, it's a $200 test. You can get some places for 50 bucks. Then you know, you need to go see someone because something's going on there because it's not about your cholesterol, it's about how much damage has been done.
I'm going to stop you for a second because there's so much juicy stuff in here and I don't want to forget it and lose it. And I actually want to go back to your story and then we'll kind of get into more of the cool stuff that's going on and what we can do to better ourselves. First of all, thank you for your vulnerability with your story. And it's fun. I was laughing to myself because similar to you, like, we all have our own adversity that ends up being gifts in disguise. And that's what drives us. Right?
I love it that you said that. Because the most painful parts of my life have ended up being the best.
Part of my life, 100%. And you don't see it at the time until you go through it back, right? And you're like, oh, that's why, you.
Know, the first time you stub your toe at 18 and then time when 25, but when you hit 45, as I did, and everything crashes and then suddenly out of it you become this different person because that was the thing that needed to break. Sometimes you need to break shit sometimes.
Oh, a lot of times you need a break shift and NLP terms, right? Like, and I think that what's so interesting and crucial and even like meta to what we're talking about because it does relate to dating. It's like when you finally like hit that pain point where you're like, okay, something is not working. I'm the common denominator. You know, we can't change the people around us. All we can do is look at ourselves and get a different result. That's what drives people to do something even about their dating life. And it relates to all this stuff. And you know what I was also kind of chuckling about is the notion of sometimes like we can help everybody else with the issue and the very thing that we're so good at helping others with, we suck at.
Right. Like, and I, and as a there I throw myself under the bus all the time. I was the worst dater ever. When I got divorced, I was like dating as a therapist. It was awful. I put everyone on the couch. I'm like, that ain't sexy, you know. And so. Yeah. But what I was curious about, I want to take you back to the moment where you're talking about your dating life and how is affecting like, you know, your sex life and hormones. What was also going on mentally? Because you talked a lot about the physical aspect, but how did it affect your self esteem and confidence?
So, you know, that's part of the growing up gay, being displaced at an early age forward. You're just running on fear and anger.
Right.
That's what drives you. You know, where am I going to get my next meal? How am I going to survive? And I'm pissed off at everything that happened and that drove me through medical school to graduate near the top of my class and then become one of, you know, emergency room doctors, one of the largest trauma centers in the world. On the night shift was all that stuff all that fear of not having enough or. And so that's what drove me the entire time.
Yeah, yeah. Well, and then. And how that drove you to be successful and you know, like obviously the medical world.
Yeah.
But like physically, emotionally, physically, emotionally a mess. Mentally successful.
Yeah, yeah. And so emotionally then how did that affect your dating life?
Well, as I mentioned, you know, in the last five years of the emergency room, I didn't date.
Yeah.
I mean I was just work, work, go to bed, go to bed at 8 o', clock, 9 o' clock in the morning, get up at 4 o' clock in the afternoon, go do some, whatever I had to do during the day, hop in the car, get back to the emergency room. And I was a workaholic because that was my life. I just, that was it. I mean it rarely. Rarely took time away from work. And that was another big problem because a lot of that was me not wanting to deal with me and my issues and my anger and my fear. And I was not, you know, I wasn't somebody who I liked either at that point. So that's another reason why I didn't want to date is because I didn't like who I was. And I didn't like how I was grouchy and cranky and snappy and, you know, and I would have. I had this very sarcastic sense of humor, which I understand now is what we grew up with. But it's terrible, terrible. You know, it's like you said, you're putting everybody on the couch during dating. And I was just. I was being my dad on every date early on, you know, sarcastic humor, I think, Ouch, that hurts. And what do you mean? That's just a joke. And so it's just kind of all that stuff, it just kind of piled up, piled up, piled up. The testosterone did a lot on unwinding, some of that. Because testosterone is your strength. It's your emotional, it's your mental, your spiritual, your sexual strength. And when you don't have it, you don't. You just don't have it. And, you know, it's really hard to control your temper. I have women whose testosterone low. One of the things that women complain about most, besides low libido, is that they don't sleep well. And the other thing is they snap at everything and snap. What I mean is, sometimes you go into a movie and, doc, I never used to cry at these movies. And don't cry. These are women who are like CEOs and are like, they're being puddled because of these things. Or somebody comes in the room, like, they're kidding. What do you want? And they're like, oh, I didn't mean to do it. And everybody's like, oh, that's hormonal. Yeah. But a lot of that's testosterone. That's so important for women because that's what builds your bone. It's what gives your brain the ability to calm itself and fight back against the stress value. Testosterone cortisol runs queen.
That is really, really interesting. And, you know, it's. It. I love what you said about, like, you know, mentally, you were pouring all your energy into the work. And really, I mean, that's where your confidence lived, to be honest. Right.
That was where I lived.
Central, 100%.
I couldn't look in the closet. I could look in the dark spots. I knew they were there and I knew they were piling up, but I just couldn't. I just didn't have the ability to deal with them.
Yeah, well. And I think that's all these people listening right now, I'm sure can relate. I mean, because it could be work, it could be being a parent, it could be being even just like an over caretaker. It's like anything to displace, you know, energy and focus outside of yourself is also a way of numbing out, especially when things don't feel right. So I just appreciated that. Well, yeah, I would love to hear because as you started talking about like kind of some tips and practical things just to give people hope on how they can kind of overcome some of the detox stuff going on and the hormones, all that.
Well, the first thing to make sure everybody hears real clearly, I was displaced at 17, on my own, 20 bucks on the street. Put myself through medical school, crashed in the er, had to face myself for the first time. Yeah, everybody hears this, you're not alone. And there's. And it gets better. And part of that is you can't do it alone.
Oh, thank you.
You need to reach out. And I wasn't, I was like holding everybody back because if they got behind the curtain, oh, all you know, I had all this fear if they got behind. And there's a lot of things that happened in that short period of time. Getting into aa, getting sober. It is true if you have problems with addictions, you do need to get that done first because nothing else works if you're in your addiction, I mean, it's just thousands. But when you get in your addiction, you start learning these rules. And then I got into martial arts and my trainer gave me the same rules. And then I got into emotional health with my life coach and they gave me the same rules. I like, wait a minute. These rules are all the same. Be honest, have integrity, don't take it personally. I mean, we can go down the list. But I didn't know these rules and I think that's where I talk to a lot of people is you can change, it can be better, you can make it better. But you got to reach out and look for someone to show you because trust me, everybody's been down this road before and there are people out there. You just have to find the person who you hear the inclination. I can do. The trainer I went to walked up there and met good looking Italian guy, one martial arts and he goes, I can get your weight down. It's going to cost you $4,000 for the year. I'm not going to pay you for it. I walked out of his office, but the way he said it, I knew he wasn't. I mean, I got a climp that looked. I knew he was serious. And I walked, turned around, I got down the street and this voice said, don't do this. Go back. And I turned around, went back. See, you can turn around. You can undo a decision and listen to those voices sometimes, if it's right. And I went back up and said, okay, here you go. And he ended up being very important to my life, but also very important to my health because he taught me things as a doctor I didn't even know.
Yeah, yeah. You can't coach yourself. Absolutely. And you need.
And doctors don't know everything.
Especially traditional doctors. Now in the field, I am with the NAP or path, and the integrative doctors. That's where I've lived for almost 35 years now. I was. I was one of the original guys way back in the 1990s who started up a group of doctors who ended up going from 50 to 36,000, talking about personalized medicine, talking about hormones, talking about the microbiome, talking about stem cells, all these things that. We called it regenerative medicine. Now it's called longevity, or there's certain things to it. But that's been going on for a very, very long time. And I was very successful on my career. I launched a couple fellowships to teach other doctors. I helped a lot of people through the. Through the software and through all the clinics I had. And then I retired in August of 2022 and thought, you know, that was a great career, and I was happy to be. Now, let's see what's next in the universe. And people ask me, what are you going to do? And I said, I don't know. I'm waiting for the universe to tell me. And again, there's that awakening that you have that it kind of is there. I mean, not kind of, it is there. And if you just let it wait, if you listen.
And it will tell you. And then three weeks later, I read an article about how a group of Stanford PhDs had taken six adults and they've done what's called plasma change now. Plasma change. A lot of your listeners probably never heard about it. It's been around for 50 years. We use it on 167 different diseases. It's well known. It's. Well. But it's not the first or second line therapy of anything. So probably the most Recent thing that we know about is with long Covid, it's been used in long Covid because what is plasma change? Well, it's basically an oil change is what it is. We put machine, the blood comes out, goes in the machine, separates to your cells and your plasma liquid part. And in plasma donation, it's the same thing. So if you're doing plasma donation, it's the same process, except in plasma exchange, we throw the plasma away and we give you back human albumin instead. And we do quite a bit of your plasma. So we take out 70% every time that we do this and give you back albumin. But within a day, you're making fresh, new, non toxic, non chemical, non inflamed, non non oxidized baby fresh plasma.
Wow.
And wait four weeks. So everything kind of equilibrium about you. Do it again. Now you're from 70 up to 91. You wait for more weeks by everything equilibrium. Do it again. Now you're up to 96, then 99, and then at the fifth one on most people, you've done almost what we consider 100% exchange. But you're changing it with the stuff that you make. So if your readers or your listeners are looking on the Internet with plasma exchange, make sure you're not looking at plasma exchange with plasma. Other people plasma? No, no, no, no, no. Plasma exchanged with albumin, which is a human protein. Totally different. Now I'm an er, the trauma doc. I used to put plasma up all the time on our traumas, right? All the time. And I would sit there as I'm putting up the 10th bag of plasma on the trauma victim, wondering is the trauma going to kill him or is that tenth bag of plasma? Because there are a lot of side effects, including death when you give people other people's plasma. But that's not the case with albumin. So I want to make that sure that your listeners are hear that really clear. Now when I saw that study and their conclusion was that they reversed all the biomarkers of aging. Inflammation went down, oxidation went down. What's the difference between inflammation and oxidation? Inflammation is the heat that your body uses to bring in all the cells. And it may make it by itself, or you have chemicals in you that can interact that make it too. And oxidation is the fire. It's what burns things. So if you give yourself an agent like a toxin and it's an oxidizer, it literally goes up the cells, DNA, proteins, and burns them like piece of paper, destroys them. Inflammation just causes things to get hot, which in some cases is good, but when it turns into chronic inflammation, it doesn't go away. That's not good because then you have this heat infecting everything throughout the body. It's kind of like your car's overheating and you're not getting, now the gears are going to start getting be a problem. So that's what plasma changes. But then what I did, which was because of my experience in 30 years of the integrated fields, let's do lifestyle around that, let's do nutrition, let's do a set of supplements that give you back anti inflammatory antioxidants, detoxification, energizer, let's put in some medication, let's put in some peptides, let's put in some low dose chelator and let's see what happens then. And so I came out of retirement, got my friends together, put this protocol together, got the machine, had some people, got them signed up, did 200 lab markers on the front side, including over 100 toxins. Because the paper that was written said they reversed the biomarkers of aging. I knew what they did is they removed the toxins. I was so sure of it, I knew I could do that even better. Because in all the years of 30 years, we have chelators to take out a couple heavy metals, we have charcoal to absorb some of the pesticides, herbicides, we have binders to take out some of those mold toxicities people have. You can put yourself in a sauna. But the fact is there are so many toxins out there nowadays. Over 140,000 toxins. And they're all in you to a certain degree. It's not about one toxin, it's about all of them working together against you. And if you can't go out and get all of them out nowadays, as I told you, it's kind of like a forest fire. The toxins caused the forest to catch on fire. Going in and taking out a couple trees doesn't do anything for the forest fire. You got to take them all out. But once you take them all out, then you can go in and do replanting and whatever you need to do to get it to grow back. That's been the biggest bane of traditional medicine. And mind you, that's what we call chronic inflammation, the biggest bane in medicine because it makes everything bad.
And we haven't been able to do anything about it because we've known for 20 years it's the toxins. My group of doctors, I've been measuring people's toxins for 20 years. Twenty years ago, I didn't see it very often. Ten years ago it started showing up. Boy, 2017, we got a lot of information with the Flint lead crisis and people came in and wanted to do it. By that time I was like getting a little concerned because it's up to about 6 to 8% of the toxins with good tests were turning positive. And then before I retired, I stopped doing toxin tests because I can't get them out. I can't get all of them out. And if I can't get all of them out, I'm really not doing you any good. I have so many people who've been mold toxic or lead toxic or mercury toxic, you pick. And they, they come in to get that one out and then they're done. They're like, but I'm not any better. That's why. Because it's not getting that one out. You gotta get them all out.
So, so interesting.
That's where the whole fund came in. Because we put these people through the program with five different exchanges. They took supplements, they took peptides. We did all these things. And not only did people, we were astounded because we thought we'd get 20, 30% of the taxes out. Out. No, we're like 80, 90, 99% of the taxes out. And here's the amazing thing that takes about five months to do the process and start re watching them. They're after at six weeks, they're even lower at six months, they're even lower at a year, they're even lower at 18 months. They're almost gone on everybody.
Wow.
Keep doing it. And people like, how often you have to do this. We don't think ever have to do it again. If you adopt your lifestyles, if you make certain things. And that's what we're going to talk about with your listeners. Like what can I do at home? What can I do today? Because there are basic things that everybody needs to do. I bet you can name a couple of them.
Yes, well, definitely dress well. No, I'm just kidding.
Talk about dresses.
My listeners know this. Or if you're new listening, maybe you don't. But no, there's research on this as well. And I, I'm sure you've seen some of the studies as well. Is that it actually changes the chemistry of the brain when you wear different things. It's called enclosed cognition. Right. Like we have different things and we perform differently when we dress. Well.
Also about clothes, dry cleaning and detergents, they stay on the clothes and then they're in You. So one of the things you want to do when we talk about air, food, water, shelter in the. In the shelter part is don't use detergent. There's ozone makers that you can wash your clothes in oxygenated water and it neutralizes. Don't ever use a dry cleaner again, because those are terrible things for you. Don't wear plastic or things that are made from plastic, to a degree, denim, because that gets into you with the forever chemicals. There's a whole big area out there, and women are the ones that are at the greatest risk because also all the makeup they use and all the different cleaners they use and the fabrics that they use, we have. Of all these people that we tested in 2024, which is hundreds and hundreds, I think we're over 500 patients. And these are healthy people. Okay? They're not sick people. 50% women, 50% men. On average, they had 12 toxins, of which five of them were in the 95% critical range. Then the average person had, on average, five. And they were like lead glyphosate, the things you don't want to do. Microplastics. And then there's this group of women, was about 10% of the women population, so about 5% of the total population that were in the 35 and above. Nobody in between, just women out here. But they tended to be women who are 50 to 60 years old. They were relatively thin, and they were what I would call beautiful. By that I mean they like their makeup, they like their clothing, they like. And they were the most toxic of the group because of makeup, because of the clothes. You can do things. Get rid of these fabric softener, get a dryer bowl, get rid of the detergent, get an ozone maker. Plus, it's better for the environment because you're not putting all those chemicals and soaps into the. There's so many things. And we have this for you, Kimmy, for all your listeners at our website on mdlifespan.com Kimmy K. I m my. And they can get this. Everything I'm saying here gimme says. And because we can talk about air, I mean, the air we breathe, here's a startling fact. Where do you get exposed to most of your toxins, do you think? Where do you get them from?
I just feel like at work.
Yeah, but it's not. 90% of them are all in your home.
Oh, really? No.
That's shocking. Home is a dangerous spot. You have all the fabric softeners, you have all the fabrics, you have the carpets, you have the clothing, you have the. All these different things. And then you have this. We close the box and we lock it up, and then we heat it up. So we bake you inside all these chemicals.
It makes sense. Yeah.
Open your windows. Get a HEPA filter. These are all in the hand. I mean, it's a dramatic change. If we can just make your shelter safe with air filtration empties. Get rid of the chemicals. Believe it or not, those things that make it easier to clean are killing you. And let's go back to the baking powder, the toothpaste, the bleach, the vinegar, my house. Absolutely. I lost my mom, my grandma, my sister to Alzheimer's, and all the guys died from cancer before the age of 65. So here's the other thing I need to tell people is toxins will take you out where you're genetically the weakest. And all you have to do is look at your family and find out where that is. And you're like, I have heart disease, and toxins are going to take you out there. The interesting and probably the scariest thing of all is we've known that the major cause of chronic inflammation are the toxins, and we've done little to stop them from getting into our environment. And it's gone up and up and up to the point where now every week in the newspaper, you see microplastics, you see forever chemicals. I mean, I remember hearing about PFAS back 30, 40 years ago, and then everything went quiet. Now they're like, oh, my God, we have so many PFAs. And, you know, don't eat the fish. Well, it's not that anymore. It's everywhere.
These. This is also helpful. And, you know, maybe as we wrap up, I'm listening to all this, and I'm sure there's people listening, too, that. I mean, this is enlightening. You know, things that maybe you never even thought of. But also, I hope that there's, like, an installation of hope as well. With all this, there are things that you can do. What would you tell everybody? Like, because it's also overwhelming. I'm not gonna lie. Like, there's all these. I'm like, well, now I gotta get an ozone thing. And now I gotta do this.
And now I'm gonna tell you three things.
Number one, download the. Download the brochure. Read it over. There's simple, inexpensive solutions on how to take care of the air, food, water, and shelter. That's the first thing everybody needs to do. And it's simple. And you don't have to do it all at once. Take your time. But there's water filters as low as $200 all the way up to $25,000. And we, we've gotten this information from Consumer Reports plus our own data. So it's good suggestion. We've, that's why these numbers keep going down afterwards. And everybody should be doing that now.
Number two and wait, what is the link for that? And I'll put it in the show notes.
Oh, it's mdlifespan.com Kimmy K I M.
Y okay, great, great. That'd be me.
The other thing is you don't know what you don't know. Go get your toxins tested now. You can go to our website and you can purchase a toxin kit and we'll send it to your home. And when the results come back, I'll get on the phone with you or one of my providers will get on the phone with you for 15, 20 minutes and we'll go over what those mean to you. Because if you don't know what you got, you don't know. And I don't know if you're one of those women that are in the high toxic range or if you're in the other range, I'd be guessing you're probably in the high toxic range and you don't know.
I know.
What's the first, what's the first symptom of toxicity? Well, in some people, they may have fatigue, muscle aches and problem with the libido and the hormones because it disrupts everything. But usually the first presenting symptom of the toxins is cancer, Alzheimer's or heart attack.
Yeah, yeah.
And number three, and I think this is very important to state the person that's at the most risk from the toxins. The unborn child, the unborn children, the fetus, because they're developing. We've known this for a long time and now we know all the toxins are in the placenta and we know that their meconium is filled with microplastics. Moms, before you get pregnant, do some check, get your house clean, do what I told you. Get your levels down. Check your levels, check your levels again. Because the vast majority of the people that we see, we just follow the simple avoidance as we say, and clean up their house. Their levels come down, the body can get rid of them. That's the good news. But you got to be aware of them and you have to know what your levels are.
Oh my gosh. Thank you so much. I think the final Words that I'd love to hear from you is to kind of close how we opened. And that is just how all of this can impact us emotionally, mentally, and give us energy to go out there and date and flirt and all of those things, because it's just so important, and I don't think it's talked about enough. What kind of advice would you give to people who are also living in a little bit of fear? Like, they know, they maybe want to do something or need to do something. They don't have the energy or the means. Just like maybe a mental kind of advice that people can do to get out of that dark place.
Well, I was in a very dark place. There was 14 months there that had a hard time doing anything. And there would be days I just sat on the edge of my bed and cried. So I've been in a dark space before. And the answer to that question is, what can they do? Very simply, you need to look up and you need to pick up. You gotta find. You have to find somebody, whether you're calling Suicide Hotline, whether you're calling AA.org, which is what I did. And this. This person jumped on and said, great, come on, I'll meet you. You're two blocks away. I'm going to meet you. I'm going to take you to a meeting. And I was scared. And he was like, it's okay. If you have another caring soul with you, you can get through that. And if you think all this in front of you is so overwhelming, it's only one day at a time. It all changes not in a moment, but in a lot of moments you string together. So fear is good because it keeps us out of trouble. Fear is bad because it keeps us from moving. So if you're using fear to, hey, this is good, I need to do this. You're sitting in fear and not moving because I'm afraid. You need to pick up. Like I said, don't give up. Pick up.
I love that. And that advice rings true in so many different ways in your love life, dating life, relationships, all of that. Because no one changes in the state of comfort. We only change in a state of discomfort. And lean into it and use this as a motivation to change. So, my gosh, Dr. Savage, thank you so much for coming on. This was enlightening and amazing.
I'd love to come back sometime and talk a little bit more about the specific protocols of the plasma exchange that we've been developing. Because once you get the force out, put the fire out, it Repairs and you can actually facilitate that. And what we've been doing with cognitive decline, what we've been doing with early cancer markers, what we've been doing with the HIV patients with low CD4 counts, all of this is very early on, but it's amazing that we were right. If we get all the toxins out, we could turn the inflammation off. We could do that. There's a way to fix all these things. And that I think is going to be the message for everybody is it's just. Hold on.
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you so much.
You're welcome.
So thanks for joining me today. This has been the charisma quotient as always. I'm your host, Kimmy Seltzer. And remember, you can build confidence, make connections and find love from the outside in. And if you want to know more, make sure you go to my site, Kimmysaltzer.com and if your health is affecting your love life, then hop on a private call with me. We can talk about ways to get you out of this funk. And I actually have a unique opportunity. I haven't announced it yet because if you can believe it, I don't have a lot of spots left, but a few more women who would like to take it to the next level and experience a to change in this part of your life. I have something for you. So coming up in February, I am doing a small intimate private retreat. I have not done this before. It's brand new. It's called Inner Spark and Soul Retreat and it focuses on nurturing your body, your mind and your soul. Because we all know if you look and feel your best, that's when you attract what you want. And through curated activities that I'm going to be doing with you, this transformative experience is gonna be combining rejuvenating wellness practices, exploration of femininity, energy and self care strategies both inside and out. And I am almost full as I said, but I do have a few spots left. So if you're interested, here's the thing, just go to ask Kimmy.com and let me know you're interested. Or just click again that link that you see in the show notes to book a private call with me and we can see if it's a fit. It would be a great way to get your mental and physical well being in check for the new year. A new year, a new you. And remember, working on you is working on your dating life. That's all for now.
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